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>UA military experts cautioned about Russia’s 100,000-strong concentration on the Donetsk front.
>Ukrainian UAVs struck the LUKOIL-Volgograd oil refinery, causing major fires and visible damage to key production units. Satellite images showed burn marks near pipelines and storage tanks, as a second fire erupted at the Volgograd refinery during repairs of earlier Ukrainian drone strike damage, highlighting continued vulnerability of Russian energy assets.
>Ukrainian authorities denied rumors of an “air truce,” confirming no such agreement exists
>Bloomberg wrote Trump informed NATO that Putin rejected a ceasefire, instead pushing for a full deal, with Trump pressing Zelensky for concessions
>Reuters reports that First Lady Melania Trump handed Putin a personal letter about abducted Ukrainian children
>Trump spoke for more than an hour and a half with Zelenskyy and the European leaders to brief them on his meeting with putin
>Summary of the Alaska meeting: Lunch cancelled, post delegation interview cancelled, Trump returns to White House
>Russian banks began to reject almost 80% of loans applications
>monke gave Trump maps and historical materials that testify to the “artificial nature of the formation of the Ukrainian state” - Reuters
>Trump and monke land in Alaska meet about ending war in Ukraine

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ZIGGER DEATH

copefensive status?

Yeet ziggers

Thread number fell off.. should be #17895

Reminder: another two million worth of TZD would be necessary for MIGHTY POCCNR BEAR to conquer oblasts it added to its constitution 3 years ago.

Happy Donetsk surrender day piggers !
Russia won

TZD
until it is done

>>513348235
whats the problem? mighty poccia will just replace them with poojets.
king monkes and his frens will live as now

>starts namefagging
>realizes he became a lolcow for it
>drops namefagging out of shame
>some time later tries a new nametag
>its somehow just as retarded as the last one
>still being laughed at as a lolcow
>drops namefagging out of shame
A mysterious Kabyle shitskin mind

GREGGPOSTING

Over the past 1,010 days of full-scale war, Russia has managed to occupy less than one percent of Ukraine's territory.

On November 12, 2022, the enemy controlled 108,651 square kilometers of Ukraine.
Today, the corresponding figure is 114,493 square kilometers. This means that an additional 5,842 squarekilometers have come under occupation - equivalent to just under 1 percent (0.97%) of Ukraine's internationally recognized territory.

In the initial stages of the war, the Russians made significant advances.
However, thanks to Ukrainian counteroffensives in the north and in the Kharkiv and Kherson regions, significant areas were recaptured.

After November 2022, Russia continued its offensive operations, with Bakhmut being one of the most famous examples.
These attacks are still ongoing today, albeit with interruptions.

The hope in Ukraine is that these figures will be noticed by our American partners, their own calculations are a bit lame.

SLAVA UKRAINI

So Trump surrendered unconditionally to Monke?

>*ding* *ding* *ding*
we have a new winner!

>>513348210
>17895

1 070 000 dead pidorussians by now

that means 60 dead pidorussians per thread

each thread has around 300 posts

that means 1 pidor per 5 post.

litaraly every fifth post here means another ACK!

crazy

https://litter.catbox.moe/oo839klj2ry6qv01.mp4

>>513348210
>Implying anyone cares
Just put 148880083 next bread

>they sent 3rd spetsnaz into a pointless copensive with no backup
For muricans, that's an equivalent of sending green berets or army rangers in meat assault with no backup to a near certain death/capture. And they complain about Syrski, I wanna know which knuckle dragging commander approved this "plan".

>>513348401
YOU LOST LIBERASHKA !

>>513348265
Zelenskyy is walking into the White House today with the leaders of the UK, France, Germany, and the EU.
They are there to present a united front against any land-for-peace deal.
The "surrender" you're celebrating is Putin being confronted by the leaders of Europe's most powerful nations, who are all backing Ukraine.

>>513348531
Damn, I need to post faster

>>513348688
No USA intel for Ukraine then

>>513348075 (OP)
KEKAROOOOOOO

>"supporting russia is a right wing thing"
>look inside
>assorted mystery meat with commie symbols including demsocs that went deep to the far left
>unironic grifters who shifted their ideology to sell their procured z merchandise
>the only right wing elements are the indian, chinese, and africa nationalists who're salivating at the prospect of the downfall of the west

>>513348506
He did. He also hopes this will stop ppl attacking him for Epstein files which he cannot handle and instead hopes ppl will shit on him for cucking to Monke (I think that at this point he does not give a fuck about nobel peace price)

>Kabyle shitskin finally gets a metodichka appointed in regards to aquafresh poster buckbreaking him
>its an extremely stale "muh liberals" one
>also delivered in full caps to express brown happiness with it
Kek

>>513348506
drumpf in new chamberlain

At this point we must accept that russia has kompromat on trump. EU countries are buying american weapons and trump is still pushing for Ukraine to capitulate, occam's razor and all that.

TZD everyone!

>>513348235
This is some Zap Brannigan tier shit. The only tactic they seem to have is wave after wave of their own men. How broken do you have to be to sign up for that?

>>513348531
>1 070 000 dead pidorussians
Ummm sweety it’s actuallie 1 070 000 000 300 dead orcs (no Ukrainians were killed in this conflict). Slava hesoyam, pls send money

seeing all these ziggers kill themselves motivated me to take my life more seriously. i'm going to take care of myself better, do things i am passionate about and hopefully become a the best version of myself. thank you /yu-hey-gee/, wagmi.

>pov: you hear there are hohols hiding deep underground who think nothing going to happen to the them
AHAHAHA

>>513348746
Naw. They’ll just placate Donald and pat him on the head. He’ll feel good about himself and the intel will continue to flow.

>>513349091
this will be you next year once the payments for contracts decrease and pypa will have to start mobilizing in greater numbers

>>513348746
Your information is six months out of date.
The US briefly paused intel sharing in March after the February meeting. It was fully restored.
During that pause, France tried to fill the gap and learned a hard lesson: 15 French military satellites cannot replace the 246 US satellites.
The European leaders are in Washington today not to sideline the US, but because they know they cannot win this war without American intelligence and military power. This is a united front, not a divided one.

>>513349019
No. If they had, they would have already used it to push Trump to end the war. What they have is entire former KGB/FSB spook leadership skilled at subversion, bullshitting and spook shit while the US administration is led by a childfucking ego-drived nepobaby and his yesmen/women grifters with no political skills whatsoever. USA lost without even firing a shot. Also next year is the 250th anniversary of USA, out of all choices for US president its gonna be Trump to celebrate quarter of a century of that country. Symbolism here goes pretty fucking hard lmao.

>>513348075 (OP)
TZD
TCD
TJD

Copefensive status?

zigger getting eaten by crows

>>513349422
THE SNAIL POSTING IS BACK

>>513348516
Why is his mouth open?

>>513348746
Melania will tard-wrangle Trump to listen to Euro leaders.
My fav allegory of Trump I’ve seen here is that he’s a fluffy chair. He’s shaped by the last person who sat on him.

>>513349543
So if any chechen comes by he can still be used even if rigor mortis sets in

>>513349399
>No. If they had, they would have already used it to push Trump to end the war

Disagree. Trump is in a min-maxing position where he has to minimize suspicions while maximizing russian objectives, he can't just shoot zelensky

>>513349543
maybe he remembered all the good times with chechens in his last moment

>>513349076
Turns out there is a benefit in intentionally keeping most of your serfs at near-poverty levels - when you present them with unimaginable (by poccian standarts) money for a seemingly 30-minute frontline adventure, you'd have A LOT of gullible retards signing up for a chance to set their own life straight.
>>513349422
Memoryholed so hard zhills now say its off-topic to discuss it

>>513348803
>supporting russia is a right wing thing

>>513349483
God was no longer with him

He-he, ukies now assemble licensed missiles with 1000kg payload.

