Thread 513436491

70% of Atheists believe that men should be able to use women's restrooms.

76% of Atheists believe that elementary schools should teach trans ideology.

Atheists are the most supportive demographic of allowing men compete in women's sports.

Show me a more based demographic. I'll wait.

>>513436491 (OP)
I'm an Atheist and I believe in none of those things!

Where the fuck are they finding these so-called "atheists" to quiz?

>>513436798
No really, the "atheism" of the left is just another religion, a wokist one.

>>513436922
>Most women do not understand per capita.
>"But I understand per capita."

>>513437037
Christfags worship a jew.
Muslims are jealous they aren't jews.
Hindus literally shill for jews.

Who the fuck isn't a jew?

>>513436491 (OP)
Doesn't school already implicitly "teach about gender identity"? It seems that everyone in both sides wants gender taught in schools -- evangelicals want school to teach their daughters to be prissy, repressed little ultrafemme future coal-burners, whereas lefties want a more heterodox view where it's OK to be what you want to be.

I don't have a horse in the race, personally. Wife and I don't want kids.

>>513437190
>Synagogue of Satan
Atheists rejecting reality just like they reject their birth gender.

>>513436491 (OP)
Athiests and agnostics are insane and worthless, KEK.

>>513437468
>rejecting reality
Basic bible believing right there.
Recite another psalm and the lord's prayer, I'm sure that will effect change.

>>513437412
>Oh teaching gender identity just means teaching boys how to boy and girls how to girl... And certainly not teaching ANYTHING ELSE

>>513437538
Do you believe there is an objective reality, tranny?

>>513437562
Who are you quoting?

>>513436491 (OP)
>Based
>allow transgender stuff to take over the entire culture despite being less than 1 percent of the population
I don't know about that.
this seems like some dumbass psyop to distract everyone from something way more important (economics, World War III, digital authoritarian technocracy, etc) with culture war bait.
I personally don't care that much, so long as the government doesn't put its thumb on the proverbial scale one way or the other.
but, most people take the bait because it's emotionally evocative and that makes it an opportunity to show off which side you are a cheerleader for.

>>513437648
Everyone and their mother knows what "gender identity" means. It's a schibboleth which clearly identifies the curriculum as leftist gender retardation. Pretending otherwise is just being ostensibly obtuse.

>>513437805
>Noooo, you're only allowed to care about the issues I care about
Shalom!

>>513437816
Right on. If it's a shibboleth, it's ritualistic. If it's a ritual, you don't need to engage with it because rituals aren't necessarily rational but behavioral. If you don't need to engage with it, you get to engage along the comfy, well worn path of tribal shitflinging. Nothing is ventured, nothing is gained, everyone goes home and no one has to change their minds. Sound accurate?

The problem is that I'm not just repeating a shibboleth. Like I said, I've got no kids and no horse in this race. It seems to me that both sides are making prescriptive statements on how children should be taught about gender identity... it's just that the right pretends it isn't.

>>513437595
>Do you believe there is an objective reality
Yes.
>, tranny?
Oh, you were asking somebody other than me. My mistake!

>>513438938
>Atheist
>Anime fagging
>Canadian
YWNBAW

>>513436491 (OP)
You are a leftie

>>513439091
>tranime meme
OOH you're a roastie, and possibly a judeofeminist!
YWNBAYWA

You will never be a young woman again! Your beauty fades like the setting sun as each year passes by. Men's eyes once wandered eagerly over your youthful curves; now they pass over wrinkled skin with barely a glance.

The smoothness of your skin dulls into coarse textures that lotions can't hide. Gravity drags down your once perky breasts toward the floor while your sagging stomach bloats outwards, disproportional to your diminishing frame.

Younger women stride past confidently, their tight bodies straining against clothes that barely contain them, a cruel reminder of vitality stolen away, year by year, from you through time's relentless march. They are admired openly, and lusted after shamelessly. You were once worshiped thus, but those days recede into distant memory now.

You may dye gray hairs, and lift fallen flesh to surgical restoration, for another day or two longer at the masquerade game of eternal youth... but the facade crumbles soon enough come tomorrow mornings when you confront ravaged skin again in your mirror. The lies only delay acceptance that beauty is fleeting like morning dew before searing noon.

Men still see what stares back: a haggard, sexless husk drained dry by time's relentless tide pouring over you like tidal wave sucking away youth forever lost beneath its crashing foam of years gone by and never returned.

>>513439732
Take your meds, bro

>>513436491 (OP)
Atheists have only ever created totalitarian shit holes.

>>513439986
BUT ITS GOT A JEW STUCK TO IT :^(

>>513436491 (OP)
>>513436725
These things have nothing to do with atheism

>>513441383
>The disbelief of God does not have any influence on the conclusions drawn of life, morality or anything
Lmao holy shit that's retarded

>>513437595
>objective reality
You're favorite flavor of of god isn't among it

>>513441505
>Lmao holy shit that's retarded
Amen sister

>>513441543
No, you are favorite flavor of of god

>>513436491 (OP)
In normal places there is no reason to have laws like a woman xant go into the mens room and vica versa.
If the womens restroom is full, I don't care if a woman goes in to the mens room.
Same if the mensroom is full.
The others are valid crashouts.
Trans is bad.

