Thread 513392498

Uh... Ameribros?

>>513392498 (OP)
Ukraine isn't America
Cope seethe and die, pigfucker

>>513392498 (OP)
i don't really care, ask china or israel for help

I would give up desu.

Fuck Ukraine, who cares.

>>513392498 (OP)
I need to see the demographics of the shaded area before I make my final decision.

getting the rid of new york would eliminate like 50% of american problems.

>>513392855
Do you not know? This is a question for Americans.

>>513392498 (OP)
I LOVE MONA FROM GENSHIN

>>513392498 (OP)
>advocating for a never ending war because lines on a map
KWAB

>>513392498 (OP)
not exactly equivalent desu. that eastern coast contains at least 100 million people and most of our most important cities

>>513392498 (OP)
>washington dc, nyc, atlanta
give it up

>>513392920
Good taste.

>>513392498 (OP)
But it's not a choice. The land is already captured (not stolen). They can only accept reality or deny it.

(((Scaled)))

>>513392498 (OP)
Cry about it, cuckhole

>>513392498 (OP)
You can go fight for it, like right now. War is till on as we speak.

>>513392498 (OP)
well maybe next time don't start a war with Russia

>>513392498 (OP)
no

>>513392920
For me, it's Nagatoro

>>513392498 (OP)
>thought about engaging
>1pbtid
Oh, nvm. :/

>>513392498 (OP)
The only state worth fighting for in that picrel is florida and its full of boomers and jews. Im definitely giving all that up.

>>513392498 (OP)
a: wouldnt defend this judeo-zionist economic zone
b: would willingly give away urban centers, nigger zones, anything that is part of the karen industrial complex

>>513392498 (OP)
Oh no! We'd have to give up New Jersey!

>>513392498 (OP)
Here's a variation of that question. Let's say, in some alternative timeline, the British owned the east coast of the United States and some dastardly rebels claimed it and occupied it. Should the British give it up?

>>513392498 (OP)
post the original

Ukraine was never going to win the war. They were never going to recieve substantial military support from NATO to fight Russia because NATO does not want a war with Russia. All Ukraine could do is saber rattle to deter an invasion from Russia. As soon as Russia invaded, Ukraine should have folded their cards and surrendered. They would have saved millions of lives. This will go down as the worst strategic mistake in modern history. No country has ever won a war of attrition against the Russians.

>be the ukraine
>established 1992
>used to be part of Russia
>everyone therefore speaks russian
>zelensky criminalizes russian language which is spoken in shaded region
>cries

This image in OP has got to be the textbook definition of false equivalence. Ukraine lost a war, and now they're going to cede a small amount of territory and they're going to suck it up and like it.

>>513392498 (OP)
I would be willing to pay a foreign nation to take the shaded area off our hands.

>>513392498 (OP)
Giving up Jewish land to Russia is a good thing, sweaty

>>513392991
The east coast contains most of the cancer. Let's give it to Russia. Please. Maybe they can take California too.

>>513392498 (OP)
yeah, but USA is sovereign country, ukraine is not.

Remember what you'd be fighting for.

>>513392498 (OP)
Tell me, is that territory in America almost entirely inhabited by Russians that speak Russian and the Americam government is persecuting them for doing so?
Plus, have the Russians pushed the American army out of there with no hopes of recovering it despite unlimited funds and weapons from NATO?
Is any of this true?

>>513392498 (OP)
no cards

Eastern Ukraine is to Russia what Pennsylvania is to the US. They’re right to take their land back.
>>513394531
>Here’s your American security forces bro

No one cares hohol, back to being an irrelevant shithole

>>513392498 (OP)
Take it please. It’s like fighting over turds.

>>513394088
I beg someone to take that land. I hate all the faggots living on west coast

>>513392498 (OP)
The people who live in Donbas are Russian. They voted to join Russia. And now they are part of Russia.
Western billionaires tried using Ukraine in a proxy war against Russia because they wanted to steal Russia's natural resources. They failed.

>>513392498 (OP)
usa should give that territory up I dont care

>>513394816
Seriously, imagine dying over that worthless shithole

Not my country not my problem
shut the fuck up faggot

Is this land really worth anything in America? It seems most americans hate the coast

>>513392498 (OP)
Russia can have it all as far as I'm concerned. Take the rest of Europe while you're at it.

>>513392498 (OP)
The problem for a lot of us older folks is that we still have memory of Ukraine being part of the USSR.

The US has operated under a 'sphere of influence' model for generations; where the larger 1st world superpowers were responsible for maintaining their client satellite nations.

Long story short... Russia vs Ukraine appears more of an internal struggle to older Americans than one free nation fighting another larger neighbor

>>513392498 (OP)
it's not that they should or shouldn't, it's if they can or can't

and they can't. no cards.

>>513394888
Ukraine could be a better Poland without the Donbass.

>>513392498 (OP)
We have WMD's. They do not.

>>513392498 (OP)
>israeli memeflaggot
>doesn't understand maps
nigger wtf are u talking about.

