Thread 513344409

Demilitarization and Neutrality. (Never to EU and NATO).
Collective Zionist West seems unable to understand what that means. They keep talking about guarantees and NATO boots on Ukraine.
As you understand, there can't be any Peace with such deluded psychopaths.
The War isn't going to stop again, the War actually is about to ramp up.

Oh yeah? Then i have only one demand - continue the meatgrinder until there's no puccians below 40 year of age

So Russia doesn't want territory then?

>>513344477
Then you can move to Russia and be a plumber there.

Of course its going to ramp up.
The West cannot afford to lose this war and USA cannot abandon Ukraine. Trump's hysteria is just a show for public.

>>513344477
You can afford to say this because the last hohol is still alive. When your life on the front line is at stake, you will have only one demand to don't be killed. You will beg for Ukraine to be red than you to be dead.

>>513344487
>So Russia doesn't want territory then?

Donbass has primarily ethnic Russian. This is why Putin wants that place to get recognized as Russian by Ukraine.

The land and the minerals are not important. The people are.

>>513344661
Russia is the player that can't lose the war, they are fighting in a country on their border not far from their border, this was is existential for them. For America it is very far away, an ocean and a continent away it is not important to us.

>>513344487
The only way to stop Russia from gaining new territory is to stop the war as soon as possible. Which is why globohomo sent Trump, to play the Good Cop, to apease Russians and maybe try to make "a deal" with them before Russia takes too much. The West already failed to win against Russia, all they can do now is limit losses.

>>513344849
For USA this war is no less existential.
For USA this war is about financial supremacy. The Dollar as reserve currency is being challenged, and it's being challenged openly by major world's players.
If USA fails in Ukraine, the world will only speed up dedolarization because it would prove that USA cannot force the world into using dollars anymore.

>>513344837
They should move to russia

>>513344837
>>513344876
What's the answer to my question though? Was OP wrong or not?

>>513345019
What the fuck are you talking about? The only thing this has proved is that China and Russia are too corrupt and incompetent to replace the dollar, as bad as it is. Don't you think they would have moved to trade more in Yuan or Rubles by now?

>>513345593
>They should move to russia


They left and took their land with them.

You see ethnic Russians aren't Native Americans to kick them from their own lands and subvert them.

You messed with the wrong people and they gonna rape the shit out of you.

>>513345895
>What's the answer to my question though? Was OP wrong or not?

They have already taken 85% of Donbass and they gonna take the rest of it with the good or the bad.
But the issue here is the Recognition.
Ukrainian constitution says that Ukrainians have to take Donbass back while Russian constitution describes these lands as Russians.

>>513344661
Whether west can afford it or not its gonna be a loss, there is no realistic way for Ukraine to destroy the russian army

>>513346023
But OP said they don't want territory. Was that false?

>>513346282
>But OP said they don't want territory. Was that false?

I wrote what is important not what they want.
Russia did not went there for the resources, they went to help the ethnic Russians.

From what I know, USA will get the resources. This is the deal between USA and Russia.

>>513346554
>what is important not what they want
Agreed.

>>513345895
Your question indicates you want to redirect topic into something that has secondary meaning.

>>513346768
What's the answer to the question? And why is the answer secondary?

>>513344409 (OP)
Ukraine had almost no military to speak of and didn't want to join NATO in 2014 and Putin still niggered out and took Crimea

>>513345942
Price of gold and with it incoming inflation, soon to become unbearable. Much worse than it was not many months ago.
The fact that everyone else is worse off is completely irrelevant. The dollar is on its way to die and if the West wants to keep its financial hegemony, they NEED to win this war in Ukraine, then they need to move to next goals, Iran and China.

Also, forget about
>muh what will replace the dollar
argument. It is irrelevant. Because in reallity, nothing will. There won't be any more reserve currencies.

>>513346806
It's deflecting, typical nafo tactic. This isn't about territories and never was.

>>513344837
>This is why Putin wants that place to get recognized

So there is more than just 2 demands, right?

>>513344409 (OP)
You quite dont understand what Putin is.

He doesnt want any deals, he doesnt want any goodies.

Putin sows schizophrenia and undermines all the foundations of modern society that he can reach.

And Putin's goal is not to eat well, sleep well and fuck juicy, but absolute power in a world of absolute schizos, which he quite methodically breeds.
Schizos with completely disabled critical thinking and self-interest, a schizophrenic swarm, where Putin-mother will rule undividedly.

