Thread 513380164

>Everything is made out of low quality plywood
>Plastic is super thin and stinks
>Cushions filled with "synthetic foam"
>Carpets are made from synthetic wool
Is it just me or is the quality declining?

Yes it is.
The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

>>513380164 (OP)
just dont buy anything from them then. get some swiss carpenter to make your shit instead or something.

>>513380164 (OP)
It never was quality retard.

>>513380164 (OP)
>plywood

IKEA uses MDF at best nowadays...

it was already rock bottom

>>513380614
This
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>>513380164 (OP)
>Everything is made out of low quality plywood
Even "plywood" products are just plywood-imitation printed MDF at best, at worst it's cardboard. Ikea is usually the absolute cheapest shit you can get, obviously it's gonna be crap. Even factory reject polish furniture that doesn't fit together is usually more expensive than Ikea.

The quality of IKEA has declined significantly.
For maybe 20 years.

>>513380164 (OP)
My 20yr old IVAR is from actual solid wood, you can scratch the new ones with your fingernails

>>513380164 (OP)
Everything is low quality these days, with furniture you have to make it yourself or buy vintage. Or spend thousands for someone else to handmake it.

Even the expensive designer brands are absolute shit.

Hire a carpenter, buy vintage, or be a carpenter. Only choices.

>>513380614
Most of the stuff is shit, but they have higher priced stuff that is of better quality. Most people go for the cheap shit though.

>>513380164 (OP)
my desk is good why the fuck would i want furniture that weighs 50kg each you sound like a woman and a faggot

>>513380164 (OP)
I haven't bought furniture in my life.
Everything recuperated from older family and I live with minimal clogging like those "men see no issue" memes.

>>513380533
More like the government and it's consequences. Most normies don't realize just how much politics are fucking things up. The housing market is because of them. Unemployment is because of them. Muh "programmed obsolescence" is because of them.

But of course the typical 4chan midwit who says "lolbertarians" would never get it.

>>513380164 (OP)
its da jews, as always

>>513380164 (OP)
>swiss flag

HAHAHAHAHAH ITS THAT PAJEET PRAKAYASHIT SOMEBODY POST HIS DOXXED UGLY MUG HAHAHAH

>>513380164 (OP)

Ikea has to work around what people can afford. It's not their fault that wagies have half their income taxes by the government and the other half goes to housing prices, both things due to politics.

>>513382782

That's fucking chatGPT

If a question is simple enough to google, it's better to google it and see multiple sources. If it's too complicated to google and get an answer, chatGPT will make it up.

How does inflation by the central bank result in "focus on volume over durability"? That's some fucking chatGPT logic.

>>513380164 (OP)
>low quality plywood
you're giving them too much credit. It's not plywood, it's cardboard. see pic.

>>513384952
It’s referring to planned obsolescence you dipshit.

Sell 3 5 dollar headphones that last a year instead of one pair that lasts several

>>513380164 (OP)
i dunno some of ikea products are actually better than before. some of their shelvijng units got this hard wood like surface. its not a bad simulacrum.

>>513385294

how does inflation contribute to that?

i am legit asking, because i dont see the correlation

>>513384952
>How does inflation by the central bank result in "focus on volume over durability"?
its not rocket science, just simple economic logic

I bought a dutch oven for $20 3 years ago. It's pretty good, but I dont buy food or anything else.

>>513385396
Prices are rising and wages are not. People have less disposable income and opt for a cheaper item even if it won’t last.

This is not complicated. You are just stupid

>>513380164 (OP)
It’s better than any other store in the same price tier or the next tier up

>>513380614
This, the entire concept behind IKEA is cheap furniture. Company was founded during the boomer housing boom when millions of people built and purchased their own houses throughout the West and needed cheap stuff quickly that they could assemble themselves. They have some more expensive options that are completely fine but don't expect high quality.

>>513385805
>I dont buy food
explain

>>513385105
That looks like their absolute cheapest tabletop that they sell for about $20 (and lasts forever anyway)

>>513386112
Bro eats Dutch ovens

>>513385805
Is that a Le Creuset? Looks great for $20

>>513385487

>1
not necessarily, they could invest.

>2
businesses optimize for whatever people want, people could also want high quality things and buy that with their inflation money. plus this is the same during bust cycles.

