Thread 513448284

There are a lot of Shinto shrines and Buddhist temples all over Japan, and Japanese people like to pray there. However, many of them say themselves as non-religious.
I was puzzled by this for a long time, but recently I've come to understand it. Japanese people believe in God, but they don't rely on religion.
That's why even Japanese Christians pray at Shinto shrines.

>>513448284 (OP)
Respect the Gods and the Buddha.
But dont rely on them.

Miyamoto Musashi
Book of Five Rings

>>513448284 (OP)
In other words, the Shinto god, the Christian god and Islamic god are the same god for the Japanese people.

>>513448390
>Shinto god, the Christian god and Islamic god are the same god for the Japanese people.

Lul, no

>>513448284 (OP)
>Shinto shrines blah blah
Sure. Whatever. If you plan on keeping your various shrines, you're going to need to keep sucking American shlong for the next century or two.

>>513448284 (OP)
>There are a lot of Shinto shrines and Buddhist temples all over Japan, and Japanese people like to pray there.
So they do rely on religion? If I believe in God and go to churches regulary to pray I'm pretty sure people in the West would say that I am very much religious.

Religion is organized tard-wrangling for NPCs.

Real spirituality is skeptical of religion and seeks to experience firsthand its claims before accepting them.

>>513448349
Why are bugman so risk averse?

They are just confused retards living in a secular world. Technology and electricity and modern buildings kill religion. Their ancestors would have been extremely religious and would have killed over their gods

>>513448542
Musashi faced 200 swordsmen of the Yoshioka school alone.

Pearl Harbor isnt risk aversion.

>>513448284 (OP)
I hope you are not indian

>>513448284 (OP)
Japanese people don't believe in God.
Japanese people will pray to certain beings or deities or their deceased ancestors, but not a single god.
Praying to one sole God is insanely cucked. It's the ultimate form of submission. It's like taking 100 dicks in your ass at once.

>>513448390
lol wtf?
japan isn't monotheistic. there is no sole creator. that is some freemason shit.

>>513448553
>Let me tell you about your ancestors

>>513448284 (OP)
>Japanese people believe in God(...)
In what fucking God it's a polytheistic religion

>>513448691
Shintoism is a natural folk religion with shamanism and animism as a basis.

Unlike the universalistic monolatric excretions of Judaism i.e Islam and Christianity.

>>513448284 (OP)
>I was puzzled by this for a long time
kek, are you a genuine autist? religion is a man-made concept

>>513448390
Ecumenical nonsense. The Japanese do not believe in the Father Son and Holy Spirit they do not believe Jesus Christ is God. Fucking kill yourself.

>>513448691
Soldiers fighting at war time equals the general public not risk averse? Logic is not your strong suit..

“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:” (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntc
Jesus Christ is God who came to earth from heaven in the flesh. He died as a sinless sacrifice for the sins of the whole world to save you from eternal hell, the punishment for your sin. He was buried, then resurrected and is now in heaven. Do you regret your horrible sinful state? Do you want forgiveness? Put your faith in the blood atonement of Jesus Christ which is sufficient to wash your soul from all sin eternally no matter how miserable you are. Let go of the faith you have in your own effort in trying to please God. You can only be redeemed with the blood of Jesus Christ. "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." (John 10:28) God wants to forgive you, but you have a choice. Your deeds, no matter how good you think they are can NEVER justify you. You're corrupt and need to be saved. “Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.” (Romans 5:9). Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, in what HE did for you. Only He can pay for all of your sins with His blood. Salvation is a gift, it can't be earned. God has given you much time to repent of your sinfulness and self-righteousness.

“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” (Romans 3:23)

“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l5ZEsXjNVI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbPchtYsXNo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS78mFJcvhQ

>>513448349
are you the guy from the /trv/ banner?

>>513448846
Yes nigger.

Kinda like only a small percentage of monkeys didnt get jabbed during Covid.

Men are cattle.
And only a few are risk oriented.

>>513448284 (OP)
God is within you. You don’t need a temple, church or outside savior. You only can trust yourself.

>>513448860
Dude you're not helping youre just being a cringe faggot

>>513448905
That was for some other thing not you kill yourself for not being intelligent enough to understand that

>>513448542
Risk aversion is the last thing I would charge the Japanese with

>>513448846
i think u replied to the wrong guy

>>513448935
God can suck my big fat hairy balls.

>>513448349
>>513448635

Based Musashi

>>513448846
I guess analyzing culture and history is not your strong suit...

>>513448700
It's irrefutable that Japanese people used to be far more involved in shintoism than they are today you disingenuous jew

>>513448390
This is not the shining endorsement you might think it is.
It's like saying we all have parents so all our parents are the same, and so we should only respect the impersonal idea of parenthood.
It's the opposite of reverence.