He doesn't need a deal, he doesn't need the goodies of this world. He's a black little nasty creature, ruining everyone's life regardless of their mood.

However, I think Trump has already realized what he got himself into and that Putin does not have human values.
Putin's mocking phrase in Alaska about the failed elections by the republics due to mail voting in 2021, which Trump spoke about in an interview. He seemed to be mocking the fact that he interfered in the elections right in the face of Trump, who lost the elections.

Trump is pretty understandable in terms of human values. He loves himself, self-admiration, beautiful women and other narcissistic things.

Putin is in another dimension. He is a leaky head schiz, whose goal is simply to smear feces all around.
An elementary test - give Putin any human value and he will smear it with shit and crap.

Here Melania turned to Putin with a request to return the stolen children. Putin will of course return the children, but before that he will cut off their fingers, for example, or perform a lobotomy, or infect them with AIDS.

>>513344409 (OP)
Trump surrounded to Putin in Alaska he's just capitulated. Russia won against USA and whole NATO. Time to recognize new world leader and number one superpower. cope and seethe mutts

>>513344409 (OP)
>Demilitarization and Neutrality. (Never to EU and NATO).
this is why i oppose russia/multiculturalism and globalism in general. why should White nations take orders from globalist countries like RU? if someone wants to make a trade deal, then trade. if someone wants to own a gun, then own a gun. why should some multiculturalist get to dictate your life to you

>>513347001
>This isn't about territories and never was.
So why is that what Putin demanding then? What about the biolabs n'stuff?

>>513346884
>Ukraine had almost no military to speak of and didn't want to join NATO in 2014

Ukraine had one of the largest armies in Europe.
It became even larger after Maidan.

USA under Trump (2017) flooded Ukraine with weapons.

Trump is not kind or dumb, its a vulture.

>>513344409 (OP)
Zionist West has also demands to Moscow, regime change and collapse of Russia, why can't Russia accept that? They are being irrational.

You are right about the war, no deal, no agreement, nothing was reached, just photo OP for optics. If Putin does sign deal with the Devil he should be assassinated, but I doubt that he will fell for it again after the Western Elites lied so many times before, why would they be telling the truth this time?

>>513344409 (OP)
>(((Zionist West)))

meanwhile

>>513347007
>So there is more than just 2 demands, right?

Its not a demand. Its about legality.
Constitutional Laws have to be rewritten. Donbass is Russian in the Russian constitution, in the Ukrainian constitution Donbass has to be taken back.
War is politics by other means.

>>513344477
Checked full house digits.

>>513344409 (OP)
>Never to EU
wtf I love Putler now

>>513347352
Yes Zionist West, that is arming and financing Israel since they created it, vs Putin doing one photo Op for optics over 20 years ago when he visited Israel.

>>513347352
putin also signs over all infrastructure to jewish billionaires. fun fact, who made all the money after putin invaded crimea? the jewish billionaire Arkady rotenberg. Kerch Bridge? yep, rotenberg's.

>>513347083
Trump keeps getting weaker and weaker, he's cucking out to Russia because he's hoping Putin can save his political fortunes in the same way he saved his businesses economically. Lesson here is Trump is a very cheap whore to purchase. Keep talking about Epstein

>>513347184
You think correctly but you are one stupid dumbfuck. Russia is the one fighting for freedom, our side is fighting for slavery.
At least recognise that our side, your so called "white" countries, is satanic. Then your way of thinking will be correct and your fight against oppression justified.

>>513347199
> So why is that what Putin demanding then? What about the biolabs n'stuff?
Putin is clinical schizophrenic.

If you give him some territories - he'll genocide all people living there, he'll shittize all land.
He doesnt want any human values, he is not quite human at all

>>513347083
do ziggers really? lmao

>>513344409 (OP)
>Demilitarization and Neutrality. (Never to EU and NATO)
But without that support Russia will simply invade again later for more land. So that's a worthless option. This war doesn't end without the guarantee of full nuclear exchange if Russia invades again.

>>513347076
>You quite dont understand what Putin is.
>He doesnt want any deals, he doesnt want any goodies.


Your hatred towards Putin caused by the Western sanctions.
You are one of these young kids who want to live the Western way of life, but this isn't going to happen, or at least not until sanctions lifted.

As a Greek, I can honestly tell you, fuck the west and the western way of life.

