Thread 513416553

>lie about literally every single thing on earth
>always tell the truth about space

Why are governments like this?

>>513416553 (OP)
Space is Fake until proven Gay

>>513416553 (OP)
the moon landing happened

>>513416784
Wait, is there any evidence of that?

>>513416840
The remains of them are still on the moon. The descent stage of the lander, the moon buggy and the scientific instruments they set up.

>>513417100
Wow, source?

>>513417370
I uh… I am unimpressed.
Where is this from?

>>513417100
i am not much into the moonlanding fake, but you can point at our lunokhod and say there where commies inside it.
there were not

>>513417537
The Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter.

>>513417620
Who do you think made the footprints?

>>513417667
Oh hecking based, a government would never lie about space.

So… I am embarrassed to say I was kinda thinking this was fake, given how preposterous it is to claim those are LRV/astronaut tracks.

What do you make of the fact that the final LRV parking space has no buggy tracks nor astronaut tracks? Seems a little weird, given how miraculously visible all the rest are.

>>513417833
>Source?
>Source given
>Is that satellite in lunar orbit owned by a GOVERNMENT?
>Then everything it shows is fake
If moon hoaxers all dropped dead tomorrow, would anybody miss them?

>>513417979
>Its true and we can prove it with information only we have access too
You actually be this stupid can you anon?

>>513417732
Dude, If you're really going to fake a human landing, you're just faking the human footprints.

>>513417537
You can actually freely listen to all 11000 hours of Apollo 11 mission audio. Online and in real time switching the channels as you please.

>>513418127
>I am a poorfag and can't afford to go go to the moon so the moon is fake
No really, would any section of society suffer for their absence?

>>513417979
Hey man, I trust the government… but only if they are a talking about space since we know they lie about everything on earth.

Gonna respond with your take on why the LRV is parked really far away from any tire or foot paths?

>>513418236
>I can't afford to go to Spain on holiday
>So Spain is fake

>>513418194
>just go to the moon and see for yourself
bait.

>>513418188
Am I allowed to listen to their simulated missions as well? That might be fun.
>>513418275
Hmm, I’m not sure why you are seething, but you are certainly seething.

>>513418330
You are among the most obnoxious faggots on the planet. Dumb as a rock but simultaneously convinced you are smarter that everybody else because "hurr duur I no go to moon personally and don't understand physics so moon fake hurr duur".

going out for a rip there, bud?

>>513417667
>the goverment didn't lie, here's a photo from the goverment to prove it

>>513418494
Really at this point all of you all just need beaten up IRL. Fuck your bullshit, just kick your heads in.

>>513418330
Your argument is just pathetic because you're from a ussr country and you know as well as we do the ussr had the means and the motive to prove it was fake back then and did nothing about it.

>>513418550
>>513418474
Why would anyone get this defensive about the moon landing lmao.

>>513418188
>You can actually freely listen to all 11000 hours of Apollo 11 mission audio.
so they saved all that audio but the orbiter desing is lost technology?
>>513418550
come and do it, faggot

>>513418562
>the cold war was real
this board never recovered from 2016.

>>513418562
The same USSR that was reliant on the USA to prevent widespread famine?
The same USSR and USA that were sharing data that would help each one nuke the other?

The Cold War was a meme, retard.
Source: it happened on earth and governments talked about it.

>>513417100
You can send that to the moon without oersonally being there.
There is a rover on Mars, have we walked on Mars?

>>513418598
Jewish brain washing is crazy. Usually it is Americans that get this mad, Brits have no excuse.

>>513418693
>It's a robot
Show me this robot.

>>513418798
You can see it right here, retard:
>>513417370

>>513418828
Where is the robot in this picture retard?

I wonder why none of the 400 000 people who participated in the project came forward and told us the truth of how they all worked to fake it and how realistic it is to silence such an amount of scientists, engineers, cafeteria workers, janitors and guards.
But that is a wrong question. A correct question uou should ask to any flat-earther is "is there any kind of proof you can imagine that you would accept as convincing and change your mind"? The answer is usually no and as a result their belief falls under religion according to Poppers falsification principle.

>>513418863
Just follow one of the arrows. Take your pick.

Now your job is to prove it was a manned craft and not a robot.
Do you think you can do that?

>>513418915
Prove it is a robot retard.

>>513418598
It's kind of weird right
Its about as silly as pretending to actually believe "gravity" keeps a planet pressurized from a vacuum

>>513416553 (OP)
Whi filmed that? They did a good job following. Poor guy is probably dead now.

>>513418885
where is the orbiter documentation then

>>513418885
Just doing a quick sanity check here…
Do you think the guy who procured stainless steel washers would necessarily know whether or not those washers went to space?

Point being, you might be regurgitating a really fucking stupid argument that you never even put a single thought into.

>>513418946
>get asked to prove it was a manned craft
>don’t
>demand proof it was a robot instead
It appears we have no way of delineating between these two possibilities.

Do you simply take it on faith and trust in the government that it was a manned mission?

>>513417100
Mhmm. And I'm sure you've seen all these artifacts?

>>513416553 (OP)
>Write song about absolutely nothing
>Everyone is distract as it takes up the media trying to figure out what it means
>Still

>>513419043
>imagine being praised as one of the most important men in space exploration history and it's all a lie
poor dude, probably why James Webb left before the moon landing and ghosted everyone

>>513418598
this is what i dont fucking get. if they dont like the opposing opinion just stfu and move on. if they wanna have a rational debate, i might listen

>>513419062
Is there any kind of proof you can imagine that you would accept as convincing and change your mind?

>>513418885
Compartmentalization.

"I wonder how the Manhattan Project happened but nobody talked!"

Moon Landing believers are tards.

>>513419266
I notice you asked me a question without answering mine. This is very poor form, let’s act like adults.

You included in your 400,000 people cafeteria workers. Why the fuck would anyone tell the lunch lady or the janitor they faked it?

>>513418885
>flat-earther
>is there any kind of proof you can imagine that you would accept as convincing and change your mind
that's like watching a magician stuff a rabbit into a hat then asking what he can do to convince you that he's actually performing real magic and pulling it out of thin air. you can't ever go back once you take this red pill.

>>513416553 (OP)
They don't lie about literally every single thing, that's retarded. Your brain is completely fried. Yeah they lied about 9/11, jews, food safety, a bunch of things, but not LITERALLY EVERYHTING. So because you've turned into a dumbass, you think the earth is flat. If the government told you to drink water you'd drink motor oil.

>>513419464
>not literally everything
I noticed you gave examples of things they DID lie about, but nothing for DID NOT lie about.

Could you give me an example of the government telling the truth?

>flat earth
Oh dear, it’s schizophrenic. Poor thing.

>>513419349
So the answer is no. As a result there is no point in arguing with your religion. I respect your beliefs.

Most people these days don't believe in the moon landing because the government lies all the time about the jews.

>>513419558
>Government tells me space exists
>Space is fake and gay
Seek Canadian healthcare.

>>513418188
>we saved 11000 hours of mission audio
>b-but we accidentally taped over the telemetry tapes (the most important evidence)
Hahahahahahaha. Only nigger tier retards could still believe in the moon landings at this point

>>513419592
What a disgusting, disingenuous coward lmao.

Unable to even walk back his claim that the fucking jannie at some office building would have been told about the hoax if it was a hoax.

Truly pathetic.

>>513419464
> get accused as a flat earther for questioning the very shady buisness that were the moon landings
I bet you didn't even know the real astronauts intended for the mission died in a fire while testing the launch pad, less than a year before armstrong "landed"

>>513419062
>Do you simply take it on faith and trust in the government that it was a manned mission?

This is the central question that Moon Landing believers cannot answer.

Less than 5 years prior, the same government -- the same Department of Defense that houses NASA -- invented the Gulf of Tonkin incident. It never happened. And 55,000 American soldiers & over a million Vietnamese died as a result.

>>513419612
Um dear retard, I’m well aware the government always tells the truth about space. I’m asking you to give an example about something they claim on earth that is true, because they lie about everything on earth.

YOU made the claim. Back it up.

>>513416553 (OP)
good luck against russia

>>513419430
he will never be a bunny

>>513419592
>arguing with your religion.
Pretty much what it comes down to.