>>513392498 (OP)
>lose the whole east coast
I'm okay with this, especially the loss of the New England deep state shitstains.

>>513392498 (OP)
>high population high economic value region is same value as low population low economic value region
ukrainians have entirely forgotten their place

this is such a retarded troll, embarrassing

>>513395059
Because it is a proxy war, Ukraine woudn't have lasted 6 months without the unlimited funds and weapons from NATO, hell, there woudn't even be a conflict without the Obama coup

>>513392498 (OP)
>meme puts the American equivalent in the most densely populated and historically relevant piece of geography.
Eastern Ukraine is more equivalent to sparsely populated coal country, mixed with southwestern US style demographics. It's essentially a completely different country in the east.
Ukraine itself is effectively really 3 different countries, but almost no one cares about this nuance nowadays. Most of the time, it's idiots on both sides projecting their culture war bullshit on a matter of geopolitical importance. I'm sick of every discussion on Ukraine turning into morons turning it into "trad" Aryans versus "degenerate" shitskins. It's so childish

>>513392498 (OP)
>memeflag thread
Fake and gay catalog filler

If they wanted to keep that territory they shouldn't have lost a war.

If Russia developed a teleportation device to teleport infantry from Moscow to Florida (because they have a 0% chance of arriving here via air or ship), then we'd use strategic bombers to remove Russia from world maps.

Then again, we actually develop weapons, craft, and defenses. Because we're not a third world shithole.

>>513395013
The costs are all that matter.
The middle part is just wasteland.

Poor losers living in the wastelands resent rich successful people on the coasts, yes.

>>513394053
New Jersey is rightful Pennsylvania territory.

>>513392498 (OP)
Unlike Ukraine, the US doesn't lose domestic wars so the comparison isn't apt.

>>513395221
gaza is worth more than all of america

>>513395088
how many weeks russia need to win them?

>>513392498 (OP)
they can fight however long they want, it just wont be with my taxpayer dollars and Russia will no longer be subject to sanctions.

>>513392498 (OP)
that eastern coast of ukraine probably makes less money/food than delaware

>>513392498 (OP)
The Ukraine is a fake country created in 1991.

>>513392498 (OP)
Might make right

>>513392498 (OP)
winners win

>>513394088
Did this fucking zoomer just use a gray eraser on a white background?

>>513392498 (OP)
America hasnt been a real country since the early 1900s.

>>513395310
I'm not speaking of the manner in which the war is thought; I was talking about America's general indifference to the fight between Russia and Ukraine

>>513393657
>beaner IQ

The left would give it up just to get rid of Florida. But if we want to be real its give that up and maybe be able to still exist in 3 generations because 70% of men got thrown in a wood chipper or keep throwing the other 30% and hope that you'll live long enough to see only half taken.

>>513392498 (OP)
I don't care about anything going on across the ocean. We should not be involved, we should not be funding either side, we should not "negotiating peace deals", it is not our problem

>>513392498 (OP)
This is not acceptable, zelensky needs to fight on longer and conscript more Ukies

>>513392498 (OP)
It would depend on whether we were capable of winning. Ukraine is not capable of winning.

>>513392498 (OP)
>muh relative scale!
Fuck off. Kikes try to do this with the october 7th shit to say 1 Jew is worth 1000 Americans.

>>513392498 (OP)
If they don't want to give the land up they should roll in and kick the Russians out. If they can't push Russia out then it doesn't matter what anyone says or does, that land belongs to Russia.

>>513392498 (OP)
So France and Spain gets back their bits of America and we take the west cost? Sounds based desu. We'll take the rest off France and Spain later. We have the most blacks they'll kill Midwest and Pacific armies

>>513395221
>couldn’t even cede all of California
Honestly that should’ve been the deal. I couldn’t imagine a bigger poison pill.

>>513394053
They mean proportionally

>>513394836
hate us cause you ain't us nigger

seethe

>>513392498 (OP)
Let Mexico take back the south part of America and I’d be cool with it
We would get rid of half of spics

if you cant keep it, you will lose it
fuck you ukrainians, fuck you native americans and fuck you palestinians

>>513392498 (OP)
1. that's why having a strong military is important and why being able to slaughter the whole world brings peace
2. the euros should sit up and pay attention. They've been looking down their noses at us for many decades while we've been paying for and providing their defenses.
3. look. Ukraine is losing an entire generation of their men to the war. It's better to put a stop to it now and try to salvage what they can. If they're smart they'll make it legal for all their citizens to own guns, encourage their men to practice fighting non stop through airsoft and violence vidya etc, and then to breed like rabbits and secretly build up their military and infiltrate Russia with many sleeper cells... and then years and years down the line... annihilate Russia without mercy. But for now they need to take a breather and rebuild.

>memeflag
Uh, shill?

>>513392498 (OP)
Last I checked nobody is stopping Ukraine from fighting to the last man.

>>513396213
You have way bigger problems

>>513396348
applies to rest of the europe too

>>513392498 (OP)
But Ukraine is winning.