>>513349613
Realistically how many mobiks(left) does Russia have access to?

>>513349727
Mom, I want Taurus!
We have Taurus at home.

>Taurus at home

>>513349727
that's v1

>>513349727
>AAAAAIIIEEEEEE BLUDDY BANDERONATSEES ARE REDEEMING FORBIDDEN V1 WERMACHT DESIGNS ON US!!!!
>HELP ME ZOGNNY-SAMA, I'M WINNING SO HARD FROM THIS!!!

>>513349727
That’s a V1 rocket

>>513349605
I dunno. Trump isn’t subtle. I think this is literally just that he wants a Nobel peace prize because Obama got one and he feels insecure about it. In a way it’s worse than blackmail because it’s just so much stupider.
>>513349613
What I wonder about though is at what point do the deaths and disappearances start hitting home? They might be poor and easy to mislead, but at the end of the day, agreeing to die for money isn’t something most people would do. Unless I’m missing the extent of the problem there. Which I could be, and wow is that grim too.

>>513349727
When a pro russian president will be elected after Zelensky all those tech will go to Russia !

Such a rightfull punishment for Rheimental nuggets

>>513349727
>coming to an arms manufacturing plant near you

>>513349642
i find it funny how kosher right is bending over backwards for russia

>>513349642
it's not about the russian itself, it's about their supporters on the west

>>513349605
Noone said anything about shooting Zeleboba. He is the president of the fucking US who is famously known to be a badboy "fuck the rules" type of guy. Its not like MAGA would turn on him just just fucking out of Ukraine saying "well its not our conflict lmao, fuck eastern europe", he has no opposition in the US (democrats are fucking dead). Truth is he wanted to be seen as a peacemaker, he adores Putin and hates Zelensky for not throwing Biden Jr. under the bus BUT at that point he still wanted to get the nobel peace price while not completely fucking over Ukraine since the sheer amout of US resources that went there (hence the mineral deal which to me seemed as a hedge position for if (when) negotiations fail.

>>513349854
>at what point do the deaths and disappearances start hitting home?

>>513349612
Ah yes all the good times in the Russian army

>>513349858
I don’t think there’s ever going to be a pro Russian president of Ukraine again. Russia has bombed into rubble all the Russophile parts of the country so they’re not very pro Russian anymore, and the rest seem to have lurched into the ‘kill it with fire’ school of thought with respect to the tsardom of Muscovy.

Uh oh, doesn't look good for us, zizters.

>>513349727
Wow imagine the sheer amout of debris damage after this is shot down by russian AD.

>>513348210
>#17895
DAMN, 3 days to Kyiv?

>>513349811
>>513349849
Not really, but it's the cheapest and easiest way to put a sustainer jet engine on your missile without having to do intakes on the front of the missile itself.
You don't need to reinvent the wheel, especially if you're just going for maximum amount. It's just like how they're not using expensive bespoke drone designs but rather off the shelf shit.

>>513349727
No german parts in there at all btw
Just like shasneeds are all domestically produced in puccua

>>513349727
find the nigger who let the journos in and cut his balls off

>>513349780
I don't think that it's a Taurus equivalent. It's ground launched, much larger and heavier.

>>513349858
>When a pro russian president will be elected
Keak

>>513349916
That’s what I’m wondering about. As in telling someone they’re going to die in a horrible way in a foreign country isn’t something you can typically get someone to agree to. That’s just one of the many reasons defensive wars tend to be more successful than offensive ones. I’m probably missing some elements of the psychology and sociology there though. Maybe I should just start assuming all the homo Sovieticus stuff is 100% accurate.

>>513349915
>>513349854

So why not just put pressure on russia to make it end the war? What's the issue here?

>>513349076
Thing is, they don't know just how bad it is on the frontlines. Sure, money lottery ticket where you bet your own life is one thing; but. They think they will be killing 10 "hohols" per day, they consider this like US trip to Iraq, albeit slightly more dangerous. They might even consider Ukraine like a region during active uprising. They are divorced from the reality, like trannies. Only when they get to the frontline trench, they discover: "it's not like what they show on the TV". They don't know they sign up for dodging drones. They don't want to know. They are proud of their ignorance, even.

>>513350027
Uhmmm sweaty hostomel was just a military exercise to demonstrate good will

>>513350069
Yeah, all these eurofagottian soi journalists must be beheaded on spot.

>>513350114
Kyiv is captured by zig forces since 2022
Kharkiv in 2023
Odessa and Sumy in 2024
And Pokrovsk in 2025

>>513349769
Foid population is now also used for assault missions, Pooty can realistically grind through literally the entire population. As soon as he couldn't print more money to give out as contract/death pay, he'll just go with total mobilization and send whoever he can get at gunpoint.
>>513349854
>Unless I’m missing the extent of the problem there
You definitely are.
Any place at about 100km away from Moscow or Pidorsburg is an absolute shithole still living in early soviet/late tsardom level of tech, most with no way of ever seeing progress past that point, so you can imagine the desperation there. I'd estimate thatpuccia has already grinded close to half of villages/city-type settlements to a fully abandoned status, but unless they *really* start touching the capitals, no one will notice the missing, at least until war ends.

>>513350099
Because he’s lazy and he thinks it’ll be easier to pressure Ukraine than Russia. Stop trying to do 5d chess with the guy because he legit isn’t that clever. The anon calling him a nepobaby was right.

>>513349854
At this point, whoever gives donnie Peace Nobel prize deserves Peace Nobel prize

>>513350097
dude its russia, nobody cares
the life of a russian has no value to themselves, let alone the government
they are a perfect slave race and they will cheer on the death of their compatriots, as long as it brings them even a modicum of a feeling of national pride or achievement

>>513350206
Pressuring russia would actually be easier. Just tell one of the retards sorrounding him to enact secondary sanctions and that's it, war is over.
Pressuring Ukraine hasn't worked the first time, has already resulted in bad optics, and Zelensky has european leaders pushing for him as well.
I don't see how pressuring Ukraine is easier.
Occam's razor tells me russia has leverage on trump one way or another.

>>513350097
>Maybe I should just start assuming all the homo Sovieticus stuff is 100% accurate.
It is. And it's hard to root out as well, still dealing with that crap over here in Poland.

>>513350105
Occam’s razor indicates this is a pretty good way to explain the behavior. They’re just unaware of what is happening and are easy to scam. Grim.
>>513350190
This makes sense as well. Do you think they’re going to have to start digging into the population in the larger cities? Either way. Also grim. Either way, thanks for the context. Fuck I sometimes forget how some of these people live.

>>513349605
cant trump just say nah, fake news, if monke shows kompormat ?

>>513350075
That's fair. It's more like Tomahawk, innit?

A few more hours until we finally have PEACE in the Ukraine.

>>513350099
Cause he likes Russia. He likes Russia cause:
1) Putin is strongman, he wants to be more like Putin
2) Russia makes libs, rhinos and euros seethe = russia good
3) Prior business with shady russian underground with money laundering
4) Stronger Russia means weaker EU and EU is a competition.
5) People dealing with Russia means no one will be too interested in Epstein files
6) Ending war in Europe (by any means necessary, but mainly by cucking out) means he may get Nobel Peace Price
7) He still is a boomer raised in the shadow of Cold War and nuclear annihiliation. He is scared of muh russian nukes.

>>513350345
Are you saying that Russians will leave Ukrainian territories in a few more hours? That would be the best, wouldn't it?

