Thread 513525787

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>>513525787 (OP)
russia dont want their bodies back.
that would ruin their stats and they would have to pay money.
no body = no money

>>513525787 (OP)
Zelensky already stall compensation money for families....

>>513525787 (OP)
Ukrainian casualties leaked
>1.7 million
It's over.

>>513525866
So why did they accept 19 bodies? Can Ukraine show the undelivered ones?

Wow. $300,000 x 1,000 = $300 million compensation paid for by EU and US tax payers. Why are the Russians so evil to make us pay for those dead Ukies?

>>513525921
shut up, you are antiseptic!

kek

>>513525921
you can pick them up.
nobody wants them.
ukraine doesnt gain anything if they recover the bodies so they just rott.
there are hundred of videos of rotting russian corpses being eaten by several animals

>>513525787 (OP)
1000:19

>>513526032
What does Russia gain for picking up Ukraine bodies?

>>513525787 (OP)
19 : 1000

>>513525787 (OP)
for anyone wondering that would be 1 to 52 kd ratio.

>>513526032
Ok, so why did the mayor of Lviv dug up hundreds of WW2 graves to offer them in these body exchanges? Surely it would be much easier to pick up those thousands of rotting dead Russians, right?

>>513526095
>just look at all the dead ukrainians
>just 2 more weeks and its over
it works for retards like OP, the australian faggot
it was hilarious to see that russians care more about ukrainian bodies than their own.

>>513526032
first of all if you do not pick them up you will create diseases among other things.

secondly ukraine was so desperate that they had to dig up old soviet memorial for one of those exchanges.

>>513525787 (OP)
obviously if they capture territory they capture the bodies too, the land they're capturing vs Ukraine is around 1000 to 19 too I'd say

>>513526095
Humanity. Plus sticking Ze with a $300k compensation bill per body, to be paid to their family.

>>513526157
So why doesn't this apply to Ukraine?
>Look at all these dead Russians
>We're Winning

>>513525787 (OP)
>retreating army has less enemy bodies
Oh wow shocking call the science to confirm that.

>>513526166
>first of all if you do not pick them up you will create diseases among other things.
kek, you had videos on your state television with recovering rotting ukrainian corpses and they didnt use much protection

>>513526157
Why would Ukraine not want to do that PR victory? Surely they would pick up the thousands of bodies just to parade them, no? They did much worse for PR, Krinky comes to mind

>>513526181
ukraine does something called "active defense".
instead of sitting and letting us come to them and save some lives they constantly counter attack and sometimes too take some land back.

so this is a lie.

>>513526224
See>>513526115

>>513526196
ukraine doesnt have to win, they have to survive.
both countries have different war goals.
but you brainlets think its just the same

>>513526183
kek you mean the US taxpayer

>>513526255
see, what?
someone on twatter said what?
amazing source

>>513526224
they did.
they were covering the bodies with special reagent to stop the rotting. before those would be picked up.

also what is the point you are trying to make here nafo troon?

>>513526095
Dead bodies release fluids as they decompose, exposing nearby people to bloodborne pathogens carrying infectious diseases, its actually very important to clean up bodies off the field if the frontlines are stagnant from a purely utilitarian perspective

>>513526270
lmao new cope just dropped :D
well it is not doing great so far.

>>513526248
yeah so it probably would be about 19 acres captured back by Ukraine for every 1000 Russia takes

>>513526298
your sources are even worse.

>>513526292
Indeed

>>513525787 (OP)
>19 Russians for 1000 Ukrainians

>>513526098
>1 to 52 kd ratio.
to that prohols would be screaming 'but muh laws of war say the attacker suffers 3 times the casualties that the defender does'...

I've been doing this for pretty much 3 years now....if there are really +1M russian KIAs, then SHOW ME THE BODIES, and the massive cemeteries, like the ones we see in 404....where are those? In the age of the smartphone, wireless internet and social media pages....no one can hide such things.

Hohol lives don't have much value in Ukraine. They can always catch more piggies for the next meat wave.

>>513526270
But Ukraine is the one that needs PR, their war effort is sustained by outside forces. Russia doesn't, Russian war effort is their own, for the most part. Why does the side that need PR refuses to do a simple PR stunt, but the side that does not need PR does it?
>>513526298
That is the official account of the mayor of lviv. You claimed they don't care to pick up the bodies, but the mayor of lviv is exhuming WW2 graves for the sole purpose of using the bodies in these exchanges

>>513526326
the cope is that russia is winning.
They need to hold the territory.
enjoy your maidan 2.0 in 20 years at worst

>>513526411
Do you honestly believe the things you are writing or are you just paid to do that?

