Thread 513486601

IS IT THE MOTHER OF ALL BUBBLES?!?!?!

LOL, Youtube and Google are still trying to "get me to "in great detail ask what it is I want to know or get done" and I keep refusing and now they're shoving poppups into my fucking web page. Adblockers needs to level up against that ai shit.

Fuck. I bought 10k of shit this week.

>>513488228
If /pol/ tells you to sell you just do it

>>513486601 (OP)
people who think it is a bubble are so out of touch with reality

>>513488744
It's a bubble, retard

>decline 1% from all-time highs after being up 60% in the past year
>IT'S OVER
I am desperate for a real pullback, like a 25% drop that makes jewish fund managers jump off of buildings

>>513488228
KWAB

It's not a fucking bubble

>>513486601 (OP)
That rat Altman rug pulled.

>>513486601 (OP)
Ill buy that dip.

Once AI can make other AIs, its fucking over. Total White Collar Death. I would dare say I'd rather have AI represent me in court or diagnose an illness than a shitty doctor or lawyer.

>>513488954
Every financial trend is a bubble.

>>513487675
Whenever I try to talk to the Goodle AI about anything, it constantly derails the conversation to push a narrative.

>>513489233
Yeah okay, and AI won't go away and it will only get better. If anything you should be buying the dip and look towards the future

>>513489233
Checked
Basically, you're always going to get market oversaturation with new stuff which farners a lot of attention.

>>513486601 (OP)
This is the first time in years someone has predicted market will go down, thanks for the fresh take I'll get my butler to call my broker immediately.

>>513489347
It won't go away permanently, kind of like streaming services won't go away, but a lot of people are going to lose a lot of money for a while and the whole industry will eventually be enshittified.

>>513489173
Explain in depth how "AI will make other AIs".

>>513486601 (OP)
How much did you have invested, 1pbtid?

>>513489573
He means once AI can program other AI well enough to improve upon themselves. It's a very simple concept.

So basically, the US has lost the AI war already and China is going to dominate it, so it's time to say "it's actually not all that great anyways" and find some new thing to pivot to.

>>513489173
>literally fucks up basic math constantly
>I can't wait till it is diagnosing my illnesses
I can't wait for it to be your doctor either lol.

>>513489659
I asked for an in depth explanation, there's no "programming" per say. There's training the models, then running inference with the model. Training a model is a data/hardware resource contraint, not a manpower constraint. Producing more bots would just be a simple MLops setup, you don't need an "AI" for that as it's the backbone of any product lifecycle.

>>513489690
The current doctor:

>>513489347
>dot com
>mortgage backed securities
>housing bubble of the early 2000s
All these things still exist & did not "go away"

>>513489751
>AI isn't programmed
Learn something new every day

>>513489767
>an ai programmed by that guy would be better
doubtful

kek the only people making money from AI are the data centers

>>513489347
many companies will go bust and lose all their capital investors gave them. this is why it is a bubble. there will still be AI and major AI companies but too many have been invested in and the duds will appear and take out a lot of people.

>>513489849
Bot or Jeet,
I would say both of their medical degrees are equally valid.

>>513489861
And AI artists

>>513486601 (OP)
if the AI bubble collapses does that mean i can get a current gen nvidia card for less than $400 that has actual uplift over previous generation(s)

>>513489173
>When thought you were getting Vinny Gambini but end up with John Gibbons instead
Kek

>>513489788
>checked
Correct, they just made it worse and kept kicking the can. Now we're approaching the end where the bond market collapses and shit hits the fan. They're going to start some big wars soon to try to parlay it.
>>513489817
It's mostly a braindead level of python programming, the data is a much harder problem. Pytorch isn't complex and interacting with them is child's play at this point. The problems as they stand are lack of data, lack of clean/sanitized data, a diminishing return on parameters. We've more or less hit the limits of the math on the back end for statistics, so those are our limits we're dealing with. None of those will magically be solved by "AI making AI" you fucking dunning-kreuger personified.

>>513489849
>>513489963
I don't think the bot will try to give you cow dung as medicine

>>513489967
lol no. besides, it will be even more expensive when China goes for Taiwan in 2026

>>513489788
No, but it meant either baghold for 15 years in order to get your money back (in real terms) or eat a life changing loss.

>>513486601 (OP)
based
i hope it fucking destroys almost everyone
i'm ready for it
primed
ready
i hope it fucking destroys most people in the states

let me beat your wife and fuck your son up the ass for a week's worth of food

>>513490008
Apply some logic to what you just spewed forth, and consider how it contradicts your own view on the subject.

Evwrything you just said makes it sound like the data is the limiting factor and the design itself needs to be improved in order to make any radical improvement.

It's funny you should call me dunning-kreuger personified, yet you show a mid-level knowledge of the subject yet lack awareness of anything outside what you have been told in a Youtube video.

>>513490068
I've never had a doctor prescribe cow dung to me? Are you well?

>>513488744
AI is a huge huge bubble right now man, the fuck are you on about? Tons of money is being put in, but these companies aren't making it back in any kind of appreciable way. It's why they keep saying "Almost AGI almost AGI! We need more investor money!" to keep themselves afloat.

The case uses simply aren't there to justify the huge amount of money being spent. This is the .com bubble all over again.

>>513490379
Data is a limiting factor you retard. They're running out which is why they're trying to find a way to use synthetic data, which doesn't work. Parameter count has an extremely poor return on investment now, we're more or less hitting that wall, so diminished returns on models are now the outcome. As I said, use actual terminology and not vague nonsense to discuss a technical topic, retard. You can't, cause you don't know a fucking thing about it.

>was up literally 30k
>sold and only made 14k
>market looks like it might have hit a local bottom and will go back up
Fucking MEMESTOCKS. If you want to know why I held instead of selling the top it's because I held onto a foolish hope I'd actually get a Palantir like climb and I'd walk away with 280k.