>>513347493
russia fights for globalism and multiculturalism. russias whole ideology is about breaking down national states and turning them into a multicultural federation, and then dictating how people can live there. i think gun ownership and trade is good, so naturally i oppose russia.

>>513347466
Putin expelled Russian Jewish Billionaires from Russian government, and most of them don't even live in Russia anymore but had immigrated to Israel and the West. They looted the country during Yeltsin (US puppet) years
Fun fact: Crimea wasn't invaded, they had referendum to return back to Russia

>>513344487
>>513344477
>>513344409 (OP)
Why did Putin go to a hotel in Alaska, when zelensky, starmer,scron, Merkel, Italy, and like 5 un guys are all going to the white house the next fucking day

>>513347600
>Russia is the EU

lol

>>513347496
You should leave bro. Just get out however you can.

>>513344409 (OP)
Also the demand of the land taken staying with Russia, you know, the only thing Zelenskyy is really against?

>>513344802
Bro if Russia gets aggressive to real countries you will literally get nuked. You will get your cities completely destroyed by nuclear missiles. you have threatened this so long that you lost sight of the behavior of men of action

We won't threaten you with it for decades. We will simply annihilate you if you step

You are so poor. Take a picture for us where you are now.

>>513347607
well thats just a complete lie which is why i never trust anyone who supports putin. because you just write a lie and expect people to believe it. of course putin never expelled any jewish billaionres, he is funded by them. i thought it was hilarious when putin supporters were a year ago ranting about kerch bridge and how it must be protected - and then just forget that bridge was the project of the jewish billaionre arkady rotenberg. nevermind the fact that putin even had his daughter marry a jewish billionaire (into the shemalovs). Plus putinists only claim to oppose jewish ideology on 4chan, because for example on twitter, putinists call anyone against russia tihngs like "neo nazi" "anti semitic" "fascist" and so on. its obvious you are just trying to adopt the customs of wherever you are posting and hoping people don't think about it. i think this is why you often see russian accounts run by indians.

>>513347496
Sure he will, % of children killed in Ukraine war is 0.3% and most of that came from Ukrainian army side vs almost half of all deaths in Israeli Genocide in Gaza are bellow age 18, yea totally, that's why we see all of this uprisings and revolts in lands that Russia liberated, oh wait..

>>513347522
> But without that support Russia will simply invade again later for more land. So that's a worthless option. This war doesn't end without the guarantee of full nuclear exchange if Russia invades again.

Putin is not about the land. Its like dark sect, which wants to shittize all over the world.
Its not about business, not about money, not about land. Its dark-schizo-shittize cult

There is a simple test - give him any small and understandable human value and in a moment the value will be smeared in shit

>>513347644
russia is much worse than eu, as russia is centralised multicultural federation and eu federalists have almost zero influence at the moment.

>>513347364
Then why russia is not giving away territories that historically didn't belong to it in previous century? Why this "legality" works only when russia wants something?

>>513347443
>signs a "defense" pact with Iran
>cucks out over Israel

>>513347737
well when you ethnically cleanse the population and replace them with immigrants (e.g., mass migration of indians and afghanis into mariupol) obviously they will not fight back. btw 1 White child is worth more than 1 million brown lives.

>>513347611
This is funny. He's just happy if he's front of a camera and people are paying attention to him. A simple creature

>>513344409 (OP)
You forgot the third demand
>pretend we're not coming back for more in a few years

>>513347561
> Your hatred towards Putin caused by the Western sanctions.
> You are one of these young kids who want to live the Western way of life, but this isn't going to happen, or at least not until sanctions lifted.

> As a Greek, I can honestly tell you, fuck the west and the western way of life.

it's not about western or eastern way of life.
Putin is not this dimension absolutely.

If you gave him east way of life - he'll shittize its too.
He doesnt apply human values at all, he shittize all around him.

>>513347760
You gotta be kidding me. Russia isn't even multicultural, they didn't flooded their government, media, entertainment and major cities with every ethnic group that they conquered in past (not imported like the EU brought millions of Niggers in France) but gave them their own autonomous regions where they live, like China did with Tibetans and Uygurs

>>513347762
>Then why russia is not giving away territories that historically didn't belong to it in previous century? Why this "legality" works only when russia wants something?

Nobody gives land without War.

And the Jewish Soviets betrayed Russia by giving away the Eastern Europe.

