Thread 513482673

Doesn't this prove that modern Greeks are basically just Turk rapebabies?

>>513482673 (OP)
Can you explain what are the -PC1 and PC2 values occupying the xy axis

or that Turks and Greeks are the same exact brown native group with some admixture from various elites that came in and ruled

>>513482673 (OP)
They've spent like 500 years getting fucked by Turks

>>513482673 (OP)
I don't think Greeks even deny this

>>513483152
Greeks literally think they're the same stock as Socrates and Alexander.

>>513482998
Google the principal component analysis nigger!
When you have a multidimensional data cloud you can rotate it in a manner when you see the best clustering.
You have to take Lin algebra course for this nigga shit kapisch?
The axis along most noticeable clusters ( the maximized difference) is pc1 and pc2. You can go further and plot pc2 vs pc3. Although when considering (human) genome, you can go pc20 deep for accurate racial classification.
No need to thank me for explanation.

>>513482673 (OP)
Denmark is Central European.

>>513484025
Merci.
and for those who would like to read more
>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9233301/

>>513482673 (OP)
Bottom third = Creates
NW = Copies
NE = Destroys

Turks are Turkmend/Uzbekd Greeks

>>513482673 (OP)
>>513483053
>>513483141

Only non-white subhumans hate Greeks. Also you subhumans don't understand Greeks, all Greeks that converted to Islam were removed during the series of Wars in that region during the 1800's. Meanwhile modern day Russia is an islamic state, anyone have that picture of Putin kissing the quran? You fucking subhuman mongol potato head ingrates

>>513486580
I've been to Greece. They are brown.

>>513482673 (OP)
>Austria between Western Euros and Slavoids

Kek

>>513482673 (OP)
Also I don't get it why Portugal is so East driven and Spain so North driven.
I call this map bullshit.

>>513484126
we love you

>>513486580
>Meanwhile modern day Russia is an islamic state

That's bullshit.
But it's clear the Greeks are white and with no Turkish admixture.

>>513486580
>"Alexander the Great; He is described in many contemporary sources as having dirty blonde hair."

>>513487082
Nice meme, but in all seriousness I think there is a higher % of blondes in Greece than in North America.

>>513482673 (OP)
>teal
>shit-yellow
>colorblind
Anon, only faggots see those as the same color.

>>513482673 (OP)
What it actually shows is that Turkey is made up of the preexisting inhabitants. Western Turkey was Greece and many Greek philosophers and key figures were from there (Miletus, Ionia, etc.). Turkey is mixed but also divided between ethnic subgroups (who are all mixed) so it depends what Turk you're sampling. Also Turkey didn't exist until 100 years ago and actually before that all of Anatolia was not Turkified, most people in it still did not assimilate into "Turkish" kulcha or whatever and those who did beforehand weren't Turks either but assimilated natives. Turkey is a case of a small group subjugating a larger one.

There is still a split you can see between the Turk and Greek samples, there has been change in the past but mainly population transfers of ethnic Greeks who did not assimilate, back to Greece.

>>513487293
Most white Americans have blond hair

>>513482673 (OP)
> another day, another C&D thread to "combat whiteness"
Get better material niggerfaggots

>>513487686
This anon is alright

>>513487293
>ALL (all) the early Roman Emperors except Hadrian (a homosexual) have blonde hair
>modern Italians: 15%

hmmm, what a coincidence

>>513487686
>What it actually shows is that Turkey is made up of the preexisting inhabitants.

Voilá!
Every single anon who read anything about History knows this.
Also Turkey (Anatolia really) is huge in the European scale of things.
Even today they have Greeks in the West and North, Bulgarians too, and then Kurds and Arabs in the South and East. Not to forget the Armenians and Georgians.

It's literally a huge bridge between Europe the Caucasus and the Middle East three times the size of Germany and six times the size of England which was basically and unironically taken over by Central Asian savages.

>>513487730
>Most white Americans have blond hair
>Most

It's funny because not even in Russia it is like this. Maybe in St. Petersburg and its surroundings but not even in Moscow or Smolensk or Kieve most whites have blonde hair.
Much less in fricking North America.

>>513487686
>le Turks are actually Greeks meme

Putting a Greek on the level of a Turk. Is this the flex you think this is?

>>513487730
Why do most ziggers have potato heads?

>>513483053
>>513482673 (OP)
do you think when the Constantinople fell all the greek just fled they stayed and fucked with turks.

>>513482673 (OP)
Benjamin Franklin was right all along

>>513487989
In my office I was the only person with brown eyes. Americans are majority blond as well.