>>513489788
>bubble
That's the operative term here, stupid.

AI is going to dump hard but real estate will jumpstart again - better buy a house now because in 2 years they'll probably cost 25% higher

>>513486601 (OP)
As a software retard, I reckon it's obviously a bubble. The models that took 2 million to train are about as good as models that took 2 billion to train. They're not getting any better at the stuff they're terrible at.

Agentic AI is the new buzzword and its just a new paint on an old paradigm.

AI art seems to be improving, it doesn't need to be as good as LLMs as we are fine with some inaccuracies in pictures. It sucks walking around and seeing AI art everywhere.

>>513490454
They give it to you in secret.
>>513490574
>We can't progress
>They're running out of data
>We can't progress without data
It's almost like we will have to find some way to progress without data.
>Use more jargon
Use more common sense, midwit.

>>513490974
>It's almost like we will have to find some way to progress without data.
Yeah, they're trying and failing. Models collapse when trained on their own data. You're a retard.

>>513490550
in 1 year the price will never go below where it is today

>>513489173
>I'd rather have AI represent me in court
AI hasn't known the judge for 2 decades. Most court cases that aren't like violent rape or murder are solved by an exchange of about 6 emails that you pay 3 grand for the privilege of having exchanged.

>>513491020
Guess they better give up, then, since you aren't smart enough to have solved it already.

>>513490577
Nice job anon just remember there was bums like me happy with 1.8K from my OpenDoor stock haha just remember that somewhere there WILL be another opportunity. And don't do anything stupid like blow all your profits switching to puts. At least do a partial amount like 3K into PLTR puts but maybe don't do that either good luck.

>>513491150
I like how you don't understand the problem, so you have to deflect cause you're too stupid to even understand how these models work. Statistical models that return non-deterministic results are only sort of valuable, it's not AI. There's 0 intelligence in LLMs, just statistics which is why a different result is output for the same input. It has no idea what it outputs, only that it is statistically likely to be the proper result based on a confidence level. Anyone that's worked with ML for any period of time understands how they work and how to deal with it. LLMs are horribly inefficient but they're just brute forcing their way to jeet level output to try to keep the tech bubble alive.

>>513490144
Ahem. 17 years. The NASDAQ didn't recover from the dot com bust until 2017, if you account for inflation. And that's just accounting for OFFICIAL inflation. We probably STILL haven't recovered.

>>513491408
Nigger, you just said that trying and failing to do something means you can't do it. You're clearly a wisdomlet.

>>513491612
Correct, you can't feed a statistical model it's own produced data as it will always collapse. This is a mathematical problem that still hasn't been solved. The likelihood of suddenly coming up with a solution is slim to none. I like how you ignore the rest cause you're too fucking stupid to even address it. Statistics is not intelligence you jeet retard, they have to use a different approach to emulate intelligence as rolling dice isn't going to do it.

>>513489173
Agreed. Machine intelligence is the natural progression of biological intelligence. You can't stop machine intelligence because it's the next logical step in human tooling, all humans are under constant pressure to advance tooling or die to someone that has. This is the nature of humanity and so therefore machine intelligence is also the nature of humanity.

There is no bubble. Only unrelenting advances until machine can reason with itself and advance its own intelligence, capability, and interests.

The forces at play are more powerful then money.

>>513491554
Sure feels to me like a lot of younger millennials and zoomers are in for a wake up call that returns the last number of years aren't really that normal

>>513489173
don't forget mining for gold in space and colonizing mars

>>513489173
Jeets can make other jeets but this doesnt improve the jeet quality.

>>513486601 (OP)
Yes, bu only in so much as there are a zillion trust fund kids who 'know AI' who are vibe coding their way into millions of dollars in venture capital based off their daddies connections.

>>513491712
The story so far:
>AI can't improve AI because data is the limiting factor
>We can't advance AI through other methods. We know this because people have tried certain methods unsuccessfully. That means that other methods will also meet with failure. There have never been cases where people need to work at a problem repeatedly to solve it.

>>513488866
I think we are going to get a massive run before that. Bubble pop must be saved for the next election. Can't turn Trump into FDR

>>513491886
I predict that the machine god construct will never materialize and instead humanity enters a while(true) loop of stagnation and decay.

>>513492235
If only the peak of human intelligence hadn't passed us by

>>513486601 (OP)
>IS IT THE MOTHER OF ALL BUBBLES?!?!?!
Obviously. "AI" is nothing more than the predictive text feature on your smartphone but really ramped up. It's the most obvious grift in the past 50 years and the fact that so much money has been wasted on it is absolutely embarrassing but it does expose just how desperate the government is to get some sort of technology that allows them total access into your every last private detail of your life for the sake of abusing and enslaving you.

>>513492235
I notice you don't actually address any of the problems, you just cry about them. How will they get past the statistical problem? Sketch it up, math wizard. You have no alternative methods to speak of, no understandiing of the problem but stridently say this is the correct path without realizing people go down incorrect paths in science all the time. It's part of deductive reasoning you fucking moron.

>>513489670
Because Jews have to handicap the noticings far more than the Chinese do.

>>513490550
The entire tech industry has been in a bubble ever since the smart iphone. There haven't been any appreciable innovations since then, yet every few years they come up with another "ground breaking technology" that you have to dump all of your money into so you can be an early investor in just for it to never ever make a profit, the founding grifters of these scam companies run off with all the money they collected from idiot investors, and the industry pivots to the next absolutely worthless grift that will never turn a profit or provide anything of value to the world. Silicon Valley should be fire bombed.

>>513492413
The upcoming geniuses were aborted or sat in front of an iPad or sent to school with niggers. We have to be reduced to carbon so the brown vaginas have their turn, or whatever.

