Thread 513352940

>Putin wants the top left
>Trump offering bottom left
>Zelensky still wants Crimea
How will this end?

More war until mutts fuck off

>>513352940 (OP)
>How will this end?

>>513352940 (OP)
Russia will get the 4 regions /k/ trannies will kill themselves.

>>513353172
big if true

end?

Heavenly Israel

>>513352940 (OP)
Europe stepping in to put a stop to this shit.
What remains of Ukraine becomes EU/NATO.

>>513353285
Ok, so war continues

>>513352940 (OP)
>>Putin wants the top left
Lines barely changed in 3 years in the top right figure
>you are a dumb nigger OP

>>513353285
Russia has said they will not accept that, retard
Why do you even care?

>>513352940 (OP)
russia taking what they got so far and ukraine getting military security from nato is fair deal
anything more requires concession or retarded negotiator on the other side

>>513352940 (OP)
>schizophrenic map
What is Dnieper river.

>>513353427
You don't know about anything that has happened. Russia isn't going to allow an aggressive enemy buildup their forces in Ukraine. Theyre not going to let them recover.

>>513353525
keep on truckinng then

>>513353525
Chances are high that Britain and France (as well as whoever else in Europe) will be patrolling the border after the war.

>>513352940 (OP)
It's not gonna end anytime soon

>>513353624
>patrolling
>after
They will be fighting it soon

>>513353618
This, Russian chads will keep on droning trucks filled with pigs. Why do Ukrainians use their own men as meatshields for cheap pickup trucks?

>>513353624
Chances of that happening and not getting targetted by Russians are close to zero

>>513352940 (OP)
Pootin knows he won't ever get top left, he just wants to negotiate for top right

>>513352940 (OP)
Actually Trump says top right

>>513352940 (OP)
Probably a temporary peace with top right borders that'll last a few years. But Russia wants to eventually have everything, so they won't allow any security guarantees like NATO troops for the remaining parts of Ukraine. If there are troops, they'll see it as a provocation and attack again. If there aren't, then the land is free for the taking so they'll attack again.

>>513352940 (OP)
Somebody will push the unfunny Jewish Comedian down a flight of stairs, and the concerns he represents will be shut out of the discussion, by reason of being dead from a broken neck.

>>513353189
It's more likely some non-white shilling for Russia.
This place is full of them.

>>513352940 (OP)
Top right is the reasonable turnout for Russia at this point

>>513352940 (OP)
This looks retarded. Feels like someone trying to set expectations and run damage control ahead of the peace agreement.

For starters, at no fucking point has Russia ever declared their goals in this war to be the annexation of half of (or even the whole of) Ukraine. They've repeatedly stated and demanded only the annexation of the currently occupied territories, the recognition of Crimea as Russian, and Ukraine being frozen out of NATO/security agreements.

THAT should be considered their actual victory condition, not retarded made up bullshit like half of ukraine (or more) annexed.

>>513353172
They dgaf cause they still identify as winners.

>>513352940 (OP)
Istambul in two (2) weeks

>>513353172
>trannies
Shut the fuck up Nazi. Bullet to the head for you and no looking back.

>>513353691
Don't worry. The EU and the formation of Nato and the ECHR and the wef are all to ensure that Europe never faces war again.

>>513352940 (OP)
Trump's offering top right though.
Zelensky's will's relevance dwindles by the minute.

>>513353427
>>513353618
I find it funny whenever slavicniggers say american terms like these. Do you say this in your mind in a tryhard fake american accent or your own slavicbabble accent? Idk I just imagine Niko Bellic from GTA 4 saying this in my mind lol

>>513352940 (OP)
So they will likely split the difference between the top 2. How much extra Putin gets depends on the remaining military strength of both sides. How much man power Ukraine has left to conscript I guess.

>>513353427
Russia isnt going to allow ukraine into NATO lmao

>>513354286
Russia won, you lost. KYS tranny

It will never end, death comes

>>513354194
nafo troons are running new script where they win by losing

>>513353413
So what? Ukraine can just lie and say they won't join EU/NATO and then do so anyways, just like Russia lied when they said they wouldn't invade Ukraine if they gave up their nukes

>>513353237
Kys

>>513353413
Because I'm French, European, a somehow normal decent person, and I want Putin dead.