>>513487993
Well not all Turks are the same, it's kind of split between western ones and Armenians and Kurds, all are "Turkish" (in Turkey) and each mixed with each other and Arabs, other things, to various degrees.

>>513487887

Do you understand that map is a meme?
Why are you not even the least curious about things?
Is it in order to hide your gross ignorance?

First of we would have to define blonde.
Then I could accept that 15% of Italians have blonde hair, but it's probably closer to 10%.
Or maybe you don't consider Southern Italy Italian. I don't care...

Then, you dumb ass, can't you see that if a family has blonde hair it is more likely that the members of that family have blonde hair?

I bet the Italian upper class today still is significantly blonder than the plebs.
I bet that although they are mixed with other (more Northern and more blonde) Euros they would still not need to be mixed with them to be more blonde than the plebs.

Travel around Italy - or anywhere in Southern Europe - and you'll realise what's going on.

>>513488095
They can't even pretend they aren't completely intermixed so now they just claim they bred the Turks out of existence.

Meaning the savages we've known throughout history as the Ottomans are actually Greeks. Unfortunately, since the Greeks lack the DNA of their claimed classical Greece ancestors, they're too stupid to see that this makes them look very bad.

>>513488188
>Americans are majority blond as well.
Patently false, there are more brown haired American whites than blondes.

>>513488334
>Travel around Italy - or anywhere in Southern Europe - and you'll realise what's going on.
Yeah it's called subhumans breed like rats and eventually intermix with the native populations.

Then the glorious country becomes like it's subhuman population. For example:

>be Greece
>creator of Western civilization, invent democracy, pwn in wars, whoop Persia, Archimedes
>get raped by Barbarians and then Turks
>do nothing of note for 2000 years

>be Rome
>create the greatest empire in history
>heart of civilization, countless authors, poets, inventors, genius military leaders, Caesar, Cicero
>swallow all manners of Barbarian cum
>everything south of (Germanic) Northern Italy doesn't do shit for 2000 years

Same case with Egypt and India. Many such cases, actually.

>>513482673 (OP)
>>513484808
What is in the middle and why is there a turk there and so many italians

>>513488188
>we talk about blonde hair
>starts talking about brown eyes

Even if half of whitish Amerimutts were blonde that would make America 25% blonde.
Literally less blonde than France or Switzerland or Austria.
But the numbers are actually much less than that.
Perhaps a third of Americans are blonde, say, like in most of non Southern Europe.
That would make America about 15% blonde.
Like Southern Europe.

But probably only 20% of Americans are blonde.
Which would make America 10% blonde. Again Southern European levels but still probably inferior to Portugal and Greece. And all of Europe.

>>513488883
american whites are REALLY white

you're coping by using the shitskin mexican invaders to pump up your stats Pedro

>>513487686
>What it actually shows is that Turkey is made up of the preexisting inhabitants.
Yep. Only a retard would believe that Turkics from Mongolia would be that genetically similar to Greeks and other European population.

>>513488883
I lived in the US. On the whole they are majority non-white, sure. However, if you count just the white ones, they are much more pure than Europeans. Amerimutt is just a meme.

>>513482673 (OP)
context?

>>513482673 (OP)
no, Greeks have little actual Ottoman DNA, it's just pre-Ottoman Anatolian ancestry which flooded Italy and Greece, you could call it the proto-Byzantine cluster, most modern Greeks are basically Byzantine+Slav

>>513483966
They are the same stock as Socrates. He was a craftsman, not a noble.

>>513488095
I'll bite.
First I'll say that I forgive you. You are a Meximutt. You see History through your own lense.
As you have been fucked by the Spaniards into oblivion for the last 500 years in wave after wave of Spanish settlement... and that are the half of you who got lucky because the other half was so disgusting that continue to be full blown Amerindian niggers to these days... it's somewhat natural that you project that "experience" to the rest of the world.

But let me educate you:
Despite being the capital of the Ottoman Empire for 500 years, Constantinople was always a Greek majority city all the way to World War One.
In that city since the moslems took power the organisation was in segregated neighbourhoods based on religion and then further divided by ethnicity inside the religiously different areas.
Turks lived in the moslem area. But it was a hugely Greek city always. There probably were more Armenians than Turks in Constantinople throughout those 500 years but certainly so since the 1700s.
There was even a significant amount of "Latins" who were Italian tradesmen, and obviously: There were jewish quarters too.

To finalise: When the Turks conquered the city most Greeks had left Constantinople.
Meaning that Constantinople was just a shadow of its former self, it was greately diminished in population.
By the time the Turks took Constantinople most Greeks were already subjugated by the Turks as it was the last city to fall.
And by the way in those times there was a huge immigration of the Greek elite from Constantinople (mainly, but also a bit throughout Greek inhabited islands in both sides of the Eagean) to Europe, mostly Italy and France.