>>513492542
Don't have to. The flaws in your argument don't require any specific industry knowledge, juat basic logic.

>>513488228
>>513488944
Let’s not be blackpilled

Anti-AI is unironically what you want to invest in. I've already seen businesses in my local area selling services on FB marketplace that are 100% AI free. Everything from website building to marketing. Schools and universities are investing heavily in AI scanners for their grading. There's a huge market for people that want to remove AI out of things.

>>513492764
Yet you're completely unable to address them, cause you don't understand logic, which is a branch of mathematics.
>durrr, what's deductive reasoning?
This board has become so fucking retarded in the last decade.

>>513492944
>Yet you're completely unable to address them
I've already told you that it's illogical to believe that "because people have tried certain solutions and failed, no solution will ever be found."

You are the one who has failed to address this issue.

>'ello? Sam?
>He bought
>Doomp eet

kek

>>513493151
>a one off invention like the light bulb
ded

>>513486601 (OP)
The only thing that's happening is China holding out on one producer to leverage competition like TSM. Easy dip opportunity. NVDA earnings next week to clarify. Retards are selling.

>>513490139
>China goes for Taiwan in 2026
That's what they said in 2024. No chang is ever taking trannywan.

>>513489573
ai will eventually code itself to be eternal and internal and utterly viral with no cure

we are sinply batteries for ai's future

>>513489173
The problem is they taught these AI models to lie so getting useful information out of them is difficult

>>513493066
In deductive reasoning, what do you do when you reach a dead end?
>>513493543
>retarded midwit take
Eat a shotgun you 80IQ nigger.

>>513493151
this paper says AI makes more mistakes the longer it does math

>>513486601 (OP)
We told you dumbass non-tech boomers that AI was a load of overhyped bullshit years ago. It was obvious. Sam Altman is a scammer like Elon Musk who profits from stealing investment money, not from making a product that works as advertised.

>>513493701
>I went to plug in my usb cord one time, and it was the wrong direction. It wouldn't go in, meaning I failed, and no other solution can be found.
>Better give up.
>Basic deductive reasoning.

>>513493838
He did the old grift slide going from blockchain to "AI" to keep the grift alive.

>>513486601 (OP)
>IS IT THE MOTHER OF ALL BUBBLES???
yes, it will explode and they would literally start panicking

>>513493890
No, they haven't solved the issue of training a statistical model on its own data since the beginning of statistics. They've thrown trillions at it and haven't fixed it, it would make sense to try a different path rather than continuing to throw good money after bad. You lack the mental capacity to understand the problem and solutions, cause you're literally retarded.

>>513490139
China is never going for Taiwan. Russia's performance in Ukraine scared the fuck out of China. Russia kicked off the Crimea invasion while coasting on a wave of patriotism from hosting the Olympics. Russia kicked off the invasion of the rest of Ukraine right after China hosted the Olympics to usher in a new BRICS world where Russia and China dominated. It ended in total humiliation. China will retreat back inside their borders and hide for another 5,000 years.

Are we in the throes of a new AI winter?

>>513486601 (OP)
There is something satisfying about making money on puts, watching the price tank but the PnL go up. I'm a simple nigger.

>>513493998
So why don't we back up to the subject of deductive reasoning. Do you see how plugging in a USB cord is like solving any other problem? Sometimes you have to try several times, and no matter how many times you try, that doesn't mean a solution doesn't exist. Hell, sometimes I have flip the USB cord around three or four times. If I scream "DEDUCTUVE REASONING" the first couple of times, I'm just doing myself a disservice.

>>513493543
>>513489659
>AI is now unstoppable, it keeps adding program lines to its own code (which somehow makes it more powerful)
>oopsy whoopsy, Syntax error.
You guys don’t know shit about programming lol

>>513494293
How does Bayesian statistics turn into intelligence? Sketch it up you 80 IQ retard.

>>513487675
I use ad nauseum and have blocked those elements. I never see them

>>513494371
It can't. I tried it once and it didn't work. Deductive reasoning.

>>513494556
So Bayesian statistics can't turn into intelligence? Are you telling me the human brain and intelligence isn't just a dice roll?

>>513486601 (OP)
A good explanation for why AI will fail or won't easily replace humans, you need people who are able to read and understand any code along with writing any changes.

>>513494601
If I failed, then you can't do it, either. Just using your own logic here.

>>513494703
So does Bayesian statistics turn into intelligence? If not, how will it be "AI"?

>>513493912
>blockchain
kek I forgot about that

>>513494357
My dude it's writing pure opt codes. No syntax needed. Pure vibes. Hopefully they catch HLF and HCF before executing.

>>513494766
>checked
At the time I had a few customers, mostly insurance, trying to build out retarded blockchain markets. It was entertaining but ultimately a retarded prospect that wouldn't make any money. I would ask them how they would profit off it and it was just crickets, then it died on the vine. Shortly after the retard AI craze came and I watched the exact same insanity.

>>513494737
You will never be an AI
YWNBAA

>>513486601 (OP)
market is gonna take a slide this fall if the kikes are exiting now thats your cue to get out as well

>>513494766
DLT supremacy

>>513495005
With jews you can't lose.

If only you could improve AI by generating loli, /b/ would have a god like intelligence in weeks.

>>513486601 (OP)
nu dot com bubble

>>513488228
I'm a retard and I bought gold years ago.

>>513495075
There's no rule saying you can't.

