Thread 513346382

Look at this. The GeForce RTX 5090 is now widely available for MSRP. Last month they were trying to sell it for +$800.
This is unironically a recession indicator of primary importance.
When even the hardcore enthusiast nerds don't want the top-of-the-line hardware at rock-bottom prices you know it's because they just don't have the money.
These are usually highly educated workers with high-paying jobs.

NJudea isn't selling any of their server hardware either.
Inflation is raping society and causing people to assassinate CEOs and other executives.
They will pop the AI bubble to appease the masses before too many of the management class get made an example of.

I think you mistyped 2 weeks. Also, tdlr. Sage

>>513346382 (OP)
That's fucking ridiculous. What can you even play on the fucking thing that wouldn't play on an RX580 or 1080ti.
Modern gaming is shit anyway.
>more microtransactionslop
>more femininst girlboss slop
>more hero shooterslop
and absolutely worst of all
>more FUCKING unreal engine 5 jeetslop

>>513346542
>What can you even play
with your penis as you watch the artificial pornography tailored to your preferences

>unreal engine 5
yeah that's literally why you need a 5090
to play that shit in 4k or 2k without fake frames

>>513346658
it's literally all because of Unreal 5 that piece of shit has ruined gaming

>>513346382 (OP)
I want to buy a gpu that cost 8500 USD! Does somebody knows how can I unproperly declare the price to customs so I don't have to pay taxes?

>>513346744
All modern game engines are the same, everything is made by shitskins and jews.
They literally make them inefficient on purpose.
They need to sustain the cycle of consumerism to maintain the illusion of an organic industry.
If there isn't always better hardware that you need then you are forced to start asking questions.
That is not good for the social engineering objectives of the jewish central planners.
You are not supposed to ask questions, you are supposed to consume and forget your questions.

The reason everything is shit is very simple. Modern industry is tailored to braindead consumers. It just mimics past cultural artifacts that are proven to stimulate the basest instincts and modifies them to be more manipulative.
Soul doesn't matter, purpose doesn't matter, no one needs your money, it's printed infinitely by the jewish central bank to fund all their social engineering objectives.

Serious lack of games. New battlefield looks interesting.

>>513346382 (OP)
>hardcore enthusiast nerds don't want the top-of-the-line hardware
I didn't bother because high end games are SHIT slop. I'm better off buying Nintendo.

>>513346967
Just ask the vendor nicely dumbass, if you're spending money they'll bend over forward for you. Customs doesn't know the difference between a $500 video card and a $5,000 card, much the same as they didn't know the difference between an $80 cigar and a $2 one when I imported them.
Of course you're a stupid nigger who wants to spend his family's money on retarded anime shit so I doubt you have the requisite social skills anyway, so perhaps kys.

>>513346744
Yeah, they keep touting nanite like it's a god's gift to developers when it completely kills performance.

>>513346382 (OP)
I remember when a near top of the line graphics card cost like $250.... Couldn't have been more than 10 years ago. Prices have went up 10x and salaries have barely moved.

>>513347684
But you can now buy that said graphics card for $5. This is why inflation is low.

>>513347524
>Of course you're a stupid nigger who wants to spend his family's money on retarded anime shit so I doubt you have the requisite social skills anyway, so perhaps kys.

Wtf? Wjy went green goblined at the end?

>>513347684
Also, relying on a salary in 2025 means you are scheduled for MAID. They try to stress murder you. Wagies will not survive the 2030s.

You nerds are annoying

>>513347444
I bought a 5090 at launch for $2700 with the intent to play with it then scalp it.
Literally no one wanted it. There was zero market for those things (at high prices) outside of ebay, which was all chinks scamming the ebay guarantee to steal the card and return a brick to you.
So I tried generating AI slop and modern slop for a month and then returned that piece of shit for a full refund.
Modern games are just so soulless and uncompelling.
kingdom come deliverance 2 I had some hope for, but couldn't get into it at all.
the writing is so fucking awful and the gameplay is the same old rehashed shit, so what is the point?

this gay jewish society is totally worthless, it makes nothing good, there is no future here for us.
we just need to play FPS with destructible environments IRL and crash this circus before AI and drones kill us all

>>513346975
Engines are fine, its the standards that are the problem, you can use any of them engines to create very optimised games that run brilliantly on older hardware but most AAA studios aren't willing or able to do that

>>513348253
>create very optimised games
name one example

anyway what you say could be true to an extent but every game has models with insane amounts of useless polygons you wouldn't even notice missing

>>513347907
Become ungovernable

>>513347094
No it doesn't. Its NAFO mutt propaganda.

