Thread 513353288

Is it actually possible to get a decent Russian or Eastern European wife these days? I used to work with a Russian chick who kept telling me that American guys should be looking to marry Russian women online. According to her, they’re way more appreciative of men than the average American woman. Basically, if you can hold down a job and aren’t abusive, they’ll treat you like an 8/10 compared to what they’re used to.
Part of me thinks she was just hyping up her friends back home to get them an easy ticket out of Russia, but maybe there’s truth to it. Anyone here actually gone through with it?

Why aren’t more of you taking the Eastern European bride option seriously? It kills the incel problem, strengthens ties with traditional countries, and you get a loyal wife who actually wants a family. That means white wives, white kids, and a future that isn’t total demographic collapse.

>>513353288 (OP)
No, they are all scams by mafia. Only Choice is which mafia, Russian, Chinese, Italian, Japanese are the big ones buy you can have your organs harvested by many smaller mafia as well if you want.

>>513353288 (OP)
Mail order brides died in 2014

T.knower

>>513353288 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNaEaqr8Owc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYup8chgkwM

>>513353455
What happened in 2014?

>>513353485
jews the usual

>>513353288 (OP)
This arrangement now works only if you mail yourself to her instead.

>>513353485
Mainly the donbass war happened
That makes it harder for the west visit russia/Ukraine

>>513353288 (OP)
>Marry Divorceah Petrovna
>"Anons, will I have a happy marriage?"
They're ice queens with the world's highest divorce rate.

>>513353288 (OP)
if you are rich then yes you can get yourself a young bride until she learns lang and finds a better guy richer than you
because they are never satisfied with what they have they always need more

>>513353288 (OP)
The guys I know who ordered brides were all in the navy and they all got old jungle monkey women. They had to send all of their money to the jungle first (and then continuously) but it seems like it would be very easy to scam. Then obviously you have nothing in common with these chicks other than your money which they expect you send back to their families. And these are typically military guys, so every dime they have comes from the us taxpayer, money which is now being sent to shitholes in the form of remittances. So it’s quite a cycle

>>513353520
my ex gf left me because I make $700 a month.
Her new Spanish husband makes $3000

>>513353288 (OP)

I mean you can still go there and meet one, but no you can’t reliably go to “meetslavettes.com” any more. Do you have a dating app? Get the paid version that allows you to change location and put it in Belarus or Russia. You’re still probably going to have to go there at some point.

>>513353288 (OP)
There are probably anons interested so I’ll talk about what I’ve observed from westerners here who are married to locals.
>20-30% are divorced so far, a significant portion of married men I know have been married for over five years
>Haven’t heard of a successful divorce rape, western man usually demolished their Belarusian wife in court
>Belarusian women are usually happy to have multiple children with western husbands, but this is incredibly uncommon amongst local marriages
>Belarusian women are mostly helpless and universally very lazy, lazier than their western counterparts by a significant margin, and have learned helplessness in a lot of aspects (I can’t learn to cook now because my parents didn’t teach me, etc.)
>Official marriage stats say divorce rates plummet beyond more than one child, and considering divorce rates seem pretty low generally amongst western men who live in Belarus, a combination of two kids and being a westerner here is fairly secure.
>Most Belarusian women are psychotically jealous and suspicious
>Belarusian women are more materialistic than their western counterparts
>Belarusian women are equally as uppity but more likely to stfu when confronted

>>513354638
>You’re still probably going to have to go there at some point.
no, my ex gf when left me went to Berlin, where the Spanish dude met her and drove her to madrid

>>513354723
how come they become fertile when with foreigners? Is this why we imported 150 k pakistanis?

>>513354864
It’s a good question. It probably comes down to several things
>Most marriages I know have a 20-something woman and a 30-40+ man, meaning the man immediately wants kids and the woman is more fertile
>Women have a greater degree of perceived stability because “le west cool and stable” applies even to the individual man, greater perception of safety, essentially.
>Most wives don’t work, leading to them having nothing better to do than have babies
>Western men here are generally /pol/ irl and are doing the birthrate reversal meme for real

>>513355160
Fair. Enjoy your breeding time here!

Oh. I thought this was a sexy polis thread. Boring..

breeding bump

>>513353455
all of them? was it aids?