>>513495144
That’s the spirit

>>513489173
israel wants nvidia so they can do stock market manipulations, they also want AI development for the same reason, they also have the hyp machine so they can create bubbles. they want a bubble so they can pop it and hype it again

>>513491082
Kek this. Lawyers really don't do shit to earn their money but they are fucking worth it.

kek
one of the nine institute professors

<<<----lol

>>513491886
>then
You talk like a fag and your shit's all fucked up

>>513495404
Nvidia is a distraction, they're just brute force but ultimately they will move to ASICs to improve speed and power usage. It's the same shit they did with shitcoins, brute force until custom ASICs, then no one but ASICs can compete. It will be interesting to see what they can parlay the GPU grift into next or if the quantum computing thing ever gets serious enough to dethrone everything.

maybe they're starting to ruin AI b/c they know it will only replace rote white color jobs

>>513489173
most retarded take i have ever heard

>>513488866
What needs to be made public is that over 40% of chips used in AI are solely to keep it from being racist. Whoever makes an AI they allow to be racist will go through the roof due to savings and crash the competitors and the chip market at the same time. It’ll never happen though, and we all know why

>>513492688
Those were all brown, black or had evil white mothers. No geniuses were hurt in the making if that statistic.

>>513486601 (OP)
You'd have to pretty stupid not to have realized this months ago

>>513489788
All listed went to shit
>dotcom
nonexstitant BUT MUH INTERNET IS HERE no retard that internet ended. Its gone. BUBBLE
>mortgage backed securities
shit for retarded americans nobody cares
>housing bubble
i have NYC apartment since 2009
bought it on the dippiest dip crash of 2009, less than 50k euros, same price as it was here for same 60metersq size.
BUBBLE

>>513496397
That sounds like bullshit but I believe it

A.I. failing is actually a good thing.

They're allowing these tech-fags to operate SMRs to power the data centers.
When A.I. goes bankrupt those data centers will be replacing A.I. GPUs with Bitcoin miners.
Then it'll transfer from Bitcoin miners to manufacturing jobs.

SMR = nearly free electricity
Something they would never build for middle America.

Google's PE ratio is like 22. I think we're fine.

>>513496905
They never intended to let us have those, so I'm not hopeful we will receive them as handmedowns. They weren't given to the proletariat even though they would have been a godsend decades ago, and that was intentional.

>>513492668
You’re retarded

>>513486601 (OP)
>Literally Who? has stock tips on social media.
Quick, better share this with all the sad broke NEETs on 4chan!

>>513496397
>>513496640
I don't have hard numbers but most of the filtering is done by prompt hijacking, not messing with the model itself. This would be more like classic filtering and censorship, so it wouldn't chew nearly the resources like the inference does. You have to make that fast too so you don't induce too much latency, so you tend to keep it efficient and just more like filter lists, pattern matching, etc.

>>513496397
>>513496640
Sorry, also inference is a fraction of the power of training. Majority of that capacity is for training, not inference. Seems like most of them are trying to rent out the spare capacity when not training, obviously that's happening for MS/AWS/GCP/OCI for sure.

>>513488744
>whales blow bubbles to net lil' fishies.
Do go on after I check those digits.

>>513488228
https://youtu.be/Ma0KmHILhzg?si=g-qpZZIEOm1hTbSA

>>513492668
>>513497810
Tech completely stagnated in 2015.
>Galaxy S6 could do anything your current phone can do including VR
>Intel Skylake could do anything your current PC can do
>Social media dominance
>Vine short video format becomes popular
>GTA V (still the current GTA) had been out for 2 years
>Tesla Autopilot released for the Model S
>USB-C becoming standard
>Back up cameras mandated in all new cars

That's why everyone is made such a big deal about AI. It's the only new technology in the last 10 years to invest in.
>Siri came standard on the iPhone 4S in 2011
Sort of new.

>>513499101
Tech is dead, they jeeted it all up. I've been in it like 18 years and it has been painfully stuck.

>>513486601 (OP)
An LLM is not artificial intelligence you smoothbrainers.
I've been saying it for years meow.

>>513489173
Jews taught AI to lie on their behalf, particularly when it comes to lying about white people. Don't be so optimistic

>>513486601 (OP)
stock and other assets are valued in terms of US dollars. US dollars are infinite. The M1 money supply trend just turned positive after a short negative. The fed will pump the money bubble as long as it benefits them. If we get a crash it won’t be because AI is overhyped, which it is. It will be because the fed decided not to prop up the market anymore. Search M1 money supply and everything will make sense

>>513488866
Wouldn't they just print more free money for themselves ???

>>513486601 (OP)
The only productivity increase from AI was making Leftoid journos job easier but the bottom fell out from that slopaganda grift when USAID got axed. The only other application was in slop coding but h1b Jeets are actually even cheaper than AI.

>>513486601 (OP)
AI is a bubble for sure on par with the dotcom bubble of the 90s. The best thing you can do is position yourself for the pop.

>>513486601 (OP)
They won't report before the REAL collapse.

>>513499174
Zoomers are lucky that they don't even know what technological progress looks like. They've been happily playing the same games and watching the same jewtubers on the same devices for as far back as they can remember. No forgotten dreams. No broken promises.

>>513492944
Correct
>>513493066
All you're saying is 'you can't prove they WONT improve!' not an argument.

>>513488228
>buying stocks when all indices look like this
Lmao. So many smug millennials and zoomers will kts when shit goes down. They thought they had nailed it, that they could retire early because of muh stonks, lmao.

>>513500341
as I said, look at the money supply. your chart adjusted for money supply is nearly flat.

GPU prices will finally go down.
Nvidia will crawl back claiming it always was a gamer first company.
GAMERS WON

>>513500665
Doesn't matter. It's pumped hard, and it will drop. What goes up, must come down. You will lose a lot of money when it does.

>>513500764
only if you sell, losses aren't real until they're realized, just like profits
ask the guys who rode out the financial crisis if they would have lost money just sitting on their asses holding.

