>>513524711That's how it is now, no way that works with that contingent, and if you want to pile on, just bring up Israel and ask Gavin if he supports them.
Gavin is in a tight rope act where he's trying to show that's a moderate in a party full of binary issue people who are radical. He clearly sees that supporting them openly is problematic for the party, but he also knows that if he doesn't support them he won't win, so he has to do a wink and a nod to them, and the last 4 years with Biden showed that people will now see through that and don't trust it.