Mexico (and the Americas) is not a good example as how life goes in the rest of the (more civilised) world.

>>513482673 (OP)
You have to be a special kind of retard to make that conclusion from this.
This follows geography of Europe very closely.
Turks are mostly of Anatolian descent.

>>513488684
This gotta be bait!

The degeneration we see in the USA today is unique.
It never happened anywhere else. Not in Rome and not in Greece.
(Although in Helenistic times... but it was just the Greeks refusing to returning home instead of Greeks importing niggers to Greece).

Read a book one of these days, anon.
You're the kind of retard that says that England lost its Empire because it imported too many niggers to England in the eve of WWII and point to London as proof because it's so non white.

>>513488997
>american whites are REALLY white

Lol
Lmao
To America, perhaps.
And too Mexico, perhaps.

Tell me buddy, if Americans are so white why most long standing Mexicans in America (South Texas) think they're white too?

We just have to walk through your major cities and get to know your tourists to see how "white" most American "whites" really are.

Tell me bro, of those white Americans... what is the % of jews?
What is the % of Egyptians and Gypsy mutts?
How many are Mexican tier mestizos for mutting it up with Indians in Kentucky and Tennessee?

You put an Englishmen or a German or an Irishmen side by side with the average American "white" and 2 out of 3 the difference if glaring.
The American is the one that looks Mexican or Brazilian.

>>513489040
>Americans are much more pure than Europeans

What the flying fuck am I reading?
What would even be the process through which they achieved that... ... destilation of purity?

If you knew Australians you could say they look more British than the average Euro but Americans?

>if you count just the white ones
It appears you're only counting those with extreme light features and not accepting some 80% plus of the whites in America but okay.

>>513488998
>Muh two countries in Italy!

>>513489040
>they are much more pure than Europeans
this deserves a shitpost

>>513482673 (OP)
Nope, it just proves that there's no such thing as Turkish nation, just the Osman tribe creating a mafia state that incorporated the inhabitants of the region.

>>513482673 (OP)
Top left is Indo-European
Top right is indigenous northern european
Bottom is indigenous med / southern european

>>513490034
>What country in Europe would those whites taken together resemble the most?

I don't know, I'd say either Armenia or Lebanon. But they're too fat and dysmorphic to include anywhere really.

>>513489040
>Americans are much more pure than Europeans

>>513490462
White ones are. Of course you can always find some Mexicans that look brown, but white Americans are very white.

>>513490596
you watched the video?

>>513487686
it also shows that north balkans is just natives with a moderate foreign admixture
hungary, croatia, serbia are practically one group, compare to germany, austria
kinda crazy how far serbia/turkey and italy/croatia are

>>513491613
Why is it crazy?
They all have totally different Histories.

>>513487887
>10-15%
>central Italy
>Spain
>Corsica
>southern France

>>513488840
Sicilians.

>>513492002
what you mean? its more or less?

>>513491700
italy historically lays claim to a good bit of croatia, they had their own concentration camps for croats and slovenes in ww2 and got kicked out of croatia after the war
as for serbia and turkey, we did generally have very little contact with turks since janissaries were stationed here, but there were 20k families settled here at one point (also kicked out into bulgaria/turkey), I just assumed there'd be more population mingling

>>513489966
Do some research, the genetics of N.Italy and S.Italy are VERY DIFFERENT.

>>513483141
never happened
seems you are a product of mixing with polish and asians, german asskisser wannabe 'fellow white'
>>513486667
hot weather + seaside

>>513494684
youre map doesnt show north and southern italy
stupid fuck

>>513486580
There are more blonde whites here than in entirety of ex Yugoslavia.

>>513483053
>or that Turks and Greeks are the same exact brown native group with some admixture from various elites that came in and ruled

That's my take on it. The only way to know is gene testing of ancient remains and comparing it.

>>513496340
Do some research, the genetics of N.Italy and S.Italy are VERY DIFFERENT.

>>513497255
whatever

>>513482673 (OP)
Turk here, I did a DNA test a while ago and got 100% European. That's why you see those all around in the chart.

Turks used to be actual white people. Throughout centuries of being invaded and just letting non whites rape and pillage our land, we have gotten to this point.

>>513497983
royals dont count

Where are the most women like this though?

>>513483966
Italy is a net cucktributor to EU senpai. So sorry.
>>513482673 (OP)
What do you think roaches are? Unholy mutts of Arabs, Greeks, unlucky slavs, & actual Chinks.