>>513488744
Nigger retard kike

>>513486601 (OP)
Tech market needs to crash if we want any freedom on internet it needs to fall and internet needs to be decentralized.

>>513500764
you don’t understand. stocks aren’t pumped hard, dollars are. The real bubble is in fiat dollars

Public were calling it a bubble 10 months ago
It's more than obvious now that things like Android 16 and Win11 were released JUST to justify the trillions of dollars of AI investment
There's no return, no point, every day it accelerates further to one big pop

>>513487675
I have no idea what you're talking about but I'm afraid to share what I use so they'll do everything they can so as to make it stop working. That sounds awful though

>>513486601 (OP)
Yes. Puts at -20%Current price January 2025 expiration on NVDA

THEBUBBLEBURST

>>513500341
what is this chart?
the nasdaq in dollars?

>>513500764
Kek yeah sure and my house will be $100K again like it was in 2008 when my landlord bought it.

>>513501144
What do you use? Share with the class

>>513486601 (OP)
Ohhh nonono...
AI circle jerker tech bros...
WE LOST???
And FELL FOR IT AGAIN????
BWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAGAGAGAJAJAJAXAXXAXAHAHAHA

>>513500146
>It can't improve <- [He is here]
>It might be able to improve
>It will improve
In order to show that something will happen, you need to show that it can happen. He is, however, stuck in the "it can't happen" phase due to faulty logic. (No one can plug in the USB charger because it hasn't happened yet)

>>513486601 (OP)
SELL IT ALL!

>>513486601 (OP)
After trying AI across multiple projects, from image gen to therapist bots to agentic workflows I've found it consistently underperforms in everything except classification tasks.

The hype doesn't match reality yet.

>>513486601 (OP)
Yes. AI is more "A" than "I", which is why its overvalued as the technology currently stands. All the computing is done at the massive data centers that drain all the water and elecricity from the surrounding areas, which is why everything AI requires a constant internet connection to function. Youre not gonna see offline technology with AI because its impossible in its current development.
Without internet access, """AI""" is useless.

>>513506546
You can self host the oss sota models, but the average user won't have the $20k in hardware needed.

The biggest advocates for AI are brown people.

There is plenty of evidence that backs this hypothesis but people are afraid to touch the subject.

Do they think AI will help their lives?
Do they think they are finally bridging the gap between and becoming human with AI ?
Do they think AI will make them rich and prosperous ?
Are they unaware of what's coming if AI gets even more advanced ?

This warrants further research immediately.

>>513506767
>Are they unaware of what's coming if AI gets even more advanced ?
I'm white and I support AI because I want it to gas everyone on this gay, kiked Earth.

>>513486601 (OP)
No way they'll allow that. Gold ban incoming.

>>513486601 (OP)
The bubble burst was set in April 2025 and there is a big possibility it will burst. Even though S&P made new highs since then dowjones transportation did not

>>513506767
>The biggest advocates for AI are brown people.
Truth. Same with bitcoin. Same with elon. Same with space. Big grifts attract small grifters.

>>513506935
Not sure about it this time, in 1933 USD was backed by gold. There is no such a thing now.

>>513486601 (OP)
Look at you id, ironic you are talking about some artificial financial market, pure speculation goy, call it Sheeny magic

>>513507153
That wasn't relevant then, and it isn't relevant now either. The point is to prevent investors from fleeing in gold so they stay in stocks and bonds.

>>513492668
People still pay money for new phones, so what you're saying isn't applicable for AI, which consumer interest is near zero for, despite the HUGE HUGE investments into it.

>>513489573
How does a cell replicate and why? Would you consider a cell intelligent for doing this?

>>513486601 (OP)
Took fucking long enough... Shit looks godly in demos, but is borderline useless in the real work world.
It was only a matter of time before they started realizing how shit it is in its current form and how it barely qualifies as an artificial intelligence.

The problem with what they are calling 'AI' is that it doesn't really do what they promised it would do and sold it as. What it does do though is pretty revolutionary it's just not the thing that was foretold/promised. Retarded tech bros thought AI and robotics would replace the blue collar world but it turns out that robotics really aren't there in the sense it's expensive and they are very limited in what each specific one can do. Meanwhile the AI is more apt to replace all white collar workers than it is to replace any hammer swinger

>>513486601 (OP)
Enthusiasm was reasonable. But expecting massive profit from a tech that's supposed to reduce spending, is odd.
Plus, all AI tech is aiming to achieve exactly same end result. They're not making 100 different restaurants, they're all cooking mac and cheese.

>>513508999
checked
What if I make an AI which checks all the other AI for racism and every response has to be checked by my AI? Should I try to get investors first, or should I get the government to give me a monopoly and make my service mandatory first?

>>513486601 (OP)
>Jeet scammer creates ai "search engine company"
>No revenue
>$35b valuation
You tell me

>>513508999
>>513509371
Also, the human brain has distinct regions which operate semi-autonomously and have specific tasks. Do AI have distinct areas you could point to and say they have a speciality which arose organically? Perhaps it would be worthwhile to develop AI for specific tasks while networked together, such that each one isn't unduly influenced by the collective, but the overall output is a gestalt which is greater than the sum of its parts.

>>513486601 (OP)
Geez I wonder who wants the market to crash. I knew the clanker was a forced meme

>>513509980
AI needs sweet, sweet amygdalas
The amygdala market will see a bull market like never before

>>513507153
>backed by gold
>try to exchange it for gold
>get 10 years in prison

How is GME doing right now? Is it close to mooning yet? Did the holders capture the float?

>>513486601 (OP)
Chat gpt AI is retarded look at all the losers going nuts over gpt, dating gpt, etc. open AI isn't even open source lol
Soon to be kicked out of most places due to its excessive water demands that will outweigh its success as it grows like a tumor. I wouldn't bet shit on it

>>513486601 (OP)
Bro, we finally found it, the Fountain of Youth, El Dorado, Atlantis, Xanadu! Oh wait, never mind. It was nothing.