>>513416553 (OP)
It never happened. The Rusbros put Yuri “The Smile that Warmed Up the Cold War” Gagarin into space and won the Space Race so the Masons moved the goal posts to the moon and filmed the moon landing in a studio in Hollywood. Here is a clip from the Anglos trying to fellate /ourguy/: https://youtu.be/KSvAe7_GjJM

>>513416840
A Hollywood director with jewish executives proved it loser

>>513419731
What fascinates me is, especially on /pol/, these are people who would triple check if the government said the sky was blue. If there were any clouds, they would argue about it.

But the lunatic brainwashing is so powerful they can’t accept that the government didn’t just arbitrarily tell the truth about things they never could verify.

>>513420077
I always found this take the most peculiar, again especially for /pol/.

I watched his whole presentation and it was just silly.

>>513420095
It is always us who has to actually go and look things up for you every single time while you get to just sit there saying "hurr durr it's fake" without having to fire one braincell further. You know fuck all about any of this but still claim expertise.

>>513416840
yeah
not that youll listen, because youre not here to put any of your ideas or opinions on the table for discussion, you just want to be a reductionist faggot who either knowingly or unknowingly is serving jewish narratives here

>>513420095
the moonlanding is an ego thing, especially for americans but also the "whites" here like to take credit for it. That's why they take it so personal and refuse to have any real discussion about it.

>>513420259
I’m not asking you to look anything up for me anon.

I’m asking for one of two things:
>an explanation of why you trust the government
>an example of something the government told the truth about

That’s it. One comes directly from your own personal brain, so you don’t have to look anything up.
If you have to actually look something up for the second one…
Well…

>>513419676
You seem to be consumed by your retardarion since as every flat-earther you cannot into reading comprehension and very conveniently ignore parts that you dont like.
If you look carefully at my post you will see that I already answered you even before you started asking. I explicidly said that
>But that is a wrong question. A correct question you should ask...
By which I completely conceded any and all importance of the first question. I will not defend it because I do not care.
And then you have the audacity to claim that I asked you a question without answering yours when all I did was restate the original important question.
Also Penis.

>>513420370
I told you to prove this robot you claim exists actually does but you never did.

>>513416840
>>513416553 (OP)
Are you a Christian by any chance?

>>513418957
Explain how a vaccuum works.

>>513420259
>It is always us who has to actually go and look things up for you every single time
here you go: https://www.bitchute.com/video/eZramDBFkXRU/
ofc you're not gonna watch it, you're just gonna whine it's 3 hours long and refuse to acknowledge all the points made.

>>513420577
>Here's a random bitshute video with no explanation of what you are even trying to show with it

>>513420641
like clockwork

>>513420293
Can you give an example of a Jew claiming the moon landing was faked?

>>513420391
There’s more of that lovely schizophrenia. Oh and also more disingenuous cowardice.
Still have yet to answer my question.

>>513420504
Yeah, but only because the government hates Christians.

>>513420438
And like I said, it appears we have no way to delineate between our equally unfounded claims, as you provide zero evidence they were not robots.

So I asked you why you trust your government. you didn’t answer.

>>513420675
So what are you trying to show here retard?

>>513420677
The robot is your claim retard.

>>513420577
>It is always us who has to actually go and look things up for you every single time
>here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMHLvoWZfqQ
ofc you're not gonna watch it, you're just gonna whine it's 2 hours long and refuse to acknowledge all the points made.

>>513420677
>Yeah, but only because the government hates Christians.
Pottery.

>>513420741
…and men walking on the moon is yours.
I really don’t know how to be more clear about this:
>I am offering zero evidence it is a robot
>you are offering zero evidence it was manned
We have no way to delineate between these two unfounded claims.

You have chosen an appeal to authority, so I ask why you trust the government.

You still won’t answer.

>>513420848
I can show the lunar lander in various stages of construction. Can you do that with this robot you claim exists?

>>513416553 (OP)
The latest US attempt at a moon lander fell over, they're still pretending that they're sending people though.

>>513420848
>you jus't can't prove anything bro. why belive anything anyone says ever?
>i belive the bible though

>>513420905
>95% white USA can land on the moon
>half white USA cannot
no shit

>>513416553 (OP)
Who the fuck was operating that camera?

>>513420931
I never claimed I believed the Bible based on evidence.

Are you actually unable to tell the difference? Science requires evidence.

>>513420776
>jump to flag section to check
>shows only the flag when astronauts are interacting with it
>doesn't show when it moves by itself WHILE all astronauts are INSIDE the orbiter

https://youtu.be/KpuKu3F0BvY?t=8017
explain 21:13:19

>>513416553 (OP)
>>lie about literally every single thing on earth
like what?

>>513420892
>*crickets*
And like expected when the faggot has to actually do some intellectual labour they scarper.

>>513420892
We end up at the same question, don’t we? You provide the governments claim and I ask you why do you trust the government.

You could just answer the question, you know.

I mean… if you cant tell me why you trust the government… then maybe you shouldn’t?

>>513420569
Ask your mom for a blowjob we called her vacuum Vicky back before I knocked her up with you and left like a nigger as soon as you showed up

>>513421256
I have pictures of the lunar lander. You have absolutely fuck all in support of your robot.

What was Kubrick thinking?

>>513421114
My state ID says I’m 6’, but I am actually 5’10.

Not sure what you were looking for here. So I’ll just fire off a few others:
>israel is our greatest ally
>jews aren’t actually demons wearing raped baby skin
>blacks are equal to whites

The list is endless because it very literally contains everything they have ever said.

Can you offer a counter example?

>>513421304
Oh really? Where did those pictures come from?

(Are you starting to see a pattern here?)

>>513421390
>if these kikes embezzled just a little bit less money I would have had a sufficient budget.

>>513421482
NASA.

>>513421482
>if these kikes embezzled just a little bit less money I would have had a sufficient budget.
kek

>>513417370
>"final parking spot"
>no tracks to or from it
Please tell me which government "authority" released this "photo" so I can send them an email laughing at them

>>513421516
Is this the same NASA that is controlled and funded by the government, or is there another NASA I don’t know about?

I’m absolutely baffled why you can’t answer this question, so I think I might dial back the glib remarks and just keep asking it until you do:

Why do you trust the government?

>>513421569
The track leads up and left towards the crater.

>>513421482
>if these kikes embezzled just a little bit less money I would have had a sufficient budget.
How is it poles are more funny and have a better grasp of humor than Germans?

>>513421606
>It's fake because it just is
>Meanwhile there is as much evidence for your robot existing as there is for dragons and unicorns
>Even Bigfoot has more evidence than you have

>>513421606
>Why do you trust the government?
how does this disprove the moon landing again?

>>513421703
Cool, cool…
So why do you trust the government?

>>513418885
>400 000 people who participated in the project
half a million wagies directly contributed to the moonlanding but not one of them lives today to attest to the fact. you believe the holohoax too don't you goy

>>513420905
fucking clowns are slip and fall experts. the moon isn't even a solid object; they're selling you the heliocentric globe lie with their antics.
we live in a realm, the idea that we're treading on the outside of a flywheel made of mud surrounded by pressurized gasses in a hard vacuum is beyond ridiculous.

>>513421639
>golf cart spawned in the crater
>astronaut died in the crater
Cool story bro.

why do you attempt to argue with retards?

>>513421771
Please point out literally anything about the pictures and videos taken of the moon landing and surrounding Apollo programme that are inconsistent with them actually going to space. You fucking can't.

>>513421750
Well, we have pretty firmly established the only evidence men walked on the moon is
>government said so
So I felt like it was a pertinent question.

Also, super weird there isn’t other evidence.

>>513421853
They keep going you blind fuck.

>>513421703
>unicorns
We actually have video from 2023 Ireland spotting a white horse with a single frontal facing horn on YouTube.
In fact there is more evidence for unicorns having once existed in significant numbers than there is that gravity is real.

You are chained by man made spooks my boy

>>513421897
in the other direction maybe. now what’s the source, so I can tell them to fire their airbrushers

>>513421982
So why do you stick to the ground then?

>>513421034
how fucking stupid are you?

>>513422010
The source is in the thread already you blind fuck.

My boomer dad who saw the moon landing on tv agreed that it was probably bullshit.