They only left Kaliningrad to Russia, so they can cause turbulence in Europe and hatred among Germany and Russia (pic rel my Prophecy)

>>513347819
Well yeah. He'll just pretend more ethnic Russians are being oppressed and say the importance of protecting them invalidates whatever peace treaty they agreed too. Most of these post-soviet countries know Russia far better than dumb US boomers. They've seen all this shit before

>>513347881

Putin is an Angel in front of these jewish and english scums who rule the Collective Zionist West.

>>513347797
Mariupol isn't Brussels or Amsterdam or London lol are you even dumb Polak or that American neocon with VPN proxy?

>>513347884
russia is the most multicultural "country" (its a federation so not even a nation-state nevermind ethno-state) in the northern hemisphere. the explicit goal of putin is to break up national identities and use targeted mass immigration to weaken them, then sign over infrastructure deals to jews. this is what he did in crimea
>invade the country
>dissolve all local institutions
>bring in indians and central asian muslims
>sign over all the business deals to jewish billionaires
rinse and repeat. this is why a lot of Slavs that live in RU defected to ukraine and continue to do so. i can't blame them. if putin isn't stopped moscow is going to look like calcutta.

>>513347944
your immediate deflection and attempt to bury the issue tells me all i need to about your real beliefs. you obviously are a multiculturalist yourself, and suipport ethnically cleansing White families for mass immigration from third world countries. no sane WN would ever support mass immigration from e.g., india.

>>513344409 (OP)
May be a stupid question but,

Why doesnt Russia just seek to join NATO?

>>513347939
>forgets Holohoax denial is illegal in Russia

ZOGGED

>>513344661
>and USA cannot abandon Ukraine
Sure we can, watch us

>>513348048
because otherwise they would not be able to invade countries as they are doing now. russia only invades non-NATO members as they know they would lose a war to NATO. if they joined NATO they'd have to reform their country which they wont do and they'd be forced to stop land grabbing which they wont do.

>>513347963
Yea that one slut represents the whole country. Niggers don't even make 0.1% of Russia, while they are literally America's majority of athletes and musicians, what a joke.

There are more Nigs in individual capitals of western Europe then the entire Russian federation (that only has other ethnic groups because they literally conquered their territories in the past) Had Russia not expended eastward they would basically be Belarus, the purest country in Europe, but that's not the point, they chose to be world power instead during Tsarist era, Putin didn't added anything new that wasn't inherited before him, actually he did, he added more Slavic lands and Russian population from Zelensky's Hoholstan

>>513347812
Only a nutcase would chose dc over alaska

I don't know if any side right.
But people have been fighting for the black Ukrainian dirt forever.
Ukraine fed the entire Soviet Union. Multiple growing seasons.

>>513347735
>>513347076
Good to see some sensible posters in a sea of shills and useful idiots.

>>513348110
Only NATO has right to invade and bomb countries, yet we remember that very well you Kike shill

>>513348048
>Why doesnt Russia just seek to join NATO?

Putin asked to join NATO 25 years ago but the British rejected this idea:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/19/putin-russia-ukraine-nato-george-robertson/

>>513347760
You're blinded by hate and propaganda. You have only yourself to blame for your future.

There is no peace possible with deluded psychopathic russians.

>>513347888
>Nobody gives land without War.

If a war is required then it's not some legit procedure. And what is the difference then in a war to occupy some land rightfully vs not rightfully?

>>513348048
Putin wanted to join NATO and EU but the Zionist West needed ''new enemy'' once they finished off with Israel's enemies and ''war on terror'' so they said no. Thank God for that ironically or else Neocons would be having military inside Russia itself and on China's borders and Putin would had been just another neoliberal puppet.

>>513348116
you support niggers so again, why are you even trying right now to say otherwise? russia has more blacks than every single other east and central european country combined. and russia is the only country actively trying to ship in niggers, while supporting black marxist nationalist movements in africa (for example, putin helps arm and train the EFF which carries out assassinations on White families in South Africa). and thats not even talking about the fact Putin invaded Ukraine with the explicit goal to exterminate Whites and White nationalists and replace them with migrants. and that's also not even touching the fact every time Putin takes territory, he signs over the infrastructure to jewish billionaires in exclusive contracts. i can understand why so many Slavic Russians defected and joined Ukraine. what other choice do they have
>>513348138
stop LARPing that you oppose jews when you already admitted you support jews. you even support putin's jewish land grab in crimea, where jews were empowered and enriched and Whites were driven off the land thanks to putins invasion.
>>513348195
>y-you're a nazi
just come out and say it next time.