>>513393521
>gets invaded
>"uh, why did you start the war asshole?"
Tard

>>513396629
No they're not fucking stupid bitch.

>>513392498 (OP)
They're currently in a war and still less whiny faggots than Magyars have been for a century.

>>513392498 (OP)
Now do palestine

>>513392498 (OP)
alot of countries lost land in ww2 against the nazis, i don't expect anything different

>>513396672
My television says so, faggot.
Also... lurk moar.

>>513392498 (OP)
They can keep fighting if they want, I don't give a shit. Why do you ask?

14:1 russoids. you suck at war.

>>513393657
I never want to hear a single thirdie talking shit about American education again, you morons are all room temperature IQ

>>513396672
r*ssia certainly isn't winning. They can't even take donbass, much less reach Kiev. Also, for every Ukrainian lost 14 invading r*ssian communist hordes have been decimated and slaughtered.

>>513395221
>>doesn't understand maps
The irony of you typing that and then seriously posting this is not lost on those of us with a functioning frontal lobe.

>>513396031
Yeah and that's a retarded way of looking at it. Like when jews say Oct 7th was their 9/11 because each jew life is worth 100 goyim. Shut it, Chaim.

>>513394729
Nope. It isn't. Ukraine was here first, if anything. m*scow belongs to Kiev.

>>513397615
>>513397847
which fella is you

>>513392498 (OP)
and if those areas got invaded and we couldnt take them back, we too, at some point, would have to face reality that we probably wont get them back.

>>513392498 (OP)
>illegal invasion
As opposed to legal invasions.

>>513395465
This is the correct answer. It's still Russia.

>>513392498 (OP)
I live in the orange area and wish this would happen

>>513395413
>

>>513392498 (OP)
Well, take it back then. I don't care.

>>513398297
Is he wrong?

>>513392498 (OP)
its simple:
ukrain loses = more money for israel
jewSA smaller = less moeny for israel

>>513392498 (OP)
If the USA didn't respect the Mexico II accords then yes they deserve to lose it to Canada

>>513392498 (OP)
All of America is stolen land. We should give it back to the natives and send all the rest of the people in America to London

>>513393992
North Carolina is ok. Maine is good

>>513392498 (OP)
We shouldve let the south go.

>>513394127
Culling the surplus male population was the goal. It always is with limited wars unless the goal is resource extraction.

>>513392498 (OP)
It would be worth trying to get it back for some time, but if we were just throwing lives away by the 10s of thousands with no real progress over 3 years then I'd say it's time to think about an armistice.
You can always try other methods to get the land back later. But it's insane to destroy 2-3 generations with no plausible hope of victory.

>>513392498 (OP)
zelenskyyyy

>>513392498 (OP)
and why should I be the one to pay for it lol
fuck em, it’s not my problem if they can’t win their own war

>>513399167
Hey, don't say that. 365,000 nigger-loving yankees died to free niggers and keep the South part of the new nigger union. Try to respect your ancestors, okay?

>>513394088
As a WA state resident, I would welcome our new overlords. That is, provided that they hang our current politicians from highway overpasses.

>>513399153
>2020
They might want to update. Kek.

>>513394053
>>513395221
where are you guys getting these maps? none of these are correct. Ukraine isn't even the same size as Missouri, the greatest and largest state in the country. the referenced piece of land is like the equivalent to our bootheel.
also fuck Kansas.

>>513395504
Shut up! I was hoping no one would notice :<

>>513394127
>This will go down as the worst strategic mistake in modern history.

Jews are the ones writing the history so no it won't

>>513392498 (OP)
>in that same situation
Pointless and worthless comparison because that situation does not and will not exist. America doesn't have to beg for charity to fight its wars, nor does it have to drag its people off the street and force them to fight.

>>513394127
>As soon as Russia invaded, Ukraine should have folded their cards and surrendered. They would have saved millions of lives. This will go down as the worst strategic mistake in modern history
Correct. They should have kicked negotiations back to the United Nations. Russia would have had to make concessions, and Ukraine would have only lost Donetsk & Luhansk. An insurgency would have been easy enough to set up and maintain for 20+ years. Now they've lost the majority of FOUR oblasts. Ukraine literally chose the worst option.

>>513392498 (OP)
If the eastern US were filled with a minority that everyone in the other part of the country hated, it would make sense to give it up.

>>513394127
> As soon as Russia invaded, Ukraine should have folded their cards and surrendered.
To be fair that was their first reaction. Then Boris Johnson swooped in as part of his “destroy everything” tour and talked/bullied them out of it.

>>513399956
they could just say the area in kilometers but that doesn't decieve people.

>>513393166
captured (stolen)
I agree with the rest.

>>513395221
What's with the grey malignant mass in the middle? Did Ohio cause this?

>>513392498 (OP)
not my problem

>>513393166
>The land is already liberated (not stolen)
I agree with the rest.