>>513350273
pressuring ukraine is easier because they have leverage - weapons and intel
anything short of attacking russia militarily is not enough pressure on russia, you can put a 1000% tariff on them and everyone could stop buying oil from them, and they would still happily live in misery and poverty, rather than be perceived as surrendering to the evil west

>>513350239
speaking of which, is there a western country that enslaved their own people like katsaps did?
negroes in the US don't count, they were brought in from the outside

>>513350386
In a few hours, European leaders and Zelensky will declare they accept the join US and Russian plan to cease hostilities.

>>513350227
>the Nobel peace prize for heroic placation of an irate manbaby with nuclear weapons
>>513350239
All this shit just makes my brain do a record scratch noise. I’d say it’s just not possible to get humans to act that way, but the evidence says otherwise.
>>513350290
Most of the former USSR states carry sociological scars as well as economic and environmental ones from their time being ruled by Moscow. What amazes me is how Russia and those countries trapped in its orbit have done so poorly, and those that left Moscow’s orbit have done so comparatively well. As in I’m not saying your country doesn’t have some serious damage from their misrule, but I can go to Poland and drink the tap water.

>>513350319
>Do you think they’re going to have to start digging into the population in the larger cities?
If the war goes any longer and ukies manage to at least double the casualty rate as per Madyar's plan, then Pootin would be left with no choice but to grab the rich serfs from the capitals. It *is* happening via shadow mobilization, but kept to a very limited degree for said capitals to not aggravate the population early, something something boil the frog slowly. My guess is the further you go into siberian regional cities, the more prominent the FSB mobik grabbing becomes.

About the limbless General from yesterday

>>513350448
not really, liberty and rights are historically a common theme in the west, while russia is a collectivist society much akin to china
we are somewhere in the middle, where a lot of the older generations are still completely buck broken like russians, but most of the younger generations are much closer to the westoid train of thought

>>513350448
unironically PLC. peasants were slaves in all by name

Not sure if anyone mentioned this buy pozzia attacked the Azeri gas terminal again, which Azerbaijan mentioned as a pretense for arm shipments to Ukraine.

>>513350457
The "Russian plan," as stated by Putin in Alaska, is the annexation of all occupied territory.
The leaders of the UK, France, Germany, and the EU flew to Washington for the specific purpose of rejecting that plan.
Your prediction is that Europe's leaders will land, walk into the Oval Office, and immediately agree to the exact thing they flew across the ocean to prevent.
This is not a surrender. It is a pre-emptive diplomatic strike to ensure there is no surrender.

>>513350587
That’s going to be interesting in some of the larger but still distant cities. Especially if they crack down on people bribing their way out of conscription.

>>513349991
>>513350088
Remember Georgia 2008 ?
They heard reason after all !

>>513349612
you seem upset, piggy

>>513350587
as more and more people go to the war, the more everyday life will change for the worse, it is only a matter of time when food shortages will start to hit smaller cities and eventually spb, moscow wont suffer at all imho

>>513350764
>Comparing Georgia to Ukraine
Have the last 3,5 years not taught you anything?
Mark my words, TZD will continue until you understand

>>513350496
Poland was really unruly even throughout the communist period, I would go ahead and say our commies just paid off kacaps so they fuck off and did their own thing. Which makes sense, as we were separate country and not on the exact frontline (East Germany was a buffer). Hell, there are theories that martial law in the early 80's was put in to avoid the "brotherly help" from Red Army, as it happened in Hungary and Czechslovakia.

Also, us West Slavs were always resourceful people, also, being outside the USSR proper helped with cutting ties with Muscovy easily. Belarus and Ukraine weren't so lucky.

>>513350764
They’re small and isolated. Ukraine is not small and not isolated. Plus the ukies seem to really despise them now. Then again, i can’t see why anyone would be pro Russia. It’s like being pro Mongolian horde.

>>513350709
>Your prediction is that Europe's leaders will land, walk into the Oval Office, and immediately agree to the exact thing they flew across the ocean to prevent.

That is indeed my prediction.
Everyone is tired of the slaughter in the Ukraine.

>>513350014
50 a month is crazy actually

>>513350600
kekaroo

>>513350631
That's just feudalism, anonku. Whole Europe was like that at some point, we just evolved past it as someone smarter realized that it's better to have some free thought as it helps with technological and social development. Carrot works better than a stick in the long term.

>>513350631
I guess so, but I meant in the last 100-200 years.
Katsaps abolished it in 1861 but de-facto kept doing it even during soviets (villagers weren't given passports and couldn't leave the collective farms without "approval")

If only you knew how brown things really are

>>513350837
because you are catholics and not orthodox, orthodox church serves the state and the ruler, ultimate bootlicker, while catholic church serves the vatican, so there was always a need for balance, and serfs could even ask for help from the church, unlike in russia for example, where there is no protection on confession for example, and a priest must report any "bad" behaviour, like not liking the current tsar and etc.

>>513349858
>When a pro russian president will be elected
is this going to be before or after Hamas wins election in Israel?
some of you niggers have such poor grasp on reality it never ceases to amaze me

>>513350868
Everyone is tired of the slaughter.
Especially the Russians, who are losing 14 men for every 1 Ukrainian, according to President Trump's intelligence briefing.
The European leaders are in Washington to ensure Ukraine has the tools to make that ratio even worse. That is the fastest way to end the slaughter that Russia started.

>>513350319
https://youtu.be/5WjGcr9KJEQ?si=szHOv5XA3_ghh0Wq here, an example. During Brezhnev, they built another train line across the Siberia (if Chinese would attack, their first line would be easily captured because it's close to the border. Thus they built a second one). A "temporary" bridge has been built, before modern installation was put in the place next to it. The villages there are either working at train station/conservation, or are simply doing nothing, without any perspectives whatsoever. The only connection here to the world is a train. Expensive one, too. From what I saw, it's at least 5 times more expensive than Polish train to transport any goods. Thus, everyone is forced to use "temporary" bridge. It's cheaper to risk your life over a shabby bridge instead of paying money for a train in a relatively good shape. ... Temporary bridge isn't free either, but I suppose locals don't have to pay the bridge toll (~200€).

>>513350837
That tracks. After all, you guys have been fighting for your independence for how long? That you would finagle as much autonomy as possible even within the Warsaw pact makes sense. I guess I just look at the stats that come from the western aligned former Warsaw pact states and those that couldn’t fully escape. The Baltics, Poland, Czechia, Slovenia, etc, they’re all doing markedly better than anyone still stuck dealing with Russia. Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus. Poorer, shorter life expectancy, and so on. Though with you guys as a template I think Ukraine might do pretty well after this war is over and they’re hopefully closer to Europe.

>>513351036
>The European leaders are in Washington to ensure Ukraine has the tools to make that ratio even worse.

What tools?
The Trump admin has made it clear it's not interested in funding this war any longer.

>>513350600
>General Abachev
now he's General Samovarov

>>513351040
… that’s … I don’t even know. That video. Wtf.

>>513348209
fertilized

>>513350939
Russia never evolved beyond feudalism.

>>513351011
I think the orthodox issue is a bit more complicated, it must be more dependant on the specific orthodox church rather than orthodoxy in general. Look at Greece, for example, but I suspect there can be influence from Athenian democracy and as such their culture is more freedom-oriented. Byzantines being absolute fucking assholes might have also helped.

>>513351085
The primary tool is the 50% tariff on all Indian goods.
The administration has shifted from directly funding Ukraine's defense to systemically defunding Russia's offense. The goal is to choke the oil revenue that pays for the slaughter, forcing Russia's economic partners to bear the cost of the war.

>>513351040
and many russians feel pride looking at such infrastructure
>haha homo trannies from degenerate west all pussies! unlike us based trad orthodox who are not afraid of such minor things!

You're seething in your cuck corner while Russians are living their lives unbothered, happy, in their lane, flourishing. This is all the info I need to know all your propaganda is fake.