>>513348083
>>forgets Holohoax denial is illegal in Russia

It is in Greece and Europe as well.
My Political party Golden Dawn went to jail because of that, so yeah, Fuck the West Fuck the British fuck the americans but most importantly, FUCK THE KIKES AND THE FREEMASONS!

>>513348110
poles are so blinded by their jewish tier hatred that they start losing self-awareness

>>513348138
How many square kilometers did NATO occupy?

>>513348225
>If a war is required then it's not some legit procedure

Really? Why Turkey is still in NATO if they invaded Cyprus?
Go troll somewhere else fucking kike

>>513348256
100% youre a putin migrant living in estonia trying to undermine Estonia (a White nation). that's why you're ignoring the fact putin invaded Ukraine and signs exclusive contract deals to jews, but you blame Poland for doing nothing and winning. that's how I know all putin shills are:
>jewish
>immigrants
>blacks
>indians
every single time without 1 single exception. i am always proven right by this point. well i have to go back to work now

>>513348003
>no sane WN would ever support mass immigration from e.g., india.
Interesting, there's a flood of shitskins from hindu places in all of Europe lately, including Eastern Europe. Is Russia to blame for this too?
You truly are one stupid dumbass.

>>513348248
Your country's culture is centered around Niggers, your movies, your music, your sports, the whole civil rights movement, and you exported Niggermania to rest of the world so now English national team and French national team look like America. Russia has less than 0.1% of Nigs
You are delusional lol
Defecting to Ukraine? Ukraine is hunting people on the street to throw them to fight war for Neocons while their country is collapsing, they lost 9 million people since 2022 and 13 million left since 2014

>>513348263
>How many square kilometers did NATO occupy?
788,440

>>513348246
You lie like a russian.

>>513348248
you're a Nazi
here. Enjoy hell.

>>513348405
Lot of them in the russian army too

>>513348263
They stole our province and gave it to Albanian terrorists, so the entire Kosovo

>>513348434
This anon knows how vranyo works.

>>513348434
What part if the lie? Putin ask Clinton this personally

>>513348134
> Good to see some sensible posters in a sea of shills and useful idiots.
Thank you. Think there re so much bots.

This is a favorite tactic of the Russian administration - to spam foreign media with bots imitating "useful idiots".

Another favorite tactic of the Russian administration is spamming with various views - oh, Putin is anti-Zog, oh Putin is a Zog, oh Putin is a traditionalist, oh Putin supports diversity.

But it's not like that. Putin and today's Russia are a schizophrenic destructive sect with anti-human values. It's not about traditions or diversity, it's just anti-human.

>>513348450
>obligatory NAFO reponse
>immediately, with a webm

>>513348339
He is right though, you guys are even more deluded and insane when it comes to Russia than finns and thats a lot anon

>>513348482
learn 2 engrish zigger

have you experienced dedovshchina yet ? how's chad russian cock

>>513348482
Show the application Putin submitted to join NATO. Or just a transcript of that conversation.

>>513348526
You didn't deny it though... :)

>>513344837
>Russian speaker = ethnic Russian

GEE I WONDER WHY THEY VOTED TO BE PART OF UKRAINE IN THE 90S

>>513348254
Fuck off to Russia then and fight for Putin.

>>513348339
poland provoked germany into war by allowing kikes murder german people on stolen german territory
you don't go preaching for white values while being occupied by biggest nigger lover regime on the planet

>>513348571
Head of NATO at that time said that you stupid Tatar. Russia in 1990s and early 2000s was run by American and Russian Jewish billionaires and they were neoliberal shithole, they wanted to join NATO, EU, G8, trade only in dollars and euros and had built entire gas and oil infrastructure to go to Europe

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/04/ex-nato-head-says-putin-wanted-to-join-alliance-early-on-in-his-rule

>>513344409 (OP)
Russia had so many demands in the beginning
what happened:^)

>>513348322
Turkey invaded, not NATO

>>513348697
Turkey is in NATO how do you think US was arming those pro-Israeli terrorists that are not killing Orthodox Christians and Shias in northern Syria but through Turkey?

>>513348733
*that are now killing

>>513348685
Like a typically mentally handicapped russian, you post an article that says nothing like you claimed. Putin wanted freebies and NATO said no. Russia did not want to go through the normal process everyone does to join the NATO. Obviously they would never have passed the process.