>>513392498 (OP)
>illegal invasion
Lol

>>513402249
Norway (Norvezhskaya Oblast)
I agree with the rest.

>>513392498 (OP)
we would fight like hell until this becomes a daily occurrence because we can't keep the trenches filled

>>513392498 (OP)
why scale it? tf i care if ukraine is a tiny country, don't scale it to the US. Scale it to a state. And make it a portion of like Maine where everyone speaks french or something. Easy trade. Take it.

>>513392498 (OP)
>leftist admission that they would never honor state referendums to leave the union and that violence is the reasonable route against them

Vicious enemy of the west?

>>513392855
Yep. He couldn't have constructed a worse comparison. If "the Ukraine" didn't try so hard, with such insane murderous violence, to be a Ukrano-supremacist Bandera reichstag, they could be a peaceful and prosperous farming region.

>>513392498 (OP)
Russian won, Ukraine lost.

Don't like the deal? Keep fighting. We are not dying for Ukraines borders.

>>513392498 (OP)
but the US could fight without needing to beg for help, unlike weak little Ukraine, which isn't even really a country. It's the Canada of Russia, speaks same language, has shared culture, but somehow wants to be different sooo badly.

>>513392498 (OP)
Awww shieeet here whitey go wit his per capita shit again!

>>513392498 (OP)
jews got way more of the usa than that now.

>>513392498 (OP)
this is so frustratingly stupid, because it never was about what ukrainians want, in fact, ukrainians don't even support this war, which is evidenced by the fact that they are being hunted down and forcibly drafted by Zelensky's military

>>513392498 (OP)
You mean fight like hell to still lose it and maybe more.

>>513394088
Make it happen. I say give it to north Korea. I want scare crows now.

Don't care, didn't ask, kill them all, total hohol death

>>513392498 (OP)
Actually I hate that part of the US, a LOT!

>>513392846
This...and, we could stop someone doing that to us with little or no help. Ukraine is just weak, and the Donbass is rightfully Russian clay.

>>513392498 (OP)
It’s not really unusual to have to give up territory after losing a war. Next time Pookraine should win.
Also I’d give up the majority of both our coasts in a heartbeat. Jew York, LA, and SF in particular can all fall into the sea for all I care

id give it up Instead of sending all those kids to their death

>>513392498 (OP)
Holy based. But give bsck new england and maine and take california

>>513403453
>the Donbass is rightfully Russian clay.
i dont know about that

be real man. no place is "rightfully X clay". that's just a construct. its as much "rightfully" ukrainian as russian. if anything it should be up to the people in the donbas

what is objectively undeniable is that ukrainians are rightfully free and they are getting drafted. this alone makes zelensky a genocidal dictator.

>>513402518
Here's Vodka and a train wagon of crocodil.
You'll agree with everything and nothing.
Now fuck off to your 47.floor apartment with all your Shitting pants drying at the balcony.

>>513403762
I dont care, but the simple fact that Russia can take , and wants, it makes it theirs. So sayeth all of human history.

When is china going to be invade Taiwan?

>>513395342
Before the war the Southeast of Ukraine was 50% of its population.
And the Donetsk and Kharkov oblasts amounted for more than 25% of the population.
The East is the most developped and heavily populated region of the country outside Kiev.
Or at least it was before 2014.

>>513392498 (OP)
Bad comparison. The Ex-Mexican lands would be a more accurate one.

>>513392498 (OP)
Ukraine is not in the situation America would be in that comparison. Their lost territory has been inhabited by mostly ethnic Russians for centuries. They should not have tried to genocide them. Simple as.

>>513392498 (OP)
Don't care, cry a nigger river tranny

>>513392498 (OP)
The Donbas region voted to join Russia, so I do not care about this at all. OP is a piece of shit tranny.

>>513402338
>Did Ohio cause this?
Yeah, but don't tell anyone.

>>513404870
More babies? From the north?

>>513404797
Dont know, other than it will be in April or October.
They can attack at anytime, and very well may do so. However they cannot actually launch a full on invasion until around Oct, or April.
If I were betting, id go with April. Warmer ya know... although I don't know what sort of rain Taiwan gets in April vs October.
But, either way it won't happen unless its April or October.

>>513392498 (OP)
>>513392498 (OP)
Why don't they just take it back?

>>513405094
2 more weeks bro

>>513392498 (OP)
If it was west coast, sure.
We all know if such an event were to happen it would be after a war the jews running the show in DC started and lost.
And by jews I specifically mean ukikes.
Ukikes, not even once

>>513392498 (OP)
Fuck NATO. Fuck Democrats and their Cheney girl Victoria Nuland

- t. Democrat

>>513392855
>I need to see the demographics of the shaded area before I make my final decision.
How about primary language?

>>513392855
Here's the Oblast level, which is a little misleading. (Also 20 years old).

>>513404814
Oh, okay. I'm used to all of the analysis coming from after the war started in 2014. I've also read that eastern Ukraine (Donbass) has been a place where nothing but criminals and gang members inhabit, but that came from a source that I didn't really trust.