>>513348145
As long as the goyims still have their tummies full and favorite niggerball team, they won't revolt.

>>513348317
I'm a mobile game develope, I know how much performance can be squeezed out because I have to, it baffles me when I meet other developers who don't even seem to understand basic optimisation which seems to be often

>>513346382 (OP)
$2k for a GPU is not rock bottom pricing

>>513347867
Because you are either a misguided son of glorious conqueror Chadsxcaltecans and Chadstillians spending a ridiculous amount of money (98% probable), a fucking AnglKike Gringolem expat (1% probable) or a patarrajada defeated Ass-tec indionigger (1% probable)

There are no good new games to play. Who the fuck needs a 2k video card to play Classic WoW and some Doomclones? Even if there were, i still wouldnt spend that much. A decent video card should cost no more than 500 bucks

>>513346382 (OP)
The 1080ti cost $920 adjusted for inflation so that 5090 is still overpriced by $1,079.

I don't understand how publishers thought making awful games wouldn't cause everyone stop buying them. The kids wont get used to it. They know they're being ripped off because they played the older games for free.

>>513347524
>Customs doesn't know the difference
The world isn't used to hear mexican customs stories, we have complete and utter thieves in charge there and i use those terms knowing full well we have tons of muggers and cartel members taking protection money, the custom officers are far more overt in their pillaging than actual criminals.
There's a reason traditional cartels started as a way to bring things to the country safely.

>>513349170
>They know they're being ripped off because they played the older games for free.
Roblox and Mineycrafta still being absurdly popular is enough proof video games as a medium failed long time ago.

>>513349312
Those aren't high end games that need a $3k graphics card. None of these kids are going to be begging their parents to be able to play Helldivers 2

>>513351570
The 1660 can play Helldivers 2.

>>513351675
I can play it on my laptop but I won't because the update LITERALLY BROKE IT!

imagine ever buying the top of the line graphics card in your life

you could just use shitty ones on low settings

most people are playing cs go its from 1980 and minecraft and runescape the shit runs on toasters

battle field 6 and gta 6 will be dead in 1 week nobody needs those games

AAA games havnt been popular in a long time

>>513346542

5080 performs almost as well as the 4090, but neither comes close to the 5090. Granted, with new games like BF6, a 5080 or 4090 is still going to give you like 120 frames in 4k and 200+ in 1440p. A 5090 though is really only the card that can truly make use of unfiltered, native 4K. But I really don’t think it’s worth it. People shit on DLSS but the reality is that the new cards are all built with DLSS in mind. With all that being said, I’m still going to upgrade my 5080 to a 5090 because of graphics autism.

We’ve been in a recession for almost 2 years. All the stats are lies

>>513346382 (OP)
I have a PC with a 4090 OC Asus rog strix and 7950x3D, so I don't think I need a 5090 and 9950x3D for a while.

But yeah, recession is definitely coming whether you like it or not

>>513346975
The entire video game market will crash harder than it did in 1983 if GTA6 comes out and ends up being a massive piece of shit quality game.

>>513347684
>I remember when a near top of the line graphics card cost like $250.... Couldn't have been more than 10 years ago.

They were cheaper, but they weren't THAT much cheaper... Pic related, the best GPU money could buy a decade ago.

>>513351885
Most people just want to play games which any dedicated (and probably most integrated) graphics card can do these days. Sure the next goal might be higher framerate or 4K but the gap between playability and top performance is thousands of dollars so most people say fuck it.

>>513346382 (OP)
gaming is poor investment recently because of all the property rights that fuck the consumer in the ass not to mention the fact most games suck donkey balls since gamergate
its better to just go out and touch the grass instead of waste even more money to play good games created 10-20 years ago which you can already play on what you have

>>513352196
Rockstar is as afraid to release GTA VI as Bethesda is to release TES VI. It's pretty much impossible that either of them can live up to over a decade of hope.