Disgusting how you russians lie about literallt everything. Subhumans who deserve oblivion.

>>513344837
> The land and the minerals are not important. The people are.
The people aren't important too. I told you - Putin is anti-human and anti human values

If you check what Putin done with people Donbass - you'll understand what i'm talking about.
He genocide all mens with DNR and LNR mobilisation, he genocide womans and babushkas in refugee detention centers

>>513348655
>Fuck off to Russia then and fight for Putin.

You should fuck off from my country western kike dog! Not a single Greek wants you here or your stooges!

>>513344837
Oh look suddenly its also territory they want. Disproving his initial post completly. How odd.

>>513348525
Actions speak louder than words, as they say.

>>513348849
>The people aren't important too. I told you - Putin is anti-human and anti human values

VPN kike spotted

>>513348829
What normal process? They wanted to join, what the fuck are you even talking about? There is no process, we were absorbed in to NATO without any referendum any voting, it was all decided by Washington and Brussels
Are you that American that switched Poland proxy with Kyrgistan? lol

>>513344409 (OP)
Ukraine just needs to fight on. Fuck Russia and Trump whining for a Nobel Prize.

>>513348882
>Typical low IQ german trash who doesn't know what constitution is.

It is in the Russian constitution and they have to take it.

>>513348992
You are retarded. I wonder who put it in the constitution that forces them to take that land...

>>513348655
Netherlands is literally paying salaries of Hohol government officials.

>>513348525
give me one example of "a human value" is cutting off your dick and calling yourself a woman one of these human values?

>>513344409 (OP)
>GOOOOOOOOOOO RUSSIA!

>>513348905
> VPN kike spotted
I can eat some pork meat laying on my russian passport

>>513348956
>There is no process
Not even russians can be this stupid and ignorant. Why are you not back in russia anyway and are hiding in a NATO country?

>>513344837
>The land and the minerals are not important. The people are.
Look at this faggot and laugh.

>>513349187
What the fuck are you even talking about? Where did I lied? Also this isn't ''NATO country'' only US is NATO, the rest are US vassals, we were bombed by NATO and our country was broken in to pieces and one part was given to Albanian terrorists as gift.

>>513349177
>no- no guys you dont understand putin is a magic schizo who poopoohs "human values"

until you tell me what you consider human values then you can fuck off.

>>513349295
Sodomy is a human value to them

>>513344409 (OP)
They said they don’t care about Ukraine getting EU membership, which is odd. But they probably realize if that ever happens, the EU will implode anyway

>>513349119
> give me one example of "a human value" is cutting off your dick and calling yourself a woman one of these human values?

you trying to turnover what am talking about
but anyway

dumb men without dick calling himself a woman - its life, its about life, its live.
Putin isn't. If you gave him trad people - he'll trannise them. If you gave him trannys - he'll sew dicks them back

Its not about live, he schizophrenize all around him.

>>513347076
MARY!

>>513347001
So OP was a lying sociopath when he said Putin didn't want territory, thank you for confirming that, lying sociopath ;)

>>513349387
>2SLGBTQI+

Damn. What does that shit even mean?

>>513349535
He never said that, there is no part of OP post where he is denying that. Territory is simply secondary to demilitarization, as even if half of Hoholstan is liberated and part of Russia, the other half will still be used by Neocons against Russia in the future. The goal is to end this once and for all and not create Pakistan-India situation where hatred and hostility continues long after the war and chance of new wars emerge. Basically how Soviets ended centuries of German-Polish ethnic and border disputes after ww2

>Zelensky is a faggot, the run child of nazi jew George Soros
>His brother runs Syria atm

>>513349719
>runts everywhere
HONK

>>513347694
No one will start nuclear war over Poland bruh.

Doesn’t matter what society you throw Putin’s Virus into, it’ll twist it into some rotten parody of itself.

Diversity clownworlds:
Start with pluralism and rainbows, end with tribal gang wars. He juiced the faultlines, pumped both extremes, trashed the refs (media, courts, science). Diversity doesn’t stay cool — it mutates into chaos and paranoia. Everyone hates everyone.

Trad societies:
Start with faith, family, order. He hijacks the symbols, makes religion a cult of himself, turns “morality” into a stick for beating, family into a photo-prop. Tradition rots into cosplay totalitarianism. It’s not heritage anymore, it’s necro-rituals around his throne.