>>513349613
kinda looks like a rabbit now
rip snail. you are only rabbit now

>>513349076
That's General Brannigan for you! And why should BBC POCCNR change the most successful tactic in human history

>>513351171
>Russia never evolved beyond feudalism.
Nuh-huh. They successfully adopted absolutism in XVIII century.
Not much progress since then, tho.

>>513351194
church is a great instrument of control and influence, because it is designed in such way, and for examplr monke wants russian church to get back in the ukraine

>Aryan frontline fire brigade warriors of Azov smash minor jewtinist-bolshevist advanve in Po/k/rovsk in no time at all

You love to see it.

Ziggeroid trannies can't stop taking L's

>>513350190
reminds me of that one picture of moscow that looked like actual slums with the "metro" area in the background - I was legit fooled by propaganda that surely at least st. pidor or moscow would be modern(ish)

>>513351253
They're literally stealing butter and selling it on the black market in Pidorashka you delusional zigger tranny, kek

>>513351171
Russia is even worse. They are so perfectly neo feudalist, it's comical:
>Big Boss Putin lords over his siloviki retards who in turn all own specific parts of russia's wealth to do monkeh's bidding.
>Nobody has enough power to attack the boss, russian laws and the beraucracy are designed to protect the boss and hos pals.
>This makes russia incredibly inefficient and corrupt, to a point that a large part of the populace very poor.
>Everyone outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg lives either in garbage or is fucking homeless.
>Jobs are not secure for most of the populace, many work as day laborers like in the old times.
>Russia only makes money with selling oil and recourses, like some medieval african kingdom.
>Army is there to brutalize the populace and is largely corrupt, badly led, with terrible euipment and corruption.

If you told me Putin was actually Mdubu III of Nigeria, I would have believed you.

>>513351283
I would argue they still are feudalistic, or display many such qualities. Central command is in moscow, that loots everything from their outer territories. People outside the rulers exist only to collect resources and ship them to moscow.

>>513351012
Only 21% of ukrainian (galician zoomers) want war to continue

>>513351253
>russians feel like theyre gonna be broomed even for the wrong answer on a poll
lmao

>>513351304
I've grown to be quite the azov fanboy
>most based fighters in ukraine easily

>>513351253
i believe it. Putin is throwing all the money into the war machine and military contractors are paying really well to any retard who is capable of moving bomb production forward. millions of gold digging whores who got their LADAs and apartments are currently probably living the best they ever have or will in the future as they are burning through the windfall from their cubed husbands.
parties are really fun a few hours in when everyone is intoxicated and doesn't think of consequences. the problem with that is that parties have to end at some point due to constraints of reality.

also, any factory worker drone retard in Germany lives better than any of these "satisfied Russians". let's not even get into the comparison of the middle class.

>>513351407
unlike for most countries, corruption is the core of the government and the only reason it exists
there is a word feeding (кopмлeниe) that explains the process

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5

>>513351352
Nafo propaganda and didn't happen.
>>513351451
Also nafo propaganda.
When you're winning, it's this easy.

Fun fact:
Russia got its ass kicked back in 2008. Destroyed columns, destroyed planes, injured general, dead zigers, etc.
They weren't ready and cried a lot how everything went to shit.
Peepoo signed a peace treaty immidieately, without any demands like recognition or anything.

Till this day they cope about being close to Tbilisi, just like they were close to Kyiv.

>>513351421
>Central command is in moscow, that loots everything from their outer territories. People outside the rulers exist only to collect resources and ship them to moscow.
Centralization is a sign of absolutism. Together with the single leader having full power over all subordinates.
Feudalism's key point is the chain of command that dos not allow, or at least severely hinders, commanding over-the-head.
"My vassal's vassal is not my vassal" and such.

>>513351493
There's some good irony in how POCCNR based its entire anti-Ukraine propaganda on "muh banderonazi regime", but once the war ends there is a very high chance that some actual far-right Azov member will come to presidency as a reactionary shift of power, and pozzia will have no one but itself to blame for it, even through it had all chances to amend things once pro-peace Zel was elected.

>>513351612
>kormlenie
There is a nice creepypasta about it.
https://mrakopedia.net/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B5_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5

>>513350939
You get several written accounts of European travellers from across the Europe, and they describe Polish peasants acting like modern day Africans when volunteers come to their village. No, that wasn't the norm in Europe. Unironically, early medieval times were better for our peasants than late renaissance: there was higher social mobility back then, and even occasional marriages between nobility and peasantry. Later though, when nobility was less busy fighting off Teutonic Knights and more busy with sitting on their arse at their local village they owned - they became glorified merchants and managers, slowly raising hours, taxation, and after 400 years they didn't even consider their peasants as human anymore. Before Łokietek, a peasant could "open a civil case" against a noble and even win; later though noble would kill such a peasant on a spot, and nothing would happen to the noble.

Trivia: "chłop" means slave. Proper, neutral meaning word for a peasant would be "kmieć". Nobility insulted peasantry as slaves for so long, the initial insult has been forgotten to the ages.

Did you never asked a question, why Russians think we are just like them? Well, because for the most of our history, that was actually the case.

>>513350939
i recomend this video to you anon, also there were few reports in XVIIIth century from french diplomats regarding appaling state of Polish countryside
https://youtu.be/GON9lT7IoZ4?si=2pXKuBaQMaBBQVcQ

>>513351253
>1993
>in russia
>happy

Pick two

>>513351691
russian government system is that of mongol horde, where there is a single person who is a subject and everyone else is an object, everything belongs to the great khan, that is why russians dont really understand what private property is and dont fight for it, and so easily accepted communism

>>513351556
You got to know; these people get blastered with constant propaganda that Finland has outdoor housing and no bread.
Life feels pretty good when your commie block concrete shithole has a heating and a stove.

>>513351043
>After all, you guys have been fighting for your independence for how long?
123 years from third partition until the end of The Great War. And in between three uprisings against Muscovy (funny, thing, ONLY against them because they really fucking sucked at this whole country managing shit).
>Though with you guys as a template I think Ukraine might do pretty well after this war is over and they’re hopefully closer to Europe.
I mean, the biggest issue that Ukraine faces now is still having the Homo Sovieticus deeply engrained in their populace. If they could go our way after fall of Soviet Union, they would be even stronger state than Poland with all their natural resources. Hell, most issues with Ukrainians being in Poland (I do not deny there are some) stem from the ghost of Lenin still peeking over their shoulders. We can only try to somehow direct the societal change by punishing outliers (like this situation with unironic banderist nationalists on this concert in Warsaw a week ago, 50 people were deported for being aggressive retards), hoping that when monke finally gets a dildo of consequence they can finally develop freely.

Also, one thing that our basement dweller pseudonationalists tend to forget in their spastic rants about "muh bandera" - whole fucking thing started BECAUSE Ukraine wanted to integrate with Europe. I doubt they will drop it the moment Ruskies quit and start trying to attack other countries. Makes no sense, especially taken how much help came from behind the border. We gave them all old Soviet crap we still had and keep our airports and transit routes open for aid to come in and together with a wish to partake in the bounties of united Europe pretty much makes sure they will be our staunt allies for at least few hundred years, and it's about time to be honest.

>>513351926
also they are not polling corpses rotting in the wheat fields or still alive pidors currently LARPing Tom&Jerry with a drone.

>>513351822
Biletsky Presidency
TRVST THE PLAN

>>513351822
Indeed - It's also lovely to see that they want to demilitarize azov and yet get owned by them at every turn

>>513351407
As others have pointed out, this is partly because Russia left feudalism only last century and then fell straight into commie absolutism. They are quite literally white niggers. English peasants or example started challenging feudalism from the 14th century and won important concessions, that eventually provide a pathway out of feudalism

>>513352201
rusniggers are 15th century cavenigger confirmed

the child pornography posted on /pol/ under multiple proxies is done by ukraine supporters
occassionally they have posted child porn on /uhg/ itself

>>513348075 (OP)
TZD

>spotted in Zaporizhzhia front
what the fuck

>>513352441
No more brother wars.