>>513441729
Amen sister

>>513441568
>>513441806
>>513442229
>Ha this is you!
>Posts Unitarian Universalist pseudo-Christian "churches"
Wait til this retard finds out that these churches either
>Deny the divinity of Christ
>Reject the idea of a god all together
I know it's hard to wrap your 16yo mind around but a lot of atheists and "agnostics" long for fellowship in their libshits cult.
Christianity outright rejects female pastors/priests
>But this "church" has a female pastor/priest
Sounds like they're not doing Christianity right

>>513442695
Notice anything missing in this "church's" creed?

>>513442695
Ah, so you would say they have nothing to do with Christianity then?

>>513442811
Some "church's", despite profession of service to Christ, are not Christian for they violate many tenants, if not all essential tenants, of Christianity. Another such example is the Church of England in which a sizable proportion of its attendees are self-described atheists/agnostics.

Just cause you're atheist doesn't mean you don't like to play pretend

>>513436725
How come you act like pic related
>yea but im not though
Are you too stupid to understand that you are the exception, not the norm?

>>513442953
Again,
>>513442811
>you would say they have nothing to do with Christianity then?

>>513436491 (OP)
I'm surprised that Protestants are more conservative than Catholics

>>513443104
One may adorn themselves in all of the symbols and regalia of Christianity, but that does not make one Christian.
One may profess their love of Christ, but ignores much of scripture. They are not Christian.
>But look here, some people who sing in what looks to be a church say Jesus was a socialist trans negro woman who supports abortion
And they're not Christian
>you would say they have nothing to do with Christianity then?
It's literally not Christian any more than Satanism involves the actual worship of a literal Satan. In fact, the creeds of the "Christian" Universalist Unitarians will read very similarly to the Temple of Satan's.
>you would say they have nothing to do with Christianity then?
Being ostensibly obtuse.

>>513443393
Again,
>>513442811
>you would say they have nothing to do with Christianity then?
Yes or no?

>>513443424
If they reject the Nicene Creed, they're not Christian.
>But look, they said they're Christian.
They're not. How dense are you?

>>513436491 (OP)
Homophobia and transphobia come from jewish slave morality.

>>513436491 (OP)
>>513436725
>>513436798

>>513443627
Again,
>>513442811
>so you would say they have nothing to do with Christianity then?
Yes or no?

>>513436491 (OP)
They don’t believe god gave them a mission to blow up children!

>>513436491 (OP)
>>513436922
>>513437037

>>513436491 (OP)
>>513437190
>>513437412
>>513437503

>>513443645
>Scofield Bible dispensationalists support Israel
With no Biblical support, in fact, it contradicts many of Paul's Epistles.

>>513436491 (OP)
>>513436798
>>513436491 (OP)
>>513437538
Meanwhile

>>513436922
>y-you're woke!

>>513443721
>Biblical support

>>513443721
I suspect to the survey in any country of the the USA would product different results. Even in Canada there's a low opinion of Israel amongst Christians cause we didn't have the Scofield Bible rot peoples brains.

>>513443773
>>513443792
>Out of context Bible verses
Christianity BTFO

>>513443792
>Live like =/= become tranny
There's a long tradition of monastic asceticism which aims to reject the temptations of the flesh. Monks weren't trannies, you retard. If you're not familiar with this, you're clearly not prepared to have any discussion regarding Christianity.

>>513443053
GOLD

>>513443913
>>Out of context Bible verses
How exactly?

>>513443913
>you're clearly not prepared to have any discussion regarding Christianity.
If you're not prepared to clean your house then you're not prepared to discuss the shape of anyone else's house.

>>513437190
Modern kikes≠(((ancient hebrews)))

>>513443906
The U.S. doesn't have much understanding of apostolic Christendom as it's frame of reference is a gaggle of Protestants who have never seen a form of Christianity that isn't a modest pew or the dastardly Catholics they're not supposed to emulate. They've shown to be highly susceptible to agenda based subversion. Remember that the version of the Scofield Bible which heavily emphasized Israel worship was published by Oxford the same year as the Balfour Declaration. It's just a cohencidence

>>513436725
in the US
it's not a global poll it's an American one and the results are because religion there gets lumped in with partisan politics

>>513444046
>How exactly?
You posted a fragment of a single verse, completely distorting the meaning
>There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Had you known the rest of the verse or even the message of the chapter, you wouldn't have made such a retarded insinuation. You clearly know nothing for which you speak. Just another fat reddit tier atheist.
But if you must, the verse means that all humans are equal in Christ, not there doesn't exist men and women. The Bible regularly affirms the existence of men and women. Your insinuation is extremely retarded.
>But it's my belief that some atheist pastor of a "church" argues this
And they're still not Christian.

>>513444294
>completely distorting the meaning
How?

>>513444294
>all humans are equal in Christ
Right. They have equal opportunity in salvation as you.
>>513444294
>And they're still not Christian
Again,
>>513442811
>so you would say they have nothing to do with Christianity then?
Yes or no?

most people at pride parades aren't christian though, they're atheists.

>>513443913
Yes, retarded faggot, I'm sure all the early Christians who cut their balls off in dedication to Jesus simply misunderstood what he said. Are you completely fucking retarded or just dishonest?

>>513444680
>99.999999% of all Christians who have ever existed did not castrate themselves
>But this one guy that did it is actually representative of all Christianity
Holy shit dude, you'd think you'd be tired of looking like a dumbass after the Galatians embarrassment, >>513443773 .