>>513353803
>cheap pickup trucks
not as cheap as your mom

>>513353189
>everyone who doesn't defend until the last hohol is a russian bot!

>>513354943
ferme ta gueule putain de traitre

>>513353285
>Europe being relevant
lol lmao kek jaja huehue kkk

>>513352940 (OP)
Trump will unironically order another B2 bombing strike on whoever stands in the way of him getting the nobel peace prize.

>>513353064
2 more weeks.

>>513353285
>Ukraine becomes EU/NATO
hwat fer?
it's literally shittiest place in europe after russia itself, ridden with corruption, CP and AIDS

Every day President Trump reduces the chances of America getting entangled in the European shit show.
Before President Trump's inauguration, Americans were rightfully concerned that we were drawing close to a hot war with Russia.
We didnot even know who was making the decisions. Joe Biden was certainly not in charge. Kamala Harris was not calling the shots.
I do notcare what any no guns Euro faggot from Germany, England or France thinks.
George Washington warned future Americans about entangling alliances. The costs of these European "alliances" are not worth any small benefit America might accrue.
All of these Euro faggots immediately start squealing like a French whore as soon as Americans question where our money is going.
Fuck all of these no guns Euro faggots and their alliance.
The globalists want to grind Russia down with constant conflict. Now that Ukraine is spent they want to spend America's youth and treasure against Russia. The European politicians and EU bureaucrats are controlled by anti American globalists. These globalist controlled politicians and bureaucrats used lies and deceit in attempts to lure America into a war with Russia the American people did not want. America is better off distancing itself from those that try to draw us into war. America is better off without these "allies".

>>513352940 (OP)
this

>>513352940 (OP)
The goal of this war is not land, but to kill hohols as much as possible and assimilate the rest, i.e. those who denounce to be hohols and choose to be glorious Russians. That's ideally.

>>513352940 (OP)
new vamce memes

NATO lost.

>>513352940 (OP)
this is just bullshit, everyone know where it is going: when the dust settle EU pays for the shithole west of the river, russia pays for the east of the river wasteland. America and China take the money.

>>513352940 (OP)
It ends with more dead goys, naturally.

>>513352940 (OP)
We brainwash Russians to try to overthrow their government to start a huge bloodshed until the last muskovite and hoholite is gone then we replace them all with cute East Asian women then we use their nuclear arsenal to nuke Africa and Mecca

>>513358436
the problem now actually is no one wants too much of Ukraine. If the west makes Russia to take donbass by fighting there it will be just clear giving up of the half of Ukraine since the army wouldn't stop there obviously. But economicaly and politically the more Ukraine the more problems

>>513352940 (OP)
I only know that in the meantime our retarded European "leaders" will keep parroting the "a just and lasting peace" line as if it ever did shit.

>>513353172
/k/ is just infested by Ukrainians and libs that were laughed out of /pol/

>>513355826
Angry toon spotted
You lost

>>513353189
stfu

>>513353427
dude how can you post this?
if that was agreed upon it would be brought up while they were talking side by side.
this is some pathetic shit.

and check the fucking news.
trump already made a statement ahead of zelenisky going to white house.
>'No going into Nato by Ukraine,' says Trump as Zelensky prepares for White House talks
>Donald Trump has said the Ukrainian president can end Russia's war "if he wants to", but there will be "no going into Nato by Ukraine" as part of a peace deal.
>https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm21j1ve817o
before you zerg out caliing BBC some cumrag, the same article is shared by a plethora of news outlets. take your pick among the litter.

and zelenisky will be forced to wear a suit during the white house trip. it is the final nail on the dude. it will be his public humiliation. his image will be shattered forever once he wears his suit.

you are oblivious and spewing bullshit.

