Thread 513460694

Is a Nazi takeover of Ukraine the optimal outcome?

China are killing it with national socialist policies. I'm getting a little suspicious of ''''the global community''', and how Ukraine has been strung along. This war could've been ended in 1 year, but nobody seems to want this.

A truly based Ukrainian government, who doesn't listen to anybody, surely would be a great model for the rest of Europe to follow.

>>513460694 (OP)
you know what would be great? if Russia did a complete and unconditional withdrawal from Ukrainian territory.

That would end the war right quick.

>>513460694 (OP)
no any kind of ultra right wing government us a meme since there's no support for it even when it comes ti right wingers. i think seeing what happened with hohols and right wingers cemented the idea that right wing is just low taxes and kosher interracial marriage without antisemitism.

>>513460890
That would be great if they fucked off. But it'd also be great if Ukraine's government wasn't this jewish. Something is off.

Ukraine should be Ukrainian, not a jewmerican colooony.

>>513461070
>right wingers
They're all geriatric kikemaxxed faggots sitting on pensions and paying the toll daily.

Communists are unironically more based than 'muh centrist rights'.

>>513460890
Nah

>>513461204
>also azog

>>513461858
It's common knowledge that Azov were btfo years ago and nerfed. The basedness has spread to new units.

>>513460694 (OP)

lol, lmao

>>513460890
>P-please Russia I'm b-begging you just give up and let us win
It's funny because this is the actual NATO strategy

>>513462491
>p-p-p-pplease give us Kramatorsk!!!
Tracks both ways. Both sides are kikemaxxed for profits.

>>513460890
>you know what would be great?
Total Amerigoblin Genocide

The solution all along has been to create an ethnostate in the territory of picrel which has 0 foreign interference from Abrahamic faiths, from NATO, from the EU, from jewmerica, or the chinks.

Basically a bigger Serbia. It'll be slightly retarded and poor, and will no doubt descend into civil war within 20 years, but it's better than what we currently have.

>>513461959
There is no based untermensch kosher nazi in Ukraine.

>>513460694 (OP)
This is a great point about globalization and how it has affected Ukraine. It’s basically a lot of countries just making empty promises and talking mean to Russian, meanwhile millions of Ukrainians and Russians are killing each other. It’s a fucking joke.

>China are killing it with national socialist policies.

not this meme again
Chinese constitution literally cites Marxism-Leninism

>>513460694 (OP)

That would be based.

>>513464034
China cites Schmitt.

>>513460694 (OP)
>chinese nat soc policies are killing it
They are killing the people. Recent reports of riots for children being given PAINTED FOOD with LEAD in it.

The day of the lathe cannot come fast enough.

Nazis should take the initiative ans sieze the power or the niggercattle masses will vote for niggerloves again.

>>513464034
>it literally cites!!!!
>the words say!!!!!!!
Observe the modern day social media brainrekt poster. Buzzword overdose can be fatal to critical thinking.

>>513460694 (OP)
Op fell for the nazi larp, laugh at him everone

>>513464551
Ok, but Singapore is also nazi.

>>513464394
>We the Chinese people of all ethnic groups will continue, under the leadership of the Communist Party of China and the guidance of Marxism-Leninism, Mao Zedong Thought, Deng Xiaoping Theory, the Theory of Three Represents, the Scientific Outlook on Development and Xi Jinping Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era, to uphold the people's democratic dictatorship,
>http://en.npc.gov.cn.cdurl.cn/constitution.html

now you
show the line

>>513464647
Israel is nazi.

>>513464828

He is referring to this article I believe

>>513464638
>Observe the modern day social media brainrekt poster.

ok
enough observation?

>>513465013
>some literal who opinion
>vs official constitution

>>513464828
This means nothing. They even said class struggle was a mistake, they are clearly not on the path of communism and aren't a communist economy right now.

this not being like this bugs me

>>513465139
>literally proof of naming inside the CONSTITUTION (foundation of every state)
>vs random gogi opinion

kek this is why nobody takes you seriously

lol

>>513465538
>what is data
China identifies as a communist state, but reality is far, far, far, far away from this.

The leadership would lose a lot of face among the masses if they shat on communist ideology. They just pay face value to it while they steam ahead with national socialism.

China doesn't really get involved in the markets much. They allow private enterprise to blossom. This is not communist.

>>513465538
American constitution gurantees free speech but mike shitwood has arrested 3 Americans in this thread as we speak.

Georgian constitution says we are on the path of entering NATO. We can all dream.

>>513460694 (OP)
>Is a Nazi takeover of Ukraine the optimal outcome?
Absurd fan fiction, the only "takeover" of Ukraine has been a Jewish take over.

>>513460694 (OP)
>Is a Nazi takeover of Ukraine the optimal outcome?
To seize the power ukrainian far-right parties and paramilitas would have to fight both pro-EU and pro-USA interests groups after some kind of peace deal with us is done. With another threat to them being most likely arrival of foreign troops from EU to enforce stability of post-war regime in the Ukraine and making sure Ukraine keeping its end of the bargain in all land and industry sales it did during the war.
This likely would result in Ukrainian civil war and could lead to join USA-Russia-EU intervention if it prolongs, since all parties have zero interests if Ukraine goes full Somali with drug and weapon trafficking.

