Thread 513505380

What does /pol think about John Calhoun’s “mouse utopia” experiments? Does this explain modern society?

nigger

>>513505380 (OP)
It's a case study on sensationalism

>>513505380 (OP)
The rats represent the gentiles

60-70s narrative pseudo science
never replicated

human projection, probably funghi, bad hygene or mold in the enclosure
maybe intergenerational nutrient deficit either from lack of sunlight or from bad food

>>513505380 (OP)
>does this explain modern society
I dont think it can because we havent seen attacks on the 10/10 males that are hoarding women via dating apps..we are seeing people checkout entirely and seeing defeated males lash out in violence however

>>513506419
what are we attributing the funghi to here? the overrall population decline?

>>513505380 (OP)
Maybe.
I found it a very fucked up experiment.

>>513506419
You're such a fucking marxism kike dyke cunt you should blow your fucking brains out nigger

>>513506491
behavior alteration and or population collapse
rat utopia screams koko the gorilla whenever I see it, I loath this experiment the methodology reeks of all manner of BS

>>513506682
Pretty sure Calhoun replicated the experiment himself multiple times, but I don’t know about anyone other than him. The results would roughly be my hypothesis going into it regardless. You see similar behavior changes with zoo animals — over grooming, completely absent libido, etc. it makes sense and it does parallel modern society. You’re just being a redditor nigger.

how often did they clean the enclosure? is that known?

>>513507068
you are being the redditor being emotional invested into a soi experient

Yeah bro its fucking MESSED UP man. Have you heard of the santford prison experiment? Scary as fuck bro...

>>513505380 (OP)
>Does this explain modern society?
Yes.
Behavioral sink.
Also, humans suffer from cultural collapse. You see, the kikes stayed awake in Anthropology class, and you dumb shit atheists thought the story of the race between the Hare and the Tortoise was about a talking rabbit and turtle so you ignored the moral of the story.
Then you wonder why the kikes call you "goyim" or cattle,... it's because you're stupid fucking cows.

>>513506642
lmao insanely triggered

>>513507068
>replicated the experiment himself
You know that doesn't count right? Replication is about other scientists doing it, it doesn't matter how many times one guy does it, he could be influencing the results the same way every time

>>513505380 (OP)
Fundamentally flawed and he admitted it himself if I remember correctly spacker

>>513505380 (OP)
It’s never been replicated.

DEBOONKED

>>513505380 (OP)
>tfw I am one of the "Beautiful Ones"

>>513506682
a chatbot wrote this post

>>513507195
How is it a soi experiment? And I’m not emotionally invested in it. Go ahead and deboonk it instead of just making gay reddit speculations.

>>513506682
What happens if his experiment was actually replicable but only he knew how and the (((powers that be))) either financed his experiments OR he sold the findings to them to implement on US. Aka, fuck with the food, fuck with the water and sit back and wait.

>>513507393
nigger kike, my counter theory is that we life through a fisherian runaway

>>513506419
>Never replicated
Except it was replicated 25 times with the same results each time you dumb lying faggot.

>>513507388
No you’re not, you’re a hairy Greek faggot. Probably that guy who has been living in a dorm for the past decade.

>>513507440
too much narrative, never replicated, myth building
methodology likely faulty, not filmed

>>513505380 (OP)
Human society is not a utopia. Most people live in scarcity. Whatever you think is going on with modern society has nothing to do with that dumb experiment.

>>513506419
Just like modern man?

>>513507281
It’s more replication than like 90% of science experiments so that counts for something. Also, Grok says it has been partially replicated, but not matching the exact specifications or scale of Calhoun’s experiments:
• Studies in the 1970s and 1980s by researchers like John Christian explored stress responses in high-density rodent populations, observing similar outcomes like increased aggression and reproductive decline. These were not direct replications but tested related hypotheses.
• Smaller-scale studies on rats and mice in controlled high-density environments have shown comparable results, such as disrupted social hierarchies and increased stress behaviors, supporting Calhoun’s observations about density-related stress.

>>513505380 (OP)
no it's just a jewish trick. all (((psychology))) is.