>>513360870
nothing you said refutes my claims churka
i was saying what would be a fair deal
and i doubt anything will come out of those talks anyway as it would require trump assuming the role of a retard

>>513353427
>>513360870
the only thing that matters for UA right now is Mykolaiv and Odessa.
if they can keep those 2, they can count themselves lucky since they wont be a rump state and will have access to the sea.
the rest is nothing but wishful thinking at this point.
>>513361083
fair?
that is subjective.
we are not living in a fair world.

and putin and trump greased themselves up and down during the press conference that lasted 12 minutes.
compare that to the last visit of zelenisky to the white house and also compare that to the meeting they will have in a day or two.

>>513360870
Fuck off troon shill
Trump straight up said it will be up to the EU to do a security deal, not NATO.

eat shit disinfo retard

>>513361083
not to mention,
trump is already a retard.
he does not need to assume a fucking role.
his bimbo wife was pimped to him by none other than epstein himself. and epstein fucked her before trump. and declared that they first had sex on his private plane. they are all retards. the so called left and the so called right

he is an actor that participated in the WWF for fucks sake.
that is neither here nor there for this war.
russia will not allow ukraine to join nato. to think otherwise is moronic.

>>513355986
EU/UK need to put boots on the ground, provide air support and long-range weaponry if they don't like the deal that Trump is able to negotiate.

I'd love to see the US unleash Hell on Putin, but Trump/Vance don't want anything to do with this anymore. Cleaning up Obama/Biden/EU's mess.

Stop being pussies, EU/UK, and clean up your continent. The US can still supply some key support under the table, but nut up and act like men, for once.

They'll probably decide not to do anything after meeting with Greta and deciding that escalating the conflict would be too harmful to the environment.

>>513361734
>that is subjective.
but the fact giving russia territory without any assurances for ukraine will solve nothing in the long run isnt subjective so only retard or saboteur would accept it
>compare that
what exactly?
what is the outcome of alaksa summit?

>>513352940 (OP)
For Russia everything except the top left is defeat

>>513361950
dude tell that to the polark then.
fucking lol.
who fucking cares about a EU security deal? seriously who gives a fuck?
nato is the subject here and what we are talking about.

>>513362179
EU/UK need to prove that NATO is more than just the USA.

>>513362006
kek thats true but only reason for trump to accept putin's deal is to make it look like he is controlled by russians and not jews
otherwise he's risking nothing by telling russians to go fuck themselves so he could look more alpha
>ussia will not allow ukraine to join nato. to think otherwise is moronic.
as moronic as giving russia land without any guarantees

>>513352940 (OP)
It ends in 2 months when the Russian army takes Kiev and installs a puppet regime.

>>513362071
yes compare the alaska summit to the time when zelenisky was publicly berated in the white house by trump and vance.
it had filled the entire catalog for crying out loud.

granted that public humiliation was irrelevant up until this point. since zelenisky still got arms, gibs and intelligence to continue fighting until now. up until the alaska summit, that public stunt almost felt like a bone thrown at trumps base. that is not the case anymore.

>>513362546
so what exactly came out of alask summit?
what is the agreement?
what is the peace deal?
what moved forward?

>>513362221
nobody needs to prove shit.
getting other people to fight your war is the most disgusting thing since time immemorial.

the same shit has been happening since forever. and it is always disgusting.
check the newspaper articles from a century ago.
the same fucking headlines are printed over and over.
the shit senators like lindsay graham are saying were said VERBATIM by other senators a century ago.

>>513354420
I find it funny when memeflagniggers have anything to say about any other flag

>>513362703
Turkey and the USA can stay out of it. Let the Europeans clean up the mess on their own continent. They built up Putin's war machine by buying his cheap oil & gas for a decade+ while he took Georgia, then Crimea, now his SMO. The entire time, they just sat there wringing their hands.