>>513448284 (OP)
how many countries in the west have 'suicide forests'

>>513448531 ur talking like a retarded plebbittor

>>513448284 (OP)
Sounds like me. I believe in a omnipresent force from an omnipotent being. Could be called Teōtl.

>>513448860
Biblefaggots just dumping bible quotes are annoying and cringe.

>>513449025 memeflag detected opinion rejected

>>513448983
You literally had tax-cattle ostracizing their countrymen for not wearing a plastic mask just 3 years back.

Who are you to charge anyone with risk aversion?

Default on credit. See how many amerimutts are risk oriented.

What is this babble
Praying at a shrine= religion
'they say they're non-religious', well they are, because what they're doing IS religion

>>513448349
Imagine relying on something that does not exist
Peak mental asylum behaviour

>>513449185
They don't believe in it though. It's a social thing.

>>513448284 (OP)
>>513448531
Religion is a man-made institution, a mind hive.
being irreligious is like being completely off-the grid hermit without internet while the authority enforce mandatory internet ID with constant online connection for 24/7 surveillance, out of fear of wrong thought.
>you don't take the vaxx despite being healthy. You are a risk of contagion of memeflu

>>513449185
Its religion.

But not the contrived dualistic nonsense from abrahamic universal sects.
You are not forced to do anything.

>>513449154
Here's another opinion for you to discard: fuck God.

>>513448284 (OP)
Japs are a high IQ population that is unironically spiritual and not religious. Atheism is more of a midwit thing. Highly intelligent people also figure out pretty early on life that religion is fake and gay, but where atheists stop studying and stop being curious, high IQ people keep going, and their study and life experiences convince them that there is something beyond the curtain of this world. Shintoism is a very loose Shamanistic belief system that lends itself better to the spirituality of highly intelligent people.

>>513449266
Shintoism has elaborate rituals and ceremonies that are completely ignored today because they don't believe in the gods anymore

>>513448390

East Asians don’t really understand religion the way we do. To them gods are just things you ask favors from.

>>513449103
why forests when you can use drugs, guns or bridges?

>>513449434
How do you know that nigger?
Are you there watching over enclosed gates?

>>513449103
They're called train tracks, Japs don't wanna inconvenience anyone is all.

>>513449516
It's incredibly easy to study any topic in the 21st century you disingenuous jew

>>513449624
Yes amerimutt nigger.
You experienced shintoism by reading out your cereal box.

>>513449437
But that is how it should work
Morality does not come from god

>>513449437
The three teachings sounds very comfy
Why can't Abrahamic religions have their prophets drinking vinegar or laughing at tiger brooks together

>>513450338
>Why can't Abrahamic religions

Because they arent religions.
They are franchise tools used to control goyim.

Ok…and…?

Street Preaching at V!OLENT Gay Pride Festival

https://youtu.be/SMCLVZ2IAE8

>>513449913
>Morality does not come from god

Yes it does. Morality is objective. It is baked into the fabric of the cosmos by our creator. If instead morality comes from man, then morality is subjective and therefore self-defeating and meaningless.

>>513450907
>Morality is objective

Says the slave.

>>513448284 (OP)
Go back home filthy gaijin

>>513450907
Good post.

For when Gentiles who do not have the Law naturally do the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they demonstrate the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus.
— Romans 2:14-16

>>513451089
>For when Gentiles who do not have the Law

Shmoking on Yeshua haMoschiach.

>>513448284 (OP)
shit bait

>>513449913
The Creator creates, the only absolute moral imperative is survival. Extinct breeds do not have anything more to say about morality, they and their moral systems are gone and obviously didn't work. Every prosocial behavior we conventionally associate with being a good person is only true in the context of us being social animals subdivided into different subspecies, i.e. races. Being a kind, loving, and charitable person is good in the context of the cohesion, survival, and continuance of your kind. Fate and circumstance may just as well require a person to be a warrior, fighter, a brute, and a killer in defense of his people at one point in his life and a kindly grandfather and charitable pillar of his community in another, and both are morally valid and necessary towards the continuation of his kind.

>>513448443
You mutts suck Jew cuck harder

>>513449103
Why do whiteoids pretend their suicide rates are any better?
Oh no!! 1000 people committed suicide on Japan, in our superior country it was only 997 people!!!

>>513448284 (OP)
Shito isnt an axiomatic religion.

Case closed

>>513451481
Far east asians have an honor culture based around the concept of personal and familial shame.

In olden times a son would commit suicide if his father merely reprimanded him.
This in Japan.

