Thread 513467188

When Bukele started putting all the gangsters in jail, all the human rights NGOs started screeching about the rights of the murderers and rapists.

I've seen the same trend in the US and the UK and still don't understand why.

>>513467188 (OP)
Stripping the rights away from criminals is the first step towards autocracy. After all, any government can decide you're a criminal at any time it wants if you disagree with its policies.

>>513467188 (OP)
Same trend. All leftists love criminals and think they're merely victims of society.

>>513467188 (OP)
they just hate seeing muh brown peoplerino getting mistreated
if the criminals getting gulag'd by Bukele were White, leftists worldwide would think he's based

>>513467188 (OP)
Because leftists are gay.

The thing they were seething about wasn't even that controversial. To crack down on something like organised crime it's very common to have laws which actually make it easier for the police to do their jobs in a way that doesn't affect ordinary members of the public. Like I'm never going to have a tattoo with something like MS-13 on there, so why the fuck should I give a shit?

it's part of a feminized society. luigi was "hero or horror" and had a fanclub. girls openly would rather date criminals than short men or "boring" men.

women weren't supposed to choose. you are simply seeing a society that reflects their values: short term thinking, feelings based, pleasure seeking at all costs.

Criminals feel tingly to women. Boring working men don't produce the gina tingles. Short men are even worse. Therefor it is better to be a criminal than be short to women. Therefore, leftists care about criminals, because they are more valuable.

>>513467188 (OP)
There must be a law that says if you defend foreign citizens you will be deported to their country and welcome to defend them from their shithole

Because leftists are fucking retarded and can’t stand reality.

>>513468131
>never going to have a tattoo with something like MS-13 on there
>so why the fuck should I give a shit?
What if eu starts jailing 4chinner posters or deploying palantir ai killdrones against zog critics. Every pleb is regarded as a criminal to those in power

>>513467188 (OP)
Because they're jewish.
>Do you mean the leftists or the NGOs?
Yes

>>513469065
They might be jewish but the propaganda still has made it through the minds of endless liberal goyim. Why do these goyim support the rights of criminals over hard working citizens?

>>513469275
Because they possess no soul. Picrel is the longer explanation, but the summary is that the people who value truth for truth's sake are a minority.

Those bitches think Mr Stabby Criminal is going to buy them all the dumb shit Mr Boring won't. Women will see two men disagree about one thing, and assume they are disagreeing about everything and declaring each other mortal enemies. Mr Stabby Criminal isn't buying you shit, either, retard.

>>513468982
I wish they'd just get on with the kind of things you suggested. But rather, we have a very slow managerial creep towards it instead. Like how Chat Control is coming into effect in October in the EU and that's the first step, to try to identify potential dissidents by their spicy group posts on apps and the like. You know Ireland is also going to eventually get it's own version of the "online safety act", you know they're still not quite finished with ramming through the "hatespeech" laws, that they only got something small in right before the last election and they will want to keep pushing.

If Garda were actually taking Irish men away for some harmless shitposts then maybe we wouldn't just be happy to keep sleepwalking and it might accelerate things. I think people still have it too good.

But to go back to your point, yes laws can be abused, but who cares about what an occupation government that wants to plant us? Of course they would abuse existing laws, demand more unjust ones, and ignore and not enforce the sensible ones and so on.

>>513467188 (OP)
Communism is basically just crime made the government when you think about it

>>513467188 (OP)
I think it's part of the way communist ideology evolved to better "fit" western society. Think about it this way: communist ideology presupposes that class conflict is at the core of every society; master/slave, lord/serf, bourgeoisie/proletariat, etc. This conflict is inevitable and what drives history forward in their estimation. The "problem" with Western democracies with market economies is that they actually produce a pretty high standard of living for their oppressed class all things considered. Think about the places communist revolutions actually succeed; they were all feudalist shitholes, or half a step removed from that, not the industrial societies Marx predicted.