>>513359294
he's talking out of his ass, we're still providing to all who can't score in their own countries

>be me
>go on international dating site
>delusional young slavic hotties think america is heaven because they all listen to taylor swift or whatever
>talk to me in hopes of a green card
>uno reverso
>trick them into marrying me so I can escape this afro latino hellscape
>now they have a retarded mutt husband and they're still stuck in their horrible white paradise

>>513359488
you still going to be making x3 of me, so she got a good deal no matter how mutt you are (women don't care about your race as long as they love you)

>>513354743
wtf

>>513359575
my russian ex wife left me after 10 years marriage after i brought her here to europe, still thinking about kys myself but i'm trying to get a new slavic ice princess

If it even is still a thing, it's the most obvious "use you for a visa" thing ever and you would have to be brain dead to even consider it.

>>513359693
you can probably get even whiter one second time.
Things got better in west, but remained the same here and in Russia, so the economic discrepancy widened, prompting girls to seek foreign husbands even more

>>513353288 (OP)
>Mail order brides
Mostly slavs unless you have money like Trump to get a slave adjacent, Melania.

>>513359835
you think so? i feel like it got harder, i've tried toalking to russian girls on insta often again but they all have become like western girls

>>513359914
try to look for those who make too little. if theyr on insta they might have a good job, look for them, in VK in stupid groups.
Make sure they got no education, live in bad city etc so they wouldn't have any other choice

ask this guy for more: >>513355160

>>513359914
If they know English and have internet they likely are from a metropolitan area she is almost western EU standards. You got to go hunt in rural and rural adjecent towns nowadays.

>>513353288 (OP)
Morning, remember kids no smoking it causes cancer.

>>513359488
what a legend. this guy is soaking in 1000 rubles a month in disability and were broke incels. balkan flavoured tendies.

>>513353288 (OP)
if russian mail order brides were a good deal, they wouldn't have vanished into the ether the way they did. i've never once met or heard of a man who had children with a mail order bride, so I assume 100% of them ghosted the dude the instant she got her green card.

>>513360042
any examples? if i go past ekaterinburg, is that rural enough? or some village in siberia around novosibirsk?

>>513360040
ok thanks, any examples of vk groups? i feel overwhelmed, there is so many groups

>>513355160
help me out, brother

>>513353288 (OP)
>a decent Russian or Eastern European wife
haaaaaaaaaah!!

>>513353288 (OP)
>Is it actually possible to get...
No, they disappear with half your stuff the millisecond they get residency.

i want a qt russian girl who looks like this
from some rural area

>>513360522
>qt russian girl
rancid whore golddiggers

>>513354723
prime "I can fix her" material

>>513361335
there's nothing to fix there though.
What you intend to fix that impoverished white woman into?

>>513353288 (OP)
No, you can't. And don't come here, we're full. If you ever want to move to Russia, be white and bring your own family.

>>513354743
That's not a mail order bride, that's a regular old whore. They have those up the wahoo at home.

>>513360224
Do you want to move to the CIS? If not, that’s rough. I imagine any woman who would immediately move out to be with you is trouble. It became much, much harder online than it used to be in 2023. For some reason they collectively figured out the game westerners play on the internet and reassessed their own worth. The girls hunting for westerners on the internet realize how bad the situation is in the west for men at this point and are absolute hyenas. In person is significantly easier. The average Belarusian is stunned that I’d actually marry a Belarusian. They’re completely bewildered that I’d “marry down” or something because I’m still young and clearly have hope in the west. If you can assemble a friend group in the CIS and merely figure out a strategic location to insert yourself with young women around, they’ll come to you. I had a drunk girl once learn I was present and she legitimately came up to me and went “You from America? America my DREEEEEAAAAM!” while trying to touch me. I’ve had girls hitting on me with my wedding ring on in front of my wife. It’s not that difficult over here if you’re doing well and look okay. Quality is also easier to find here due to helicopter parenting and KGB-esque surveillance on daughters by parents. Just come in person. The internet route is dead. That crowd is getting shat on in Dubai after getting an invite on Instagram.

>>513361426
>helpless and universally very lazy
>psychotically jealous and suspicious
>materialistic
>uppity
>nothing to fix

>>513359488
Happens a lot more often than you think.

>>513361608
dude, she left me after he found her on instagram and just told her he's better man. Didn't even move here, she moved to him.