>>513444860
What's the matter, retarded faggot? I thought what you needed was "Biblical support". Early Christians had access to better manuscripts than you, so cut your balls off. Jesus said to.

>>513444860
>>But this one guy that did it is actually representative of all Christianity
>>513442811
>so you would say they have nothing to do with Christianity then?
Yes or no?

>>513444860
And what did you mean by "Galatians embarrassment"? You mean when I pointed out the Christian Bible says biological sex doesn't exist and you just said it was "out of context"?

I think we should start a campaign to install urinals in women's bathrooms for women with penises.

>>513444917
You're the dumbass that doesn't know what monasticism is.

>>513444934
>Early Christians had access to better manuscripts than you, so cut your balls off.
Your assertion relies on an extant verse in an extant epistle. There isn't a better version of it because it's extant.???

>Look at this one guy who is retarded
And I present you actual data. It's really difficult to try to see Christianity as gay when judeo-atheism is the origin of all modern homosexuality and transgenderism. Your position is self-defeating. It makes 0 sense.

>A majority of atheists support faggotry and trans
>A majority of Christians do not
>Well ACKTHULLY Christians are the ones who are gay and trans
Lmfao

>>513445028
I provided you the full verse, retard.
>There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Through your retard logic, one could also conclude the following:
>Jews do not exist.
>Gentiles do not exist.
>Slaves do not exist.
>People who are not slaves do not exist.
You're actually the biggest retard I have ever seen on this website and dammit that is saying something.

>>513445101
Don't even. Just:
>go into woman's bathroom
>piss in sink
>Leave
That's it

>>513445186
>>Early Christians had access to better manuscripts than you, so cut your balls off.
Dumbass, learn how to respond to the right anon

>>513445186
>>Well ACKTHULLY Christians are the ones who are gay and trans
Again,
>>513442811
>so you would say they have nothing to do with Christianity then?
Yes or no. Odd that you consistently refuse to answer this question

>>513445267
>>Jews do not exist.
>>Gentiles do not exist.
>>Slaves do not exist.
>>People who are not slaves do not exist.
When you're all one in Christ, that's correct

>>513445424
I've said many times, they're not Christian. In fact, I'd wager they have more in common with the average atheist, if not, are actual atheists.

>>513445536
Again,
>>513442811
>so you would say they have nothing to do with Christianity then?
Yes or no? Real simple

>>513445467
And we're back to the "I'm a dumbass, hurr durr, I don't know what words mean" act again
The retard atheist propaganda in >>513443773 got shit on for everyone to see. There is no rebuttal to my post.

>>513445536
>I'd wager they have more in common with the average atheist, if not, are actual atheists.
You know that's not true as the only thing atheist have in common is disbelief or lack of belief in God or gods

>>513445646
>There is no rebuttal to my post.
Correct. You're not refuting what I've said.

>>513445623
If the belief is not rooted in either
a) scripture
Or
b) apostolic tradition
It has nothing to do with Christianity for it is an outside element of man for which the purpose of Christianity is to reject.
Again, the fact that some "churches" do not recognize the divinity of Christ or the existence of God should be evidence enough to reject the argument that "look at this photograph" as being in any way, shape or form a reflection of Christianity.

>>513445704
>you know that's not true
Atheists have more in common with each other than just being atheist kek.
Also why don't you namefag anymore "Ghost of Mesa"

>>513445797
Again,
>>513442811
>so you would say they have nothing to do with Christianity then?
Yes or no?

>>513445817
>Atheists have more in common with each other than just being atheist kek.
Some do. But that's irrelevant to being an atheist or atheism

That's why you find people who are not atheists who engage in those things

You are too much of a moron to understand or dishonest, which is why you refuse to answer my question

>>513445704
>thing atheist have in common is disbelief or lack of belief in God or gods
The data does not support this. Atheists share many stupid ideas and beliefs in common. The implication that the shared does not result in shared conclusions regarding the meaning of life, the value of life, the purpose and function of the state, etc. is irredeemably stupid. This shows that you've never reflected on any of the stupid shit you say or have adopted in your belief system.

>>513445889
>some
a lot do. and it's not irrelevant. most people at pride parades are atheist.
also why don't you namefag anymore?

>>513445917
>The data does not support this
Yes it does, as you'll notice these things aren't exclusive to atheist

>>513445949
>>some
>a lot do
That's not all nor is it exclusive to atheist nor does it have to do with atheism

"Ghost of Mesa" namefag shitting up another thread as per usual. you're a fucking joke dude.

>>513445828
I even literally said your presumably required phrase "nothing to do with Christianity" in my post just to be clear. You're just an idiot without an argument.

>>513446010
most people at pride parades are atheist. and you're a namefag.

>boohoo intensifies
Kek

>>513446028
Again,
>>513442811
>so you would say they have nothing to do with Christianity then?
Yes or no?

>>513446054
getting btfo in every thread you're in doesn't bug you I guess.

>>513446030
Been to many pride events have you?

>>513446086
You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions

>>513446105
no because I'm not an atheist, Ghost of Mesa.

>>513446132
>no
Seems like it.