>>513353010
fpbp

>>513362663
what came out?
>no ceasefire secured
>putin gains more leverage
>trumps "severe consequences" if a there is no ceasefire fell flat and he looked like a chump.
>ukraines territorial sovereignty was not brought up or mentioned for a single second


the only thing to expect at this point is the total stopping of arms and money flowing into ukraine for them to continiue fighting.
and all they can wish for once that happens is that they keep Mykolaiv and Odessa.
getting their old country back and to also get Crimea back is a pipe dream at this point.

not that i have much love for putin by the way. but it is what it is.

>>513362895
>took Georgia
Last I checked thier shithole is still an EU puppet
Retard

>>513362006
>his bimbo wife was pimped to him by none other than epstein himself
Proven to be a lie that they pay tranny faggots like you to spread.

You are cancer

>>513352940 (OP)
Top roght seems reasonable.
Zelensky is not a serious person.

>>513352940 (OP)
trumps offer is closer to top right to be desu

>>513363857
fucking lol dude you faggots have turned this board into fucking reddit.

this is some pathetic shit.
fucking election tourist newfags all of you.

no it is not proven to be a lie. it stands as a fact.
she was a softcore erotic model that slept with a plethora of men before she fucked epstein and trump. that is what she is.
and the modeling agency she was employed for was run by a subcontractor and friend to epstein.

fuck you and then some.

>>513364050
will you push for Odessa?
what is the talk of the town over there?

>>513352940 (OP)
russian bankruptcy and disintegration

>>513363456
>the only thing to expect at this point is the total stopping of arms and money flowing into ukraine for them to continiue fighting.
dont you think the said *severe consequences* might be arming ukraine with more advanced weapons?

>>513364067
You complain about the board but post share blue propaganda.
You are a disgusting faggot that cant cant back up any of your bullshit.

>>513364199
what wunderwaffen are we talking about now?
more advanced weapons?
what more "advanced weapons" can ukraine get man?
seriously?
indulge me on the hardware if you can.

>>513364150
Im just a regular Ivan, how would I know.
Realistically, seems impossible. If Ukraine front lines start collapsing due to lack of manpower, anything could happen. Rumors are they only got half of what is reported on paper to mr Z.

>>513352940 (OP)
Just freeze the Line of Contact and have that be the border. All these guys have to do is not be retarded for 5 minutes

>>513364417
>utterly pathetic.

dude this shit has no color. red or blue it does not matter.
look at picrel.
they are blue too. and are no different.
they are all in the pocket and are all disgusting.

the only rallying cry you have right now is to turn this into a left right paradigm issue.
which is pathetic in on itself.
there is no political competition.
they just take turns fucking the plebs over.
this was evident in the year of our lord 2025 in pol of all places but the fucking awooo cesspool general that the /ptg is leaking.
as tragic as it is.

>>513364733
Spreading lies about the first lady because you will never be a woman is beyond pathetic

Faggot shill

>>513354169
>Albanian
what

>>513352940 (OP)
Russia takes
>Lviv
>Kyiv
>Luhansk
>Rivne

Ukraine takes
>Sevastopol
>Belgorod
>Volgograd
>Kursk
>Makachala

>>513364863
holy fucking shit man the first lady was fucking bimbo mailorder whore. nothing more.

mellania got an EINSTEIN visa. a visa reserved for people that are einstein tier. highly intelligent and acheived.
even her entry into the states is a fucking scam.
since she is no fucking einstein or a scholar of any sort.
you are so fucking pathetic that it makes me hate this more even more since i am sharing this space with people like you.

>>513364863
>Muh first lady
She is a whore like all the rest

>>513365014
You cant back up any of those smears, tranny faggot shill.
You are cancer

>>513355886
yes

>>513355931
keep being a loser, loser

>>513355984
and the biggest army in europe

>>513358976
lost what?
at least I'm not a pro-putin piece of shit
feels like winning to me

>>513365587
>you lost tranny
>it is a dem hoax
>etc etc etc
>What is the Einstein visa? And how did Melania Trump get one?
>https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43256318

>https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU08/20250227/117951/HHRG-119-JU08-20250227-SD006-U6.pdf

this is all so tiresome.
all you need is this anons picrel.
here is your first lady.>>513365022

Is Russia going to take Alaska some day?