She wouldnt be a whore if it wasn't for internet.
It's THE definition of mail order bride

>>513361638
where you from? i figured it must be easier in person than on the internet but it used to be the easy method to get to know 2-3 girls beforehand then meet them in their country IRL. That's over now. Fuck

>>513361716
insane
mine also left me for a richer dude after 10 years marriage

>>513361915
well any dude is richer than me :D
even some Indians probably

>>513361818
Maybe it’s still possible, but any girl who speaks English and uses the internet enough to talk to you knows the situation. The good thing is that’s a minority of young women still. Do you speak Russian? This helps very much. You can probably do it online still pretty easily if you do: just find a girl that doesn’t speak English well.

>>513361818
Right, I’m American.

mail order is scam but its possible to travel and have a family marry off their daughter, just have to keep her sheltered so she doesn't get any wise ideas when back in the states

>>513353288 (OP)
This but cute Indian girl plz

>>513361967
Are there any non whores left in this world? I was born in brest but have been here all my life. As an experienced gooner these girls are already showing their holes in youth to any fucking body through the phone. It seems like any place with access to internet is cucked

it costs around $10,000 probably more in immigration fees. I dunno where the fuck these jeets get the money. I know most of the new ones are not citizens yet but that is their faggot goal

>>513353288 (OP)
Isn't that what Hans Reiser did and then went to prison for 20 years?

>>513361818
Also, if you want internet only before meeting IRL and don’t care about the suggestion, you should be targeting Turkish girls with white features instead of CIS girls, because Turkey is a nightmare and they’re all trying to flee. The best source about what women from this region are like is the men from this region you see on here, but dial their melodrama back 30%

>>513354469
Meanwhile she fucks men like me who make $0

>inviting some broke, desperate woman into your life because MUH DICK
Develop a gambling or drug addiction instead, you'll live longer.

>>513354723
>Belarusian women are more materialistic than their western counterparts
That doesnt seem physically possible. Are they literally inhaling piles of cash?

>>513362323
wait, I thought it's human trafficking?
Aren't glowies keeping an eye out on when conservatives 'shelter' hotwives/hotbrides?
>>513362751
nah too much internet actually spoils them by exposing them to how they are just commodities to be sold/bought.
In case of my gf, exactly because she DIDN'T know much about internet was the reason she folded to the first Spaniard that easily while her looks could've given her a nice Dutch or Swiss man instead.
Nope, got herself some swarthy (I am not racist just nooticed) Iberian
>>513363113
It's because they are more impoverished. In this country, just realizing the fact that in the west people make $7-10 an hour makes our heads go dizzy

>>513353485
>What happened in 2014?

Why the fuck does she look like that she looks like a mix of that Android m3gan and the momo hoax

>>513363113
They covet what they don’t get easily. fear of judgement for being poor leads girls to spend their whole paycheck on an outfit. People who make $400 a month wear designer clothing and have iPhones here.

>>513363012
Invite the woman to go gambling with you and then sell her when you run out of money

>>513363012
what if he has low sexual market value in USA/Iberia?
Then passport raises him from 3/10 to 8/10.
It's not gambling, it's supply and demand

>>513353288 (OP)
If you want progeny as an excess male with excess cash, I'd recommend surrogacy instead.
If you want good sex without strings attached, brothels and gfe escorts are better.

Mail order brides are too much trouble and you have zero control over them, they're a liability if anything.

>>513363848
>what if he has low sexual market value in USA/Iberia?
She'll cuck him for a guy who makes more money, divorce rape him, spend all of his money on retarded shit, send all of his money to family members back home, etc. You'll go from being lonely to being poor and lonely.
>Then passport raises him from 3/10 to 8/10.
He'll still be a 3/10 in her mind, unless he has a 10/10 bank account.
>oh my god this (foreign) provider male saved me from poverty! I'll love him forever!!
That doesn't happen, I grew up in a community with a good amount of mail order brides.

>>513365106
Our Sexpat addressed all of this here:
>>513354723
>>513355160

>>513365106
in short, you gotta force the woman to give birth from you at least 2 times.

Once that is done, even if you're most
smelly Indian, her life will be forever bound to yours via the offsprings

>>513353288 (OP)
Trump needs to demand more Russian bride exports as part of the Ukraine peace deal.

America First!

>>513365106
in short, you gotta force the woman to give birth from you at least 2 times.
And to do that, you'd need to exercise the passport/wealth up until the first kid is born, then one more.