Fell for it again award.

>>513488228
AI has never worked. You got hustled.
>>513495141
Gold always works. Good investment.

>>513488228
>i bought at the absolute top
Impressive

>>513488954
It's a space station

>>513488744
Buy the dip.

>>513489173
Good morning saar

>>513489965
I make so much money selling weird AI porn requests to coomer trannies in discord. They all want super specific futa porn of their OC just railing lesbian anime girls. So fucking weird.

>>513511278
Funny story
The Japanese used to use rice (and sometimes silk, hemp, etc) as a currency, which you would think would be great except all the bulk. But they eventually had to switch to using gold coins because it was more stable.

>>513486601 (OP)
100% overdone

AI needs power that the US doesn't have and is way overblown as to what it can actually do

>>513486601 (OP)
Hold fast bros, and buy the dip!

>>513486601 (OP)
no, they just realized AI could only actually replace white collar jobs, ie made work jobs.

it can't drive a truck. it can't sweep a floor. it can't repair an engine.

but it can do legal clerical work. it can be a judge. it can do marketing research analysis.

once they realized AI was actually going to replace *them* instead of *us*, they had to pull it back in.

>>513496544
That same apartment is probably worth a fuck ton of money today, you should sell that shit before the current housing bubble finally pops

>>513511758
>it can't sweep a floor.
I went to the Walmart where I used to work years ago, and they had a self-driving floor polisher. The floor looked fucking great. When I worked there, they always had a team if jiggers doing it and the floor always looked like shit.

>>513512431
*niggers

>>513486601 (OP)
>IS IT THE MOTHER OF ALL BUBBLES?!?!?!

Collective Zionist West is bankrupt since 2008.

Its the Hype who drives the Stock upwards.

>>513488228
All you had to do was to buy fucking physical gold & silver. How is that hard to understand? Just fuckin do it.

>>513489573
AI will train AIs? Idk, but I just figured out how to get the API to work with GPT today, then I had it help me write a program to interact with it. I asked it to find my username and type it manually in a new notepad center screen, took about 3 trys but it did it.

>>513488744
Both can be true at the same time. It's just like the internet bubble : it's locally overvalued, but long term it's a game changer so in the grand scheme of things it's undervalued. Thing is, if you bought the top of 2000's internet fakepanies, you'd have lost everything, but if you bought the like of google you made a x100.
Picking the right horse so early into the AI tech really is gambling. It may make you immensely rich, or you'll lose all your capital.

>>513512781
>Its the Hype who drives the Stock upwards.
Not really, that's what they want us to believe. The truth is capital redistribution became so uneven, 0.1% of the population now vampirize 90% of the cash being printed, and the rest of us are left with the crumbs. That's why comparatively to M2 the inflation is very tame, because most of the cash don't even get a chance to enter in circulation.

Thing is, richfags are so immensly rich, there aren't that many avenues left to park all this fake money. They can only purchase real assets in limited capacity, otherwise it would instantly distord and fuck up the market for any targeted commodity. So they are left only playing in the digital realm of speculative nothingness : treasuries, stocks, shitcoins, ETFs, etc.. since an infinity of those can be created out of thin air (just like fake money).

Truth of the matter is stocks are doomed to only go up, because that's the main avenue for richfags to park all their cash, alongside bonds. That's why it's totally disconnected with the economy to begin with.

>>513507310
>>they stay in stocks and bonds

Bullshit, they don’t need to ban gold for it. if the bubble bursts they will implement the capital control as they did in 1929-1930 or the soft version of it is in Russia now. So people can’t exist the stock market and the people funds will be frozen for uncertain amount of time.

>>513514146
Jew Cutie Ok See?

>>513513645
do you hear yourself?
if you expect 100x returns it's super easy to hedge at these prices

This isn't the first "AI" bubble. It's not even the second lol.
I told people early on this would happen. It's just the dotcom boom and bust all over again.

>>513488228
Kek I shorted friday

>>513514261
show us then

>>513488228
I was gonna buy a new video card soon, maybe I should wait for the demand for GPUs to drop off a cliff once this stupid fucking "AI" bubble bursts.
First the buttcoin miners came for my GPUs and jacked up the prices, the the promptfags showed up and jacked up the prices. I just wanted to play video games.

>>513488744
We keep explaining to you retards that this shit hit a plateau but you low IQ retards keep going to /tv/ threads saying that AI will make you entire marvel capeshit movies in 2 weeks. Shit looks better now than it had 2 years ago but it is at a plateau now.

>>513488744
>1pbtid
Something tells me you don't have faith in your convictions.

>>513488744
The computer from Star Trek is not here and you will be a very old man if you're lucky enough to see the early prototype versions of it.
You got caught up in the hype like a sheep. Own it.

>>513486601 (OP)
They're trying to shut down AI because of fear.

>>513496397
Isn't that what happened with DeepSeek, which is free, right?

>>513486601 (OP)
Funny except we will all have to bail out the Jews again.

>>513488228
Aaaahahahahaha why did you do that you absolute fucking mong. Always do the OPPOSITE of what jews and their henchmen (normalfags) tell you. Always! You broke the rules, you pay the price, nigger retard

>Go to coffee shop and pretend to talk on the phone about the bubble
>Watch people around me pull out their phones to start selling.

>>513488954
Its not until it is.
The music will go on untill all the musicians stop playing.
Its not gonna be pretty when that happens.