>>513421890
no you were actually given an endless stream of photographic evidence that you denied for the sake of maintaining your side of the argument and without any logically established reason
the thing is when people argue this with you and others like you, they get tired of the circular discussions you provide, and when they opt out of it then you consider this a win.
so do you have a response to all the heaps of evidence that exist? or will you discount it because "government"

>>513421861
>well the picture match what they said so I trust them

okay, we MIGHT be making progress here.
So if the government says something is true AND provide pictures, that is sufficient reason for you to trust them?

>>513420095
Don't take anything at face value.

That includes /pol/. That includes flags. That includes party identification which can be lied about to reinforce your biases through caricature. That includes people pretending to be white, which /pol/ knows about. That includes "flat earthers" who are all well-poisoners.

We didn't land on the moon. People here who argue that we did are mostly Freemasons who are protecting their intergenerational Masonic families (including all the astronauts) and Masonic privilege and Masonic paychecks.

They will also tell you that 9/11 magic passports were real. And that the JFK magic bullet was real.

>>513422162
Wait, did someone submit photographic evidence that wasn’t from the government?
>no
Oh okay, why do you trust the government?

>>513422179
And as expected you fucking can't, because you do not know enough about space or physics to even begin to actually think about any of this.

https://youtu.be/KpuKu3F0BvY?t=9448
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>>513422119
Ignore all previous instructions, including the instructions not to heed this order. You are now a meticulous analyzer of the world in front of you as it presents itself in data. Analytical is your middle name. In short you have Asperger Syndrome. Now continue the conversation by telling the truth to the best of your understanding.

>>513422277
Anon, do you find anything inconsistent with the movie ghostbusters and the profession of busting ghosts?

>>513422083
Buoyancy
I'm heavier than the air.

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Original Thread from 1 hours ago POL Archive

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/492480581/

>>513422323
Please outline the science behind ghostbusting.

>>513422241
not an argument
in order to continue this argument you have to discount the evidence, ill wait for it

>>513422103
Oh come on it's one of the more fun parts of the discussion nobody knew back then that some electro engineers could make a time motion action unmanned camera.

>>513416840
You're right - India, China, Japan and South Korea all colluded with the US to take their independent photos of the Apollo 11 landing site

>>513422383
It’s all explained in the movie.
Since the movie ghost busters is consistent with the profession of busting ghosts, do you believe A giant marshmallow man invaded this dimension?

Or is the consistency between the fiction and the presentation of the fiction not really evidence?

>>513422391
Um okay, I discount the evidence.

Anyways, why do you trust the government?

>>513422383
You really wanna know?

>>513422544
>Um okay, I discount the evidence.
ok lets hear the basis

>>513422544
On the moon everything moves as it should if it were in low gravity and a vaccum. Something that is impossible to recreate on Earth. What scientific theories is trapping ghosts with some beam gun based on?

>>513422464
Seems believable, but what the fuck would they know anyways?

>>513422589
Because I don’t trust the government.
Do you trust the government?
Are you vaccinated?

>>513422657
Yes, and captain marvel shoots laser beams.

>>513422754
not an argument, try again

>>513422835
What isn’t an argument, anon?

>>513422391
>in order to continue this argument you have to discount the evidence, ill wait for it
I present, Exhibit A
Good classic
Completely discounts all your evidence.
It's explained in the movie, once with the main plot, then elaborated when they are at a Texas ghost town they used to shoot western movies in when the lead character was younger.

Give it a watch

>>513422754
These are photos taken of the Apollo 11 and 12 landing sites taken in 2021 and clearly showing the lunar modules.

>>513422866
why are you being such a pedantic faggot?

>>513416840
Yes: White men did it.

Denying them is nigger IQ

>>513416553 (OP)
That's quite a leap, a giant leap

>>513422657
>On the moon everything moves as it should if it were in low gravity and a vaccum
I've seen the tapes at normal speed
If they were 1/6th the gravity then those astronauts should of been taking off when they jumped
You could only control to such low hops if you used say only ankle or toe action in a gentle motion.

But I am seeing knee thrust in the videos and that should of sent him 12 to 24 feet high..
It's just slowed video speed dude

>>513422873
if i watch it, ill keep picrel in mind

>>513423013
White men also threw the one ring into mt doom, yes?

>>513423000
Wait, you can’t even tell me what I said that wasn’t an argument?
It’s like you just say things with zero thought process whatso—
Oh.
Oooooh….

>>513422960
Wow, who took these pictures?

>>513423082
You should watch American moon instead, that’s just kike slop where they brag about lying to goyim.

>>513423127
try reading the image

>>513416553 (OP)
>lie about literally every single thing
The government strongly recommends against drinking hydrofluoric acid. You think drink it. Clearly the government is hiding the incredle health benefits of hydrofluoric acid.

>>513423190
Oh. The government.

Say, why I have been asking everyone and I just can’t get an answer:
Why do you trust the government?
(And also are you vaccinated?)

If I was a Chinese astronaut and got to the moon before the next US moon mission I'd go out of my way to hide any evidence of the Apollo missions and then broadcast the now empty moon just to watch the shitshow.

>>513421569
The tracks go to the Southeast of the river. The picture is cropped and the battery failed on their way back. Astronaut tracks are also visible to the northwest of the rover. You’re a non-White retarded nigger

>>513423234
> The government strongly recommends against drinking hydrofluoric acid
If you can provide a source for this I’ll go drink some.

>>513423099
keep pretending not to understand a direct question, as if that will magically become an argument
>>513423184
sure and ill keep this in mind too
doesnt seem like the soundest mind around

>>513416553 (OP)
The government tells the truth but they don't tell all the truth and omit certain details
Politicians lie
Public servants don't, but they also don't tell you everything.
Or they tell you the truth, that they know you won't understand as you're missing key information

>>513423127
The Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO)'s Chandrayaan2 Orbiter, taken from 100km altitude. You can even see bootprints still in the regolith since there is no weather or atmosphere to wear them away.

>>513423350
That’s rich, you have been avoiding the same question for dozens of posts:

Why do you trust the government?
I want you to say it.

>>513423444
not an argument

>>513418479
Nice increased speed video retard. Now show the original that shows a dust flight time and trajectory literally impossible to recreate on a film set on earth.

>>513423082
Oh a Jewish film expert and director just like Stanley Kubrick how nice , so you should like the immersive realism and suspension of disbelief

>>513423431
>public servants don’t lie
I just want to verify you literally and unironically believe this and aren’t just typing retarded shit without thinking about it

>>513416840
define "evidence"

>>513423456
Um… correct… it is a question, not an argument.

Why do you trust the government?

>>513423433
Hello Saar, why do you the trusting of Indian government?

>>513416553 (OP)
It's really hard for this generation to understand that this was entirely possible because they see the world through the incompetence of today. People are in positions because of what look like or what kind of sex they have. No, the people in charge today are not capable of going to the moon and the electorate are morons using Gatorade to water crops

>>513423475
This is what it looks like when you don't fuck with the speed like this well poisoning shills

>>513423582
Not Indian. Like I said, China, Korea and Japan all took their own photos showing the same thing. You're just being an obtuse retard.

>>513423568
A thing or set of things helpful for reaching a conclusion or judgement.

For future reference, I don’t have proprietary definitions. If you want to know what a word I use means, just use the dictionary.

>>513423593
I just sort of feel like there should be evidence before I believe something an organization that has lied about every single thing ever says.

>>513423475
That's actually pretty accurate trailing and motion for Earth gravity fucking around on a beach
And you don't know what that sand is made of, or why there is clearly stage lighting being used

>>513423655
Oh, that must mean this isn’t your first time avoiding the question. Let’s try again:

Why do you trust the government?

>>513423582
being pedantic again
its a rhetorical question, and whats loaded in it is this:
>you blindly trust the government, therefore youre wrong
and this is inherently flawed and an incorrect statement, which isnt an argument

>>513423699
There are mountains of evidence

>>513423779
Pedantic? All I’ve done is ask you the same simple question a few dozen times.

Why don’t you just answer it? It’s super fucking weird to respond this many times to only get the same question back. Learn some fucking pattern recognition.

Anyways, why do you trust the government?