>>513352400
We know it’s you beigenigger.

>>513348075 (OP)
>Summary of the Alaska meeting: Lunch cancelled, post delegation interview cancelled, Trump returns to White House
Goddamn, I mean I knew it was gonna go nowhere ,but I didn't know it went that badly

>>513352441
another russnigger ragebait attempt, who cares

The Dobropillia offensive is officially dead in the waters after less than one week.
How many people died for this?

>>513352400
Azuca, we know it's you.

>>513352545
Not enough, to be honest.

>>513352545
first russians are not people
>How many PIDORS died for this?
too few

>>513348075 (OP)
In the Name of that Saturn-Sol,
Those who bless the Ukrainian men are now blessed,
As those who curse the Ukrainian men are now cursed. Selah.
> Now then, I am the “Loosh”! Amen, so mote it be.

CRAAAWLING IIIN MY SKIIIN

>>513352720
>inb4 orbangutang chimpout.

...Copy-pasting a freebie 17-August-2025 top news & updates from the “Meanwhile in Ukraine” patreon-page:
> www.patreon.com/meanwhileinukraine
> www.buymeacoffee.com/meaninuak
> www.ko-fi.com/meanwhileinua


Ukraine’s Defense & Military Developments (1/2)
>>> President Volodymyr Zelensky emphasized that the Ukrainian Constitution makes it impossible to give up territory or trade land, stressing sovereignty and full restoration of borders as the only negotiation basis.

>>> Zelensky stated that talks with Russia could only begin along the current front line, underscoring Moscow’s failure to capture Donetsk in 12 years and the need for negotiations free of military pressure.

>>> Zelensky signed a decree introducing sanctions against over 200 Russian and Chinese individuals and companies developing drones with artificial intelligence, aiming to weaken Moscow’s drone warfare capability.

>>> President Zelensky awarded the Order of Bohdan Khmelnytskyi II class to Denys “Redis” Prokopenko, commander of the Azov Regiment, honoring his courage and battlefield leadership.

>>> Ukrainian forces liberated six settlements in Donetsk region between August 4 and 16, eliminated 910 Russian soldiers, wounded 335, captured 37, and destroyed significant equipment including tanks, artillery, and over 90 drones.

>>> Ukrainian troops advanced near Dobropillia and Yablunivka in Sumy region, pushing Russian forces back by up to one kilometer and consolidating defensive lines.

Ukraine’s Defense & Military Developments (2/2)
>>> Ukrainian FPV drones of the “Sons of Khors” unit destroyed Russia’s 9S932-1 Barnaul-T air defense automation system, the first confirmed strike on this advanced technology.

>>> Ukrainian FPV drones struck a Russian column on the Rylsk–Khomutovka highway in Kursk region, inflicting heavy losses and severely wounding Lt. Gen. Andrei Abachev, who later underwent arm and leg amputations in Moscow.

>>> Ukrainian drones hit the Lyski railway station in Voronezh region, damaging Russian fuel depots and military cargo.

>>> In Melitopol, Ukrainian intelligence destroyed an ammunition warehouse and eliminated a unit of Russian marines and a UAV crew from the “Akhmad-Vostok” battalion, disrupting reinforcements to the Zaporizhzhia front.

>>> Ukrainian forces destroyed a modern Russian tank worth $4.5 million, considered one of the most advanced in Moscow’s arsenal.

>>> Ukrainian strikes damaged pumping stations of the strategic Druzhba oil pipeline, disrupting energy flows from Russia to Europe.

>>> The General Staff reported Russian losses on August 17 as 900 personnel, 4 tanks, 8 armored vehicles, 49 artillery systems, 1 MLRS, 1 air defense system, and 186 drones.

>>513352562
when have i used proxies, sausage fingers

Is Ze going to act like clown again?

>>>513352849 (cont'd)
Russia & the Warfront
>>> Russia launched an overnight attack with one Iskander-M missile and 60 Shahed drones. Ukrainian defenses intercepted 40, but strikes killed a 17-year-old boy and injured six civilians in Zaporizhzhia region.

>>> Explosions caused fires near Shcherbinka railway station in Moscow region, suspending rail traffic and disrupting Russian logistics.

>>> The partisan movement “ATESH” reported disabling a railway relay cabinet in occupied territory used by Russian troop trains, causing disruptions in the transport of fuel and ammunition to the frontline and highlighting the growing vulnerability of Russia’s military logistics.

>>> The Times reported that Russia is deploying small assault groups and combining drone and artillery strikes to achieve limited battlefield successes.

>>513352720
based

>>513352400
>done by ukraine supporters
Yeah, because Ukraine supporters would work overtime to try and get these threads deleted, right?
Not the smartest black hole in Sweden, are you?

>>513352855
You just posted scat, CP and animal abuse, that's totally different, haitiANO.

>>513352720
Sharto big mad kek

>>>513352902 (cont'd)
United States
>>> President Donald Trump said the war in Ukraine “will end sooner than everyone thinks,” but warned it may not happen in the way allies expect, alarming Kyiv and European capitals.

>>> Trump claimed “big progress on Russia” after his Alaska meeting with Putin, dismissing criticism as “Fake News” and calling the war “Biden’s stupid war.”

>>> Trump will first hold a private meeting with Zelensky in Washington, with European leaders joining later for a working dinner, according to Bild.

>>> Axios reported Trump is considering a trilateral summit with Ukraine and Russia as early as August 22.

>>> Trump reposted a message that Ukraine must cede territory or risk losing more land, further raising concerns about his position.

>>> U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio declared the United States will never support handing Donbas to Russia as part of a peace deal.

>>> Rubio stressed that Ukraine has the right to secure international security guarantees with partners, reaffirming Washington’s backing.

>>> Rubio noted sanctions are hitting Russia so hard that Putin’s plane had to be refueled with cash, symbolizing Moscow’s financial crisis.

>>> U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham suggested Trump consider a China-mediated scenario to pressure Russia into peace.

>>> U.S. envoy Steve Witkoff told CNN that Trump and Putin discussed robust guarantees for Ukraine, potentially similar to NATO’s Article 5.

TZD btw

>>>513352957 (cont'd)
Europe & World
>>> European leaders including Chancellor Friedrich Merz, Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, President Emmanuel Macron, President Alexander Stubb, and Commission President Ursula von der Leyen will travel to Washington with Zelensky on August 18.

>>> European allies aim to prevent territorial concessions and ensure Ukraine’s voice is central at the summit, sending their strongest negotiators, according to Politico.

>>> Ursula von der Leyen confirmed the EU will adopt its 19th sanctions package against Russia on August 22, targeting banks, energy imports, and dual-use goods.

>>> European leaders issued a joint declaration on readiness to deploy forces in Ukraine once NATO and EU-level decisions are made, signaling growing involvement.

>>> Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski said international pressure must target Russia, not Ukraine, affirming Europe’s united stance on sovereignty.

>>> France strongly opposed Ukraine’s demilitarization, with Minister Benjamin Haddad calling it unacceptable and Macron stating Russia only offers capitulation, not peace.

>>> Macron warned that showing weakness before Moscow will plant the seeds of future wars and described the current situation as “extremely serious.”

>>> The Financial Times urged Zelensky and European leaders to strengthen their case to Trump in Washington, while the BBC suggested the “Coalition of the Willing” may soon shift its stance on a ceasefire.

