Thread 513485435

I'm not that invested in either side but are the formerly-Ukranian citizens of Crimea (and other Russian-annexed territories) worse or better off under Russian rule?

>>513485435 (OP)
Crimeans say the peninsula was in shambles under the Ukrainian rule, and everything changed after Russia came because Russia invests tons of shekels in it. It gets more money than Chechnya and Saint Petersburg.

>>513485435 (OP)
Worse off obviously, Russia is a shithole, anti West, and the bad guy

>>513485435 (OP)
it has stayed the same and life for these people will not change much at all

>>513485552
Urinians enforce their shitty language on everyone. If crimea stayed in the Pigteich, all the inhabitants would have been forced to speak the hohlooink.

>>513485436
>CRIMIEA SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME AND FOR VAST MILLENIA SINCE THEM WAS PART OF THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE

>>513485435 (OP)
Ukraine is feces

Stupid janniggers moving the thread so we can't have a nuanced discussion on /int/

ask them when they get back from the frontline when their conscription in the special ed military operation is over..

>>513485435 (OP)

Wait, THAT'S what Crimea looks like? I thought it was some gray port town or something, now I get it.

>>513485436
>It gets more money than Chechnya and Saint Petersburg.
so close to nothing

up

>>513486679
Why are you hiding in Poland?

>>513487350
why are you acting like an idiot?

>>513486120
Russia has been owning crimea for longer than the USA exist.

>>513485435 (OP)
Nothing happened other than losing ability to vote in a meaningful manner

>>513488463
>Russia has been owning crimea for longer than the USA exist.
I just finished "War and Peace". Ukraine has been under arms for hundreds of years.

>>513487350
You know why

>>513488463
Actually, the US declaration of independence happened 9 years prior to Crimea being incorporated into Muscovy

>>513485435 (OP)
They are Russians though primarily. Crimea was literally given to the Ukrainian SSR by Kruschev in the 50's. Also Ukraine never existed historically either but that's another story with profound implications for everything.

>>513489482
Crimea historically isn't Russian or Ukrainian. It's had many rulers over the years. It was Greek influenced in antiquity on the coasts, but ruled by steppe nomads in the interior. Then mongols. Then muslim (Khanate and Ottomans) for hundreds. The muslims were bastards as muslims tend to be and ran a slave trade from it, capturing slavic slaves inland and selling them muslims and meds. Then it was annexed by Russia (Muscovy) but still had a muslim population. They were deported during and after WW2 and Russians moved in. Ukraine as a population and a culture has existed for a long time, since ancient Rus, although they tend to be under the rule of outside powers frequently.

>>513490064
It's Russian historically anon. It was even part of Kievan Rus (including Sevastopol) in like the 900's. In fact it's historically important to all east Slavs because they all have the same history and this particular episode is part of that. If you really want to get into the history of it, long ago it was inhabited by the Scythians, the same people eastern slavs also assimilated, was part of the Byzantine empire later and was Christian long before any mudslim ever set foot in there, that was a result of the mongol invasion and it's aftermath.

>>513485435 (OP)
Better. Under Ukraine it was a shithole with the only thing of importance being that Russia wants it.
Under Russia it became a major tourist center. The whole of Ukraine was literally built to serve the rest of the Soviet Union, whether it's tourism or industry. Without Russia it's just fields and abandoned infrastructure

>>513485435 (OP)
The Same people the same shit,

>>513485436
No they don’t say that if you ask people they say it was become more expensive when Russia came and there are a lot of fsb and military presence way more then before. Some say when Russia came they appropriated many Ukrainians businesses as well

>>513492572
We can only hope

>>513485435 (OP)
No probably not. Russia is a real shithole.

>>513485435 (OP)
They all had referendums and are predominantly ethnic Russian. They tend to side with Russia when Ukraine starts doing ethnic cleansing against them ever since the US backed Maidan coup.

>>513492847
Compared to Ukraine its fucking Shangi La

>>513492782
>Some say when Russia came they appropriated many Ukrainians businesses as well
You like those belonging to Kholomoisky?

>>513493065
>you like
You mean like*

>>513486120
Kek, just needs cucked Carlson looking intensely

>>513485435 (OP)
>are the formerly-Ukranian citizens of Crimea worse or better off under Russian rule?
I'm sure they like getting bombed.

>>513492782
>some people say...

>>513486679
oriental arab slavic kike hybrids

>>513485435 (OP)
Looks nice honestly

>>513485436
They went from total zioglobohomo to Russian revivalist economy. Many other countries are watching closely. NATO on suicide watch

>>513485435 (OP)
Crimea was always Russia's, and full of predominantly ethnic and Russian speaking populace, it was only loaned for use to Ukraine by the Trotskyist traitor, Kruschev, who was formally ousted for his policy performance sucking so hard, his habitual lying/revisionist history, which largely lead to the Sino-Soviet split.