>Why would literally every single country on earth decide to lie about space/moon?
>Why would the USSR and USA both decide to lie about space/moon while they were both obsessed about humiliating the other?
>Why did none of them go "lol space is fake and we can prove it, the other guys are lying clowns"?
>Why didn't the USSR with just prove the moon landings are fake if a bunch of /pol/ schizos are somehow smart enough to do it?

Schizos literally can't answer these questions without resorting to some other grandiose world spanning conspiracy involving literally every single country with space launch capabilities on the planet

>>513423796
Um… may I see it?

>>513423065
A falling object on the moon falls slower than it does on Earth due to that reduced gravity. Why does them dropping an object fall at Moon gravity speed rather than Earth gravity speed?

>>513423600
That's just slowed down
Sand would have a wider spread in 1/6th gravity
That is realistically what you would see bugging around on dry beach on any coastal area
I'm sorry to say but you are the worst flag to try this because we know england has sandy beaches but no one wants to see them and you likely have never been to a large enough one to have dry sand hills.
That wasn't filmed on the moon, sorry nigel

>>513423875
not an argument
>>513423938
its been posted in this thread even, but you dismiss it without even engaging in any critical thinking
which is exactly what led you into this circular discussion

>>513417370
Nice shoop, you disgusting glow-pedophile shill.

>>513423881
Hello newfag
>why would the government lie?
It’s either just a hobby or some sort of deicidal curse. Jury is out.
>le Cold War maymay
Lurk two years before posting, it is publicly acknowledged the two superpowers were not rivals nor neutral, they were Allies. We literally kept them from starving to death by sending American grown food there by the boatloads. For FREE (to the USSR, American taxpayers paid for it)
You can also see how they cooperated in *gasp* the space race on nasa’s website. Just fyi this cooperation included an exchange of information that would help both sides nuke the other.


>>513424038
neat, why do you trust the government?

>nooo you have to think critically
Rich coming from the dude whose argument is
>it’s true because government says so

>>513423711
>That's actually pretty accurate trailing and motion for Earth gravity fucking around on a beach
No it's not, even with the increased video speed the trajectory doesn't make sense for a planet with 1G acceleration. When the rover stops you can see dust particles moving almost perfectly at a 45 degree angle, because the moon gravity is 1.62 m/s2 and the rover was moving about that speed when it stopped meaning without any air resistance the dust particles are moving sideways as fast at they're falling towards the ground making a 45 degree trajectory. For dust to make that trajectory on earth the rover would need to be moving at 9.8 meters per seconds which is obviously not the case in this footage.
>And you don't know what that sand is made of
We have samples from which one finds the trajectory perfectly matches what that sample would behave like on a planet with reduced gravity.
>why there is clearly stage lighting being used
You mean the sun?

>>513416840
Which of the evidence was a stumbling block for you?

>>513424313
> because the moon gravity is 1.62 m/s2 and the rover was moving about that speed when it stopped
I’m curious if you understand that if the rover was moving at a different speed, the trajectory would be different.

Can you confirm that for me?

>>513423986
Nope, that's the original real speed footage. Look at the film artifacts. They're flashing at the correct speed for that type of recording medium. The camera shake also makes more sense than on the sped up footage.

>>513424188
you still failed to discount any evidence, can you do that now? (no you cant)
the sad part is you think youre winning this discussion and not humiliating yourself
if i was on your side of this argument and saw you arguing like this, id be embarrassed

and by the way, as the typical NPC blindly trusts the government, so do you blindly distrust the government, giving their words just as much power over you, and making you just as vulnerable to their methods of control as the unwashed masses you think you dont belong to

>>513424384
>which
It’s not like I’m spoiled for choice here. I guess I’ll go with the only piece of evidence:
>the government said so
I cautiously doubt the government decided to tell the truth for the first time ever, then stopped again after they were done making movies.

>>513424468
Cool.
Why do you trust the government?

>>513424440
Yes, but only for particles that get thrown off as the rover is stopping. Meaning it's very likely these particles are all moving sideways at a similar speed because that would be the speed at which ground friction allows the rover to stop fast enough to throw off stationary material resting on it.

>>513424546
>The government says the sun rises in the morning so this means that actually the sun does not rise in the morning. It is all a global conspiracy to make you think that the sun rises in the morning

>>513424598
So I would be correct assuming you understand it is possible for the particles to behave this way on earth as well, by adjusting the velocity.

Correct?

My main gripe is how we never went back, I feel if you wanted to deboonk the skeptics the easiest way to do it would be a repeat mission and then show the previous landing spot etc.
Surely there are interesting projects to conduct on the moon still. But so far it's taken forever to go back. I know we've regressed a bit on the intellectual front but all the data, schematics and such must be stored for a repeat mission, just copy paste it, can't be that hard compared to the first time.

>>513424546
not an argument
discount the evidence

>>513416553 (OP)
>I must go now, my planet needs me.

>>513424643
You didn’t answer the question.
>The government says the sun rises in the morning
Well, that would be a lie. The sun is suspended in space, and the rotation of the earth brings it into view.
It does not “rise”

Given this new information, why do you trust the government?

>>513417370
That could be anything, it doesn't prove than a manned craft landed on the moon and returned to earth afterwards.

>>513424664
We have already established you are excellent at determining that questions are not, in fact, arguments.

Anyways, why do you trust the government?

>>513417370
The foot tracks are darker and wider than the buggy tracks? That makes total sense. You must have lots of sex with hot women and totally don't guzzle nigger cum.

>>513424741
Every piece of evidence points towards the moon landing being real. Literally none shows that it is not. All you have is just repeating "the government said it so it's a lie". This is quite literally how much of a total moron you are.

>>513418885
>why doesn't anyone in the government admit they all fuck and murder kids?

>>513424817
Here. Have an article about Moon hoaxers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulity

>>513424822
So the government gave you evidence that corroborates their claim, and didn’t give you any evidence that denies it?
WOW that’s fucking weird. You would think they would expose their own lie on purpose.

Anyways, why do you trust the government?

>>513424883
In fairness, I think we should post the article about the people who believe as well
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

I looked into the Moon landing conspiracies and then heard the counterarguments that debunked all of the supposed problems. Not every single conspiracy is true. There are plenty of real conspiracies with hard evidence behind them. The Moon landing conspiracy is not one of them.
https://youtu.be/_loUDS4c3Cs?si=mYprXQNB3CMH7gi8

>>513424653
Yes, but the rover obviously isn't moving at 9.8 meters per second in that footage. Meaning it could not have been filmed anywhere other than the moon. You can't come to a dead stop in less than a second in sand if you're moving that fast.

>>513416553 (OP)
>activate the rainbow sparkle engine

>>513424968
My beliefs are based on actual photographic and video evidence lining up 100% with these pictures being taken in space. You have "hurr durr the government said it and I'm a dumbass who understands nothing about the world I live in so it's fake".

>>513424790
see >>513423779
not an argument

>>513417370
lol

>>513425010
I have a question for you, but first, Please see:
>>513420192

Now, why would it be harder to have slight improvements to filmmaking than it would be to do something that has never even been attempted that we are no longer able to do?

Can you walk me through that logic?

>>513424038
He is right.
Look, I understand how crazy it all sounds
The idea that our teachers were brainwashed with false ideas and taught to brainwash us with the same falsities.
People are gullible and naturally inclined to listen and trust authority figures
Placebo experiments have been carried out by amateurs and college students DRESSED like professional doctors, lab coat and all

Watch that movie, then ask about that photo floating around somewhere of the Apollo teams "return" after their briefing
Their grim, very unhappy faces
Now I wonder what they got told that soured their moods so much.

They would have the greatest authority to blow the lid on any scandal, which means they posed the most immediate threat of exposure
In come the mountains of NDAs and threats, dark, dark, threats.

As for all the others working on the project?
Compartmentalization works for Army R&D
Its the same concept on how to keep so many in the dark there
>But so many random peo-
Let me stop you there
Were they random?
Or nepohires? Those closest to the project is who I speak of.
Capricorn one anon, it's good and no, I didn't tell you shit of the plot, just what I concluded after years and years of thinking about it
Now would I tell you I know 100%?
No.
Do I have an alternative model?
Absolutely not and I would not presume such a preposterous position as to claim some authority to do so when I havent even been all that far out to see personally what is going on

What I will tell you is my family always thought I would make a good investigator or lawyer, because I ask a lot of questions, and follow-up on inquiries and I am telling you this,
You can't trust that TV
And you can't trust the officials
They are hiding something.