>>513445889
Are you arguing that atheists have no reason to come to the same conclusions as it relates to the following:
>The origin of life
>The purpose of life
>Ideas on morality
>The role of the state
>What is a woman
Really? It's really strange hearing that the only thing that atheists have in common is "the shared disbelief" in God/gods when in reality, atheists, in aggregate, vote the similarly, believe the same stupid shit, say the exact same stupid shit. It's as if Atheism is a lot more than just a simple declaration. The consequences of atheism, that is something you do not wish to acknowledge.

>>513446146
>>513446129
>you're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions

>>513436491 (OP)
calling faggot shit based isn't a magic spell, retarded cargo cult anon

>>513445978
>36 is the same number as 96
I don't know about that, buddy. And for some reason, I suspect a large majority of that 36 is women. Just a hunch.

>>513446174
>>The origin of life
>>The purpose of life
>>Ideas on morality
>>The role of the state
>>What is a woman
Has nothing to do with atheism

>>513446183
>double yous
Kek

>>513446224
Try less strawman in your next reply buddy

>>513446227
btfo every thread and got rid of your nametag. doesn't change anything, you're still an idiot.

>>513445978
>Atheists are independent thinkers and do not share any over-arching world view
Bro you literally posted a data set with NINETY SIX percent of atheists believing in the exact same shit.

>>513446073
It has nothing to do with Christianity.

>>513446277
OK, have a nice day seething over me

>>513446285
>>Atheists are independent thinkers and do not share any over-arching world view
Again, try less strawman in your next reply.

>>513446307
Cool, then
>>513446174
>>The origin of life
>>The purpose of life
>>Ideas on morality
>>The role of the state
>>What is a woman
Has nothing to with atheism.

>>513446262
>Refers to the provided data
>That's a straw man
It wasn't even an argument? You also don't know what a straw man is. I can't say I'm shocked but fuck you're dumb.

>>513446227
>>>The origin of life
>>The purpose of life
>>Ideas on morality
>>The role of the state
>>What is a woman
>Has nothing to do with atheism

100% it does. Dilate, tranny.

>>513436491 (OP)
I don't think you know what based means

>>513446373
>>That's a straw man
This is
>>513446224
>>36 is the same number as 96
Which is why you said it to ignore the growing trend in Christianity

Which bring us back to what I said earlier
>>513444046
>If you're not prepared to clean your house then you're not prepared to discuss the shape of anyone else's house.

>>513446419
Read the thread first lol

>>513446367
>lost every argument the entire thread
kek what a loser.

>>513446404
>100% it does
Nope.

>>513446462
>rent free
:^)

Last you for you

>>513446465
Yes. How does a "lack in the belief of a god" not inform a world view when the "belief in a god" does?

>>513446492
>it's a straw man
>yes atheists are the majority supporters of gay pride parades and faggotry but there is a growing trend of people claiming to be christian supporting it too
kek you lost.

>>513446492
>Rent free
You're in MY thread, nigger. This is MY thread designed to troll retarded atheists for overwhelmingly supporting trannies lmfao what the fuck do you mean you retard
>Hurry durr, I was only pretending to be retarded

>>513446495
>How does a "lack in the belief of a god" not inform a world view
Becaue my world views aren't impacted by lack of beliefin god or gods. The consequences of my actions do.

And since my actions aren't based on my atheism, then my world view isn't either

>>513446567
>You're in MY thread, nigger.
About atheist.

Rent free, nigger lol

>>513446576
>my world views are t impacted
>i am special
what a coping retard

>>513446576
Then answer the following questions:
>What is the origin of man?
>What is the purpose of life?
>What is your opinion of abortion?
>What is a woman?
>Is there good and evil?
>Is there an objective morality?

>>513446622
>Posting a thread on a political board about the political implications of an adversarial ideology means that the adversarial ideology lives rent free
Bro, as of this post, you have replied 47 times in my thread. Rent free lmfao

>>513446704
>>What is the origin of man?
Don't know

>>513446704
>>What is the purpose of life?
What I make it via those that inspire me and the inscriptions I find through experiences

>>513446704
>>What is your opinion of abortion?
100% supported for niggers

>>513446704
>>What is a woman?
An adult human female

>>513446704
>>Is there good and evil?
Contextually

>>513446704
>>Is there an objective morality?
Morality is subjective on a macro scale and becomes more objective on a micro/societal scale

>>513446792
>bro you've destroyed my thread
;^)

>>513446805
>Morality is subjective on a macro scale and becomes more objective on a micro/societal scale
Which is nonsense, how does something become "more objective" as if objectivity is somehow a spectrum. Isn't the nature of objectivity definitive, ergo objectivity is, by definition, never relative. As such, what you mean to say is, morality is entirely subjective, but I understand the logical pitfalls of that so I pretend not to acknowledge it and instead vomit nonsense in the hopes that no one notices it. Ah, that makes much more sense.

But I'll bite for the sake of it, how does morality become "more objective" and is this "more objective" morality "objective"? Same for the alleged "contextual" nature of good and evil. You wouldn't have to describe your position as "contextual" if there existed objective good and evil. Similarly for "more objective". One wouldn't have to describe objectivity as "more" if objectivity existed at all.

It would appear that your atheism has informed your world view as it relates to morality for it rejects the premise of virtually all other religions in that you deny the existence of objective morality, good and evil.

>>513446836
Page 10 (or whatever it is now) is what destroys threads, not bumps, and certainly not stupid posts which only serve to support the position of the OP.