>>513465923
just say you meant whatever you said metaphorically

>>513465965
>Russia says

>>513465980
>Russian and American intervention
I'm glad Ukraine can look forward to a future like:
>Syria
>Libya
>Iraq
>Afghanistan
>Tajikistan
>Cuba

South Korea - one of the most racist nations out there, has fared the best. Ukraine should pay very very careful attention.

>>513465798
>literal who opinion from latvian
kek
try proving whatever nonsense you claim next time

>>513465923
you host 10 NATO bases you're already de facto in, or better nato is deep in your cunt kek

>>513466739
https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/exp@FPP/USA/FRA/JPN/GBR/SWE/ESP/ITA/ZAF/IND

>muh communist government spending less than the USA

ahahhaah

>>513462576
Ah, but Russia can impose their will on Ukraine, while the reverse is not true. Since you sit and spam the catalog all day (you're a very recognizable poster) I already know what you're going to say:
>if Russia can take Slavyansk/Kramatorsk, why haven't they done so yet?
You see, people with triple digit IQs are able to do something called "abstraction" and use available information to try and predict events that may happen in the future. For people who do not possess this ability (i.e. niggers), thinking about things that do not exist/have not happened yet is very difficult, impossible even.
This difference in ability to think abstractly is why people who predicted that places like Severodonetsk, Soledar, Bakhmut, Avdeevka, Chasov Yar, Ugledar, etc, would eventually fall to the Russians were right, while people who spent that same time saying that these places would never fall (because it hadn't happened yet) were wrong. The problem is that they don't understand WHY they were wrong, and therefore can't learn from their mistakes. It's not their fault, they simply never developed this ability because they had no need for it. Other people (i.e. whites), on the other hand, evolved under circumstances in which they had to consider what would happen if they didn't build stout houses and store enough fuel and food for the winter.
>tl;dr:
How would you feel if Russia did take Kramatorsk?

>>513466739
>you host 10 NATO bases

>>513467166
CCP appoints CEOs and can execute anyone at will if they misbehave, which they've done in the past.

>>513460694 (OP)
>NAZI UKRAINE
For the uninformed: Ukrainian Nazism is not a struggle for the white race, otherwise they would not be killing Russians and eastern Ukrainians. Ukrainian Nazism is primarily about the superiority of the Ukrainian nation over all others.

>>513467562
That's concerned with the y-axis on the political compass, though, not the x-axis.

>CCP appoints CEOs and can execute anyone at will if they misbehave, which they've done in the past.
Sounds awfully similar to Nazi Germany and their private companies, right?

Don't remember too many "CEOs" of private companies in the Soviet Union, Cuba, or in North Korea, though...

You're dangerously close to proving my point. Think carefully.

>>513467346
>For people who do not possess this ability (i.e. niggers)

LMAOOO

>>513460694 (OP)
Unironically, no.
Instead of looking at a glorified version of what you think it is, you should take a look at what they're actually saying and doing.
Those "nazis" are the ultimate traitors to their own nation and more interested in senseless killing than the betterment of their people and nation. And that's where you have the large difference between the functional nationalistic societies and the not functional ones.

>>513467742
You are a retarded boomer, aren't you? How old are you?

>>513467707
>That's concerned with the y-axis on the political compass,
treat your mental illness please. Next you'll claim nazis ate bread too just like Chinese

>Don't remember too many "CEOs" of private companies in the Soviet Union, Cuba, or in North Korea, though...

That's because you have no Idea of Stalin's Russia whatsoever
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artel

>>513467346
>Ah, but Russia can impose their will on Ukraine,
They can bomb Ukraine at will, this is different from imposing their will, but I'm sure someone with your superior and truly remarkable intellect already knew that

>>513467847
>muh boomer

I accept your humiliating defeat

>>513467994
Are you really trying to compare some sable trappers around Perm, fishers in Karelia and lumberjacks in the Amur basin to Hugo Boss and Mercedes?

Also, (uh oh),
>In the later Soviet period (1960s–1980s), the term was mostly phased out with the complete monopolization of the Soviet economy by the state.

You're backpeddling harder than the motorbike heroes who tried taking Pokrovsk.

>>513468278
>hey check this link
>i promise that China is exactly like the USSR
>complete monopolization of the Soviet economy by the state.

>complete monopolization
>Soviet economy
>state.

shiiieeeeeeeetttttttttttttttttttttttttt

>>513468278
Chinese literally never let go of their NEP.
I just wanted to educate you it is all
And no I'm not defending Chrushevs economy, I see it as decline

>>513468041
>They can bomb Ukraine at will
I'm glad you're not denying this like so many butthurt retards do. You're right in that it's not the same, but the fact that Ukraine (and NATO) can't do anything about their ability to do so means that it's the mechanism by which they can impose their will. Ultimately, this power disparity has to factor into great power/small state politics. This is why (as far as Europeans are concerned) it's in the interest of the smaller state to pursue diplomatic resolutions to problems, because if push comes to shove and there's a war, the great power will simply crush them and impose their will anyway, at disproportionate cost to the smaller state. Poroshenko and Zelensky were fools, they thought that that were aligning themselves with the America of the 90s against the Russia of the 90s, and now their people are paying the price. They should have abided by the Minsk accords, getting rid of the Banderites would have been a small price to pay compared to what they'll have given up when the war finally ends. I admit that that's very easy for me to say sitting in my comfy chair on the other side of the planet in 2025, mind you.