>3
>more available capital means bad quality

???

>4
>customers want to pay less for things because they have more available credit

can't you see that this is just chatGPT blabbing? you need to understand that chatGPT works just like the phone keyboard autocomplete, and will respond with whatever sounds good for the context.

i agree with you that central banks are bad btw, i just dont see the correlation with this.

>>513380164 (OP)
>Everything is made out of low quality plywood
Lol
Not at all. The material is way worse than plywood.
It is not even an OSB.

>>513386112
It's not my supermarket of choice for food, it has weird brands and from the stuff I tried I don't like it . Years ago they used to have a smoked bacon with no preservatives or sugars but they stopped selling it so I stopped going there.

>>513385894

it's funny being called stupid by a 4chan midwit

prices are rising and wages are not, obviously. but there's also bust cycles with this system, and it's not like this is not the same way during the bust cycles. plus some people, such as those on welfare, government workers, or those getting credits, also have higher disposable income from the inflation.

i think it's more that wagies can't afford anything better due to high taxes and housing prices

>>513386447
Ah, you're talking about Ikea specifically.

>>513380164 (OP)
The furniture from IKEA during 1970 to about 2000 was pure class. Now its China quality.

>>513386814
Holy shit I'm retarded, Idk why but I thought the thread was about Lidl, I'm sorry. It's been a long day...

>>513380164 (OP)
it's because you timmys outsourced everything to the fucking subhuman chinks

>>513386448
>well this one nigger is a doctor so niggers aren’t violent
You are too woman-brained to learn anything.

>>513387110
lol

>>513386258
if wages kept up with inflation then maybe everyone would buy better quality instead of cheaper product, but they are not, so people looking for cheaper alternatives to consume at a same level and then everything chatgpt said are valid arguments.

>>513380164 (OP)
How dare you?!

>>513380533
The problem is too many dumb asses can’t understand the difference between “value” and “cheap”. Everyone just wants to instinctively buy the cheapest shit and then complain that its low quality and doesn’t last. I work with blue collar normies who vote Trump and America First, yet anytime they buy anything its the absolute cheapest shit on Amazon or Harbor Freight. It’s always someone else’s job to actually put their money where their mouth is.

>>513387131
that is not even related to what i said, i was not pointing to any counter example to disprove your point. you are frustratingly stupid, barely above normie IQ, and as confident as most people posting stupid opinions on the internet

>>513387493
i dont care. wages can't possibly keep up with inflation if inflation is ongoing, but that's unrelated to this.

>>513388422
>i dont care
stay stupid then

>>513388666

look man i see what you're saying. of course inflation makes wagies poorer and this is partly because of that.

it is definitely not because of the chatGPT blabbing you were posting. if anything it's because it makes wagies poorer so they can't afford any better, and that's it basically.

>Buying first home, do sofa shopping with wife
>Ikea is popular lets give it a look
>The sofa are all fairly cheap prices compared to what we've seen
>Take a cushion off, interested in frame material
>mfw it's basically plywood nailed together
>frame must last a year at most

ikea is a meme isnt it? might as well buy chinese shit off amazon

>>513380164 (OP)
It was the same low quality 20 years ago. Tried to move my IKEA bookshelf, it broke. Tried to move my IKEA closet, it broke. Leaned my ellbow on my IKEA desk, it broke. The desk looked like 2 cm thick real wood, but actually it was just two 2mm thin plywood plates and between them literal paper in a honeycomb structure. IKEA is bottom tier garbage. China has better furniture for less money on aliexpress.

>>513390064
>muh frame material
just don't take the cushions off and it's functionally the same as an expensive one kek. it will probbaly last more than you think

>>513380164 (OP)
Ikea is fine
This push against it is so forced
99.9% sure Lowes/Home Depot is paying people to shit on it

Yeah, it’s crappy stuff. It’s OK for a college dorm, but beyond that, you can do much better for the money.

It's always been shit that falls apart.
I can only say one good thing, well two.

1. Salmon in the cafeteria
2. Thursday evening after dinner it's packed with the best looking young ladies all blonds some with huge boy friends that are shopping for all those cozy little things that they skillfully use to turn their apartments into perfumed love nests.