>>513396213
based and correct

>>513405166
Not necessarily this year mind you. Just, the month happens in the will be April or October. Maybe a smidge before or after, but certainly close enough for that prediction to be considered accurate.

YOU
FUCKING
RETARD
AHHAHAHAHAHAHA
WHAT A STUPID FAGGOT
HAHAHAHAHAHA.

>>513405792
Taiwan was supposed to be invaded like a dozen times over the past 5 years just stfu

>>513405907
The Confederacy had to cede more than that in the 1860s lol

>>513404797
>>513405094
China is happy to just throw their weight around and wait for an opportunity. Let's say America goes balls deep funding Ukraine, gets directly involved in Israel vs. Iran, etc. Then MAYBE China will make a move on Taiwan. Until then they're perfectly content bullying the shit out of anyone that calls it Taiwan instead of Chinese Taipei with all the resources of a State-funded information warfare bureau.

>>513395013
Even though coastal noggers think they are important the truth is there's only about 5 coastal cities that matter and that's counting both coastal. Everything south of New York with the exception of maybe Savannah Georgia is useless land that exists solely for poor people with the exception of Florida which is a failed experiment and has some rich people.

>>513406334
>make a move on Taiwan.
Hahaha any day now

>>513406396
I understand your skepticism Anon, that's why I emphasized "maybe" in all capital letters. China doesn't let its cassus belli options fall off the table into obscurity. Russia doesn't either, which is part of the reason they ended up being able to make a second move on Ukraine eight years after the last. People called the invasion illegal until they were blue in the face, but the trail of justification is easy enough to find for anyone with an internet connection. 2014 coup, previous government overthrown, Budapest Memorandum effectively made as useful as toilet paper, invasion of Crimea, eight year shadow war between ultra-nationalist militias and Donbas Seperatists + Russian PMCs.

begginsky has the duty to make peace now
he will not get back any land thats for sure. so why keep the conflict up for no good reason other then ripping the west off for personal enrichemt! damn it

>>513392498 (OP)
Those are wildly off-scale. The equivalent area in America would be about Maine through New York State.

>>513392498 (OP)
I see your argument and I still feel like fuck Ukraine.

>>513406783
>so why keep the conflict up for no good reason
I can tell you why: The more damage inflicted upon Ukraine the more money he and his owners make during the reconstruction. The moment this war ends a monumental amount of loans will be issued, an army of development firms will be rolled in, and hordes of migrant workers will be authorized. Ukraine is a cash cow being prepped for full exploitation.

>>513392498 (OP)
The difference is we would never let that much land be taken. Not pertinent.

>>513392498 (OP)
mah dude, Americans lost all their country to ze jew.

>>513392498 (OP)
>fight like hell to keep something that rebelled against them 8 years ago and 4/5 of the people are older tgan the country itself

>take the entire east coast, shitskins NGOs and banks, all of them
this is supposed to be bad?

>>513392498 (OP)
I don’t give a fuck about Ukraine. Kill yourself nigger

>>513392498 (OP)
Oh no not the east coast which is invested with niggers, jews and Italians

>>513406103
You dont read so good, do ya champ?
Moron? Or bot?

>>513392498 (OP)
>removes NYC
>removes DC
>removes Philly
>removes Florida
>removes all that shit on the East Coast
JUSTIFIED
REMOVE ALL THAT SHIT
NOW

>>513392498 (OP)
the difference is that the US wouldn't be begging for hundreds of billlions of dollars in handouts from Europe to fight that war. we'd just handle it.

ukraine would have already been conquered if we hadn't been funding their defense.

>>513399956
Lol so what, is the territory being claimed the size of St. Charles County? Yeah, Russia can have Wentzville if they want.
>t. Grew up in Missouri

>>513392498 (OP)
should have just agreed to not be in nato and not house american military assets. how fucking hard would that be? fuck around find out. now you killed a generation of your young people congratulations fucktards

>>513392498 (OP)
If you want it so bad go get it faggot. They're not taking any of my land

We have a whole ocean on that side

>>513392498 (OP)
This isn't comparable at all. It's really like a 6 foot crippled retard telling me to give him part of my steak dinner. Yes he's 6 foot and has retard strength, but he's still a crippled retard. As a 6 foot 2 inch farm boy, I like my chances. Zelensky is a 5 foot 3 inch gay manlet. He probably should give the crippled retard what he wants.

>>513408405
>>513405792
>>513405094
>Uhhh grorious tea reaves say it wirr be in aprir or october
uh huh, suuuuure. The IQ of this place drops by the day

>>513392498 (OP)
i dont give a shit. ask one of those nigger countries to save you. i am done with it

>>513395221
Damn when did we get another Great Lake, mandela effect

>>513392498 (OP)
I'm not fighting for kikes, let alone dying for them.

Fuck israel, fuck ukraine, fuck the kikes, fuck the talmud, and fuck you. faggot.