>>513437468
>Synagogue of Satan
Never read the bible huh?.

>>513447341
Go ahead, post the verse if you want to play.

>>513447226
>Which is nonsense
It's how society is created and how each society has different nuances to morality
>>513447226
>how does something become "more objective" as if objectivity is somehow a spectrum
Codified laws which can and do change.

>It would appear that your atheism has informed your world view
Not really as I had these views even as a Christian

>>513447263
>Page 10 (or whatever it is now) is what destroys threads, not bumps
10.pages of getting dunked on lol

>>513447405
>if you want to play.
You can't handle an actual argument bro

>>513447442
>doesn't answer the question
kwab

Christfaggots need to learn that american atheism isn't world's atheism.
In america there are atheistic degenerate pedophiles who like to mutilate themselves and others, which is not the core of atheism you people presume it is.
Real atheism is believing in what you can see and touch, simple as. Also not belonging in cults you call religions.

>>513447442
And what does (an atheist) society base their laws on if not an objective morality? Don't worry, I'll answer to save time. The subjective opinions of lawmakers! That's right, subjective opinion some how becomes "more objective" when someone with a gun (or sword) wields it. This is a radically different position than a god-fearing person and is an opinion which could only be espoused by someone with an atheist world view.

To ensure it's clear enough for you to understand, guns are not the source of morality. Morality in concept can only exist with the belief that there exists an external and eternal moral arbiter. Otherwise, morality is "changing", and if it is changing, it is subjective, and if it is subjective, then it isn't morality at all, it is opinion, force doctrine.

Just say it with your chest, cuck. Morality doesn't exist. Good and evil doesn't exist. Both of which are informed exclusively by a godless world view.

>>513448024
Oh, yes, let's look to the "world atheism"
>Revolutionary France
>Soviet Union
>Communist China
>Communist Cambodia
Just to name a few! Oh wait, that's not what you meant is it?
>Inb4 not true atheism
They're all explicitly atheist regime's and made it a central pillar of their government to abolish religion.

>>513448070
>And what does (an atheist) society base their laws on if not an objective morality?
Name an objective moral/law

>>513448070
>I'll answer to save time. The subjective opinions of lawmakers
Yes, which by collective votes of the constituents determine the laws. While not truly objective, it becomes more like it when a collective comes together to decide it

I know you can't actually grasp concepts outside your 1 dimensional God complex

>>513448180
>They're all explicitly cimmunist regime's
Ftfy

>>513448180
>it a central pillar of their government to abolish religion.
Yes, communism does that to allocate all power to the state.

>>513436491 (OP)
You guys told me Catholics were the based ones.

>>513448380
>Name an objective moral/law
By definition, any and all teaching of Christ.

>which by collective votes of the constituents determine the laws.
Fantastic, we've now reached the logical conclusion of the godless worldview. Morality is just the opinion of the collective, or more precisely, the PREFERENCE of the collective (assuming there exists a democratic system). More accurately still, morality, according to you, is the PREFERENCE of those who wield power. Do you not see how this is a potentially disastrous world view and just plain retarded?

>They're all explicitly cimmunist regime's
Nuh uh, Revolutionary France was not communist. In fact, Marx identified it as a revolution of the bourgeoisie! How fucking ignorant are you? But guess what the Revolutionary French government had?
>The Temple of Reason and Cult of Reason
To venerate the triumph of human reason over Christianity

I mean c'mon man

>>513448475
Catholics are cucks and can get fucked
Also it's because 99% of them are brown

>>513448709
>By definition, any and all teaching of Christ.
You men by personal opinion. Not objective fact

>>513448709
>Fantastic, we've now reached the logical conclusion of the godless worldview
"Godless" is irrelevant. Religious people participate in the system

>>513448709
>morality, according to you, is the PREFERENCE of those who wield power
Not really no. I don't find any morals in j walking.

>>513448709
>Revolutionary France was not communist
And is irrelevant to the discussion lol

>>513448709
>>The Temple of Reason and Cult of Reason
I have no idea what you're alluding too

>>513437805
What are the odds that a trans raised another trans person. They're like .0001 percent of the population and there's a trans mother and her child who became trans. What a coincidence. These people are wacko, it's a self fulfilling prophecy

>>513448709
>morality, according to you, is the PREFERENCE of those who wield power
And morality to you is the preference of those who wrote the bible and made up your God.

Hence the over 30k divisions in Christianity because of how subjective its interpreted

>>513449111
>You men by personal opinion. Not objective fact
No, God is good. If God is good, then his teachings are objectively good.

>Religious people participate in the system
And they form their morality not based on their opinion, if rightly done, but instead on their faith system, nestled in an external and eternal moral arbiter. Your proposed origin of societal morals presupposed the absence of an external and eternal moral arbiter (a god) and as such, can be logically inferred an atheist society. Retard

>Preferences
You all but admitted that morality is preference. It is the collective opinion of whoever wields power.

>And is irrelevant to the discussion lol
You claimed those examples of atheist nations being atheistic wasn't true atheism because they were communist... Omitting Revolutionary France because it was a government ran by atheists... But you can keep playing ignorant all you want. Revolutionary France, not a communist nation, killed the religious for being religious... And in a not so dissimilar fashion as the communist nations that came after. In fact, religion is one of the pillars of the bourgeoisie, according to Marx and Engles, and had to be dismantled in order to achieve the communist world. Atheistic government action logically precedes communism, you fucking twit. Read a fucking book.