Once that is done, even if you're most
smelly Indian, her life will be forever bound to yours via the offsprings

>>513353288 (OP)
>women
Didn't read. Don't care. Googled "PTHC p໐rn". Jacked off.

>>513366085
That's how you get yourself killed. Many americans with russian wives are double agents. It's a dangerous game. It's how they get you.

>>513366390
>implying /pol/ wouldn't want to work for Russian government
bro.. majority of conservatives would work for them for free, and here you also get a hotwife

>>513353288 (OP)

Eh, nah.

For me, it was getting an account on Interpals and talking to the Indonesian girls who flood my profile. If you take halfway decent profile pics and don’t spill your spaghetti like a pajeet (sometimes even that’s okay), then you’ll be golden. Many of them are nice, and they have a genuine love for white dick, they give a lot more of themselves to you than money buys you. They have curves too, chunky asses, thick tits, they’re babycrazy little nymphos. I’ve dealt with college girls who’ve given me nudes on there, a real Catholic virgin who literally didn’t know how to sext properly, cougars who got off on thinking of me knocking them up, crazy stuff on there.

I’m being serious… like Howard Beale said in Network, switch to a new tab while you’re reading this sentence, get an Interpals account, and see it for yourself, there are mostly Indonesians but also other girls from around the world on there. My friend listened to me and got an account to practice talking to girls, and sure enough, he found one he liked and they clicked, he’s over in Taiwan right now seeing her, there’s a good chance wedding bells are in the air.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RujOFCHsxo

>>513359693
>but i'm trying to get a new slavic ice princess
so you learned nothing

>>513366931
okay, now imagine ALL this, but they're also white.
That's your (possibly) new life in CIS (Russia/Belarus).

>>513355160
>Western men here are generally /pol/ irl and are doing the birthrate reversal meme for real
Based

>>513367475
Any in Finland?

>>513367574
I'm too much of a NEET shutin to be able to answer that question

>>513353288 (OP)
ask the russians of what quality their women are
>dead by alcoholism
oh well, explains it really.
now add the modifier that they put a literal pricetag on themselves

>>513353288 (OP)
Decent wives haven't been invented yet.

>millions of east and southeast asian actual trad virgin women under the age of 25
>wignats pick blown out former prostitute white women that sell their entire existence to a mail order bride system

>>513365208
>>513366020
The ones willing to abandon their friends and family might be a different beast compared to the ones that stay.
>her life will be forever bound to yours via the offsprings
That just means you're the provider male, who pays for everything and does all of the work. She'll be out partying with her fellow mail order bride friends, going to bars/hookah lounges while you take care of the kids, never getting a job, being abusive/neglectful, etc.

Here’s the red pill:

Basically all foreign brides are gold diggers that would fucking ruin you if they could and it was the most financially rewarding option.

BUT that still might be preferable to Western women who are not just gold diggers, but also very often massive whores, entitled brats, and obnoxious feminists who could trans your kids as well.

So it’s a trade off. The Russian wife might divorce you and try to take everything but she almost certainly will not try to trans your kids since that’s a uniquely Western mind disease. The same is true for all foreign brides except American/European ones.

>>513368118
>except American/European ones.
wtf? AMERICAN bridewife? From some trailer park? Why would she consider moving out? What passport can buy American/EU wife?

>>513353288 (OP)
>Basically, if you can hold down a job and aren’t abusive, they’ll treat you like an 8/10 compared to what they’re used to.
Yes, she's right. Slavic women respect men much more.

>>513363848
>5 points
We’ve definitively valued a western passport at 2-3 points. 5 is too generous. If you think you went from 3 to 8, >>513365106 will happen to you. A 7 coming from Switzerland or the US is a 10, but a 2 is just a 5, and 5s don’t get laid. Appropriately, ugly westerners without money are still incels in Belarus. Interestingly, guys that were players in western countries actually describe Belarusian women as being unusually difficult, so if you were Chad and wanted to get laid easily, it would actually be better to stay at home. YMMV on that one though, some guys think differently.

>>513368600
>guys that were players in western countries actually describe Belarusian women as being unusually difficult
Then they have something in common with croatian girls who are prude to high heavens, which is not a bad thing but god damn the entirety of effort is on your side
I've only ever been approached by foreigners...