>>513392498 (OP)
70% of ukrainians are willing to make a deal
but not you

only 12% of new ukraine army recruits are volunteers but you`re bravely willing to send them to slaughter

you don`t care about ukrainians, you care about the current thing because you`re a propagandized moron

>>513392498 (OP)
>Should Americans fight like hell to keep it?
are women not Americans? Why are only men being kidnapped and forced to die for something they don't think is worth dying for? I guarantee the vast majority of the people sharing this meme are feminists too, and none of them will appreciate the irony.

>>513392498 (OP)
The power of the federal govt is illegitimate at this point. The states are meant to have more autonomy. I wouldn't care if some northern states wanted to join Canada.
And at this point, Texas and California are already parts of South America. And we haven't done anything about that, so yes. Americans wouldn't care.

>>513402661
I don't understand why they wouldn't just kill the people trying to kidnap them. I would. Immediately. FAFO.

>>513408814
No...the ocean current says that. What's your problem dude? Daddy not molest you enough?

>>513392498 (OP)
Why should I care? I have no wife or hope for a future. There are no decent women available who aren't whores and tattoo-covered drug addicts. I'd probably move to the seized territory if they run things better

>>513392498 (OP)
>Uh... Ameribros?

(((Scaled)))

Also those territories want to secede after the President they elected was ousted in a coup. Ukraine was using their military to force the people there to stay because they have oil.

The idea that Kiev has any claim to that land after overthrowing an election and using violence to keep them from seceding is absurd.

only 12% volunteers joining now

but the reddit crowd has decided the meatgrinder war for a decimated land that was mostly russian speaking to begin with must remain in the hands of their oligarchs and not the other sides oligarchs at all cost.

the reddit crowd has decided its worth throwing millions of more lives at this. the ukrainians have decided its not worth it, 70% of them are willing to negotiate to end the war see >>513408988 but they don`t have a choice, they are rounded up into vans and sent to the front lines anyways. the comfy redditor sitting safely at home cheering it on.

>>513392498 (OP)
You're right. It's only a war. No reason to get worked up over who won.

>>513395587
no, you are just jealous

>>513397783
you are a nigger

>>513392498 (OP)
assachusetts should be expelled from the union under all circumstances

>>513392498 (OP)
One is capable of kicking out the invaders, going to their country and razing it.
The other is Ukraine.
It would literally take all of you and then...nukes. That's reality, deal with it.

>>513409255
In that case, you might enjoy going to war.
Get to kill people, and get paid for it!
Call 1-888-550-ARMY today!

>>513392855
This. If it’s less than 75% white then it is for Russia I will fight

Would OP's mom just give up the pussy, or fight like hell to keep it? I think the answer is clear.

>>513392498 (OP)
>>513392823
>>513392845
>>513392846
>>513392855
They can have jew york and california

>>513399347
We tried to send them back you retard. But SOMEBODY had to shoot the guy who was planning that. Now we have to deal with the fallout of your feral livestock roaming around. Remember, this is YOUR fault, dixiefag. You did this. Your people brought them here.

>>513409243
>No...the ocean current says that
Some of the stupidest people that have ever lived in human history post on this board, how I wish we had gatekept this place better over the years.

>>513393166
>>513402429
how about we take western Canada, until the quebecian French are the majority population of Canada that way the Anglos left over can seethe as frog fuckers rule their lives.

and you can have all of ukraine except the faggot part which we will name westkraine. Westkrainians can go clean polish and German toilets, i mean we already have fucked all their women. I creamed in a Ukrainian whore's face yesterday and told her to tell her husband thank you for his service if he survives the front.

>>513409453
Not true, but even if I were I'd still be smarter than you maricon. Learn what a map projection is retarded faggot

>>513392498 (OP)
That chunk of the US is worth several hundred whole Ukraines.

>>513392498 (OP)
>illegal
>vicious
I have some adjectives for Ukraine:
>faggy
>corrupt
>weak

One difference in these scenarios is that the US didn't lose the war for these territories. If Ukraine is winning, then go ahead and win, but stop bitching to us. If you're losing, then expect what happens to losers.

You're being helped in securing a better deal. You are free to keep sending your people to their deaths and then get a worse outcome, or you can stop the war now and things will only be this bad.

We are not responsible for you being unable to protect yourselves. We have given you hundreds of billions in aid. Continuing to blame others for your own weakness only makes people less sympathetic.

We are also sick of being lied to, for instance about Russia being out of ammunition, or the Ghost of Queef. You do not come across as trustworthy people. For that matter, they aren't even good lies, which makes you look all the more foolish.

>>513409910
You, chief among them, Mr bleep bloop.
Done with your pathetic ass.

>>513409698
*Commiefornia

>>513392855
>the demographics of the shaded area

That part of the US is Yankees, Jews, Jew Yankees, Ivy League pseudo-intellectuals, Washington swamp creatures, many of them Jews, niggers, niggers, and niggers, old retired Florida Jew Yankees, and here and there an actual human being, who could flee west before the takeover. If we could sell it back to the Indians for $24 worth of beads and trinkets, it would be a good deal for us.