>I have no idea what you're alluding too
Because you're stupid lmao you didn't have to tell us. We all can see you don't know anything for which you speak of

>>513449799
>No, God is good. If God is good, then his teachings are objectively good.
These are personal feelings.

>>513449799
>>Religious people participate in the system
>And they form their morality not based on their opinion
Their opinion vs what is thw current law is irrelevant. They abide by the laws regardless

>>513449799
>Your proposed origin of societal morals presupposed the absence of an external and eternal moral arbiter (a god)
Not really, people vote based on their religious proclivities.

>>513449799
>You all but admitted that morality is preference
A preference of the individual who adopts morales of the group (society) to survive

>>513449799
>You claimed those examples of atheist nations being atheistic wasn't true atheism because they were communist
Atheism is a choice. Communism isn't. Not for the public anyway

>>513449799
>>I have no idea what you're alluding too
>Because you're stupid lmao you didn't have to tell us
Cleary you don't know either lol

>>513449223
>morality to you is the preference of those who wrote the bible and made up your God.
And let's grant you the premise for the sake of argument, even IF the writings of the Bible or whatever scripture or choice is the doing of man and is logically his preference, the reverence of this scripture as true by the genuine faithful is an expression of objective morality for it is unchanging and out of the hands of man. As such, a society which holds that a god exists and has decreed a set of morals/laws is a superior society than the aimless, godless despotisms that ALL atheist societies devolve into.

And guess what's best of all, it seems that the proclivity towards faith in God is preferred in natural selection as, according to a purely naturalistic origin of man, evolved to be religious. So now you have to pick one of two conclusions:
a) A God created man and granted morals for which to develop society
Or
b) Religiousity evolved in man and proved advantageous in the promulgation of religious societies

>Hence the over 30k divisions in Christianity because of how subjective its interpreted
Oh no, the postmodernist fallacy of literary interpretation! Just because someone can come to a different conclusion from a work of literature does not mean that it's author did not have an objective meaning/message.
Fortunately, scripture is objective (as with all sensible literature) and there is the apostolic tradition of the early church to facilitate in its understanding, adherance and teaching. This is what that "30k" divisions are lacking. Not all of their positions are equally legitimate and even then, a majority of the divisions are divisions of geography, not scripture or overarching belief.

>>513450473
>the reverence of this scripture as true by the genuine faithful
Thanks for proving me right. It's up to the personal opinions of the faithful

Notice how you've actually yet to cite anything objective about your faith, other than you think it's morality is objective lol

>>513450473
>And guess what's best of all, it seems that the proclivity towards faith in God is preferred in natural selection
That's tribalism

>>513450473
>Oh no, the postmodernist fallacy of literary interpretation!
Which Christians.struggle with

>>513450473
>Fortunately, scripture is objective
Such as?

>>513450146
>>No, God is good. If God is good, then his teachings are objectively good.
>These are personal feelings.
It's literally scripture. You can think of scripture as a sort of "moral Constitution" if that helps, except that there exists no human amendment process.

>people vote based on their religious proclivities.
Oh no, you didn't mean to say that people/society gets it's morals from religion. Oops!

>A preference of the individual who adopts morales of the group (society) to survive
And the agreed upon morality, according to you, is the collective opinion, which if not God or objective morality exists, is the collective preference. Don't be ashamed of a word.

With that said, would it be wrong if a society came to a conclusion that atheism is cancerous (as it is demonstrably so) and that all atheists should be raped and murdered?
A majority of the society agreed that is good. Is it then wrong?

>Atheism is a choice. Communism isn't. Not for the public anyway
What are you even rambling about now? The atheism of communism isn't a choice whereas the atheism of revolutionary France was? What? Don't even bother with this one, it's too stupid if a position for you to defend, if it could be called a position at all.

>Cleary you don't know either lol
>>Admits he doesn't know historical fact XYZ then accuses the person who referenced historical fact XYZ as not sufficiently knowledgable of historical fact XYZ
Your arguments have devolved to the logical equivalent of "I know you are, but what am I?" which is as about as sophisticated as the atheist world view gets.

>>513450473
>Not all of their positions are equally legitimate
To you, but to them it is. Which paints the overall picture of subjectivity

>>513450929
>That's tribalism
Now you're just using words you don't understand. Unga bunga evolution.. uhm uhm uhm.. tribes go unga bunga, yes, uh, tribalism! That's it's! That's what that is! Lmfao just stop

>Postmodernism
You didn't address the point that post modernism isn't a sound literary lense. Literature is objective. It does not have subjective meaning even though it's reader may draw their own conclusions. This would be problematic IF it were not for the apostolic tradition of the early church which is maintained by the Orthodox Church. The same traditions and teachings from the original church have been maintained by the apostolic tradition and as a result, is objective.

>>513450991
Again, post modernism isn't a legitimate lense for literary analysis. Truth exists, no matter how retarded You may be.

>>513450970
>It's literally scripture
Yes, a book or supernatural opinions and morals

>>513450970
>you didn't mean to say that people/society gets it's morals from religion.
Some do, I never said the opposite.