>>513368844
KILL YOURSELF JUSTPASSINGTHROUGH (BAN-EVADING ARGENTINIAN (Barneyfag)).
I'M NOT EVEN JOKING, I WANT TO SMASH YOUR FUCKING HEAD RIGHT OPEN SO THAT NOTHING REMAINS OF IT AND I DON"T HAVE TO LIVE WITH YOUR EXISTENCE, YOU WASTE OF HUMAN FLESH. IF I KILLED YOU TOMORROW, THEN THAT WOULD BE ALL THAT WOULD SATISFY ME BEFORE MY EVENTUAL DEATH. NOTHING I WANT TO SEE MORE THAN ME CRUSHING YOUR FUCKING SKULL, TEARING YOUR FUCKING EYES, BEATING YOU UNTIL YOU'RE A LIFELESS FUCKING CARCASS, AND THEN GUTTING, DISMEMBERING AND GRINDING YOU UP UNTIL I KNOW FOR SURE THAT THE WORLD IS FREED FROM YOUR EVIL, YOU FUCKING WASTE OF LIFE, YOU FUCKING DEGENERATE SUBHUMAN, COLLECTIVE OF THE WORST FUCKING SCUM ON THE PLANET

>>513354469
this, eastern girls are total whores who go only after money
if they can switch to a richer husband, they will

>>513369749
yeah, well, in my case I can kms, but in case of foreigners they can fulfill their biological imperative before that happens.
So if the meaning of life is to spread your own seed, we provide white DNA for ASEAN competitive price.

>>513369749
so no different than western women

>>513353520
>>513354469
should i move to your country (not for marriage)? this country is a fucking meme at this point

>>513371217
I welcome all foreigners, я кocмoпoлит

>>513370060
They’re more calculated about it than the western ones.

>>513371217
I know guys who live in Minsk, Oblast-level cities, minor cities, and villages. Everyone is happy. It’s a very pleasant place.

>>513353288 (OP)

Under Communism, women respected men because they worked like men and knew the hardships men faced, so they were the rare women that could actually appreciate and respect men.

Modern Russian women aren't like this, they have been indoctrinated into thinking that men are their slaves (like all other women) and that they could stay home and lord over their husbands.

Globally, women earn 37% of all money and spend 85% of it, women are ALWAYS leeches.

> "Who Runs The World? Women Control 85% Of Purchases, 29% Of STEM Roles By Sandy Carter, Contributor. I’m COO at Unstoppable Domains, Top 10 Microsoft MSN AI Entrepreneur" (Forbes)

> "As of my last knowledge update in October 2023, women globally earn about 37% of total income. However, this figure can vary significantly based on factors such as country, industry, and socioeconomic conditions.

> For the most accurate and current statistics, I recommend checking reputable sources such as the World Bank or the International Labour Organization (ILO). If you have any more specific questions or need information on a related topic, feel free to ask!" - Ecosia Chat.

>>513367081
once you tasted slavic ice princesses you don't want anything else, bro

>>513372167

A question for a Belarusian:

What is Lukashenko’s game? Is he really Putin’s stooge, like our media likes to say? Something tells me he gets some concessions for himself, he is the longest serving head of state in Europe who isn’t cucked royalty after all, longer than even Putin

>>513373457
>What is Lukashenko’s game?
potato

>>513353288 (OP)
sure, if you can take care of her inevitable debt she's carrying, her family back home, and, when she gets comfy, to fulfill her western dreams, like traveling and some luxuries

>>513373283
>how to tell us you never got with a slavic woman

>>513361638
>I had a drunk girl once learn I was present and she legitimately came up to me and went “You from America? America my DREEEEEAAAAM!” while trying to touch me.
this happened to me in ukraine, but she was in her 30s and brown, and i realized i was actually doing better in the US so i left

>>513367236
>That's your (possibly) new life in CIS (Russia/Belarus)
>life
>Belarus
>Russia

>>513353288 (OP)

these online agencies are a mega scam. if you want to do this seriously, spend a month in Kiev or something with the intent of finding a wife. I think you'd find many women who would hear you out.