>>513507440
Here's the deboonk brother:

He used a specially bred strain of mice that were polygamous and extra territorial. He then interfered directly in the experiment during it's progress, moving mice, taunting mice and otherwise effecting the results. He anthropomorphized the mice, gave them names and used human psychology on them, which he isn't even trained in. Biologists are no more qualified to do psychology than a plumber doing electrical work.

>>513507618
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/this-old-experiment-with-mice-led-to-bleak-predictions-for-humanitys-future-180954423/
It was the 25th time he repeated the experiment that gets the attention, hence universe 25.

>>513507766
This I could buy. Haven’t looked into it enough.

>>513507523
Yeah, there is something Fisherian going on
Unironically
Like we select males for looks snd not utility or prowess
Also, wimen compete now, even ugly ones, for males
2/10 braphogs getting fucked by Chads

>>513506491
>dont think it can because we havent seen attacks on the 10/10 males that are hoarding women via dating apps..we are seeing people checkout entirely and seeing defeated males lash out in violence however

you mean attacks like constant nonstop rape accusations against anyone with money that gets laid alot?

>>513507626
Kek
>tfw i am one of the "Hairy ones"

>>513506419
>never replicated
You know the rules. You made a claim. Burden of proof lies upon YOU, faggot. Don't you love jewish pilpul? Post links to CREDIBLE sources (no left or right wing bias sites) that state with PEER-REVIEWED SCIENCE, nigger. I'll wait (:

>>513507908
nah i feel it needs to be more serious to be a paralell, like attacking famous actors for example out of jealousy

>>513505380 (OP)
It explains white people almost perfectly: you give whites everything they want and put their life on easy mode, they still lose.

It's kind of hilarious.

>>513508152
Admit it, when you lived in India you shit outside at least once didn’t you? And you used your hand to wipe your ass, didn’t you? It’s okay, you’re anonymous.

>>513507766
Oh shit he used gayfaggiot mice
That certainly doesn’t apply to mankind then

>>513507628

editorializing the science after the fact isn’t an adequate deboonk in itself, especially in this context. The implications of these experiments on society are obvious, and it’s not an indictment on the methodology otherwise for Calhoun to speculate on how the mice parallel human beings.

>>513507887
*women

>>513508258
Nothing done with mice applies to humans, we're a totally different species retard. But yes using mice artificially bred to be extremely territorial shows results which are not relevant to natural species.

>>513507135
ask your mommy, she seems like the kind up for the task
>>513505380 (OP)
yes... asians (indians/chinese) are known to be more tolerant to conditions like commieblocks and they obviously use it against white people
the USA is a heaven for not having commieblocks as a standard

>>513508368
ok gaylord

>>513505380 (OP)
Yes, in big cities. One difference is, you can leave, and people can come in. Thus prolonging the experiment.

Also, social media and it's effect on the youth, is an excellent example of a behavioral sink

>>513505380 (OP)
It does have many parallels. We are much more complex than mice though. Just keep it as a cautionary tale not to overindulge and to put challenges to yourself. Don't let than comfy life ruin you.

>>513508314
>editorializing the science after the fact isn’t an adequate deboonk in itself, especially in this context
Yes it actually is, modern science uses pre-registration specifically to stop this because it makes studies invalid

>>513505380 (OP)
the only thing he did was replicate a prison. prison is the only environment where men willingly become homosexuals

>>513508833
before arabs and niggers (e.g. before the 1960s, at least in Europe) no prison was a homosexual farm
you faggot

>>513508494
>after the fact
Scientists editorialize their findings with books all the time — if the conditions and results of the experiment are recorded impartially, it doesn’t matter what’s speculated afterward. Calhoun gave the rats names and speculated about what psychologically caused the behavioral sink, but he ultimately recorded the methodology and the resulting mice’s behavior objectively.

yes, in a large way

the key difference is we can escape

>>513509006
>if the conditions and results of the experiment are recorded impartially, it doesn’t matter what’s speculated afterward.
No, you still have a lot of room to manipulate the data after the fact. It's also difficult to tell if the data was recorded impartially without proper pre-registration. Pre-registration is the best prevention against data-dredging/P-Hacking. Science must predict the outcomes, not decide the outcomes after the experiment.