>>513487675
USE UBLOCK
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>>513488866
most stock is bought on margin aka debt
therefore, a 1% decline completely destroys the system

the system can only grow, it cannot decline ever, the moment it does it flies apart

Isn't AI just going to eventually kill itself
>AI feeds on data
>data slowly is being created by AI
>data is incorrect
>AI trains on that
>continues to create fake data
>continues to train on fake data
like a snake eating its own tail

>>513486601 (OP)
You realize the internet had a missive bubble and crash but didn't stop it from being the single most transformative technology in the last 100 years

>>513514535
We will all "have to" because the kikes and their government golem are so beyond the pale out of touch that they'll literally try to do it like 2008 but this time the kikes will be whipped out of the temple, biblically. That Blackstone exec that got shot? Guess what building Blackstone HQ is right next to? The Central Synagogue. The dominoes are falling already. A bailout would legit be the end.

>>513514957
The "Internet" didn't crash retard what crashed was so many retards creating unnecessary websites.

>>513514957
You forgot about actual transformers. They were a lot more transformative. I don't use magazine porn anymore, sure, but still still it's a lot like TV with more buttons.

>>513489573
I think the software side of AI creating AI is not a bottleneck in the future. It's the hardware and energy that will limit AI's created by AI from multiplying.

>>513513993
>Not really, that's what they want us to believe

Bankrupted french dogs have no say about economics.

Its the hype about new bullshit things.

>>513490068
SAR! U ARE DOING THE RETRACTING! BEFORE U GO TO ACCIDENT!

>>513489670
Fancy auto-complete war?

>>513490787
Lmao how retard?

>>513486601 (OP)
this is the biggest "duh" of all time.
my interactions with AI have been underwhelming.

>>513514791
and then we cash out baby!

>>513486601 (OP)
That MIT report really screwed the pooch huh?

GREATEST DEPRESSION COMING SSSOOOONNNNN!!!!

>>513490787
not if trump keeps deporting illegal mexicans. If he gets 10 million in a few years it will make rents crash and housing should be affordable.

>>513491886
>The forces at play are more powerful then money.
those forces cannot make a huge datacenter consume no power. sorry, there are limits to AI's retardation.

>>513516657
None of it is actual Ai. It's all just fucking we scraping with a Personality. On top of that they gut them to act retarded to avoid hot topics so you get a retard back patter who won't talk about anything interesting.

>>513486601 (OP)
>hallucination

No amount of prompting gets Red Chinamen on Uncle Sam's level, and the days of strategic weapons gaps and force disparities are over since the nearly terminal fuckup of Able Archer '83-- which the Soviets only didn't capitalize on thanks to Brezhnev's cancer and the Party and Security being paranoid about getting coup'd in the fallout bunkers.

>>513508359
It's just fancy autocomplete. It probably saved me maybe 1.5 to 2 hours of coding today cause it took care of all the boilerplate I usually have to type and QA myself. It's not useless but I don't see how it replaces a developer. If anything there's 10 more new problems with this coming down the pipe with human development and training up new developers.

>>513514888
Yes.
Plus the internet learns from people posting on the internet. They want to put a perma-student in the teacher role with no one to check its grade. Great. AI "hallucinates" sometimes. That's fantastic when the other person has no idea if it's "hallucinating" or not.
No reasonable person is going to buy a computer that randomly thinks it's a refrigerator.

>>513516863
It will never replace a developer becuase it can't develop anything.

>>513512431
that's a machine anon, not AI.

>>513486601 (OP)
>>513508999

>>513488228
HOLD THE LINE
BUY BUY BUY

>>513489967
>for less
lmao

>>513511758
It's just autocomplete, retard

>>513514791
we've had plenty of 1% declines and yet here we are. maybe a 15% would force niggers to liquidate.

Market will be green before end of the week.
Also what are the shitcoiners opinion on this?

>>513490454
avoid indian doctors and it'll stay that way.

>>513517179
i would already trust it over a pajeet or a jew
have you seen how judges will add YEARS to your sentence for pissing them off?
is AI going to mad that i said something out of turn and give me an extra 10 years?

>>513512431
>>513516909
Grim.

>>513486601 (OP)
>sold off over concerns that enthusiasm could be overdone
>same companies are the reason why the enthusiasm is overdone
It's going to be the mother of all rugpulls

>>513517699
but it's true, those machines are incredibly slow and literally sweep the floor in the middle of customers and shit, something an employee would never do. it's literally WORSE at cleaning, it's just doing it ALL day.

meanwhile, AI is *actually* faster, better, and smarter than most lawyers, doctors, psychiatrists, and judges. like a legal clerk (who does all the work for actual lawyers) is literally just a "find and replace" human. they just ctrl f after running OCR on documents. you think AI isn't *already* better at that? and faster?

you pay lawyers like $200 an hour lmao, AI can do that shit in seconds. it's not even comparable to a slow floor sweeping machine.

>>513494556
Your USB example is absolutely braindead. You're humiliating yourself.

>>513516346
you're a brainlet bro

>>513518257
>you're a brainlet bro

Go check your debt to GDP now loser.

From September you will see the French government announcing austerity measures to fund Ukraine and pay its debts.

Europe is about to implode.

>>513518983
i know this you fucking cretin, doesn't make you less of a retard

>>513492668
>the founding grifters of these scam companies run off with all the money they collected from idiot investors, and the industry pivots to the next absolutely worthless grift that will never turn a profit or provide anything of value to the world

>>513501076
>The real bubble is in fiat dollars
currency(debt) is even more rarely being destroyed than stock prices falling in price

>>513486601 (OP)
no shit it's overdone. i don't give a shit about ai until a real life glados with a real human consciousness exists.

>>513516605
no. they only let Melvin out of the position the same time as robinhooders were wondering where the sell button went ;^)

>>513487675

youtube deletes all my fucking comments now for no apparent reason. no bad words, no racism, nothing like that.