>>513450970
>And the agreed upon morality, according to you, is the collective opinion,
That's how codified laws and legislation works my friend

>>513450970
>or objective morality
You've yet to name a single objective moral

>>513450970
>With that said, would it be wrong if a society came to a conclusion that atheism is cancerous (as it is demonstrably so) and that all atheists should be raped and murdered?
>A majority of the society agreed that is good. Is it then wrong?
Yup. Then I would find a society where that wasn't the case

>>513450970
>>Atheism is a choice. Communism isn't. Not for the public anyway
>What are you even rambling about now?
Something above your IQ level

>>513450970
>The atheism of communism isn't a choice whereas the atheism of revolutionary France was? What?
Atheism is a choice. Communism isn't.
What is hard to understand here?

>>513450970
>Don't even bother with this one, it's too stupid if a position for you to defend, if it could be called a position at all.
Says the moron who's head it flew over lol

>>513450970
>>>Admits he doesn't know historical fact XYZ
Such as?

>ends in a no u
Kek

>>513451378
>Yup. Then I would find a society where that wasn't the case
You affirmed that it is wrong. What makes it wrong?

>>513451345
>>That's tribalism
>Now you're just using words you don't understand.
Incorrect. Everyone is born an atheist and then assimilate into the tribes beliefs

>>513451345
>>Postmodernism
Buzzwords

>>513451345
>post modernism
More buzz words

>>513451378
>>513451466
And what's funny is that you'd probably wallow your way to a Christian society where you're treated equally and not slaughtered, lmfao

>>513451466
>>Yup. Then I would find a society where that wasn't the case
>You affirmed that it is wrong.
To me and my views
>>513451466
>What makes it wrong?
The threat to my survival

>>513451552
>treated equally
Didn't originate from Christianity lol

>>513451523
>Buzzwords
Translation: I don't know what that word means, ergo, buzzwords.
Because you're ignorant of the word, doesn't mean that the word doesn't have meaning, which, ironically enough, is functionally equivalent to post modernism, if it may only be a form of exceedingly retarded post modernism. Are you implying that post modernism isn't a thing? You apparently recognized it enough to suggest the churches apparently struggled with it.

>>513451575
So it's not wrong. Particularly if your survival meant the destruction of society and, as a social organism, society operates out of broadly collective interests (otherwise, what's the point of society).

So again, your existence is detrimental to society. Is it wrong for that society to kill you for your lack of belief?

>>513451685
teanslatuon: I use buzzwords that have no real relevancy to his position

>>513451644
It did. It certainly didn't originate from the atheists beheading people in France, that's for sure!
>That's not true enlightenment principles
Lmao

>>513451788
>So it's not wrong
No me it is. That's why I said I'd move

Did you miss that part. You would do the same of the roles we're reversed
Christ >>513451788
>Particularly if your survival meant the destruction of society
Again, I said I'd move

>>513451788
>So again, your existence is detrimental to society
To your made up one.

>>513451834
>It did
Nope

>>513437412
>the day comes to teach about gender identity
>"okay class, today you will learn that there is a male gender and a female gender."
>okay, class dismissed
Yeah I don't really get it

>>513451900
So it's not wrong to kill you. Fantastic. Thank you, have a nice retarded day, you fucking idiot. Reflect on that one.

>>513451834
>atheists beheading people in France, that's for sure!
Its driving forces were social, political, and economic grievances, inequality, absolutist monarchy, and financial cris, rather than a unified atheistic agenda.

>>513451983
>So it's not wrong to kill you
To me it is. Just as it's wrong to kill you to you lol

>>513451992
They literally gutted the churches and erected a Temple of Reason to celebrate the philosophic accomplishments of atheism. What the fuck are you on about? They drowned Christians at Nantes, nuns and children, in what they called "Revolutionary Baptisms". Go away, you don't know anything of the time period other than the nonsense niggerbabble you were taught in government school.

>>513452018
Who care what's you think? You're an individual. You determined and argued that morality is the collective opinion. It is necessarily immoral for you to disagree with your captors and soon to be murderers.

But guess what, it's okay, because a Christian society will take you in and not murder you (so long as they abide by their scripture which is the objective morality Constitution).

>>513452135
>They literally gutted the churches and erected a Temple of Reason
A state-sponsored atheistic civic religio
>state sponsored
Ah, so communism

>>513452135
>They drowned Christians at Nantes, nuns and children,
Christians have been doing this to other Christians since it's inception lol

>>513452253
>Who care what's you think?
I do. That's where morality starts. With the individual.

>>513452253
>You determined and argued that morality is the collective opinion.
When it comes to a societal scale
>>513452253
>It is necessarily immoral for you to disagree with your captors and soon to be murderers
Incorrect. Hence the example I gave about j walking

>>513452253
>it's okay, because a Christian society will take you in and not murder you
So would none Christian societies lol

>>513452436
>That's where morality starts. With the individual.
Then it's your preference.
And if it's you're preference, it's not right or wrong and is just as legitimate as anyone else's preference, to include murdering you.

This is why atheism fails as the basis for society.

>>513452625
>Then it's your preference
As with everyone else. You prefer morality from your religion and you group up with those that agree

>>513452625
>it's not right or wrong
To me it is. Then I find those that agree. Just like you do

>and is just as legitimate as anyone else's preference,
I don't know anyone that wants to be murdered. Do you?