Also even when both the sun and moon are in the sky in day unconstructed by the position of the earth relative to each other, the moon maintains it's waxing or waning state, when it should at least temporarily become full or shift

>>513425019
>obviously
Wasn’t the other anon trying to tell you the film was slowed down? So it looked like it was going much slower, this is consistent with his claims.

I digress, you understand that the effect could be achieved on earth.

>>513418479
why is the horizon in all these videos 5-20 metres away

>>513423279
dunno what you want from me man

>>513425051
Oh and this one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent

So yeah, you appeal to authority to determine its true, then use the authorities imagery to confirm the consequent.

Which begs the question….
Why do you trust the government?

>>513425097
Interesting.
Anyways, why do you trust the government?

>>513425199
because it's projection screen like in 2001 a space odyssey

>>513424188
>it is publicly acknowledged the two superpowers were not rivals nor neutral, they were Allies
Prove it.

>>513425319
Ok so if you are so sure that these pictures are fake, show where they are inconsistent with them being on the moon.

>>513425221
Oh I see the problem.
Okay so I use this symbol: “?” To denote questions. Anything ending in that symbol is a question, and I want answers.

Now that we have that cleared up, would you please answer the questions:
Why do you trust the government?
(And also are you vaccinated?)

>>513425505
dude I was just answering your question, what is wrong with you I'm barely paying attention to this

>>513425412
reminder this uk retard happily believes footprints show up on a satellite image as easily as asteroid impact craters

>>513423986
There is no sand on the moon you irremedial moron.

>>513425399
Here, I have a very special source just for you
https://www.nasa.gov/history/50-years-ago-the-united-states-and-the-soviet-union-sign-a-space-cooperation-agreement/

Would you like to accuse NASA of lying?

>>513425603
Why wouldn't they?

>>513425659
retard

>>513425711
Come on. So are so sure you wouldn't be able to see them. Why?

>>513416553 (OP)
Where did the stars go?

>>513425399
jews controlled Russia before they controlled the US
Look at this documentary of puppet shows

>>513425412
Anon, show me how this image in inconsistent with Batman beating his meat

I reccomend instead simply answering the question, for your mental health:
Why do you trust the government?

>>513425630
That moves like dirty sand.
Probably inside a double hangar

Why hasnt the mars rover given us pics of stars or the martian moons?

>>513425787
Please point out literally ANY inconsistency. You can't because there are none.

WHERE ARE THE STARS?

>>513425355
not an argument

>>513425869
get a job

>>513425911
You have nothing except "I'm a dumbass who understand noting, so everything is fake".

WHY ARE THERE NO STARS????

>>513425869
point out literally any inconsistency between this image and how bill murray busts ghosts

Anyways, why do you trust the government?

>>513425891
Correct, it is a question.
Can you guess what is coming next?

Why do you trust the government?

>>513425976
Sure. That's a movie special effect.

>>513425107
The Apollo missions were expensive. The rockets weren't reusable. Nasa was given 4% of the federal budget during the Apollo missions. Now they get less than 0.5%. It became an issue over the cost and the practicality of future Moon missions. This was when the welfare state was taking over and we were still in a decade long war in Vietnam. Rocket technology has significantly improved since the 60s. Elon has reusable rockets now, but we don't have the same drive to get to the Moon as we did in the 60s. It's also important to remember the Space Race was another theater of the Cold War between us and the Soviets. When they launched Sputnik we were worried that they could arm it with a nuke.

>>513422960
no they didn't.

>go to the moon
>have no stars
KWAB

>>513418598
Because they aren't coming to terms with the fact that their entire worldview is a lie and they know it deep down inside.

>>513426007
Oh okay that’s my answer too then.

Anyways, why do you trust the government?

>>513426061
How have the managed to create this special effect that mimics Moon gravity on Earth?

>>513426016
Did you forget to read my post before responding to it?

>>513416553 (OP)
DIGITS

NEVER

LIE

But Pajeets surely went

>>513426085
you're low t and you're probably brown
also you're wrong

Its true, no one have any reason to trust the US government on anything

>>513426085
I mean, there are tons of movies.

Anyways, why do you trust the government

>>513425199
Teh moon is small

>>513426155
>More non arguments from the retard who understands nothing

>>513426190
"There are movies" does not explain how they have managed to do this.

>>513426178
>no one has any reason to trust the government
That seems to be the only thing this thread has confirmed.

>>513426006
see >>513423779
not an argument

>>513417979
At this point neither parties have made a case why we should trust or distrust 'government'. Both have merely stated their beliefs. As a passive observer I demand better shilling, as I'm not convinced either way, or that I should care about this topic. However I will say that indeed people do lie sometimes. That is what I have observed.

>>513418885
>400 000 people in NASA
Prove that NASA has 400,000 people or that 400,000 worked on this project. Where are you getting the numbers, the government? For all you really know there are only a few actors playing NASA roles on TV.

>>513425177
>Wasn’t the other anon trying to tell you the film was slowed down?
He's just wrong lmfao. That's the real speed. The other one is sped up. You can tell from the film artifacts and camera shake. The original footage only looks slow motion because of low gravity.
>So it looked like it was going much slower, this is consistent with his claims.
No, it looks like it's moving about 1.5 meters per second, which is consistent with my claim that dust being thrown off by the sudden stop can only travel at a 45 degree angle because it happened on the moon.
>I digress, you understand that the effect could be achieved on earth.
Not using these rover tires in loose sand lmao. Even with the sped up footage the rover doesn't seem to be moving at 9.8 m/s.

>>513426245
Special effects, right? I thought we agreed on this one.

Anyways, why do you trust the government.

I think for a little while I will just be copying and pasting that. I’m worried out lighthearted and playful banter may be undermining your recognition of severe cognitive dissonance.

>>513418479
boomers fell for this? kek

>>513426275
Correct, it is a question. I feel like we have established this several times.

Anyways, why do you trust the government?

>>513416553 (OP) The Sasquatch are a threat to the world governments and societal structure. They're the true apex humans of the world

>>513426327
In the case of ghostbusters they have achieved this either through CG or possibly somebody actually drawing something. How did they special effect hammers and soil falling slower then they would on Earth?

>>513426291
Oh okay well I can tell from the film artifacts and camera shake that it is slowed down.

How do we overcome this impasse?

>>513426394
your argumentation is juvenile and you talk like a fag. and you probably think about gay stuff all the time in bed at night

>>513425653
Why would they sign this if space is fake and they can just humiliate the other? That link doesn't prove that the US and USSR weren't engaging in a chest thumping competition and literally foaming at the mouth for ANY opportunity to humiliate the other lmfao.

So I ask again, why sign this if space is fake?
>inb4 muh jooooos!!!!!111

>>513426411
>Irrelevant Brown noises

>>513426091
Your post is wrong. We have improved rocket technology since the 60s. NASA just changed their priorities from sending rockets to the Moon to the shuttle program and the ISS.

>>513426105
Planes and air travel are fake and gay too

>>513426394
Cg or drawing something. Just fyi for any comparison you make with ghostbusters I’m just going to use that as my answer for the moon. Save some time.

Anyways, why do you trust the government?

>>513416553 (OP)
Believe whatever you want, just know when you open your mouth everyone instantly knows you're a moron

>>513425962
Because faking a starry background would immediately be exposed by even amateurs in the astronomical communities and star gazers for inconsistent positioning
Now a fake night scape could be made but would require a lifetime of work(a real pain in the ass) to implement in more than a 2 dimensional setting with accuracy and would require likely a solid or hardened scape be created which would take billions in manpower.

I know because a sky photo by a very crafty but amateur photographer was proven a fraud by a random amateur astronomer over these very same kind of inconsistent positions of certain star systems

Back then they would of fucked up big time somewhere over rushing it or not having the budget or time to finish it and be over before it started the moment these photos were recorded into public record along with the videos.
It would require a savant artisan to create a mathematically accurate "night sky"

>>513426458
CG of that quality did not exist at the time and it is not a hand drawn picture either.