>>513467188 (OP)
Bukele doesn't have that much hair.

leftists hate distinctions so they will identify with some cannibal demon illegal because they themselves smoked weed once or shoplifted some jerky from 7/11

>>513467188 (OP)
space rocks

>>513467732
/thread Jews only hate the white man

>>513468982
>but what if the government makes it illegal to hold a fork in your right hand?
SHUT THE FUCK UP

>>513470981
I think your certain acceleration mentality may seem like a good idea but is idealistic, not placing enough emphasis on the financial & military aspect or the cowardice of everyone involved. I used to be an accelerationist but after witnessing how much regular people will bow to authorities when push comes to shove, it was a real eye opener. Started thinking only military coups across eu will try solve anything, the only problem is massive military conflict between multiple parties, blue on blue, green, red. There is too much inertia in the modern international system

>>513472276
So the problem communist ideologues were faced with in Western countries was that their dialectical model of conflict fell apart. The bourgeoisie, motivated by the desire for profit and in competition with each other, did not oppress the proletariat to the point it was either revolution or death. In fact, the democratic system of these countries did a pretty good job of splitting the difference between the interests of the opposing classes, at least compared to historical examples. To maintain their dialectical view of class conflict, communists thus had to find a new oppressed class; fortunately, there are four fundamental classes for them to choose from. In the Marxist framework, the bourgeoisie own the means of production but don't work, and the proletariat works but doesn't own, but there are also the petit-bourgeoisie, small business owners who both own and work, and the lumpenproletariat, who neither own nor work. Now which of those do you think sounds the most "oppressed" to a leftist?

>>513472821
Useful idiots get put against the wall first

>>513467188 (OP)
>schizo retard post shitting on the left
>instant replies and people eating the propaganda
>legit thread criticizing the right's hypocrisy and actual discussion
>0 responses

>>513473374
>you cant just jail people for demonic gang tattoos
>what if they go after middle aged women for butterfly tattoos?

I don't believe the state is competent enough to not punish innocent people.

I don't believe the state should get to put you into forever prison because you align with write up of "looks like a bad person".

I don't believe anything short of murder should come with a life sentence.

Even if it reduces crime, as long as the above are still happening, I don't support doing this.

>>513473627
How would you feel if you did not have breakfast this morning?

This only happens in your rotten right wing brain.

All the mainstream media support Bukele, if not outright at least tacitly. Killing and abusing poor people is the national pastime of government worldwide.

> but le gommies love criminals

We dont retard. However, we go against the system that creates them. Killing Pepito, who had to join the cartel in order to feed his peasant family which was displaced by big agrobusiness wont fix the criminal issue in society.

>>513467188 (OP)
Rights exist for no one, or they exist for everyone.
You oppose Bukele? Guess you're a criminal.

>>513473271
It should also be noted that this is a departure from strict Marxism. A strict Marxist would have members of the lumpenproletariat either set to work and thus rolled into the proletariat, or liquidated as dead weight alongside bourgeoisie who resisted the revolution. The lionization of the lumpenproletariat doesn't happen in China for example, because the communists won their revolution there and killed off more or less everyone they wanted to. Even if they have strayed from the economics of Marxism, they never were confronted with the problem of trying to start a revolution in a country that took more or less decent care of its lower class, so their version of communist ideology didn't need to evolve in that direction. I think that explains why caring so much about criminals is something you see with leftists living in countries where leftism lost, or was cannibalized by the existing power structure.

>>513474317
didn't read that wall of text but all those faggots in that image will be the first to be put against the wall and shot.

>>513473060
Still clinging to idea that you need the "masses" of people to effect real change. Of course they're cowards. Look how many people cucked and got the injections here just so they could go on holiday abroad. Of course they don't care about things in the abstract like "freedom" let alone putting their neck out.

Even if there is a scenario where we have civil war at most it will be about 10% of the people actively involved in it in some form. The rest it will be business as usual, the whole way through it. They will then act like they supported the winners all along, whoever they are.