>>513505380 (OP)
What is the experiment?

>>513509703
squish living beings into commie blocks
they turn faggot, cannibal, or just opt out

>put a man in a blank box with ration pellets, water, and a plain bed
>hmmm why is he going crazy after a while I've given him everything he needs
Animals need stimulation, it's like the creatures suffering in the chinese zoos because it's a box and nothing else but food and water

>>513509941
they would have been alright if not overcrowded
that's the whole point, retard
mice and rats live totally alright even without MUH STIMULATION when caged properly

>>513510194
And they weren't caged properly. The experiment is a steaming pile of shit.

>>513505380 (OP)
Fortuitous

>>513510177
nigger

>>513510253
>And they weren't caged properly.
that was kind of the point of the whole fuckin experiment you retard

>>513510327
You're right and I admit I'm wrong

>>513510400
ok then you are not a retard, here, have a subversive book

How can I find joy in life with things said and done, and what’s missing

>>513511623
Smoking weed and gooning

>>513512667
It’s over

>>513505380 (OP)
it does explain cities

Nigger

>>513508218
I've shit outside living in Canada, too.

Also, you've never shit outside?

Also, why would I be ashamed of this? You think humans are supposed to shit in a ceramic seat? You've more domesticated than the animals you eat.

No wonder your people are dying off and can't even talk to the opposite gender, let alone have kids, which even dogs and cats do without any thought.

Hope the "civilization" was worth it.

I remember this same thread with the same mispelling of /pol

All fields

>>513505380 (OP)
>one world of many

Sensationalized garbage with significantly flawed model(s) same as muh Milgram Experiment.

>>513505380 (OP)
It wasn't overcrowding-- it was pathogenic/parasitic load.

>>513507827
all the others had different outcomes retardkun. also this has been replicated with vastly different outcomes

>>513505380 (OP)
There are parallels to be drawn from it, but it is not something I look at as an exact mirror image to human society

>>513505380 (OP)
This is just India

It was funded by Johns Hopkins and the Rockefeller Foundation... all you need to know.

>>513507261
>Behavioral sink.
And more specifically, the lack of a power process. (((Utopia))) means goycattle plantation + placation in terms of nuspeak.

>>513515344
But overcrowding was the asserted takeaway because it was also used to foment the inertia of the population overshoot myth-making that was to transpire after most countries were industrialized after globalism's tentacles stretched to even the most lowly of nations.

>>513505380 (OP)

It explains the need for reclusivity, demanding furthering changes to the biome & disparities with the massified groups onto the individuals involved.

>>513515344
elaborate. why wouldn't this infection be seen in tight knit communities if that were the case? why would it only manifest at massive scales?

i find the sociological explanation more convincing

>>513514567
not at all, cities were fine and livable before the industrial revolution... like almost 2000 years versus 200
a city is not made by its population but by its walls
that's why indians are street shitters even with modern tech

>>513508001
>>tfw i am one of the "Hairy ones"

Take me
to the pretty ones
I wanna be
a pretty one
Sign me to
a nice girl
So she can ruin me
eternally

>>513515608
This is a very chudly statement

>>513507887
>Also, wimen compete now, even ugly ones, for males
>2/10 braphogs getting fucked by Chads
Let's not give anyone the designation of being a braphog unless they're at least a 5/10 Anon

>>513505380 (OP)
if treating humans like animals had any actual societal value OP should be rubbed nose first into his own shit

>>513505380 (OP)
No it doesn't, mice don't have any culture

>>513518726
Mice have the same culture as jeets

>>513518675
>if treating humans like animals had any actual societal value
It does and you’re an actual gay nigger

>>513518965
I don't know sounds like someone with his nose full of shit would say

now add nigger, jeet, and muslim rats

>>513519053
This is literally you

>>513505380 (OP)
we're currently living through the end stages of it.

>>513507281
Actual scientist here. Being able to replicate the result yourself is the absolute first step after observing something interesting. You're a fucking retard.

>>513505380 (OP)
>Does this explain modern society?
A little bit. You know, in a way, we are those rats and society is that universe where the rats thrive. Human beings are not rats, but the social aspect is similar to ours. It does explain a little bit.