Seriously though, OP is full of shit. That eastern part of Ukraine is full of ethnic Russians who want to be part of Russia, and have voted that way, and we the U.S. could not accept that result, and that is why we are in this mess. Also, Russia has taken it, they have got it, and trying to dislodge them would be like ten Vietnams. Worse, it would end in the Russkies drapping nookyuler bums on all our heads. I say fuck it.

>>513409307
But folx, Ukraine is not a vicious and illegal dictatorship like Ruzzia

>>513396668
>illegally secede from the union
actions have consequences.

>>513392498 (OP)
1.There are several cities on the east coast which are worth more than the entirety of Ukraine
2. Who gives a fuck what they want to give up? That's not how post war treaties are made.

They're free to fight whoever they want. That doesn't mean others are obligated to bankroll them forever.

>>513410222
Go back to /x/ where the schizos belong retard, no one cares about your bullshit tea leaves predictions you larping faggot

>>513410554
>illegally secede from the union

But an illegal coup to oust the man they elected President is legit right?

>>513392498 (OP)
Fake

>>513392498 (OP)
I don't care how it happens
I just want it to end

>>513410554
Fun fact: Secession wasn't ruled unconstitutional until 1869, which is why even Jefferson Davis was never found guilty of treason.

>>513410547
what the fuck is this from

>>513392498 (OP)
>scaled to the size
Reality doesn't work that way on this topic, faggot.

>>513411587
It's Pavel Rakov. Says right in video.
>>513411774
No, he's right. That is to scale. You might not like reality, but it is what it is.

>>513392498 (OP)
Removing the West Coast of the US would be fine, based even.

Also fuck Ukraine.

>>513409959
>map projection
Map projection has nothing to do with the meme you moron

>>513392846
your taxes care you don't have to

>>513392498 (OP)
why can ukraine not just take the L

>>513392498 (OP)
thats actually a pretty good comparison
>imagine if all the White German Americans from the midwest were forced to endlessly die for the kikes over in DC, jew york, and florida
wow! when you put it like that just give up the territory and end the war!!!

>>513392498 (OP)
Why do Jews like analogies so much?

>>513398084
>Imagine being on the same side as nafo troons

Shitkraine deserves to lose.

Russia can have the east coast so long as they 100% absolutely pinky promise to not leave any fucking survivors

>>513392498 (OP)
If we invaded a country the size of russia in scale to jewkraine after ethnic cleansing russians inside for years prior to the war, id say that'd be a fair tradeoff.

>>513392498 (OP)
1. Ukraine lost
2. There are no Ukrainians living there.

*scales it to the whole world*
guys it's like giving this much of the world to russia!!!
*scales it to the whole universe*
guys it's like giving this much of the universe to russia!!!

Russia should get Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, and New Mexico to keep east coast trash and faggot ass flyovers outta California.

>>513392498 (OP)
False equivalence zigger. The US could defend it's eastern territory. You can't, so give it up before your country goes extinct.

>>513392498 (OP)
Can we negotiate a similar size region on the other coast?

>>513413420
>HECKIN PUTLER WONT STOP THERE
>NEXT HE'S ATTACKING THE BALTICS
>THEN CENTRAL EUROPE
>THEN WESTERN EUROPE
>THEN ICELAND
>THEN THE US
Personally I'm tired of schizophrenic jews.

>>513392498 (OP)
I would rather live under Russian rule than this kike government, give all of America to Russia for all I care

>>513392498 (OP)
>scaled

>>513392498 (OP)
so you're advocating we kill invaders to take our land back? based.
ukraine already tried and they're a bunch fags.

>>513413177
It's not a meme you fucktard, and yes the reason that Ukraine appears smaller in the picture you posted is because of the projection used. You are a complete fucking idiot

>>513392498 (OP)
>ILLEGAL invasion

>>513392498 (OP)
Nigga when have we not wanted to fuck off the coasts? Throw in California too

>>513394531
And we could deport the niggers and make them Russia’s problem? Sign us up

>>513392498 (OP)
Washington DC is in there. They have to take Washington DC. No give backs.

>>513392498 (OP)
>stolen
kek'd you fucking kike

>>513392498 (OP)
Ukraine has already given it up to Russia. They simply refuse to accept the plain and obvious fact that it is no longer Ukraine, it is Russia. That being said, Ukraine should not cede any territory to Russia which is not currently occupied by Russia.

>>513392498 (OP)
Its not about saving Ukraine. Its about killing Orks. Same as Palestine and India/Pakistan. Ideally both sides lose.

>>513405399

So ukraine is actually russian.

>>513392498 (OP)
That is drastically scaled up, in reality its the distance from NYC to Washington DC.

>>513392498 (OP)
ukraine started this war tho

>>513416594
>the reason that Ukraine appears smaller in the picture you posted is because of the projection used
Why dude, why do you have to talk out of your ass
The reason that Ukraine appears smaller in the picture I posted is becasue Ukraine is smaller than the USA!!!!!!
Are you a mongoloid?

