Thread 513514459

Not even a shill, just an engineer.

These motherfuckers make EVERYTHING. I fell for the memes that “China = low quality” but in the past decade or so they’ve leveled up to God tier status in manufacturing. I genuinely don’t know how anyone else can compete, they make EVERYTHING. The US seems like an absolute shithole by comparison dumping literal trillions of dollars into “artificial intelligence” that can’t count the number of r’s in a word.

All they have to do is wait for the US to die out while they grow stronger. Once again, not a shill, thought China was a meme, then I started interacting with engineers over there and seeing everything they manufacture and I’m in awe at the speed and volume of it all. Nobody else even comes close.

>>513514459 (OP)
Can they manufacture a better thread?

>>513514534
lol
FPBP

>>513514459 (OP)
USD dollar is the world currency since WW2. Fast forward to modern day and 30% of every dollar spent is going overseas to China.

>>513514459 (OP)
they are in demographic collapse because they couldnt manufacture food to have enough children

>>513514534
No. This is their best effort.

>>513514459 (OP)
> These motherfuckers make EVERYTHING.
Made out of chinese-ium. By an ad, shill

>>513514459 (OP)

All factory in China, all of them was US and Japan.
You give chink technology because you want slave labor cost and destroy your own citizens economy.

>>513514459 (OP)
>China = low quality
But this is actually true. They compete by producing cheap, low quality products. America competes by producing more expensive, higher quality products.

>>513514836
Uh I think you mean produced great returns for investors? If you complain about this you're not elite human capital

>>513514459 (OP)
we know you love their bbc dildos OP

>>513514459 (OP)
Christ you bug shills are going all out lately, is this about your bug sailors getting crushed during that philipino coast guard collision recently?

>>513514459 (OP)
Shut the fuck up you nigger-loving kike golem. Your smoldering crater shithole is ground zero for the type of sodomite globalist mindvirus that has plagued the entirety of western civilization. The only thing you and every son of a bitch posting here under the US flag knows how to do, is kneel to blacks and worship transsexuals, fucking faggot. I can smell the cock on your breath from here. You believe that men can give birth. Anyone competent at your workplace has been replaced by a DEI hire. Go kneel to George Floyd and set yourself on fire for Palestine

That happens when you're a National Socialist state that cares for your ethnic people.

>>513514908
There's not a linear relationship between expense and quality of product. Most things have diminishing returns. A $10 lighter is usually 99% of the functionality of a $100 lighter.

>>513515014
>comparing literal communists to national socialists
Fucking kill yourself bug lol.

>>513514459 (OP)
>All they have to do is wait for the US to die out while they grow stronger.
>Estimates suggest that by 2100, China's population could decrease to approximately 525 million, representing a reduction of more than 60% from its current population of over 1.4 billion.
>The U.S. will not lose half its population anytime soon; it is expected to grow or remain stable thanks largely to immigration.

This is true if China can solve it's birth rate crisis otherwise it will have to look to immigration as an alternative which America has a higher birth-rate and significantly higher immigrant intake.
If you don't do tariffs to protect industry than the country in which produces and pays it's workers at a cheaper rate will win.
Again though the only way to solve a birth rate is by buying up more time for women and returning to a one person income economy as much as possible, China isn't on the trajectory to achieving this as much as America.
America's consistently high birth rate is found amongst the poorest demographic that also happens to be religious.
In terms of education;
American students’ standardized test scores have been relatively flat or slightly declining in some areas over the past 30 years despite being the country that spends the most amount of money into it's education system.
China has seen significant improvements in academic performance over the last 30 years, with large gains in international assessments and internal exams.
China spending overall less on each student.
China; $3,000–$5,000 per student.
America; $15,000–$20,000 per student.
tldr; The west has fallen and it can't get up.