Meanwhile among "whitoid" monkeys, suicide is haram because Yahweh wants you here.

>>513448390
Wow, so Japanese just disrespect all religions. Amazing.

>>513450937
If you establish your own morality, it only has value to you. Morality is not only baked into the cosmos, but you know it too. Unless you have a damaged brain, you recognize right from wrong on an instinctive level. The finer points of morality may be misunderstood if you've never thought deeply about it or aren't too intelligent. But you understand basic concepts.

>>513451822
>Morality is not only baked into the cosmos

Explain to me how your jewish slave morality is baked into the cosmos.

>right from wrong on an instinctive level

No.
My instincts are misanthropic and racist.
Unlike your moschiach.

>>513451194
>Yeshua haMoschiach.
Yes He is.

>>513452585
Sing with me:

SHEMA ISRAEL
ADONAI EHAD
ADONAI ELOHEINU

Canta españolete.

>>513452723
>First Epistle of Peter

6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them (the jews) which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

9 But ye (the Christians) are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

>>513448284 (OP)
Japanese do not believe in a single God.

>>513448390
agree

Braaap

>>513448390
Radiation really made you guys fucking retarded didn't it

>>513448390
No.
Shinto is mainly respect for ancestors and nature.
Buddhism is more of a philosophy and easter gnosticism than a faith based religion.
Christianity is having faith in Christ’s sacrifice.

You can potentially worship Christ in a Shinto shrine while practicing Buddhist chants but it would be a meaningless practice in all 3 religions and done only for the sake of the ritual.

>>513448284 (OP)
godzilla is my god

>>513448284 (OP)
shintoism is a perversion of pure-land buddhism with a bunch of animist pagan crap. it's a cringe nihilistic "religion" that erodes the moral fabric of a nation.

>>513448284 (OP)
>>513448390
I hope japanese crusify you like they did in the past and the rest of the world joins in.

>>513449437
It's China, not Japan.
Shinto is in Japan only. The Continental side of Asia don't have Shinto.

>>513448390
In the sense that the Greeks did with the unknown God according to St. Paul, maybe. You can't worship ancestors, though, unless worship is meant in the classic sense of just giving someone their due worth. (ie: worship your parents). Incense and sacrifice to ancestors go a bit beyond that though.

>>513448284 (OP)
good point

>>513449437
It's China, not Japan.
Shinto is in Japan only. The Continental side of Asia don't have Shinto.

Imagine how much of a MUTTED shithole Japan would be today if it had Christianized. It would probably resemble the Philippines. You boys made the right choice by kicking your christcucks out. Im glad you were smart enough to recognize it as a subversive force.

>>513457519
Youll get sent back to where you came from in little pieces

Believing in god is a sign of low IQ. Even worse is worshipping dead jew.

>>513448284 (OP)
God is Jesus Christ.
Praying in demon temples is heathen sorcery and demon worship.
Japanese worship demon Satan and get nuked and earthquakes.
Japanese are wicked, evil demon worshippers of Satan

>>513458161
im from niigata, where we practice 浄土真宗,

>>513448860
>Jesus Christ is God who came to earth from heaven in the flesh.
A pagan belief that only came into existence 200 years after early Christian teachings when the religion had been hellenized. The early Christians, before the religion was led astray by false prophets (just like Jesus forewarned) never believed in the nonsensical mystifying idea of the trinity.
>b-but muh John 1:1 says the Word was God
No. Look at the original greek for other verses that use the term Theon. It doesn't necessarily mean 'is God'.
For example, 1 Corinthians 4:4 which uses the exact same word Theon θεός
> ἐν οἷς ὁ θεὸς τοῦ αἰῶνος τούτου ἐτύφλωσεν τὰ νοήματα τῶν ἀπίστων εἰς τὸ μὴ αὐγάσαι τὸν φωτισμὸν τοῦ εὐαγγελίου τῆς δόξης τοῦ Χριστοῦ, ὅς ἐστιν εἰκὼν τοῦ θεοῦ.
>(translated) in whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the Good News of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn on them.
This is a verse about SATAN, you know, literally the fucking devil. This line is saying that satan is 'the god of this world.' The exact same Theon word is used.
Does this mean that satan is literally god?? Obviously fucking not.
In the same way that satan is being called the god of the world (because he rules it) in a colloquial sense, so too is the Word (Jesus) being referred to as being God-like but not literally God Himself.
>b-but what about when Jesus said that he and the Father are one
does this mean that Adam and Eve/husbands and wives are literally the same person because 'they are one' and 'one flesh?@ Of course not. It's figurative and is about his closeness to God.