>>513373283

>once you tasted slavic ice princesses you don't want anything else, bro

I can see that, though my taste is a bit more on the yellow side (I prefer Turkic/Mongolic steppe queens). Whenever I think of Slavic ice princesses, my mind always goes to Natalie from MomPOV, a 33yo hag who's a Slav of some kind... you can tell she's stuck up irl and full of herself, but she's got a tight body that doesn't quit, and she gets quite into it once she's played with enough. Her tits aren't natural, unfortunately, but at least they're done tastefully enough where they're not a distraction. She's good for a few good faps at least, I figure many Slavic mail order brides are like this

https://www.tnaflix.com/anal-porn/MomPOV-Natalie/video6615259

>>513374244

>these online agencies are a mega scam

Who the fuck even uses those anymore? I thought that was a boomer thing, there's no way younger guys haven't learned how to bypass the middleman and use dating apps and chat services

>>513353288 (OP)
East European women tend to be spoiled and peretencious scum behind a quickly aging facade.
Remember Hans Reiser

>>513353288 (OP)
Being incel /pol/ user is no go for these women.

>>513373583
>potato
Potato is a big game, you can eat it, drink it or sell it

The problem is that you trannies forget that the average woman is not very attractive. If you tried to do this, you'd just get some shallow jungle monkey. Attractive women don't need to do this. Your "wife" works just take all of your money and leave when there was no more.

>>513353288 (OP)
Average European isn't much richer nowadays than say Moscovian, so if you're normalfag without money, I wouldn't recommend

>>513368600
honestly the biggest problem is the language barrier. she would never master my language and we would need to speak english to communicate in a non-english country.

>>513361915
so basically you had to speak english with her the whole time while she tried to learn dutch?

>>513354638

Meet slave ttes? What's a ttes?

>>513374474
>Who the fuck even uses those anymore? I thought that was a boomer thing,
many young women are looking for men who are much older than them, so yes it is still used

my uzbeki wife loves me for who i am damnit!

>>513353288 (OP)
I messed around with a Russian teen girl and caught a fucking misdemeanor.

>>513353824
>Then obviously you have nothing in common with these chicks other than your money

White american have a fugly legal loli and she has BWC, it isn't just money.

>>513376533
my wife is a BIG fan of the metro

4chan sucks so hard now. Where are all the pictures of foreign models in cheap clothes looking like mail order brides so I can feel like a rich American even though I can't afford a home? 4chan used to have good psyops.

> ooo. She's so pretty
> she probably doesn't even know she's 9/10
> lives with her grandma, so totally a virgin
> she'd drop to her knees for my $3200/mo
> forgets my nation is raping me financially via the FED for just one more minute

>>513376685
The fuck is going on with these posts?

>>513376533

You will never be able to top the vollposter with your little obsession, no matter how hard you try…

That said, there’s a fair chance I’m actually going over to Uzbekistan for a teaching job and to do research, I have absolutely no idea what to expect when I get there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZuQou8sIkc

>>513374665
Hans Reiser is based.
>>513362849
That is an externality: if he had killed all his enemies (white faggots) he wouldn't be in jail. he'd be King.

>>513375894
Hindi is very similar to Russian, it got the same roots.
Vedas literally mean 'Wisdom' in Russian, besides many Indians know English so it's no problem.

>>513353824
I've watched so much 90 Day Fiance that it's sickening and most of the yellow fever faggots ended up having to pay a fucking dowry to their family lmao

>>513353288 (OP)
Mate, it would be cheaper to marry a young sugar baby than to get an order bride. Cause at least in that arrangement all you have to do is deal with her and her stupid domestic family.

>>513354638
Just do Passport Mode on Tinder lmao

>>513376888
haha stinkyyy

>>513359488
kek

>>513370105
i've seen women like this. teenager in the favelav can still buy a $9 cocktail dress and $6 heels. Women have it so easy

>>513353288 (OP)
>Russian Mail Order Brides
Do it fast, boys. Until thirdies have grabbed all the girls and there is no one left for you. Time is running out

Slava no, easy Asians from poor countries yes.

>>513378125
grab em before they go extinct

>>513353288 (OP)
Because they gave no tail,.

>>513353288 (OP)
She will divorce you on first chance and take half of your property

>>513353288 (OP)
>Anyone here actually gone through with it?
heh

>>513359693
Any children?

>>513378242

I’m personally more attracted to Asians anyway (admittedly I’m into Asian hags, 30s-50s after experience with one, and I’m 30 now myself, but I know I need to chill on that probably lol)