>>513514459 (OP)
We should enslave you and put you in factory for efficiency as efficiency is all that matters

>>513515160
China IS NS, its hilarious watching you Unit8200 kikes cry about China online while they overtake Muttmerica in every aspect.
https://voegelinview.com/carl-schmitt-and-leo-strauss-in-the-chinese-speaking-world

>>513514459 (OP)
>“China = low quality”
thats true though, and you'd know that if you werent a shill. they CAN make high quality products, but the ingrained need to cheat each other and skim money spent for safe and consistent products overrides any sort of quality the country can produce. they regularly sell each other dogshit that catches on fire.

>>513515229
>America will win by taking in a fuck ton of immigrants to stay afloat
Yeah, we're fucked.

>>513514534
fpbp. Chink faggot OP BTFO

>>513515014
>National Socialist state
China has some anti immigrant, racist undertones but overall it sees it's people as a cog for a powerhouse, it is a mixed economy but overall it two nations in comparison here put stress into completely different key points of it's society. This is why Nazi germany didn't look like communist blocks across eastern Europe like China has.
>>513515337
I read 50% of the link you provided to find out the why which was already obvious having read Schmitt and Strauss, again it's just due to the Chinese intellectuals disdain for the enlightenment presuppositions, attitudes, the need for a strong state, etc.
This wouldn't even make them National socialists at all, at most again just Authoritarians with a strong need to theorise it's legitimacy to it's people. Left wing intellectuals in China also made this association.
>China’s leading intellectuals was to discuss Nietzsche, Heidegger, Sartre, and Foucault.
Again a mix of Existentialism, Authoritarianism, Phenomenology and post-modernism.

>>513516040
>Um ackshually it doesn't count because of extremely technical reasons
It's nationalist, it's socialist, therefore it's national socialist which is fascist. If you want to nitpick, tell it to someone who'll actually read that shit.

>>513515229
Counterpoint, 2100 is 75 years from now. China's TFR was 1.15 in 2024 (it was the year of the dragon and apparently a lot of people aimed to have a kid then due to it being auspicious or something) China's life expectancy is 78~ years. the last 3 years had an average of 9.3mil births per year. If China managed to get their TFR back up to 2.1 then by 2100 their population would be roughly 750mil.
Their TFR is half that as such the number of births can be expected to continue falling.
The US TFR isn't much better at 1.6 but we get a shit ton of immigration (or we were remains to be seen if that continues) most estimates i've seen put the US at around 400mil by the end of the century.
China's TFR will be around 1.0 this year, at a TFR of 1.0 it takes about 40 years to cut a nations population in half. There's a non-zero chance the US has a higher population than China by 2100. That's entirely down to immigration on the US' part though, a TFR of 1.6 would take 85~ years to cut our pop in half down to 170mil. China's population would be around 350mil (where the US is today) if we ignore immigration and assume both nation have flat TFRs for the next 75 years.

>>513515295
lmfao what the fuck do you thing privitization's entire argument is?
>durr the private market is more efficient than the government at producing things

>>513515375
"If the average man will not work, if he has not in him the will and the power to be both father and mother, if the average woman shirks the duties of wife and mother, if both alike are so absorbed in selfish and timid ease that they shrink from risk and effort, from the rough work of life, then the race is decadent, and should be swept away. In such event, it matters little whether the individual is cultured or ignorant, clever or foolish, decent or vicious. The whole situation is so full of pathos and horror as to leave one speechless. If the nation as a whole loses the power of self-government, if it loses the virile, manly qualities, and sinks into a nation of mere hucksters, putting gain above national honor, and subordinating everything to mere ease of life, then it will vanish, as the ancient civilizations have vanished." - Roosevelt
(cont) 1/2