There is only one God and you may have no others before Him, and his name is YHWH.

Also hell isn't real either, it's more pagan bullshit with no scriptural basis, only ever referenced in parable form.

>>513448284 (OP)
how do i get a cute, devout, nip gf?

>>513448284 (OP)
So they are like the Druze, who can pray at Churches and or mosques?
>>513448860
Based
>>513448946
>>513449120
Kikes like you are hated for a reason. Or you could be retarded but functional. Let's see shall we, as only kikes get this upset over Bible quotes. Both of you renounce the Talmud. Word for word. Not any other Abrahamic religion.

>>513458696
Last time I checked, jap women aren't into kikes.

>>513448284 (OP)
Japanese people believe that other people's beliefs is religion while theirs is just reality.

>>513448635
>Be Sasaki Kojiro
>Pretty boy with amazing sword talent
>Wildly Praised for skill by the higher ops.
>Teach others your talent
>One day A village boy from Miyamoto challenges you
>You accept
>You are defeated and killed quickly by a FUCKING OAR
>THIS is your legacy.

>>513458546
You heard what I said.

>>513448284 (OP)
0/10 no tail.

>>513448390
Shinto is way higher IQ than the abrahamic nonsense. kys

>>513448284 (OP)
Based

It's just basic folk religion that has turned into more generic culture/tradition. So you carry on the tradition despite not really believing in the religion.

>>513449437
That's way better than slave mentality of the (((abraham))) religions

>>513458696
They definitely aren't as easy as SEA girls, any white guy with a pulse can get those. With Japs you have to be a least reasonably attractive, not Chad by any means, but at least above average face and it helps to be taller than the Japanese Chads that are about 5'8 or 5'9. Also don't be fat, Japanese people have a pretty healthy revulsion to overweight people. The most difficult aspect is finances. Japan is a rich country and most Japanese girls won't see you as boyfriend or husband material unless you make the USD equivalent of 6 figures. They'll fuck you and date you for awhile if they find you attractive. But they aren't throwing away their reputation to be with a foreigner unless you can really elevate their lifestyle.

>>513459199
Can’t be top dog forever

>>513449103
How is this related to god?
Oh right you go to "hell" if you kill yourself so that should stop you right?
Better live a life full of pain and suffering than kill yourself.
Such a convincing argument to love religion! Thanks anon!

>>513448390
Actually fucking kill yourself.

>>513448284 (OP)
Abrahamic religion is created solely to brainwash and control the masses of society.
God could exist, but it certainly has nothing to do with the bullshit you see in those religions.

>>513458149
Shut up you stupid Chink. Nearby South Korea is just a stones throw away from Japan and they are far richer than Japan and the majority religion there is Christianity.

European Christians still celebrate Yule and have Christmas "trees". Turns out God just wants you to treat traditions of men as traditions of men, not be craven, and put no other gods before him. But you should love God with all of your heart and love your neighbor which is almost the same thing.

>>513458696
Lying Japanese. Most Japanese don't look like that. Most Japanese look like this.

>>513448531
>we tell stories to children
>therefore all stories are childish

>>513464940
Those are middle school children. Are you a pedo?

>>513449011
Look into every naval battle of WW2 where they were fighting a prepared enemy.
Japanese are very risk averse when it comes to something unknown.

>>513465214
Stop distracting chink. I used them because thats what Asians really look like before they grow into adults and smother themselves in makeup and surgeries and thus be able to fake their looks.

>>513464203
>being brainwashed by amerigolems is actually a good thing
They aren't "far richer" and people that are unaffiliated outnumber Christcucks.

>>513448390
Lmao no, Shinto is a japanese religion, by japanese, for japanese.
They don't have a world creation myth, they just have a Japan creation myth.

>>513448390
Based God believers.

>>513465480
Nigger. They consider themselves Christians to set themseleves apart from the Communist North Koreans since the Communists apply State Atheism since Communism is an Atheist ideology. They also did that as a big middle finger to Japan since Japan used Korean Buddhism amd Shindo (allied to Japanese Shinto) as colonial tools for Japan, meanwhile in South Korea's case, Christianity was a liberating anti colonial ideology against Japan compared to Shinto, Buddhism, and Atheism which was pro Japanese Imperialism.

>>513448284 (OP)
Japanese Shinto has a potential to solve the conflict problem of religions in the world.

>>513465876
Korea's native religion was literally suppressed by the South Korean government for decades. There is nothing "liberating" about Christianity. It's an invasive foreign religion that found a unique opening and took it. The Korean youth don't believe that shit anymore though and like many things it will die out eventually. But Koreans live really long so it's gonna take a while.