Grey masses:
Start with no values, just blank survival mode. Perfect sandbox. He pumps in fake sacred stuff, invents enemies, slaps his mug on the altar. The grey sludge fuses into hive-mind goo. Suddenly the void has “meaning”: the virus itself.

TL;DR:
Diversity chaos circus
Tradition cultic darkness
Mass homogeneity hivemind sludge

Putin’s Virus doesn’t build. It only corrupts, smears, deforms. Give it anything and it comes back dipped in entropy and shitposting energy.

>>513349292
You said there is no process to join NATO. That is a blatant low IQ russian lie. And you don't even know you are in a NATO country. Why are you there and not in russia?

>>513350873
He's right, they voted through parliament, that's it.

>>513351367
Look up the process each NATO candidate has to go through before being approved membership.

>>513351367
To understand how this is actually happening:

Putin - oh, I really want to accomplish the goals of the special operation
Trump - okay, let's make a deal based on the goals of the special operation
Putin - oh, well, the Ukrainians probably won't agree
Trump - okay, let me negotiate so that the Ukrainians agree
Putin - oh, well, Europe probably won't agree
Trump - okay, let me negotiate with Europe so that they agree
Putin - oh, well, this is probably without guarantees, you'll cheat again
Trump - okay, let me give guarantees, I'll give hostages
Putin - oh,..
Trump - Wait, are you even going to negotiate?
Putin - no, I screwed you, azazaaz)))0000 now your supporters think you're shit and the Maga are idiots, azazaaz trolled))000

>>513344409 (OP)
hi Ivan, how is your whore mother? still fucking churkas?

>>513344477
Bold word for someone in SMO distance.

>>513350588
Checked.

>>513345593
Why should they move back to a country they've never lived in?

>>513344409 (OP)
Why hasn't he attacked the 3 NATO nations that directly boarder him again?

As someone who has watched all this shit right from the beginning, right from the coup in CIA coup in 2014 that is, the subsequent little green men annexation of Crimea and the continuous antagonism of Putin in the following years until he finally attacked. The west lost, they had a chance to maybe catch Putin out by catching him in a major defeat or something but they were just too gutless and Putin was too shrewd. The insanity, the pure stupidity and degeneracy of the west shone brightly in their handling of the entire fiasco, right from when that fat Jewish cunt started her work.

russoid prime minister is a jew.
puccia invaded.

>>513344837
they are citizens of Ukraine.
if they want to live in puccia then they can move there.

>>513344409 (OP)
This is all lies. The war is already over. It ended in 24 hours after Trump took office. What's going on now is just a bunch of media exaggeration and gaslighting.

russia is a fake nation without history
ukraine and russia is our clay

>>513355535
If it keeps going like this Trump is going to have to go to a commercial break during his term.

>>513344409 (OP)
>Russia has only two demands.
>Demilitarization and Neutrality.
To conquer Ukraine. That's the only purpose of these two things. A militarized Ukraine which is part of a defense alliance would be obstacle to that goal.

>>513344409 (OP)
If you can tell me what the purpose of the duo meeting was for the republicans administration, when obvious no progress was possible…

>>513347561
>fuck the west and the western way of life.
You're right greekbro let's live in caves and on farm while China rolls over with modern factories and drones
Fucking retard
Prosperity comes natural with proper industrialization, particularly for a well-populated and rich country like Russia, Putin had all the cards but instead he spent 25 years pissing against the wind and stacking the pockets of his friends, and this embarrassing "operation" is the result
Saying "West bad" is nothing but a failed state cope

Nobody wants peace right now except the Americans, and the Americans are irrelevant. This is all just theatre. The violence will continue without interruption.

>>513344409 (OP)
>demilitarization of Ukraine
Russia would just return next year to conquer the country, even if they promise not to. The word of a Russian is meaningless, because they are not an honorable people.

>>513344630
Would be a big job, bringing the concept of indoor plumbing to millions of lonely widowed ziggerinas.

>>513357461
>Dzien dobry Ms Malenkova, I'm here to pipe you, I mean pipe you, I mean lay some pipe, I mean pipe you, I mean

>>513344409 (OP)
You are also going to Ukraine along with Bulgarians and Romanians also Macedonians and Albanians.later CZ and Baltic states.
GAE cannot lose this war.
https://dl.depot.4d2.org/YRLPDx5MKSQX.mp4

>>513344661
You are also going to Ukraine , bro.
But with the second wave of NATO. Along with Poland , UK , CZ and France.