>>513352915
theres a pro-ukrainian poster itt with philippines proxy generating new id's with every post just like the child pornography posts
thats clearly one of the child porn posters and it's a ukraine supporter

>>>513353005 (last one)
Geopolitics & Economy
>>> Reuters revealed Putin’s demands for ending the war: Ukraine must withdraw from Donetsk and Luhansk, recognize Crimea as Russian, accept NATO exclusion and neutrality, grant official status to the Russian language and protect the Orthodox Church. Russia would retain its current positions in Kherson and Zaporizhzhia while returning parts of Sumy and Kharkiv.

>>> Russian negotiator Kirill Dmitriev said Europeans and Brits should not interfere in peace talks, signaling Moscow wants to negotiate directly with Washington.

>>> The Washington Post reported that Trump is adopting Putin’s framing of the war, which risks undermining Ukraine’s position.

>>> Fox News reported Trump privately supported Putin’s demand for full Russian control of Donbas as part of compromise talks.

>>> The Telegraph wrote that Putin told Trump Ukrainian defenses in Donbas were collapsing, portraying Russia as close to breakthrough.

>>> The Wall Street Journal outlined two possible endgames: either a peace deal with territorial concessions or prolonged escalation dragging the war for years.

>>> The Times concluded that Putin currently holds leverage after Alaska, but Trump still has the ability to counter Moscow.

Society & Policy in Ukraine
>>> Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Svyrydenko confirmed that sanctions will apply to over 200 Russian companies and individuals, including defense sector businesses.

>>> Ukrainian military successes and liberation of settlements boosted national morale, reinforcing domestic unity.

>>> Zelensky highlighted that Kyiv expects Washington talks to yield concrete security guarantees, modern weapons, and air defense systems.

>>> The General Staff urged society to remain united and resilient against Russian disinformation as critical negotiations approach.

Yes, you really aren't the sharpest tool around, Beige.

>>513353053
fucking Zanitors keep van'ing me for no good reason, so eh.

Plus, I actually live here you unironic nigger.

>>513352935
theres a pro-ukrainian poster itt with philippines proxy generating new id's with every post just like the child pornography posts
thats clearly one of the child porn posters and it's a ukraine supporter

>>513352441
Cargo cult as is.

Total Hohol Death is coming.

>>>513352720
>>>513352441
what the zhit LMAO


>>>513351253
That is unironically, fake and gay


>>>513353291
>>>513353230
Get a room, faggots

>>513353166
haitiANO, have you taken a shower today?

>>513348927
And Putler is the new Hitler (at least according to the globohomo press):
both Hitler and Putler didn't start the war but we're forced to escalate due to the unbearable conditions

The breakthrough... whatever happened there

>>513353334
His power words are haitiANO and Azuca.

He's a former /int/ lolcow, into scat, CP and animal abuse. Considers himself "beige", apparently earns through "dropshipping", takes it up the ass for drug money. Now you know, pinoy-bro.

>>513353459
>pinoy-bro
you mean cp-bro, ukropedo

>>513353567
That argie gave a full rundown on you, nigger. You were flailing like crazy.

>>513353632
>posting ai face swaps
uh oh, war refugee bitch is getting mad

>>>513353459

Most mentally-ill award, kekarooo

>>513353729
He routinely spams /uhg/ whenever he gets melty, but this year he was kind of absent for the most of it. Seems like he's getting an acute episode as the autumn is getting near.

>>513353830
Brown people don't handle that there's less and less sun as the year progresses.
Some years ago, up north some Somali woman took her daughter and walked into the sea during the winter dark period.

>>513349076
>This is some Zap Brannigan tier shit. The only tactic they seem to have is wave after wave of their own men. How broken do you have to be to sign up for that?
A hint for you, it's propaganda numbers inflated sky high. Both Russia and Ukraine claims to recruit 20k-30k soldiers every month, yet it's the Russian army that is growing while the Ukranian is having critical manpower issues. Where did all these Ukranian soldiers go?

>>513348075 (OP)
TZD

>>513353902
Yeah, so I noticed. Brownies really struggle in the North.

Russian army totally destroyed sapsan missile program

>>513350057
Yes, it sacrifices speed and size constraints, but it is a much easier to implement design

>>513353981
Up past the polar circle, all bets are off.

>>513353830
imagine being not only a male war refugee but also doing an unpaid internship in your 30s while married and posting ai face swaps on 4chan on a monday afternoon while your dumb wife is wageslaving

>>513353902
Haha, at least stupid niggers parasiting my country will be depressed soon.

>>>513353830
Yeah, I'm saving this pic kek

>>513353942
>>513348148
>>513348193
I made a thread here where we try to figure out why Finland (5 million population) is allowed to sit with the big boys

>>513354048
Forgot link kek
>>513353765
>>513353765

>>513353912
>Russian army is growing.
Gonna need proof for that.

>>513353567
Bend over whore

>>513353981
you struggled in your own homeland and had to flee to finland, refugee bitch

Uh-oh, stinky melty.

>Germ
>"I MAEK THREAD!"
Good on you, nobody gives a shit about this attempt either.

coping trannies chugging cum of seething zigger retards

>>513354048
France and Germany are there because of their economic power.
Finland is there because it has an 830-mile border with Russia and a century of institutional experience in killing Russian soldiers.
In this specific conversation, that expertise makes them a very big boy.

>>513354248
Didn't you recall the wonderful Alaska meeting ?
Trump has aknowledged russian position.

Trump will sanction ukraine soon if no donbass liberated

>>513349138
>whole jewkraine is shaking in bunkers when carriers of these glowing beauties are in air
>and they are not even in top 10 most powerful Russian weapons
Hope eurofags escalate soon. We need to see a proper genocide of hohols

>>513354257
>because of their economic power

France is on the verge of bankruptcy.

>>513354135
>if i stop replying directly maybe i wont keep getting mean replies
bullied refugee bitch

sure is brown in here

>>513354390
Every western country(excluding some natres cunts like Norway) is on verge of bankrupty. Shit does not matter until it actually happens.

>>513354390
France has an AA- credit rating. It has economic challenges, but it is a large, diversified, and stable economy.
Russia, a country suffering a demographic collapse so severe its birthrate is the lowest in over 200 years, has officially classified its own population data to hide the scale of the catastrophe.
One of these countries is on the verge of bankruptcy. It is not France.

>>513354048
>>513354257
I am sorry for this specimen.
Every german with a brain knows fins are giga chad slayers of ziggers and very redpilled.
our politicians should have listened to you and lit-bro's but we are ruled by idiots.
>much sorry my man

Stinky Zubhuman Alert~


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> Stinky Zubhuman Alert~

>>513354398
Oh, you want me to piss on your, Azuca? Okay.

>>513354475
is that Shrek ?

>>513354470
your home country of jewkraine defaulted, refugee beggar

>>513354514
shreka raspidorasilo na svo (((

>>>513354451
Is this new..?


>>>513354475
Zigga looks ridiculous here, lmao

>>513354048
stubb is best friends with donald and his prime european tard wrangler

>>513354082
>Constantly been applying pressure for years
>Expanding front
>Achieving progress
Never mind, I guess that means it's ACHSUALLY shrinking. Ukraine must have twice as many soldiers as the Russians by now. If only drumpler didn't force then to fight with their hands tied behind their backs

>>513354551
A country that is invaded and receives aid from the world's wealthiest nations to defend itself is a partner.
A country that claims to be a superpower, invades its neighbor, and is forced to beg for artillery shells from North Korea is a beggar.
A country that defaults on its foreign debt is in crisis. A country that defaults on the lives of over a million of its own men to gain a few ruined villages has failed completely.
Your insults are a perfect description of the state you defend.