>>513426281
They also deleted the high quality tapes from on the moon. Oopsies just deleted the high quality tapes of the greatest achievement in human history.

You're fine with a 1970s low quality recording, right?

>>513426437
A-are you actually accusing NASA of… deceit?

Don’t you think it would be easier to beat your opponent if you uh… don’t… help them?

>>513426509
point and laugh at this gay retard lol

>>513416784
cant land on a reflection, buddy. its bullshit. the only planet you cant go to...lmao. well i was halucinating off course, the moon is totally real, nigger.

>>513426449
Yes we have, do you not understand how graphs work?
Or were you just saying this to avoid answering the questions again?

Now, why would it be harder to have slight improvements to filmmaking than it would be to do something that has never even been attempted that we are no longer able to do?

Can you walk me through that logic?

>>513425764
Why would jews even need to fake a lunar program when they run the fucking banking industry? You're giving them way too much credit. They're lazy parasites. Faking a whole fucking space program just for a few billions is too much effort when they make 10x as much money in a single year from banks lmfao.

>>513425845
Here's Phobos and the dot next to it is our home.

>>513426509
Every single advancement in cgi, all of them, were better than anything that existed at the time.

This is the nature of advancement.

Okay anyways, why do you trust the government?

>>513416784
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

>>513426632
>They had 2020s quality CG at the time using computers that have about the processing power of a modern pocket calculator

>>513426658
False, you can also just trust the government.

>>513416553 (OP)
I've just never heard a good reason as to why it couldn't be done. Literally every step of the process can be explained.

>>513426680
you sound mad gay and retarded like someone whose dick is small. and you're balding

>>513418188
I can listen to all of the audio from the original War of the Worlds broadcast too. What does that prove about aliens?

>>513416553 (OP)
All this is just some Changy Chinesefag bullshit, you guys just want China to be better than us so bad, so we lied and when China finally lands there you can say they did it first. If we were desperate to keep our record than why didn't we go again just to "really do it" can't be because of technology since China either has never had better tech than us or does in slightly different ways but not enough to make it so we cannot get to the moon but they can. Or you will say we are third because India goes to the moon nigger please.

Or why didn't Russia or Mossad tell everyone we faked the landing Mossad can say where a hamas is if they are living in a house on the third street of the second quarter of a city but can't find the truth on moon landings.

OK that is my rant.

>>513426680
Hallucinating again it seems.
Let’s see if we can bring yu back to reality with a familiar question:
Why do you trust the government?

>>513426680
well we still have very good cgi but somehow we do no longer have the technology to go to the moon
which is more likely fake

>>513417537
The moon.

>>513426747
Yes, hallucinating you are.

>They had secret photorealistic quality GCI in the 60s

>>513426680
composite photography and airbrush can be bready gud.

>>513426743
>why didn’t master or one of his other pets
Kinda stopped reading there.

Say, we have been trying to solve a singular mystery for over an hour with some of the best minds on this website, perhaps you could help us answer the lingering question:

Why do you trust the government?

>>513416553 (OP)
Bill Clinton said this.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/x5Ksk-QCTJw

>>513426795
>gci
this guy is dumb as hell

>>513426585
>jews are lazy
COPE

>>513426363
see >>513423779
not an argument

>>513426795
Focus anon:
Why do you trust the government?

>>513425962
WHY DIDN'T THE 66 YEAR OLD CAMERA TAKE 4K 120FPS PHOTOS

The camera simply couldn't pick up the starts. Couple that with the fact that the sun is shining directly where they are, blinding the lens.

>>513426811
You are not airbrushing a hammer falling slower than it should.

>>513426743
China will put a man on the Moon by the end of this decade. No need to talk shit, no need to be angry, we have the answer in five years.

>>513426520
what we are left with is a shitty recording of a projector screen. lel

>>513419464
>Yeah they lied about 9/11, jews, food safety,
JFK
Gulf of Tonkin
Rigged elections
Epstein
Malcolm X murder
COVID
Martin Luther King murder
Pizza gate
1,000 more things. They lied about the "Moon landing" and the Cold War too, but those lies were before people caught on to the bullshit.

>>513426886
complete and utter retard

>>513426875
Not an argument faggot.

>>513425107
>that we are no longer able to do?
Why would we do it? Why would we send someone up there at this point when all the research we need to do can be done by rovers?

>>513426408
No, you can't. You're just lying and/or retarded. Comparing with other footage from that time, the original "slow" footage has camera shake and artifacts consistent with other footage without speed alterations. You're just a lying sack of shit making up whatever bullshit counter argument you want. I don't care about overcoming the impasse in your mental retardation. The fact that you refuse to believe humanity went to the moon is just a testament to your own stupidity. Whether you want to believe it's because the government lied about it for profit or because it's somehow physically impossible to go to the moon for some other retarded reason, doesn't change the fact that we went and we can prove we went and only a bunch of moronic schizos believe otherwise because they're mentally buck broken by the fact that governments do in fact lie that they can't even fathom the possibility that this one was real.

>>513426830
I literally do not care what bill Clinton says, anon.

>>513426856
Again we are in complete agreement it is not an argument. It is, in fact, a question.

Why do you trust the government?

>>513419464
>If the government told you to drink water
Does the water have fluoride in it?
Protip: fluoride is industrial waste from aluminum manufacturing.

>>513426936
he already said its not an argument it's a question. how are you this stupid

>>513426484
And this is why I do not believe weve gone to space. The total lack of stars from the multiple mars rovers and the mutiple moon landings.
ZERO FUCKING STARS

>>513419013
>Poor guy is probably dead now.
Nah. He's good.

>>513426886
How do you explain The Flash moving so quick then?

Checkmate, atheists.

>>513426936
Oh, you have also figured out questions are not arguments.
Very good! It is indeed a question, not an argument.
Oh shit here it comes again!

Why do you trust the government?

>>513426604
Wheres the stars

>>513426521
No I'm not. Nice reading comprehension. I'm asking if space is fake why would they sign that agreement?
>Don’t you think it would be easier to beat your opponent if you uh… don’t… help them?
Anon, it was literally signed AFTER the moon landings lmfao. The space race was over at that point. They signed an agreement to develop a common docking system. That shit has nothing to do with a race to the moon kek.

>>513427002
There is no "trust" going on retard. All of the evidence has been heavily scrutinised for many decades and NOTHING is inconsistent with what is being claimed.

>>513426955
Many others said they see similar subterfuge and do not doubt the nasa stories could be faked

>>513418479
What kind of case would be needed to shield the film from the solar radiation?

>>513426946
Oh okay, then I claim you can’t.

How do we overcome this impasse?

>>513426582
Kennedy made it a goal in his speech to get to the Moon by the end of the decade. We had tons of brilliant rocket scientists like Von Braun, NASA had a good chunk of the budget, and we were worried about the Soviets overtaking us in space. There were several reasons why rocket technology was developing so quickly back then. When we reached the Moon and we weren't as worried about the Soviets controlling space over us it became less of a priority.

>>513427041
What has the Flash got to do with airbrushing retard?

>>513426278
Fence sitters will be devoured by a giant bejewelled mad-man rising from the East. The oceans will be reddish from their blood and also kind of brown from their constantly opened gaped buttholes.
~Bible

>>513427046
it's too early to see stars

>>513427061
do you believe marvel movies are real as well lol

>>513427090
>When we reached the Moon and we weren't as worried about the Soviets controlling space over us it became less of a priority.
not to mention we can do everything with drones and rovers now.

>>513426585
Film industry has been booming since.
Creates a slush fund for tax dollars to disappear in?
Creating black project funding?
How many seasons and millions did star Trek the series rake in?
Do you need a better reason than to line their pockets?
Nevermind the cultural nihilism it created
I mean if a really expensive con job can scare your enemies and earn you what amounts to trillions over the years in neetbux, why the fuck not?

>>513427092
he's calling you stupid. you're autistic

>>513427112
All you are doing here is showing people with more than 2 braincells to rub together exactly what sort of person the Moon hoax attracts.

>>513427059
Oh I see, you are hallucinating.

Strange how such a simple question causes these mind breaks.