>>513466030
Hell no. Japanese Shinto used Korean Shindo in South Korea to opress the South Koreans and quash any revolutions and independence protests during Japanese colonial rule over Korea. In this case Shinto was used to oppress, murder, and silence critics. Japanese rule was so horrible that South Koreans adopted Christianity out of sheer spite against Japan.

>>513466145
Nigger, Korea's native religion Shamanism and Shindo was co opted by Japanese colonial rulers. Thats why when the independence movement of South Korea came about the anti Japanese Christians found a power base that was legitimized by the successful independence movement of Korea.

>>513448284 (OP)
>There are a lot of Shinto shrines and Buddhist temples all over Japan, and Japanese people like to pray there. However, many of them say themselves as non-religious.
Because they don't actually believe in anything and are just continuing to go there to pray and do other rituals and practices out of tradition and social/cultural momentum. They want to believe in something, and want their prayers to matter, but most of them don't even realize how empty and pointless it is for them to go to a temple and pretend to pray and believe.
Same thing was true in pretty much every pagan nation and empire before mass conversion to Christianity. That's what the pagan Romans and Greeks were like before becoming Christian. That's what the Germanic pagans were like before becoming Christian.
The difference is that Christians do believe. When a Christian prays, his prayers are real and meaningful because he is praying to a real God who actually exists.
Shintos and Buddhists will go to a temple and pray, but would they be willing to die for their beliefs or their gods?
Of course not, because they have nothing.
But Christians do not fear martyrdom or death because our God is the only real One.

>>513448284 (OP)
>>513448390
you are a fat retarded amerimutt

>>513456795
The only reason for a Christian to go to a Shinto or Buddhist temple would be to destroy all of the false pagan idols and statues of that fat chink, and then burn the temple to the ground.
We should have done this after the war when we were still occupying Japan. We should have all of your ancient temples shrines and built Christian churches on the site.

>>513466400
nigger I'm talking about after that. There was a large concentrated effort post-War by the South Korea government to suppress the native religion. The nips before that tried to impose state shinto and also were oppressive against shamanism. Christianity just lucked out since the Joseon kingdom before all of that fell for the jewish brainrot and Christianity was poised to benefit from the unique political situation at the time. But that's all history in the past. Again, the Korean youth don't believe that shit and most of the country is unaffiliated religiously especially the younger generations. It's just a weird quirk of history but Christianity is going to die out there pretty fast once the old people all pass away.

>>513448390
Why is this gaijin sensei posting in 4chan? Are (you) a pedo perhaps huh faggot

>>513448284 (OP)
They relied on honesty, resolute will, and good faith and they wish only for good things to carry them through with life. This is what works for them. This is in line with the white man's success.
Of course, this opens you to the weakness of obedience and submissiveness in which you place complete faith in someone else's hand to guide you. For some, it is God.

Shinto comes down to the same things I've been telling you all about.
>Shinto believes that humans are born pure, sharing in the divine soul.
>The purpose of Shinto rituals and practices is to cleanse these impurities and restore a state of pristine purity, according to Green Shinto. This allows for a harmonious connection with the kami, the divine spirits that inhabit nature.
Those are faeries and they're talking about Rigpa. Once you attain that state of purity and reconnection with the divine, you're a "God-man" in that you'll be one with God and have Siddhis, and working with the spirits is part of this as well.
Tibetan Buddhism takes its spirit offerings from Yungdrung Bon which is a goldmine for this shit.
Did you all know there's a type of spirits that live in the atmosphere and are drawn to lightning and strong sources of energy, and sometimes human technological activity draws these guys unknowingly?

>>513448284 (OP)
Nips have some amazing mind control chip in them; the whole "no going to the beach after August" or whatever the cutoff date is just one little example of that right control mechanism.

>>513464203
I’m Irish Scandinavian you goddamn Mexican. South Korea is a globohomo hell hole today.

>>513466579
No, God is real. You just look for him outside. Shintos, Tibetan Buddhists, Hindus, etc. look for him within because we are all a part of God. Everything is. These practices make you God in the flesh, that's why Gurus are honored as being the Dharmakaya in the flesh who guides us to finding that ourselves, what hermeticists call the Divine Spark.
Spirits are real and they're everywhere. You can work with them. I've already fucked around and found out with this, I think I may have a visitor right now. Doors are opening that no one here claims to have opened again and last week I walked into my house and I saw what looked like a woman wearing a shawl over a dress walking into the master bedroom. I'm going to appease this spirit and see if we can help each other.
Point is, it's real, God is real, spirits are real, Jesus was a God-man just like we can be through these practices. Use him for your example.