>>513390294
they have several tiers of quality. they sell solid wood table tops and cabinets too, they just cost $150 vs $20

>>513393512
There is only a handful of things at Ikea made of real wood and worth a fuck.

>>513393512
I was talking about the $150 stuff. IKEA is garbage.

>>513380164 (OP)
>plywood
You're 15 years behind. It's all made of MDF now.

>>513386090
Now people can't afford it. They are losing money for the first time in their existence because a cheap crap is too expensive for most people.

>>513394769
You can also buy solid old furniture in charity shops far cheaper than any modern Ikea shit.

>>513390294
You can buy a quality product from ikea as well. I got a 400 euro height adjusting desktop and it's of an incredibly good quality. In worse case you will have to replace a top for 60 eur in 5-15 years.

>>513380164 (OP)
Everything under the guise of "le nature, le recycling" while in reality its dumb low quality consoomerism.
Love it how the tables and pretty much everything from Ikea starts peeling off a few months in, while the ancient wooden grandma's thing is still doing perfectly fine after a century of use. Shameful, really.

>>513380164 (OP)
IKEA was always low quality
When it came to Finland 30 years ago it was always the "dollar store" kinda like LIDL thats the whole point of it

>>513394769
Yeah the amount that is parasited by nonwhites not just the browns now leeching gibs at the bottom but especially the parasitic banker jews at the top is increasing all the time, White people are left with less and less share of their own productivity.

Hopefully people will wake up and realize that Hitler was right and fix this, kill the jews and deport the nonwhites and keep our productivity to ourselves.
Otherwise its only going to get worse and worse.

>>513394769
I bought IKEA once when I was young and had no money. It was a mistake, not a single piece of that furniture is still in my house, it all broke sooner or later. Wasted money. Now I buy furniture so that I never have to buy another piece in my life. My current desk is solid oak. With proper treatment it will live longer than my grandchildren, without losing any value.

>>513394994
it's probably cheap crap i'm 99% sure it isnt whole wood but some cheap mdf crap
its actually getting hard to find proper whole wood furniture even in regular midrange furniture shops

>>513394655
skill issue. you were probably using phillips screwdrivers to assemble instead of pozidriv.

>>513380164 (OP)
>>Everything is made out of low quality plywood
>>Plastic is super thin and stinks
>>Cushions filled with "synthetic foam"
>>Carpets are made from synthetic wool
>Is it just me or is the quality declining?
Fucking hell, you have no idea how bad things are.

>>513380164 (OP)
>Is it just me or is the quality declining?
The quality of everything has been declining for the better part of a century by now.
Are you really so dense that you're only noticing it now?

>>513380164 (OP)
Ikea is great.
Cheap furniture. Based on my experience still better quality than other cheap options.
Also has some more expensive options with a bit more quality. Personally I would buy quality stuff from elsewhere though.

>>513380164 (OP)
Hello saar

>>513380164 (OP)
Really cynical business model and incentive scheme mean a lot of crap is banged out that is destined for the tip.

>>513382879
Hahah based

>>513380164 (OP)
With the modern grift economy you already take a risk as it is buying any kind of product. Buying IKEA in the era of everything being designed to explode after 2 years is like trying to dig below the bottom.

>>513395713
No. There is no $20 furnite in European IKEA stores. Your $20 closets are probably assembled in illegal basement sweatshops by undocumented immigrant slave workers for $0.50 a day. That US business model doesn't work in Europe, because Europe has laws and government-funded police.

>>513380164 (OP)
They have started using some more quality materials, like actual wood, again. Please buy from IKEA, my gf has a good gig there.
Or not, make her life shit, I can cover finances maybe she'll finally want kids LOl too old fml

>>513396271
>>513396357
What's going on mehmet, are you that mohammadan convert who is actually proud that he converted to pisslam?

>>513396444
There is plenty of cheap furniture here. What is going on in germoney? They also have wooden products even now.
There are definitely 20 euro ISH table tops.

>>513396700
Good morning to you too, saar

>>513380164 (OP)
Always has been for poor people.
Protip : boomers sell expensive furniture for pennies, or at local auctions when they die. Nobody wants them until you tell them it has a signature by a famous 18th century woodworker.
t. got some Carlin, Roentgen and Saunier furnirtures for under 50-100€.

>>513380164 (OP)
The founder was a fascist