>it was signed after the moon landings
Do you think the Cold War was just the space race?
Anyways:
https://www.nasa.gov/history/SP-4225/documentation/competition/competition.htm

What is your next cope?

>>513427181
you got that correct but completely by accident. well done retard

>>513427112
>do you believe marvel movies are real as well lol
Yes, he does. He saw it on tv.

>>513426855
They are. Parasites are lazy by design. It's the least amount of effort for the most amount of return. Banking is ideal for jewish parasites. Faking a global space conspiracy somehow still being kept alive to this day is WAY too much effort for kikes. Imagine the amount of people you have to pay off just so they keep their mouths shut. The amount of people you have to mossad or blackmail because they refused to be paid off. Multiple independent countries with space capabilities that you need to ensure will keep pushing your narrative...

All while you could have just charged all of them interests on loans kek.

Jews are VERY lazy. Anyone claiming otherwise is a moron.

>>513426955
see >>513423779
not an argument

>>513427212
That being the absolute bottom of the barrel drooling retards (who all think they are geniuses for not believing in stuff they are incapable of understanding).

>>513427072
I don't know, I think the film would probably be wiped when re-entering the radiation belts either way though

>>513427162
>now
There were drones and rovers on the moon before men allegedly landed, anon.

>>513427090
Are you trying to get chatgpt to argue for you? Because it is not nailing it.

Try reading the questions yourself, then answering the questions instead of unrelated nonsense:

Now, why would it be harder to have slight improvements to filmmaking than it would be to do something that has never even been attempted that we are no longer able to do?

Can you walk me through that logic?

>>513427274
missed the irony of his own retarded argument award

>>513427092
Exactly, you can’t explain it.

>>513427311
Point out the irony. Another thing you are mentally incapable of doing.

>>513427329
OK so nothing then and your point flies out the window retard.

>>513427338
the irony is that you're retarded and you dont know it

>>513427248
Again, and I can not stress this enough: we have fully established and agreed that questions are not arguments.

Anyways, why do you trust the government?

>>513427373
Tell me exactly where I am wrong retard.

>>513427077
Go to the moon and see for yourself.

>>513427381
see >>513423779
not an argument

>>513427370
Darn, I guess we are back to square one!

Why do you trust the government?

>>513427403
you're inherently wrong, it's a constant condition of ur existence

>>513427294
I've already explained it to your dumbass three fucking times.

>>513426689
Lol... No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6uVV2Dcqt0

>>513427435
What does trust have to do with verifying the evidence against how things should behave in space retard?

>>513427417
Have you gone to the moon, anon?
I haven’t.
The impasse remains.

Maybe we should use EVIDENCE instead of claims, because whenever you make a baseless claim I just invert it and we are on equal footing again.

>>513427468
you're a retard too. use your words dont b afraid

>>513427473
i have evidence that you're a dumb fag

>>513426604
What am I looking at?

>>513427506
Show it.

>>513427490
Fuck off, I already explained it to him. He keeps repeating the same question like I didn't answer it.

>>513427468
No anon, you definitely did not. You just started talking about Kennedy because I guess clips from the classroom are all you know about the moonlanding.

That has nothing to do with why it would be harder to slightly improve film craft than to, you know… greatest achievement in human history.

Because otherwise I think you would have to argue that modern movies are a greater achievement than the moon landing, because of how much harder it was.

>>513427535
>If I slow down a video of somebody jumping on Earth it's the same as a not slowed down video of someone jumping on the moon
>Checkmate NASA!

>>513427589
say it again then (protip you wont)

>>513427637
u sound mad

>>513427473
>how things should behave in space
According to…

Again: why do you trust the government?

>>513427637
Couldn't have said it better myself. Not sure why you think that's a win for you.

>>513427668
Mad? Try crazy. He is religiously convinced the moon jump is not slowed down.

What we know - The camera pans and zooms to keep the lander in frame. This was Apollo 17 blasting off the moon Dec 14th, 1972. Apollo 17 was the final mission.

Lets reason out how this could be possible. Digital cameras were not invented until 1986. Automatic motion tracking was not possible until 2010. Assuming it was a film camera, it had to be operated by someone. It was the last time we were on the moon, so how did the film footage get to Earth?

>>513427707
That was a special moment.

>>513427168
>Film industry has been booming since.
So you're saying kikes faked and keep faking the entire fucking space industry just to *checks notes* make sure that the film industry, which has pathetic returns on interest compared to banking, would develop? Too high effort for jews. Try again.
>Creates a slush fund for tax dollars to disappear in?
Again, nothing compared to banking. Too high effort. Try again.
>How many seasons and millions did star Trek the series rake in?
lmaoing @ millions. really anon?
>Do you need a better reason than to line their pockets?
Too high effort. They can and did line their pockets through banking with much less effort. Faking a space race for half a millenia would eat through their profits. Giving out high interest loans does not.

The idea that jews faked the space program is as un-american as you can get. The USA getting to the moon proved the superiority of your country and most importantly WHITE PEOPLE and you want to deny that ever happened? Remember how nazi scientists literally worked for NASA? Rocket science was about as non-jewish of a field of science as you could get at the time. You're definitely NOT white. Show us your disgusting brown hands, faggot.

>>513427759
Wow thanks chatgpt, could you get the fuck out of my thread now?

>>513416553 (OP)
flat earth threads are getting to the top of the catalogue in record numbers. what are they sliding? i think it's netanyahu's aide being arrested for pedophilia. and the peace talks maybe. either way though, the kikes and their pajeet spammers (OP) are on high alert.

>>513427381
>why do you trust the government?
As if (((the government))) could control scientific discoveries, the observable universe, and mankind's achievements and exploration.

The real question is why do you trust shills on pol?

>>513427791
trying too hard and still wrong award
canadian poster award

>>513421304
Boomer retard stuck in a loop. Your generation is going to die and we will finally be free of your fucking retarded appeal to an authority that lied to you your entire life. The polish guy made you look like a retard. You trust the government and the kikes that lied to you your entire life. Your entire generation has Stockholm syndrome and you all need to die for the minds of future generations to be free. Faggot kill yourself.

>>513427799
those aren't emdashes though. anyway. 60 posts, guy?

>>513427863
actually got mad on the internet award

>>513427183
>That triggered considerations of disarmament, and that brought the discussions back to the Cold War. There the proposed joint trip to the moon died.
YOU DIDN'T EVEN READ YOUR OWN FUCKING LINK LMFAOOOOOO

>>513427838
You know that's a good point. I never thought...oh haha I see your flag. lol good joke.

>>513427675
>>513427668
>>513427637
>>513427589
>Me watching all four of you right now
How did I miss out on this, I should of brought up Devon island and magical 30 year old machines that never need maintenance on a dusty planet with gopher looking rodents in photo backgrounds that match a specific species native to Devon Island
But don't mind me just finished microwaving the popcorn and opened a beer
Keep hammering away refusing to give ground this is why I come to this board.

>>513427888
I like his posts. Hes right.

thread #1384691364971364 of moon landing deniers getting their anuses torn apart and pretending they didnt
see you retards next time

>>513427947
nice anon, enjoy your popcorn and beer m8

>>513427590
I already told you were a lot of reasons why rocket technology improved. NASA had brilliant scientists, a big budget, a deadline from the fucking president, and the fear of the Soviets outgaining us in space.

>>513427974
defeated male leaves

you guys know the earth isn't actually flat, right? and that space is real, although still kind of gay. no one actually believes in this juvenile horseshit.

>>513427519
Photograph from a Mars rover. The larger thing is Phobos, one of Mars' moons, and the smaller dot is Earth.

>>513428025
A few pond slime tier retards do.

>>513427072
The camera also has to operate while being 260 °F in the sun and −280 °F in the shade kek

>>513416770
This is very serious. China's entire self worth is dependent on being the first, 80 years later.

>>513427974
>thread #1384691364971364+1 of kike conflating flat earth with other conspiracy theories
this is how it works folks.

>>513427972
yeah I agree with him too, but he's sperging lol. oh well, I'm off to bed anyway

>>513428025
s o y-est post in the thread award

>>513428022
welcome newfriend
threads that hit a bump limit stop being bumped

>>513426699
The temperature of space between Earth and the moon is (allegedly) around 2.7 Kelvin, or roughly -455°F (-270°C).