>>513346542
>What can you even play on the fucking thing that wouldn't play on a 1080ti.
There's at least four games. Which probably aren't worth playing.

bump because fuck this >>513346445 nigger in particular

>>513352221
>$700 card isn’t THAT cheap
>meanwhile the modern equivalent cards are going for $2000+
C’mon, it was WAAAYYY cheaper seven years ago, even adjusted for inflation the cards would be only an extra $200 instead of this greedy exorbitantly priced ai driven abomination jewvidia has bent us over with.

>>513352497
kek yeah two massively hyped games will WRECK the gaming industry for years. Gamers are already bitching about the Switch 2 being underwhelming and way too expensive.

>>513348990
>adjusted for inflation
That's a garbage metric because wages haven't increased.

AI is a scam. People are figuring it out.

The hardware itself is degenerating. An Nvidia 3000 line card performs BETTER than an Nvidia 5000 line card in various tests. How the fuck does a 10 year old card beat a new $2000 card? Jensen is pulling gookjew shit, that's how.

>>513352755
>An Nvidia 3000 line card performs BETTER than an Nvidia 5000
The 3080 destroys the 5060.
In two generations you think they would be able to make a 60 series card outperform the old 80 series.

>>513347684
>Couldn't have been more than 10 years ago

Been buying cards for 20 years, they were never that cheap. There was a short period of time around 2007 when you could get a mid range ATI card for around that much, but top of the line has always been $600+.

>>513346542
they were selling cards for AI, the Ai bubble bursted.

>>513352672
Adjusted for inflation, $700 from back then is a $1000. And top of the line GPU then isn't equivalent to a top of the line GPU now.

That 1080 Ti, for example, has a 470 square mm die... A 5090 has a 750 square mm die. Even if you assume TSMC charges the exact same amount for wafer today as they charged for wafer then, that's 60% more.

So just adjusting for retail inflation (and not TSMC/production inflation) and die size, all else being equal a 5090 should be at least $1600.

>>513346975
I'm quite happy to play Rimworld and Starsector. Can't remember the last time I bought a "AAA" game.

>>513347684
I didn't want to spend that much back then.

>>513352707
It really could. I honestly doubt either studio has anything up their sleeves that is better than what modders have already done to both 10yo games.

>>513352715
Okay but the failure mode is just me being even more correct.

>>513346382 (OP)
i use gtx 2080ti

>>513352823

>3080 vs 5060

80-series is enthusiast/high end and 60-series is more budget/low end. Not really a fair comparison.

waitfags we fucking won

>>513352945
Now add the 32GB vs 11GB vram, 512 bit vs 384 bit bus, 575W vs 250W tdp.
Turns out that MSRP is a fair price. Still, abandoned PhysX + melting cables are very strong arguments against upgrading from 4090.

>>513353107
Back in our day 5 years of progress brought a completely new standard. I feel bad for zoomers because for their entire lives everything has been the same.

>>513353107
>Not really a fair comparison.
It used to be.

Pic related. And that's just one generation to the next, 3000 to 5000 is two generations.

>>513353136
correction, were winning, because we're still waiting. last gpu i bought was a 2080 for my wife. never again, at least not until i can get a sizeable performance upgrade for the same price.

>>513346542
VR gaming mate, especially since mods lets you turn a lot of non-VR games into quality VR experiences e.g. cyberpunk2077. You need an absolute beast of a computer to run that. It's also the main reason VR hasnt become more mainstream yet, people are just priced out of it.

>>513353245
Zoomers always say super depressing things like "an 80-series card will always beat an 60-series card".

>>513353290
5060ti is 16GB of Vram versus 10GB of Vram for a 3080. A lot of the older cards are going to struggle due to the Vram demands even if they are faster cards. The sad part is games are more lazy in design, games in the past had to be designed with low expectations of the tech in PC's

Don't worry, Meta, Microsoft, Google and others still buy shitload of their enterprise hardware. Few months and Nvidia will adjust that more wafers will go to those sectors as they make 20x the money on that stuff over things like consumer hardware.