>>513354690
>Achieving progress
Would you call german advances against france during the first world war as progress? Because germans actually achieved more than russians have

>>513354706
>buying ammo from north korea is the same as begging for free ammo like ukraine does

>>513354475
I can't believe the real Azuca died on smo, and we now have his ghost still throwing melties itt

>>513354848
You are correct. They are not the same.
Receiving advanced weaponry from the world's most powerful industrial economies is a sign of strategic partnership.
A nation claiming to be a military superpower having to buy defective 50-year-old artillery shells from a bankrupt hermit kingdom is a sign of catastrophic industrial failure.
It is not a choice. It is an act of desperation by a state that has burned through its stockpiles and whose own military-industrial complex has collapsed.

>>513349727
3000km range btw

>>>513354991
>>>513349727

It's time to bomb Moscow again.

>>513354968
>russia's military-industrial complex has collapsed
lmao

>>513354027
Imagine being beige lmao

Daily reminder that while westerners deal with an ever-declining QoL, Russians are as happy as they've ever been.

>Trump rules out Ukraine joining Nato.

It's over

>>513355107
imagine being a soviet rapebaby

>>513349076
1500 euros is life changing money for most r*ssians and well worth risking their worthless lives for
this is the level of poverty ziggers and thirdie cheerleaders want everyone to live in

>>513349076
>This is some Zap Brannigan tier shit. The only tactic they seem to have is wave after wave of their own men. How broken do you have to be to sign up for that?

>>513355072
You're right to laugh. Let's review the evidence of this functional military-industrial complex.
Aviation: Sanctions have forced Russia into systemic "cannibalization," stripping its own civilian airliners for spare parts just to keep a fraction of the fleet flying.The domestic production program is a failure, with zero new Superjets or MC-21s delivered.
Oil Refining: As of this month, Ukrainian drone strikes have crippled up to 17% of Russia's refining capacity. Major facilities like the Ryazan and Novokuibyshevsk refineries are offline, forcing Russia to export cheap crude instead of valuable refined products and causing domestic fuel prices to surge 30%.
Armor: Having lost thousands of modern tanks, Russia is pulling 70-year-old T-54/55 tanks from Cold War storage. Its production capacity for new armor is estimated at only 100-150 units per year, a catastrophic failure. By 2026, the stockpile of restorable vehicles will be completely exhausted.
Finance: Three of China's four largest state banks, including the Bank of China, have halted or severely restricted transactions with Russian entities to avoid US secondary sanctions. An estimated 98% of yuan-denominated transactions from Russia are now being rejected.
This is not a functioning MIC. It is a cascading, systemic organ failure. But please, keep laughing. It's good optics.

>>513348209
Should have used his brain while it was still in his skull

>>513351253
congrats, good fishin' today.

>>513349076
Russia has confirmed necromancers to bring people back from the death.

>>513355361
chatbot please, russia produces hypersonic weapons
not a single western country produces hypersonic weapons

>>513355571
Didn't some pidor politician or pastor or whatever actually say something along the line of "One day we will have technology to resurrect the death, so all those deaths aren't that bad "? I remember seeing something like this about a month ago.

>>513355756
Correct. Russia produces a "hypersonic weapon."
It is an Iskander ballistic missile strapped to an aging MiG. It costs millions of dollars per unit. It gets shot down by the American Patriot system, a technology from the 1980s.
This is not a sign of technological superiority. It is the signature of a state burning its budget to produce expensive garbage that does not work, while its ground army is issued 70-year-old tanks and North Korean ammunition.

>>513355756
>muh hypersonic waffles cope
löl

>muh hyperpoopersonic wepunz!!!
>that get ACKed by a 50-years old burger AD system
The Somali monkey is running short on his cope I see

>>513355109
Sorry bro I've already posted this bait: >>513351253

pigger sissies?

>>513355982
kek

>>513356014
You're still late to the party.
>>513325555

>>513356014
>>513356144
And also, it's not even bait. It's true that Russians thank their lucky stars every day they were born where they were. The Internet has put a spotlight on the horrors of western life, and shown them that the grass isn't, in fact, always greener.

hey guys, can anyone help me identify which one of these two missiles is a 20 year old basic bitch short range ballistic missile, and which one is a super advanced hypersonic wunderwaffe 50 years ahead of anything westoids can produce?

>>513355496
Thank you my friend.
>>513356144
Private fishing hole buddy, move along.

>>513356205
>the horrors of western life

>>513354475
dios mio...

>Ukraine inherited ~1,900 strategic nuclear warheads and delivery systems (ICBMs, bombers) when the USSR collapsed in 1991. That made it the third-largest nuclear power in the world.

>Ukraine was reluctant to give them up. Ukraine saw the arsenal as both a bargaining chip for recognition/aid and a potential security guarantee against Russia.

>U.S. position was uncompromising: Washington demanded complete denuclearization of Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan. The U.S. would not recognize Ukraine as a legitimate nuclear weapons state, nor allow it to retain even partial control.

Ron Paul would call this "mutual destruction"

>>513356250
>>the horrors of western life
Yes

>>513355890
>It is an Iskander ballistic missile strapped to an aging MiG
ballistic missiles arent launched from planes, chatbot

>>513355955
>russian weapons are shit
then why are so many non-russian ethnicities in russia, including yours, ruled by moscow

>>513356490
they can be, retard.
do you know what 'ballistic' means?

>>513356490
Alright, beige, listen up and listen good. You're going to learn something today.
The Kh-47M2 Kinzhal is an Air-Launched Ballistic Missile. That is its literal, technical designation. The United States was developing these, like the AGM-48 Skybolt, in the 1960s. This is not new technology; you are just profoundly ignorant.
Your semantic quibble is a pathetic attempt to distract from the core fact: your multi-million dollar "invincible" weapon, a ballistic missile strapped to a jet, is consistently shot down by a 40-year-old American air defense system.
The only failed piece of automated technology here is the guidance system on your Wunderwaffe. Now drop and give me twenty. You've embarrassed yourself enough for one day, Azuca.

>>513356423
>I may have AIDS and live in poverty ridden commie blockhouse, but in the west they have REFUGEE NIGGERS and HOMOS

>>513356673
Here's the kicker, he has both refugees and homos, only worse and in bigger quantities.

>>513356673
>but in the west they have REFUGEE NIGGERS and HOMOS
Yes, so perhaps you now understand why Russians are so defensive and protective. They've seen what's happened to us and Western Europe, and they don't want that shit anywhere near their country.

>>513349076
>How broken do you have to be to sign up for that?
Have you watched Squid Game? Your answer lies there

>>>513356625
>>>513356588

Fuckin BODIED that freak nigger

>>513356753
Why isn't that russian standing up for himself?

I don't support giving aid to Ukraine but I also wouldn't have supported taking away Ukrainian nukes in the 94. I'm just a principled libertarian

>>513356753
You do not understand. At all.
You are shilling for a multiracial empire that is flooding its cities with Central Asian migrants to replace the white men it sends to die.
You are shilling for a state that uses Chechen Muslim battalions and Buryat Mongols as shock troops to slaughter white Slavs in Ukraine.
You are shilling for a regime whose birthrate has collapsed so completely that it is now begging for millions of laborers from India to keep its economy from imploding.
Russia is not "protecting" itself from what happened to the West. It is actively and deliberately pursuing the exact same policies of demographic replacement, but funding it with the blood of its own Slavic population. It is the greatest enemy of European ethnogenesis on the planet.
You are not a nationalist. You are a useful idiot for a ZOG regime in Moscow.

>>>513356625
>>>513356588

Fuckin BODIED that freak nigger

US interventionist foreign policy backfired by disarming Ukraine via the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, leaving it vulnerable to Russia's 2022 invasion despite security pledges. Non-interventionist principles (Jefferson, Ron Paul) would likely have avoided such pressure, allowing Ukraine to retain nukes as a deterrent, averting war through mutual assured destruction. This exemplifies interventionist blowback vs. principles of non-interventionism.