>>513516847
"In the first age, the first phase of the cycle, institutions are loose and weak and the ‘imaginative man’ leads society, expressing himself in religion and in war; fear is the dominant urge in this age. In the second age, the second phase of the cycle, there is a process of centralization and the ‘economic man’ attains to leadership, expressing himself in science and in business, especially in currency manipulation; greed has now become the dominant urge. The ‘law’ of civilization compels a society to move from the first into the second phase of the cycle and then, continuing to operate, becomes a law of decay, as economic man, in his climactic type, the ‘usurer,’ gradually starves his fellows until their vitality is destroyed. There upon new ‘races’ appear and the cyclical process is repeated ad Infinium" - Brook Adams
Key point
>Brook Adams believed the logic of usurious capitalism was such that it had now become for the first time truly global and would seek out the cheapest costs in labour markets, and that, in this respect, the supremacy of Asia over Europe would be inevitable in the long-run. The relative birth rates between Asia and Europe would ensure that Europe would ‘run out of energy’ first—a fascinating prediction given the meteoric rise of China over the past half a century and, at the time of writing, the USA’s increasingly desperate inability to maintain a unipolar world as global hegemon.

Not a single factory accident yet

mutts seething and coping itt

>>513514459 (OP)
Yeah, it is game over. They are not gonna be topped unless the biggest miracle in human history happens to Hindi civilization. Chips? Clocks? Sports cars? Tick tock, tick tock.

>>513516227
Again China might meet the core tenants of fascism that can be summarised by Gentile, Mussolini or some other relevant figure but it's not because the intellectuals of China love Schmitt and a bunch of other philosophers.

American Corpos invested trillions in China to help build and work their factories so they could make their products with slave labor over the last 30+ years, while simultaneously abandoning, shutting down and dismantling most of the US factories. OF COURSE it's god tier there NOW. Still a buncha bullshit.

>>513514534
LEL blown out in one post

sage

80 ro-ro ships in one year. eighty.

>>513517012
>American Corpos invested trillions in China

wrong. they spent trillions on products made by chinese companies.

>Understanding Ownership Structures in China

>Here’s the deal. No American or European or Australian company (or any other non-Chinese company) can own a Chinese factory directly. It is possible the American or European or Australian company that claims to own a Chinese factory owns a Chinese company (a WFOE or a China Joint Venture) that in turn owns a Chinese factory, but the odds of this are incredibly slim.

>None of my law firm’s international manufacturing lawyers have ever encountered a foreign company (other than a Taiwanese or Hong Kong company) that owns a Chinese company that owns a Chinese factory that does contract manufacturing for third-party companies. Something like this is possible, but it is exceedingly rare.

>The Real Implications of “Ownership”

>What does it mean when a foreign company claims to own the Chinese factory from which it is trying to get you to place your orders? This pretty much can mean one of the following two things:

>The foreign company that claims to own a Chinese factory is flat out lying. It is amazing how often we see this and when I say, “see this”, I mean the foreign company puts in writing “that your products will be made by factories we own in China.” If you see this, you probably should run away. My law firm’s China Due Diligence Reports can quickly reveal the actual ownership.
>The foreign company is fudging the truth. A lot. This occurs when the foreign company speaks of having your products made by “our factories” in China. If you push them on what they mean by “our factories,” they will usually state that the factories in China to which they are referring are the factories they have worked with for many years, and know well and trust.

>>513514459 (OP)
They make lots of shit tier product with their god tier slave population

>>513514459 (OP)
They can produce high quality but a lot is also cheap crap.

>>513514534
Kek

>>513517359
they make literally everything anyone ever wants or needs.

>>513517418
Not really. They depend on the West for all lithography and mid to high tech.

Sageposting because your ragebait has been fucking trash today. Do better

>>513517138
Retard detected

>>513517418
Not if you want it to work lol

I just want a BYD car. I don’t know why /pol/ hates China so much. It’s mostly the Americans on here from what I’ve observed. I suspect envy.

>>513518058
Because they are communist retards that are slaves for imperialist Jews in one the most befuddling ideologies iv ever seen
They literally ooze retardation and hypocrisy

>>513518058
Americans are subjected to an insane amount of anti-chinese propaganda. China is largely better than the US in most ways: no nigs, no spics, minimal jewry, no political partisanship, corpos serve the government instead of the inverse and the government is focuses on building up the country, 110 average IQ, affordable houses, affordable cars, mercantile geopolitical strategy (instead of bullying other countries with military and banking BS), etc.