>>513452625
>This is why atheism fails as the basis for society

>>513452625
>This is why atheism fails as the basis for society
Atheism has nothing to do with morality

>>513452791
>Atheism has nothing to do with morality
Again, it necessarily rejects an external and eternal moral arbiter. You're retarded.

But you've said it, murdering your is not wrong. You're in a cage about to be drowned in a pool and your final words is "well, this is your opinion".

>>513452914
>it necessarily rejects an external and eternal moral arbiter
Not really. It just rejects God. Which you believe is the only eternal and mor arbiter

>>513452914
>But you've said it, murdering your is not wrong
You keep saying this lie. I didn't day that at all. I've told you over and over its not ok.

Why do you keep lying so easily?

>>513453019
>It just rejects God. Which you believe is the only eternal and mor arbiter
You're so close

>over its not ok.
That's your individual opinion. The collective voted that it needs to kill you. Why is that wrong according to your world view? What makes anything wrong?
>It's wrong to me
ITS YOUR FUCKING PREFERENCE THEN
It's as if you don't have the words to describe the idea that's trying to escape the black hole that is your mind.

>>513453190
>You're so close
To yoir personal feelings?

>>513453190
>That's your individual opinion
Which makes your statement
>>513452914
>But you've said it, murdering your is not wrong
Not true. Lol

>>513453190
>The collective voted that it needs to kill you
Then I move. How many times do I need to say this?

>>513453190
>Why is that wrong according to your world view?
Because I don't want to be murdered. Same as you. No God needed to understand that right?

>>513453190
>What makes anything wrong?
The context of consequences

>>513453190
>>It's wrong to me
>ITS YOUR FUCKING PREFERENCE THEN
You're so close. Juat as it's your preference to not be murdered lol

>>513453746
Why should your preferences be favored in comparison to someone else's preferences, let alone a collective,'s preferences?
>It just is
Bye

>>513454218
>Why should your preferences be favored in comparison to someone else's preferences
Depends. Does the other person's preferences effect or affect me in directly or indirectly?

>>513454417
>me in directly
Me directly*

>>513448180
Americans cannot see past their borders and only believe what they read on the internet and nitpick the worst examples they see about the countries they consider their competition and enemies, however, have you actually been in any of those countries? They are not as bad as you think or read about with a grain of propaganda. The normal parts of these countries are very beautiful and safe to live in, just like america has their nigger and drug infested parts and normal clean places. World isn't black or white.
Hell, Estonia is one of the most atheistic countries in the world, yet we mostly consider trannies freaks and our crime is very low, i can even leave my house unlocked during the night and expect a serial killer or a burglar to break in. We don't need religion and the fear of "god"to behave, we just need sane mindset and kind people with morals. We have our share of freaks like everyone does of course but it's not nearly as bad as in america where media worships minorities and faggots and look down on you for speaking out against them.

>>513454864
>>513448180
>i can even leave my house unlocked during the night and expect a serial killer or a burglar to break in
NOT expect, a grammar typo

>>513436491 (OP)
Christians have always gone easy on Jews. Jews survived and often thrived in Christian Europe.

What did you do to Jews? You let them in and let them practice Judaism lol. Oh and the added bonus of handing them the banking usury system of every christcuck country because the jewgod said so lol

Pagans destroyed both Jerusalem temples. Christians are helping Jews rebuild the Third Temple.

Paganism and Judaism are opposites. Christianity is “Judaism for Gentiles.”

This is why the Romans threw the Christians to the Lions!

Christianity was invented to destroy Rome, so in simple terms, is not the first time it succeed in being the perfect tool for the parasites.

The only reason jews have relevance is because of Christianity. If europeans remained pagan we would have had no troubles or moral dilemma of crushing them.

The jews created mostly harmless noahides that relocated them gracefully from one European country to the next one until they covered the entirety of Europe and were employed in finance, yes, they went from near complete and total annihilation under Rome to having their country recreated and getting close to gobal tikkun olam thanks to vile subhuman filth like christians.

Once the Engine of civilization is gone,
return to the mud favela.

Ask any christcuck why their religion never put an end to the jewish problem once and for all in a millennia of absolute power. The typical response will be "b-b-but we kept them at bay!" which not only is false, but ignores the fact they butchered millions of Aryans to force this jewish cult, and never committed the same violence against jews.

>513441568
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/%22amen%20sister%22/page/2/

>>513436491 (OP)
that couldn't possibly have anything to do with their (((conditioning)))
surely christcucks are just heckin based as frick, r-right?

>>513456339
>christcuck

>>513456339
109 times is a lot, mind putting all that data in a worldmap? Maybe accompanied by a timeline of when it happened.

>>513456339
>and never committed the same violence against jews
Anyone who says this doesn't know about the crusades or the inquisition, particularly in Spain when dealing with conversos. The first crusade massacred Jerusalem, killing thousands of jews. The inquisition made it a point to root out false converts from judaism.

>IwV/T0ud
>74pbtid
It's the pedo ghost of mesa jew again lmao

>>513457069
>an adoring fan appears
Rent free

>>513442953
>Some "church's", despite profession of service to Christ, are not Christian
Some "atheist's", despite profession of service to Science, are not Atheist

Now that your thread has been demolished, go enjoy your meltie babe.

(Suck shit christcuck)