Thread 513407761

>security guarantees from Europe with assistance from USA
>freezing frontlines
This is how the war ends.

>guarantees from
There it is. That's the thing we were looking for

>>513407761 (OP)
Putin will not settle for less than the 4 eastern oblasts. No deal. No peace. Remove the idea from your head.

>>513407966
Cope
It's over, don't get greedy now

>>513407761 (OP)
>Trump lies about a bunch of shit
>people believe him

>>513408006
Literally no chance. Fuck off. And we will escalate in arming Ukraine. Russia will have to take it if the want it.

>>513407883
You won't have it. Putin wants no british/french soldiers in Ukraine who might block him from invading the rest of the country.
Btw according to russian propaganda, UK is the ultimate evil.

>>513407761 (OP)
You gotta watch the revealed tapes to understand that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2eV4E596is

>>513408245
>putin wants
You're confusing putin with Russian propaganda
Bet you also think putin wants denazification

>>513408313
Putin wants Ukraine and the rest of the soviet block. Obviously nazi, biolab trannies, genocide of donbass children is propaganda for the average russian and /pol/

>>513407761 (OP)
literally the war has to end because we gonna be at war with Iran and China in like a year

There's no way putin and zelensky will really meet each other and just end it, something has to happen come on... Fuckin orange nigger stopping all the happenings

>>513407761 (OP)
Is it me or is it kinda fucked up that war is determined by boring office meetings?

>>513408967
Many such cases in history

>>513407761 (OP)
you forgot the part where *we* buy the weapons from America to give to Ukraine and it's all on our expense

>>513409103
I get that but now more than ever it's just "okay let's make a deal, x country gets y financial assets and z country agrees to stop shooting." Like why are people sitting in trenches dying over some presidents' shopping lists?

>>513407761 (OP)
I NEED A NEO GENGHIS KHAN TO CONQUER EUROPE AND AMERICA PLEAAASE

>>513407761 (OP)
They may or may not do that and i tend to think this is another bullshit and the war will/must go on. Too many whites people are still around

>>513407761 (OP)
If Trump can end
>Ukraine and Russia
>Israel and Hamas
He 100% deserves the peace prize. I hate the mother fucker, but the results woulds peak for themselves.

>>513408470
putin wants a warm water port, and the land needed to protect it

>>513409894
He cant even project power onto his next door land neighbour and he wants to larp as global sea power
He should get real

>>513409283
It’s for defending democracy and human rights, that’s why the men must conscripted (enslaved) and forced to die fighting on stream.

>>513409103
This is very acceptable if we are talking about monarchies which invest in and maintain expensive professional armies. When you are talking about conscripts (slaves), it’s hard to justify diplomacy

>prime minister
>prime minister
>chancellor
lol lmao

war would end literally within 24 hours if USA says china stop buying russia oil or we put t00% ariffs on you

china makes phone call. russia obeys their master

>dude has to set up playdates with a bunch of horseniggers
just nuke them both

>>513407761 (OP)
Kill Zelensky, shoot him the fucking brain he is a demon

>>513409283
That shopping list is the reason the war started in the first place, most wars are how the elites play in the playground

Already in December 2024 I predicted how the war will end, and nothing's changed.
here's what i wrote in the first version of my post on Dec 17th:
>Trump the Peacemaker proposes these terms to Putin after hashing it out with American allies, Putin rejects these terms, and accepts them begrudginly after being pressured by Trump on the battlefield by 2026
>Ukraine's full sovereignty from Russia is secured
>NATO without NATO - European forces will patrol the ceasefire line without Americans BUT under the aegis of NATO so that if anything happens to these forces, America gets involved
>Ukraine joins the EU after fulfilling requirements like any other candidate
>America & rest of NATO keeps militarizing Ukraine with NATO spec - AD, fighter jets, missiles
>China is key to forcing Russia to give up and Trump succeeds in pushing China to push Russia
>sanctions on Russia remain, but will stop increasing (maybe a few get removed as a token)
Enter, the Second Cold War

The only change to the map that I foresee is that Sweden might be swapped with Germany now that Scholz is out & Merz is in
NATO WON

>>513408245
You cannot convince me that the UK isn't the ultimate evil.

>>513409894
Freezing waters down in Novorossiyjsk

>>513408179
lmao, the Fortress Belt utterly btfos Russia so hard.
They haven't even scratched it since 2014.

>>513407761 (OP)
Ukraine is out of meat to throw into the grinder. They killed off as many as they could.

>>513407761 (OP)
i cant believe russia won ww3

>>513409652
So my theory is that whatever was said to Trump behind closed doors made him flip the fuck out. I don’t think it was guarantees alone. Maybe trade agreements? Zelensky, Macron, and I’m assuming Meloni since she was particularly forward with him during the puppet show phase of the meeting, either got to him or offered him something really good. They played his ego.

>>513407761 (OP)
>almost four years
Interesting. So he's just talking about the SMO then, not about the separatists and militias that have been fighting since 2014? I guess this means the conflict will rage on then.

>>513410974
>Novorossiyjsk
yes but its still considered a warm water port

The only way Ukraine give up territory is EU access. It's where it all started, and it's where it'll end.
There's nothing else on the table remotely akin sellable than speedrunning Ukraine to become Poland 2.0.

The whole of Zapo and Kherson for Russia is a pipe dream though. Giving up Donetsk Oblast, too, as Azov will probably NEVER freely give up their Kramatorsk et al.