>>513364466
there's plenty they only got old versions of everything
only m1a1 tanks
f-16 only am/bm
only oldest variant of ATACMS

>>513354169
>2001 Census
even Ukrainian linguists agree that this map is complete bullshit and doesn't align with reality whatsoever. In 2001 all the way up to 2014 most Ukrainians spoke russian as first language, with most ukrainian speakers being old boomers and younger people primarily speaking russian. With all of their language policing they started to slowly flip it, but even now it's more of a 50/50 split.
If you're in doubt, you could even try using something like google trends to see which language they use for searches. Or visit any place with many refugees, i can assure you they will speak more russian, even if they're not from the east

>>513352940 (OP)
Afghans resisted for nine years and soviets fucked out of the whole country. UA just has to keep on fighting.

>>513366116
ok so lets say ukraine got those weapons, like say, sent a missile into kremlin, moscow.
do you think russia will capitulate?
are they gonna say some shit like
>holy hell these wunderwaffen are too stronk. we dont have anything as powerful. better give them their country back.
no it will be nothing but an escalation, and kiev or kief or whatever you call it will be struck with the "wunderwaffen" of russians.

the lives of ukranians are not worth sacrificing for the ambitions of other people.
if people are so hellbent on fighting russia, they should storm their parliaments and call for war. vote a warring party and enlist.
using other people as cannon fodder is utterly disgusting man.

>>513352940 (OP)
Doesn’t Russia have high unemployment for young males? They will keep going until that blood is all spent. Wars are a eugenic process(limited wars) to filter useless males out of the gene pool.

>>513352940 (OP)
We're fully prepared to fight to the last ukrainian.

Top right will happen.
Land corridor achieved.

>>513366496
you can cry about it but you did nothing to stop it either
the war will continue to everyone's amusement(except for russians and ukrainians)

>>513366056
Your link says nothing about Epstien, troon shill. What it says:
>Her lawyer has declined to publish details of her application, so we can't know what she submitted as evidence. But she may have been boosted by high-profile testimonial letters, said Nita Upadhye, a US immigration specialist at NNU Immigration Law.
OH WOW " MAY HAVE"!

Am not downloading the PDF, faggot, because it says nothing about Melania either.
What a pathetic lying faggot you are.

>>513366719
>Doesn’t Russia have high unemployment for young males?

No, that’s China. Russia has manpower shortage.

>>513352940 (OP)
I think the 5 contested regions should be turned into a demilitarised, neutral zone that belongs to neither Ukraine nor Russsia. Neither of those countries have any claim to it. That region has never been slavic. For the last five thousand years it changed hands between various steppe nigger groups.

>>513366797
ahahah
it is all fucking there but cognitive dissonance is strong.
you wont accept anything even it is presented to you on a silver platter.

>melania got an EINSTEIN VISA. that is a fact.
>that article is not about EPSTEIN, but about EINSTEIN.
you are having a hard time reading, i reckon you are dyslexic.
>the .pdf you are dismissing is about the actual biographer of trump himself. Michael Wolff.

but again, the cognitive dissonance is strong.

>>513352940 (OP)
Which of these options will bring more Orthodox churches to America?

>>513366719
Nope. They don't. The employment is around 98%. A number you've never experienced.

>>513352940 (OP)
If russia doesn't get Odessa they are giga cucked

>>513366796
there was nothing i or my country could to and i am not responsible for the actions of my country to begin with, just like yourself.

that does not change the fact that it is a tragedy.
there is nothing amusing about any of this.
this is prime edgelord speak.

>>513367429
>>melania got an EINSTEIN VISA. that is a fact.
Then how come you cant back that claim up? You are a faggot paid to come here and lie. Your only source is:
>A crackhead said so
How pathetic

>Melania Trump is suing Hunter Biden for over $1 billion, claiming he made false and defamatory statements linking her to Jeffrey Epstein

>>513367730
the drug addled HUNTER is only brought into the picture to get some heat off this issue. since he is so unpopular on both fronts. it is the modus operandi of attacking the messenger.
nobody cares about that faggot called hunter.

people have been saying the same shit for years before hunter recently got into the fold.
and he was only brought into the fold so morons like you can turn this into a left right paradigm bullshit.