Look again another comparison that shows EXACTLY the same as the first pic I posted.

id indiscriminately start killing jews
problem solved

>>513392498 (OP)
not even close, loser fuckin cunts

>>513392498 (OP)
Every state below Virginia would blast you to kingdom come.
You would not survive

it's crazy how much this "russia-ukraine-america" thread smells like pajeet

>>513392855
>>513392855
>>513392855
HOLY
FUCKING
KEK

>>513392498 (OP)
Okay, then keep fighting and do it without our toys. We're done with this bullshit. America has enough problems. We don't need to take on Europe's as well.

>>513392498 (OP)
Both sides are on same team. War is fake and gay. Would not fight, so what if territory gets controlled by some other Jew. Nothing really changes so why bother dying over it

>>513421041
No.

>>513392498 (OP)
How do we persuade Russians that Ukrainians and Azov are occupying the South, and they need to liberate the CSA from ZOG?

>>513392846
>Fuck Ukraine, who cares.
this is the right take. unfortunately, zigger shills have a problem understanding the reality that pretty much no one cares about this conflict on any deep or personal level. so crazy emotion shilling about how russia just has to bomb civillians in order to save the west falls really flat.

Who cares if you are Jewkrainian or Jewussian?

This is such a stupid argument america is not giving up the land Ukraine is. If america was in this situation what would Ukraine do for us?

>>513392498 (OP)

How much military aid has the ukraine ever poured into the US?

>>513392498 (OP)
>scaled to size
BWWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
FUCK YOU FAGGOT

>>513421751
lol what ? Why supply the worlds biggest arms producer and supplier ? What you smoking ya druggo ?

>>513392498 (OP)
>what if different
>the same no?
Fuck off nigger

>>513392498 (OP)
You dont get back the territory you couldn't defend in a war. It was the military's job to prevent that and they failed. That's literally how war works lmao

>>513422398
But that's not fair!!!!

>>513421631
>>513421751
But ziggers say the US started the war with the 2014 CIA coup. So, non-jewish morality would dictate that we should support the people suffering because of our actions. You could look at it as a "you break it you buy" type of situation.

Also, balance of power in Europe type of stuff. It's not currently a material issue (as in monetary cost) for either the US or the EU. The aid rendered so far has been a very modest amount relative to the yearly US military budget.

It could have been much higher from both the EU and the US without breaking the bank in any way. So "muh tax dollars" is simply not a good argument against helping them out.

"I don't give a fuck" is a much better and honest argument. But everyone in these threads clearly does, for one reason or another.

>>513392498 (OP)
Everyone missed the point that the Eastern Seaboard isn't fighting the government in the same way that the donbas is fighting ukraine

If the east coast wanted to succeed then the analogy would at least make some sense.

No one gets this conflict and it shows.

>>513422785
secede*

>>513422398
1) the war isn't over
2) ukraine has to agree to let russia do anything useful with that territory. they could be sending drones into it daily for years and years.

so it's really not as simple as "hurr durr, you lost it so deal with it." if i were zelensky, the only way i give up territory is with guaranteed NATO membership, or even better, a direct security guarantee from the US.

>>513422830
>the only way i give up territory
He doesn't have that territory to begin with. Since 2014 separatists have been fighting for independence.

>>513392498 (OP)
ok, so Ukrainians should "fight like hell to keep it" and I don't disagree. They should pour everything they've got into the war and maybe they'll win but probably not.
btw, in the top scenario, you think Ukraine would do anything for us? Probably not.

>>513409307
fuck off, we're full

>>513422785
Succeed at what?
>>513422822
Secede at what?

>>513392498 (OP)
Eastern ukraine voted 11 years ago to go back to Russia and America said "you're not allowed"
Learn your current events bro

>>513394153
tell me you know nothing about Ukraine without telling you know nothing about Ukraine

Ukraine has became a part of the Soviet Union due to it being captured back in 1918 and had no option but to give up, and in 1991 (not in 1992) it became an independent country.

Russian language isn't criminalized, far from it in fact. There's only a law that makes people speak Ukrainian in all the government structures and to have all the people working as cashiers and such speak Ukrainian.

And in my opinion, having people in public service of Ukraine speak, well... Ukrainian is more than fair.

You are free to speak any language you want, just beware that not many people would like the fact that you speak the language of the occupant.

>>513392498 (OP)
Deal. You can have them.

New York is like all of ukraines gdp and then some. What do you mean ?

>>513392823
>>513392845
>>513392846
>>513392855
>jeets living in flyover states, giving up their ancestral homelands, the 13 holy colonies

>>513392498 (OP)
all those niggas can go. bye bye.

>>513392498 (OP)
The coasts are indeed occupied by foreigners right now. That is the situation and Trump is doing nothing about it nor has any American politician in decades. The foreigners have infiltrated the government itself and the politicians are their lapdogs.