>>513344876
GAE and a going total war and will make Moscow.
But it needs some years to prepare.

>>513357423
>tf
>tp
Remember when Hitlor promised not to invade Poland and Czechoslovakia? lmao

>>513347076
You are not a real Russian, you are VPN CIA glowie

>>513360463
> You are not a real Russian, you are VPN CIA glowie
You need proofs?

>>513344409 (OP)
>Russia only has two(3) demands
Very jewish

>>513360687
Every russian who doesnt support Putin is a foreign agent using a VPN.
There is a reason Putin gets 99% votes in elections. All Russians love him

>>513344409 (OP)
> Collective west.
Oh you mean the US and it's stooges.

>>513344849
> Oh yeah, we totally didn't care...
Here come the subamerican revisionists.

>>513344409 (OP)
I hope europe get nuked.

>>513344849
>For America it is very far away, an open and a continental away it is not important for us
ESL. Time for another english lesson patrushka.

>>513360826
> Every russian who doesnt support Putin is a foreign agent using a VPN.
> There is a reason Putin gets 99% votes in elections. All Russians love him


You're talking about these russian elections?)

with old putin's tetkas crawling on the knees with bunch of votes?

>>513360746
>>513360826
>the least obvious ukranny
So subversive. Much mindmeddling

>>513344477
they will just hire gooks and chinks when only the muscovites are left

>>513344409 (OP)
ok nigger

>>513352240
>Why hasn't he attacked the 3 NATO nations that directly boarder him again?
As soon as the ukrainian SMO is over:
>putin does a lil probing into northern finland
>occupies square km of inconsequential tundra in the middle of nowhere
>everyone will seethes
>nobody wants to start a war over some tundra
>article 5 proven to be fake
>nato falls apart

>>513344477
YOU ARE NEXT! SCUMMY POLE!

>>513347760
It was a mistake to let you live. We should have exterminated your puny scumbags during the USSR era.

>>513344409 (OP)
>11 years occupying part of your country, because you made their puppet president flee (to moscow)
>it's your fault, now disarm, accept another pro-russian embezzler as your puppet ruler (and bow down to mighty puccia)
>also you will be joining EAEU and CSTO instead (totally neutral lol)

>>513361726
This is the big fear.
Though I'd say Narva is the target.
Finland would actually counter an invasion, and Russia knows this.
Mass protests, strikes and calls for seccession in Narva, though, what's Estonia going to do? Fire on civilians in front of the world?

>>513344477
let's do this

>>513361959
>>513362283
>YOU ARE NEXT!!!

>>513344837
>The land and the minerals are not important. The people are.
Oh I see, so that's why they killed more than one million of them.
Clever plan.

>>513345942
They don't have to end the dollar, just free themselves from it.
If they can trade without paying taxes to the US then they will be free.

>>513347076
stay safe, russian bro

>>513347561
>As a Greek
lol

>>513347561
>As a Greek

>>513348246
>Putin wanted to join NATO and EU but the Zionist West needed ''new enemy'' once they finished off with Israel's enemies and ''war on terror'' so they said no. Thank God for that ironically or else Neocons would be having military inside Russia itself and on China's borders and Putin would had been just another neoliberal puppet.

>>513344802
Kek bring it on. To Poland at least

>>513349119
why do you care so much about other people's dick? that's a bit weird you know

>>513363342
> stay safe, russian bro
thank you, bro

>>513346768
You can't argue with kikes anon.
They are always lying, attempting to escape from the truth.
That's the jew IQ, never looking into the light, always in the shade. Away from the grace of almighty God.

>>513344477
Im sick of Poland and Serbia.

>>513347352
anon, you had your dick cut by jews.
just be silent.
try to keep at least some dignity.

>>513344409 (OP)
>Demilitarization and Neutrality. (Never to EU and NATO).
and why would Ukraine or EU or NATO ever agree to such terms? this is literally what they've been fighting and dying for. and no NATO = no peace.

pooptin will just invade a neutral country again after he regroups for a few years. if they don't join NATO the pretext for the next invasion will be: "they were secretly plotting to join NATO."

>>513344409 (OP)
why should russia have anything to say in european issues in the first place? keep to asia where you belong.

>>513347522
>If you address one of the core reasons for Russia invading, Russia will just invade again later
Can you explain, in your own words, how this makes any sense?