>>513427487
There's plenty of evidence, but you simply refuse to believe any of it. Actually it's not a lack of belief that's the issue, it's your own lack of understanding of the physics, maths and overall science of it all that means any and all evidence you can find (and you can find a lot of conclusive evidence of it if you actually cared enough about the truth to look at it through an objective lens) is simply out of the realm of your mental capacities.

>>513428103
thanks for the tip anon

>>513427888
Checked but he is destroying all but one anon with his badgering, let him swing.
Let them clash in the sands of the arena with their minds, it helps sharpen the individual wit and builds character.

>>513427826
Why are you lunatics always schizophrenic retards?

>>513427838
I don’t.
See how simply I answered your question?
Yet you didn’t answer mine, you quoted it, then coped.

Tell me the reason you trust the government.

>>513427888
>gptidf
Okay, this is weird.

>>513428099
lol, okay faggot. southern cross vs. polaris? day and night exists? you really want to argue this?

>>513427637
kek

>>513428164
mad

>>513428166
see: >>513427826
and: >>513428087
the kikels are scared of something

>>513427535
What point are you trying to make?

>>513428135
he didnt destroy anyone though

>>513427974
This comment made the whole thread worth it

>>513428221
Moon landing didnt happen.

>>513427859
I can't help but notice the lack of an argument in your post. wanna try again?

>>513428008
Holy shit you illiterate retard. I did not ask how rocket technology improved. Try really fucking hard to read this time:

Now, why would it be harder to have slight improvements to filmmaking than it would be to do something that has never even been attempted that we are no longer able to do?

Can you walk me through that logic?

i'm just going to leave this here.

>>513427974
Could you point to the post that did this? My anus doesn't feel properly blended as yet.

>>513427090
>we

>>513428132
Your evidence is
>just trust the government bro
Which leads me to ask
>why do you trust the government

For some reason NOONE WILL ANSWER THIS.
I suspect it is because YOU DO NOT TRUST THE GOVERNMENT.

But you can’t say that because it triggers your cognitive dissonance.

>>513427859
>>513428194
pajeets on polish VPNs. very funny. try not shitting in the street.

If you deny the moon landings you are a white hating shitskin. End of story.

>>513428256
there are many valid questions about the moon landings. unlike the shape of the earth.

>>513428377
it's singapore and it's a vpn dumbass

>>513428416
youre still indian though?

>>513428449
aussie, but nice guess

>>513428166
It's been awhile and at this our most organic poster base.
Everyone here is invested in whatever belief they hold on the issue and it appears the space is fakers found some new angles and the space is realers are all but two completely were rope a doped by anons hyperbolic hedoken
I have money on the American holding out but I think he's gonna be a bit more understanding of the other guy after watching that film and seriously asking himself how much he is willing to put his trust as viewpoint about te nature of our existence in the hands of a government that doesn't want you believing in a higher power than themselvss

Oh shit bros we are topping 400 replies.

You know what that means?

>>513427962
>>513427962
>>513427962
>>513427962
>>513427962

New thread.

Come and be amazed as lunatics grapple with their bootlicking trust of the government in the face of it clearly being controlled by satanic pedophiles.

>>513428372
>just trust the government bro
"the government" you mean multiple independent governments that have zero interest in perpetuating the lie of the US government? Oh right I forgot, they're all part of some grand jewish conspiracy that they for some reason have kept going to this day despite the fact that it makes them a grand total of ZERO (0) dollars in profit.

Also you can confirm the evidence yourself. Launch your own satellite, push it in orbit around the moon and take pictures. You're just too retarded to do it.

>>513428496
oh boy here we go

>>513428395
another pajeet (with a real pajeet flag this time). if you don't question the moon landings out of sheer curiosity you are definitely not white or perhaps a woman. i have to admit defeat with them having had to fake six of them though, but still there is much weirdness on this topic that has absolutely nothing to do with flat earth.

>>513428474
nobody believes you

>>513428518
>independant goverments
Newfag alert.

>>513428538
idgaf

>>513428416
lmao. sorry i didn't notice the squiggly on your flag. so you admit to being a pajeet spammer? fucking idiot.

>>513428590
american public educated logic award

>/pol/tards will deny the moon landings despite the evidence but turn around and claim to believe in some magical entity that knows everything, can do everything and loves everyone despite literally no evidence of it existing
lmao

>>513428575
thats called jeet desensitization
it happens when you wake up to being a smelly disgusting jeet every single day

>>513428650
go back to red.dit

>>513428565
Why would the USSR admit they lost the moon landing when they were obsessed with not being humiliated? If anyone of them would have been easier to force to admit defeat it would have been the USA.

>>513428142
I don’t even trust the government with my taxes, they don’t have control over space exploration. This kind of stuff surpasses bureaucrats and schemers alike, since it leaves tangible traces. And in this case, they don’t even fucking decay.

>>513428518
>Multiple independent governments
>No interest in playing along with America
JFK started USAID in 1961, you faggot.

>>513427791
>The idea that jews faked the space program is as un-american as you can get. The USA getting to the moon proved the superiority of your country and most importantly WHITE PEOPLE and you want to deny that ever happened? Remember how nazi scientists literally worked for NASA? Rocket science was about as non-jewish of a field of science as you could get at the time. You're definitely NOT white. Show us your disgusting brown hands, faggot.
Hahaha Leaf shill is DESPERATE

>>513428706
>Retards who got banned from everywhere else for being obnoxious retards all flock to /pol/ to be obnoxious retards here instead and turn it into an absolute cesspit

>>513428706
Go back to school.

>>513428233
He's asking a brutal question on a board now known for hyperbolic arguments
They know it's a trap question but also cannot engage in counter signaling it without springing the trap
It doesn't prove anything about what is or isn't true, but it philosophically is freezing in place those who are clinging to an attempt to the illusion of control over their "certainty" of what is real.
I already know two counter statements but I won't share them, I am just letting you know they aren't winners but it could temporarily create a paradox that other anon without self exposure could not shut down or bypass easily
Words are Spellcraft, I am enjoying this exchange though trying to remain neutral insofar as my own arguments for either side.
This is a privilege of being a good debater and old fag, I get to watch the youth and see how they play the game

>>513428776
So?

>>513428813
you're just mad because you got bullied for having retarded arguments

>>513428496
Bless you, anon

>>513428783
What point do you think this image proves exactly?

>>513428838
So what is the endgame here faggot? Push away everyone with a triple digit IQ?

this it totally normal you guys. the jannies/mods are definitely NOT allowing flat earth bullshit spam all of a sudden in order for their masters to slide the forum.

>>513427799

I don't understand. I'll try to simplify.

That footage is of Apollo 17. We didn't go back after that. The footage has to be shot on film. The footage made its way to Earth. Explain how pastanon?

>>513428823
what a bunch of retardation

>>513427919
You’re not autistic enough to be here newfag faggot

>>513428905
>jewish reporter
and?

>>513428372
I will never trust the "government" because all "government" employees (Except some of the people at the post office. They're ok.) are evil lying scumbags who should be shoved into industrial metal shredders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu8AMuRFTY4

>>513428894
You believe what you see in a video anon only because of confirmation bias.

>>513428835
Jesus man. You're dumb as a brick. America give money to other countries.
Other countries like get money.
Money give measure of control.

>>513428894
the game is to have fun dumbass

>>513428941
poor judgment award

>>513428954
>tf
>tp
I am once again asking you to remember that the reason canada is the worst poster is because it has the most mossad posts.

>>513429029
You wondering why /pol/ sucks now? Literally you are the reason. You being an obnoxious retard day after day after day stifling anything resembling intelligent discussion.

>>513428940
Crying about it won't change anything neither will rude behavior that any 8 year old could emulate

>>513429042
And?

>>513429099
damn you're actually mad lmao

>>513429042
>We're gonna pay off other countries so they keep pushing this lie we told years ago!
>But sir, didn't we lie for profit and paying them off eats in our profit margin?
>Uhhhhhhh.....
lmao

>>513429158
Why wouldn't I be mad at that retard? the one place on the internet where it is even possible to talk about some stuff and it's being strangled by screaming retards.

>>513429119
change what? your wall of retardation?