>>513353107
Retard, 60 series is mid range, 50 series is budget, 80 series is top of the line and 90 series is top of line overclocked. Nvidia has used the same numbering scheme for 15+ years until the 4000 series came out where they downgraded their entire product line. The top of the line card has only been good for two generations forever now, the 5060 should absolutely be on par with a 3080 and it would be if it wasn't really a 5050 being upsold as a mid range card.

>>513353290
>upvote benchmark

>>513353497
Skyrim VR is pretty well optimized and the adult games like Heat and VRChat run on anything. Nobody cares about Cyberpunk and the next biggest game is microsoft flight simulator lol.

>>513346542
I think there are two games out that you can't play with 1080ti. Both came out this year.
But more will follow with shitty unreal engine games

>>513353497
I have a VR headset and it still sucks dicks on my 6700xt just fine

>>513353497
the way things are progressing we need to wait at least for 6090/7090 to handle vr well

>>513346382 (OP)
>graphics cards will crash the industry

>>513353497
>>513354664

I would love to mod Skyrim and play in VR but the mods are just such a pain in the ass to get right. Is it easier with Cyberpunk? Dicking around with load order and compatibility is such a drag but VR does look very fun.

>>513354765
getting cyberpunk to work in VR in the first place is a massive pain in the ass, it's a mod itself and the guy wants money for it

>>513354933
>>513354765
pic rel is good for vr but needs very good both vr and gpu

>>513351885
Oh look, a fake frame apologist.
Muh 5090 harder, retard. 40 series was bad enough.

>>513346542
Stellar Blade.
But if you have the hardware or a PS5 it's pointless

>>513355185

Oh look, another retard who doesn’t know that frame gen and DLSS are different technologies

>>513355115
I've only got one of those $500 Chinese headsets, it was enough for me to know I don't really give a shit about VR. I live in a 1 bedroom flat with shit everywhere too which probably doesn't add to the experience.
The only thing it was good for was porn, but there's no way I want to get caught with my cock in my hand with a fucking VR headset on. My brother, dad and friends don't knock when they come to my place lol.

>>513346382 (OP)
people aren't buying because no money + newer games use fake frames instead of you know making better hardware, im pretty sure newer cards have less VRAM too a very important consideration for image generation and especially text stuff at home

i was doing great with "AI" technology a couple years back, hit a hardware roadblock couldnt afford, then faggot governments and techies censored everything and stifled everything and i've been depressed ever since.

>>513355249
>stellar blade recommended 2060 super or 5700xt
Cmon man that doesn't need a video card that costs more than 4 playstation 5s

>>513346382 (OP)
how many recessions do we need before something actually happens?

>>513355687
SB is amazingly optimized but it does fill up a ton on vram due to giant texture sizes. I was reaching the limit on pretty low texture settings with an 8GB card so it’s a portent of how much more video memory I need to get.

>>513355416
i played it on 500% headsets nad 2080ti and couldn see shit on the radar

games are made to run on a ps5 now which is somewhere between a gtx 1060 and 2070 so there is no reason to buy these cards

>>513346382 (OP)
No offense, but why are you living in St. Louis? Did the black influence finally fade out?

>>513348145
Maybe should have kept it, imagine the Gothic / Risen quality games you'll be able to make with a vague storyline/aesthetic prompt in AI in a couple of years?

>>513346382 (OP)
Wrong. Lowering interest rates = assets appreciate. Stock market doesn't care. Same thing was being said in 2020 and trump will do anything to prevent a recession since it makes him look bad. He doesn't care that it will cause 30% to 40% inflation again. Too old to care.

>>513358025
They had a 1800sft "studio" I was looking at that was a vaulted celling brock walled industrial loft feel for like 200k. Looks like it would have been an Awesome place to live if it wasn't a 3k a month HOA. xD

>>513348590
how do chink gachas fare performance-wise?

>>513346382 (OP)
>This is unironically
happens every release...
fuckin retard.

>>513346445
fpbp

>>513346382 (OP)
It's because the hardware is fucking shit too. They gimped the VRAM so it's fucking useless because they want to jew you on AI cards.

>>513346382 (OP)
>They will pop the AI bubble to appease the masses before too many of the management class get made an example of.

I really wonder how this is going to play out. Are they just going to admit Capitalism has failed? It's pretty clear society has been in gridlock for years now.

I'm just going to stick with my Xbox one since it's pretty much the best for gaming.