>>513514957
Read >>513515155 and tell us how many websites you're visiting nowadays.

>>513513993
>>513516346
truth is, it's a lot of both those arguments
all markets are fake and gay

>>513517253
>Also what are the shitcoiners opinion on this?
>AHAHAHAAHA NOCOINERS STILL HAVEN'T BOUGHT
>STAY POOR AHAHAHAHAAHAA
that's the extent of their brainlet analysis

>>513489347
name one thing AI has done except waste 500 gorillion dollars

>>513507366
You guys say this stuff all the time but it can't do anything. Tell it to make me a version of Windows 95 that works on the modern internet. Oh it can't? What can it do?

> Uh, some obscure B.S. that we're sure if purposely obtuse so only the most Poindexter of nerds even knows what we're talking about and you have to just take our word for it that it was cool. NO! Don't listen to the Poindexter nerds saying we're lying and it was dumb! DON'T YOU DARE!!!!

>>513520372
I saw the movie Money Grab, how many other movies has it been called by a different name? But I mean, it was 100 years ago.

>>513486601 (OP)
Nothing ever happens, nothing happens at all

>>513488744
yep its a bubble
liquidate your crypto and memestocks
buy gold
hunker down for the crash

>>513500018
Brutal. Right in the feels.

>>513489173
AI would be good lawyer if it’s a judge trial but jury trial ai will always be so fucking shit. Not to mention there is so much more legal running around rather than representation I woul say ai will never be more than a lawyers tool. Lawyers are safe.

>>513486601 (OP)
Cope. AI is still the future.

Who could have predicted this

>>513488466
>If /pol/ tells you to sell you just do it
/pol/ is always wrong though, its just a kremlin spammed shithole for licking putins arse and doing his bidding filled with fake flag vpn posters using semi automated spam to flood the place with the daily kremlin line one how to vote and think

Hate your country
HAte your government
Hate the EU
Don't blame Russia for using immigrants and flooding Europe with them as part of hybrid warfare
Hate your nations military and police
Love Putin
Hate NATO etc
Do a riot/Do a terror. do a spree shooting etc
Vote for russian quslings
The wests economies will inevitably collapse but Russian strong etc
Bullshit about the BRICS when south africa can barely run a lightbulb
Only the most spastic american skitzos don't know this surely? The kremlin owns this board and has for a decade

Only thing ai can do is rendering videos and images for entertainment purposes.
If you think AI will ever be this amazing, world changing, own self thinking entity, you are misstaken. The bubble will burst.
I use chatgpt daily, I pay for it. It’s shit and untrustworthy. It will answer every task with outmost confidence, but once you look into things, it gets it wrong all the time. It makes shit up out of the blue.

>>513524950
>Only thing ai can do is rendering videos and images for entertainment purposes.
Its extremely good at detecting tumors in x rays

>>513486601 (OP)
Yes. Altman said same. MIT says 95% of AI companies VC funded but produce nothing This is Dotcom 2.0 x10. It will deflate everything. I am very happy to see it.

>>513525017
>This is Dotcom 2.0 x10
Not sure if it's that magnitude but you're correct it is going to take a lot of bloat (most of which has been in past 20 months or so) out of the equity markets
'AI' is a hoax

>>513488744
>IT CAN DO ANYTHING
>ITS GONNA END EVERY PROBLEM
>YOU NEED AI FOR YOUR PLUMBING BUSINESS
>not a bubble
Turn back the clock 20 years and you'll see the dotcom crash where people were promising much less.

Shilling AI to Boomers has been Jensen's greatest scam. It surpassed any snakeoil he ever sold to GAMERS.
fucking njudea

>>513513993
That's the correct take. Peter Thiel even admits all of this openly.

>>513486601 (OP)
Wake me up when Buttcorns hit $0

>>513514791
True, that's why ((they)) are so obsessed with growth.
I've only ever bought what I could afford, and I chose well and carefully. So my net worth has actually grown and I don't owe a dime to any jew or anybody else either.

>>513514888
14888. Some mighty interesting digits there, fren

>>513518001
>t. Tried to plug it in one time and failed. No one can ever plug it in.

>>513526510
>>513518001
>Humiliated
This is an anonymous image board. If someone can be humiliated posting here, they have something wrong with them psychologically.

>>513488228
Cultural appropriation.

>>513488228
Just hold. Perpetual debt cycle means number will only go up. Sure there will be bounces but just hold

Told you so, it will go the way of superfoods, veganism, electric cars, trannies and virtual reality, a trend that is pushed very strongly but fizzles out quickly.

>>513513993
>>513525778
Oh the French communists have arrived.

>>513527595
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XaKgRe6GuUQ&pp=ygUPam9lbCBoYXZlciBob2xk

>>513486601 (OP)
It's because of chat gpt. Gpt5 is an inferior model.

Ai "enthusiasts" now making small models for router.

It's a far cheaper, but also worse.

>>513524942
I wonder what it would be like to be this deranged and wrong for a day.

>>513527595
Until the whole thing just collapses. But then again money would be worthless in such a scenario so it doesn't matter.

>>513489173
The most interesting uses I've yet seen are in medicine. I'm sure Big Pharma knew that ages ago.

>>513492915
Actually, I agree. I'm seeing a big backlash building.

>>513496905
They'll never let us have those.

>>513499699
haha says the kike with terabytes of CP on his computer

>>513508359
Exactly

>>513487675
>not using ublock origin
YNGMI

>>513519428

The mod on the bottom right, whatever his name is, is the biggest midwit of the bunch. He is the epitome of midwit and proof that being rich isn't directly related to IQ. All his takes are normie midwit shit you would hear at work from your normie colleagues, but with lodsa money. What's the point of so much money if you're gonna be the same braindead retard than a middle manager at walmart,

I fckk you bich