The actual problem is that there isn't a proper counter elite yet. It doesn't matter how we get it, it could be defections from those with wealth and status in our current system, it could even be help from abroad (like we got with Irish Americans or Gadaffi) but there will be no masses of people rising up with "people power" or any of that shite. Our government could go full Communist and start just rounding those people up (who are just trying to keep their head down) like cattle and killing them and they'd still be going about their business until their number is called and men round them up. Stop thinking those people are relevant or will have any effect on history, it's only a tiny minority of people that will ever do that.

>>513467732
This, it's 100% white hatred

>>513467188 (OP)
>noticed
left is the violent criminals

>>513474317
I was going to write more, but >>513474130 captured the other idea I thought was important: that crime mostly only exists because of capitalist oppression. I'm not sure this one is even worth arguing against, just look at the GULAG system of the USSR or the atrocities of the Khmer Rouge if you want to see how leftists handle "crime" when they get into power. They just view what constitutes "crime" very differently.

>>513475019
I'm sorry Twitter's 140 character limit has fried your brain.

>>513475099
>proper counter elite
That is it, the timeline is looking rough for another few years though. The other problem is ensuring no un/eu/nato intervention as the complete lack of our military capacity almost guarantees it
>Stop thinking those people are relevant or will have any effect on history
I have not had that thought for years

>>513467188 (OP)
Because criminals are largely brown people. It is really that simple

>>513467188 (OP)
They retroactively made tatoos illegal.

Not dont get me wrong i would laugh at seeing all the tatoo NPCs get arrested for no reason.

But morally you need to give people a warning like "you have 15 days to remove your tatoo or you are arrested" smthing likebthat.

Its still funny seeing tattoo npcs in prison tho

>>513476140
That doesn't exist. Nobody would ever get a tattoo of a cartel, because every single cartel including the one they're impersonating would kill them for it. The tattooed freaks you see earned their tattoos, by murdering people, often family members. They all deserve to be executed, and if the world wasn't so jewish, Bukele would have ordered their deaths already.

>>513476428
Tons of normal tatood people were arrested in the net. There were two Brazilian MMA fighters stuck in priosonnfor 2 months because of their tatoos.

Hilarious? Yes. Deserved? Probably. Morally permissible? No.

>>513476884
What were tattooed Brazilian monkeys doing in El Salvador in the first place? Plus tattoos are for subhumans, so absolutely deserved.

>>513467274
I would argue the first step toward autocracy is guarding your infant daughter's virginity from well-intentioned men. After all, if one has dominion over one's daughter's body, that implies one has dominion over all women.

>>513467188 (OP)
They would like to be like them if they weren't pussy's. People promote those that represent the potential they wish they had. They identify with them and would do the same if they weren't scared of jail.

>>513476140
I can understand the principle, but the cartels are such vicious psychos that they ought to be considered un-uniformed enemy combatants.

>>513467274
>>513477047
This website is becoming unusable. Which is what the cia said they would do.

>>513467188 (OP)
Because the establishment and their progressive pets want to use criminals as an instrument of coercion. Think of the BLM riots. Criminals serve to apply pressure to normal people in ways that governments and progressive groups ostensibly can't. But if all the criminals are afraid to riot because they keep getting sent to El Salvador hell prisons, that tool is lost.

>>513477047
Get better material, the joke has been done to death and just using it in new situations doesn't make it clever

>>513467188 (OP)
Hunter Biden said the US should invade El Salvador to free the prisoners and bring them here.

>>513467188 (OP)
Bukele started as a leftist

his entire anticrime policy is just a pretext to powergrab and become the typical banana dictator

>>513477978
timmy.... this website was never for you
/pol/ is doing what it always does and begins leaning towards the current politically incorrect side
now you can go join the masses on the previous politically incorrect side while we figure out a new paradigm

>>513468139
The Salvadoran criminals they defend are manlets but they’re violent manlets so in the eyes of hybristophiliac females they’re better than the normal law abiding manlets they terrorize.

>>513479348
You're jewish.

>>513467188 (OP)
>why
because leftism is a mental disorder

imagine claiming men get pregnant and girls have dicks

???