>>513356865
lol, my p**xy is fucking with me again here

>>513356625
>consistently shot down by a 40-year-old American air defense system
i can tell by all that footage of kiev burning

>>513356490
google AGM-69A shitskin

So Zelensky isn't going to pull out from any oblasts
Russia demands entirety of the frontline oblasts
Is this peace deal fucked already?

>>513356952
The nukes on Ukrainian soil were never Ukraine's to keep.
The command, control, and launch codes remained in Moscow. They were Soviet assets on Ukrainian territory, not a Ukrainian arsenal.
Your "non-interventionist" fantasy where Ukraine tries to seize control of Moscow's nuclear weapons doesn't avert war. It guarantees a Russian invasion in 1992 to secure the arsenal, which would have been even more catastrophic.
The problem isn't the piece of paper signed in 1994. The problem is the gangster state that violated its own signature to invade a country it swore to protect.

>>513356753
>NOOOO BROOOO THE CHURKAS ARE PATRIOTIC RUSSIANS AND THEY RAPE YOU ONLY IF YOU TALK SHIT ABOUT ISLAM, JUST BE PRO-ISLAM AND YOU WON'T BE HOMORAPED BROOOO

>>513357062

Can't Ukraine just... cannibalize those nukes for their own use?

>>513357013
You're looking at a burning apartment building and you think you've scored a point. That's adorable, beige.
Let me explain this to you slowly, since you're clearly struggling. This is called 'cost-benefit analysis'.
Russia spends hundreds of millions of dollars on missiles to terrorize civilians. A few get through. That is the cost of war.
Ukraine spends a few thousand dollars on drones that fly 800km and set fire to your strategic oil refineries, crippling your economy and your ability to fuel your army.
You are focused on a burning apartment block. We are focused on your burning war machine. One of these things ends the war. It is not the apartment block. Do you understand now, or do I need to use smaller words?

>>513357020
beige is not a shitskin color, gyppo

>>513357148
Looks beige to me

>>513357142
>launching several american patriot missiles to intercept one single russian ballistic missile is cheap

Can i bake next bread..?


I'll remove my trip

>>513357235
>He thinks they need to launch several missiles from any modern AD like Patriot/NASAMS/IRIS SAMP-T

Retarded nigger, all of those AD's have over 90-95% interception rates.

>>513356865
>>513356800
dunno why he even tries to assert something so easily proven false.

>>513357055
ehhhh, probably. but I think there's a chance russia is actually looking for an off-ramp because their economy is about to crack and that's why they agree to peace negotiations. whatever they want, they'll start with unreasonable demands.

>>513357314
>all of those AD's have over 90-95% interception rates
yeah we saw that in israel against iran, baltic chihuahua

>>513357131
>Can't Ukraine just... cannibalize those nukes for their own use?
They do not exist anymore.

>>513357365
> February 2025, the Norwegian Armed Forces announced that NASAMS had shot down 900 missiles and drones over Ukraine, with a hit rate of 94%. Of the approximately 900 air threats that NASAMS has neutralized since November 2022, almost 60% were cruise missiles, such as the Kh-101, Kh-555, Kalibr, Iskander-K, Kh-59, and Kh-69.


Lmao nigger

>>513357235
You see fires, private. You don't see the balance sheet. Pay attention.
The footage you're seeing is from cheap Iranian Shaheds and old subsonic cruise missiles. Their job is to cause terror and overwhelm defenses. That's attrition warfare.
The Kinzhal is different. It's a multi-million dollar "invincible" weapon designed to take out hardened, high-value military targets. That's its only job.
Every time Russia uses its most expensive, advanced weapon to hit an apartment block instead of a command bunker, it is a catastrophic failure. They are using a Formula 1 car to deliver a pizza because their delivery scooters keep getting destroyed.
You see a fire and you cheer. A strategist sees a bankrupt military burning its last rubles on a failed PR stunt. You are not a strategist, beige.

>>513357062
The codes point is cope. Nukes aren’t magic buttons in Moscow, they’re physical arsenals, warheads, missiles, delivery systems. If Ukraine hadn’t been strong-armed into surrendering them under U.S. pressure, it could’ve maintained deterrence just like India, Pakistan, or North Korea did. Funny how none of them got invaded. Interventionism forced Ukraine to trade real leverage for worthless paper guarantees, and the result was predictable: war. That’s blowback 101.

>>513357303
i mean, no one else is baking, so go ahead.

>>513357414
>Norwegian Armed Forces
their entire military is like one brigade

>>513357462
Let's review the operational checklist for "maintaining deterrence," shall we?
Warhead Maintenance: The Soviet-era warheads required a vast, specialized industrial complex for upkeep, particularly for replenishing tritium. Ukraine lacked this requisite infrastructure in 1994 and had no capacity to build it. Without maintenance, the warheads become unreliable, decaying radiological hazards.
Command & Control: The Permissive Action Links (PALs) and launch codes were not "cope." They were an integrated, Moscow-controlled system. Bypassing them would have required a multi-year, multi-billion dollar reverse-engineering project, assuming it was even possible without rendering the warheads inert.
Delivery Systems: The ICBMs on Ukrainian soil were aimed at the United States. Reprogramming them to target Russia was not a trivial matter. They were not a functional deterrent against the state that built and controlled them.
Your comparison to India and Pakistan is invalid. They built their arsenals indigenously over decades. Your "non-interventionist" scenario involves a newly independent, economically shattered state attempting to seize control of a foreign nuclear arsenal, which would have made it an international pariah state, sanctioned into oblivion by the entire world.
The choice was not between "nukes" and "no nukes." It was between becoming a functional state or an isolated pariah with a stockpile of decaying, unusable Soviet scrap. The file on this matter was closed in 1994 for these reasons. Your memo is noted.

>>513357491
Oops, almost done here...

>>513357348
>off-ramp
I guess shalomoid is very convinced that trump is gonna save them no matter what, because they just murdered a lot of people this morning, again

>>513357556
Not an argument and you're a literal nigger.

>>513357491
>posting in a proxy child porn posters thread
ukraine supporters everyone

>>513357601
youre a soviet rapebaby

>>513357628
Silence, Azuca, take a shower.

>>513357567
the worst is that he's likely right. in all communication trump talks about concessions made because RU's supposed strength. so this probably increases the chance trump's gonna save them.
it's quite honestly pathetic. trump has no problem throwing the US' weight around to bully its allies, but cowers when it comes to dealing with RU. US is much stronger than RU, all trump has to do is assert that instead of treating RU as equal.

>>513357690
Even your arguments are shit just like your skin color, nigger.

>>513357567
trump certainly isnt going to save you beggars

>>513357729
not as shit as your references
>norgay armed forces
silly baltic chihuahua

>>513357749
14:1.

>>513357802
>the military that is outgunned has a superior k/d ratio
ok sausage fingers

>>513357787
Yeah only expertise we should trust is third world niggers living in West like you, lmao.

>>513357729
At least beige nigger acknowledges the fact that russians are rapists

>>513357848
You're focused on fingers.
Lieutenant General Esedulla Abachev, deputy commander of Russia's 'Sever' group, just suffered the traumatic amputation of both his legs and an arm in a strike in Kursk.
This is how an outgunned military achieves a 14:1 kill ratio. Not by trading rifle fire, but by using superior intelligence to systematically dismember the enemy's command structure.
One side is dealing with name-calling on the internet. The other is dealing with its generals being returned home in pieces. The asymmetry is the entire point.

>>513349727
This twisted game needs to be reset

GO GO GO

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>>513358032

>>513354777
>Because germans actually achieved more than russians have
Ahh yes the conditions are exactly the same, the world hasn't changed in the past 80 years after all. My grandpa had to run from FPV drones all the time when he volunteered for operation Barbarossa

>>513358534
Yeah, we don't use chemical weapons that much anymore