>>513518191
>insane amount of anti-chinese propaganda
It’s literally the opposite faggot msn has been shilling for china for decades

>>513514459 (OP)
>Not even a shill

>>513518276
proofs?

>>513514459 (OP)
>China is literally God tier at manufacturing
Yea no shit, a child could have worked that out after hearing about pic rel.
Romans and Egyptians would be too, if they weren't conquered and intermixed.
The only parts of the Great Wall that crumbled are the parts looted by villagers to build their own houses.

I care about making a badass and durable product.
When we send a design to Chang and Zhuang, they shit it up if the design deviates slightly from what their bug-minds can comprehend.
They didn't run simulations or optimize. They only know the most basic design principles, and try to sneak in changes until we tell them to shut the fuck up and cut tooling.

Good luck holding them accountable for their shitty products. Their knock-offs, probably using my old tooling sold off under the table, will cut every possible corner on material, advertise blatant, obvious, and dangerous lies, and sell for a fraction on Amazon. Sorry, you're past your return window GOY.

If you buy chinkshit, you deserve their chink life.

>>513514459 (OP)
ho lee fuck

China can't manufacture good air because the air is China is like a sewer. China is comunist. Do you know what that means? It means you work your ass off and you get nothing. You only get something if you are part of the party. China sucks. China erased God from their history. China was awesome. But know it is red as it can get.

>>513520703
What's worse though, China or Brazil?
Probably Brazil, at least China man can afford his own coffee.

>>513519595
>based imperial Chinese walls still stand centuries later
>commie tofu dregs crumbling
kek

>>513520967
China. It's so bad they won't see blue skies unless there's a holiday and the government forces factories to shut down for a whole week. Brazil isn't a contender, India is since New Delhi isn't that much better in air pollution.

>>513514908

The worst part is, retards see cheap Chinese shit and think it's a bargain. The reality is, if you buy Chinese, you're buying twice, or three times, or even more than that.

An example is USB-C cables. If you buy Chinese it will cost you maybe $5. But it's not going to last more than a few months.
Or you can buy a quality cable made in somewhere like Canada. It might cost you $12, but it will last you 5-10 years minimum.

Pol is full of the sort of people who see the first cable and think China so amazing, Canadian cable so expensive. Then 5 years later they're $50 down because of having to constantly buy new cables.

This is why I don't, and why you shouldn't buy Chinese shit. It's more expensive in the long run.

>>513514534
holy FPBP
chinks obliterated

Its just the benefit of having unlimited amount of bug people without conciousness doing basically slave labor with the upside of having a lot of people with relatively high iq that are educated. The west do not have the luxury of shitting on human rights like the chinese have it. I mean we tried importing slaves, muslims herey beaners in the us but it obviously did not work out favourably.

>>513514459 (OP)
>they make everything
yeah and it's shit quality compared to products from literally anywhere else
>that's a meme
name one high quality chink product nigger

>>513514534
They used ChatGPT, so no

>>513514836
You are about to see what a destroyed economy looks like after Trump took away a lot of our access to global manufacturing. It is good for a country to get to a point where it is doing what we were doing and offshoring our production like this, while still maintaining their own American made companies. Low IQ people who don't understand economics are allowing them to do what they did during covid again while cheering for it, which is destroy the economy in order to make it malleable to rebuild for the technocratic globalist and heavily automated New World. Trump is inoculating people to your beliefs, he is genuinely going to be seen as an evil man, a villain. It's obvious what his role is to anyone who isn't retarded.

>>513522650
It's good that normies buy shitty chink things, if all normies wanted the best things I buy, to shop at whole foods etc. I wouldn't be able to afford those things anymore.

>>>513514459 (OP)
> 1pbtid


> >>513514534
FPBP kek

>>>513514459 (OP)
> 1pbtid


>>>513514534
Based FPBP lol

>>513522507
This is false. China will make cheap, crappy USB cables if that's what they're asked to make. They can also make good USB cables, but they'll cost more.