>>513367429
And you just keep lying. Wolff has been caught lying before faggot. One guy claiming something with ZERO proof is not evidence. Plus every outlet is retracting the story

>On Thursday, The Daily Beast removed an article from its website that highlighted claims that President Donald Trump met first lady Melania Trump through Jeffrey Epstein. These claims came from Trump biographer Michael Wolff.

>Mediaite’s Isaac Schorr wrote, “Wolff is known for making claims of questionable veracity and provenance. In 2018, Wolff falsely suggested that Trump was having an affair with Nikki Haley, who was serving as his ambassador to the United Nations at the time. As a result, observers were not especially kind to the Beast after its credulous coverage of Wolff’s latest incendiary claim.”

>>513367599
Yep.

>>513368087
yes of course they are retracting it.
just like they retracted every single story about 911.

maxwell is going to walk. he is going to get a presidental pardon. this is what you are fighting for.
they are all in the club and fake a fucking competition for morons like you to fall for.
here, hear it from the horses mouth.
at least you can say you are sharing a cause with PELOSI.

>>513353172
God I wish

>>513368002
Do you seriously think your army hasn't already drawn plans for "peacekeeping" in the "Lwow Demilitarized Zone" if things go that far?

>>513367664
on one hand yes but on another hand its dey cultah

>>513352940 (OP)
It will end with Ukrainian extinction if Zelensky doesn't surrender.

>>513368293
You are a lying faggot
Everyone knows it
Melania met Trump at the Kit Kat club in NYC

>https://x.com/MELANIATRUMP/status/1946314054047248691

>>513368736
she was still a softcore porn model and fucked epstein and fucked trump on the lolita express.
she still got an EINSTEIN VISA just for being a whore model.

just think how many dudes she fucked before trump. a softcore model. just try to imagine how many times she got railed before trump to go for sloppy seconds.

>>513364478
dont you think you can take Mykolaiv and Odessa if ukraine war funding dries up?
do people want it?
or do people want peace at this point. i mean russians.
trying to check the pulse.

>>513370141
good one.
dude those 2 provinces are the only things that matter at this point.
it is their only access to the sea.
without them they are a rump state.

>>513370311
technicaly speaking both russia and ukraine are already rump states
russia since collapse of soviet union and ukraine since 2014

>>513369859
>just take Odesa
>still haven't taken Bakhmut Raion

>>513367599
What about if they don't take Bakhmut Raion?

>>513352940 (OP)
Top Right gonna be, Zelenski is over and moving to other country soon

>>513371496
russia still has access to the sea man.
i dont know that you are saying here.
i took you seriously up until now.

>>513372382
in this case you meant landlocked state not rump state churka

>>513372456
>Noun. rump state (plural rump states) Any politico-geographic entity (a state) that is the remnant of a previous, larger one that has been broken up.

all states are rump states by the official definition.
since all were greater in size once upon a time.
including yours.
rump state, landlocked state.
they are used in unison.
take your pick.
being a landlocked state is a greater folly regardless of how you take it.

>>513372722
>they are used in unison.
they are not churka
you just wanted to use another buzzword you dont understand
the thing you are ignoring and is actually important is fact that both of them are failed state aswell
so considering their attitudes its best to keep them fighting each other as long as possible
so the faildom wouldnt spill over to other countries

>>513373186
everything i said so far stands.
rump state checks out just as a landlocked state.

ukraine will be a rump state regardless, all they can wish for is to not be a landlocked state on top of that.
it is not like you care for ukraine or ukranians. 1 dead russian is good enough for you even it takes 10 ukranians to get it.

>>513373722
yea but you are ignoring being failed state is worse than both landlocked state and rump state and both ukraine and russia are already failed states
best we can do right now is contain it to russia and ukraine only

>>513354286
bruh...

>>513374670
Blyad you owe me tree fiddy after me being subjected to seeing this