>>513525944
Holy shit imagine all the extortions and kidnapping this money is going to fuel. Putting 300k on a hohols head is fucked. Now all the vids of them getting banned and killed doesn’t even seem sad anymore. It’s just business.

>>513526437
kek

>>513526460
The latter then?

>>513525787 (OP)
Not to worry, plenty of meat ripe for picking in the west! We will fight the russians to the last ukrainian!

>>513526382
the more holhols killed the more jeets they can bring in to rebuild

>>513526475
This is not a video game where you can keep the country forever once you have occupied it.
Ask the Americans how much of Afghanistan they have occupied after 20 years.
You had so many gainz there.

>>513526270
the absolute cope on this lad

>>513525866
Then why did they take the 19?

>>513526378
those are not laws but some average stats.

it could be true if our forces were equal and most importantly if hohols did the defense like in wars they referring to.

in general here is what they do:
- got btfo in some place
- took all available reserves and send them into the place where they were beaten
- lose a lot of men in process because they are not in defense any longer.

they call it "active defense"

one more stupid thing they do is let themselves to be surrounded all the time.
and instead of withdrawing they bleed in encirclement hoping that a drone will bring them supplies they need.
and when they can't take it any longer they try to withdraw through our minefields and artillery.

>>513525787 (OP)
What do you honestly expect against an advancing army? That Ukraine will magically push back to get bodies?

>>513526574
possible some fsb pidors
they are the ruling caste in russia

>>513526541
The oblasts Russia aims to take are majority ethnic russian, why would they revolt and cause some type of afgan style insurgency?

>>513526541
I'm asking generally, like before when you were talking about losses, when you imagined a world where ukraine has thousands of russian bodies storming their defenses but they just don't collect them.

>>513525787 (OP)
Here's some more fun math. 19 to 1000 is a 1:52 ratio. There are 28 million ukrainians left under the Kiev government. If every single one of those (including women, children, and the elderly) were to fight at those odds, they could AT MOST inflict another 540,000 deaths on the russians. This is of course an absolute best case scenario, because the odds would be much worse for scraping the barrel-type combatants. Half a million deaths is of course pretty bad, but for reference: there are over a million ukrainian refugees that fled to Russia, and close to 8 million in russian-occupied territories, meaning that even in this worst case scenario russia would still have grown its population by millions

>>513526378

You can get 10 hard labor prison torture camp sentence in Razzia for defaming their "great army" Hungzigger

>>513526605
The ratios weren't loopsized when hoholandia was on the attack

>>513526620
so russia was so succesfull in their attempt since 2014 so they had to go in with their full force.
wow amazing
>>513526625
i never said that ukraine dont have massive losses.
i said that russia is not interested in their bodies.
are you on crocodile right now?

>>513526032
>>513526270
>tf
>tp
It's him

>>513526574
They want 1914 border after we singlehandedly buck broke the weak Russian empire back then.

>>513525866
Lmao you are shit at this

>>513526605
>hohols run away shitting bricks and leaving corpses behind
can you stop with that blatant kremlin propaganda there is no way it coudl ever happen

>>513526740
>saves tranny porn
>to prove a point
kek, no you are gay

>>513526032
>nobody wants them.
Then why did they still pick them up?

You suck at this lol. Pathetic.

>>513526695
What if I say smth bad abt Putin?

>>513526786
>>513526822
is this the narrative in your tranny discord right now

>>513526730
>i never said that ukraine dont have massive losses.
try reading my post

>>513526292
Well, you already finance everything in Israel and kiss kike ass with gusto, why not finance everything in Jewkraine as well?

Remember the immortal words of your president Netanyahoo when he said the US is their golden calf that they drain until it dies, then move on to a new host body...

>>513526625
>I'm asking generally, like before when you were talking about losses, when you imagined a world where ukraine has thousands of russian bodies storming their defenses
okay, show me where is said this
i just know how you want to make a foundation for some mental gymnastics

Why do they have to kill each other?

>>513526541
the people are what occupies the land.
if you don't have the people, you don't have the land.
if there are no people there anymore then your leaders are insane and you for following them. what did ukraine think was going to happen? if you have a neighbor that can kick your ass, you should be friendly if at all possible. the ZOG over here isn't going to do shit but proxy wars and economic cuckery. just be a good buffer zone country and avoid wars. you take a side, you lose, you stay neutral, you win, both powers have to negotiate with you, you have negotiating power.
never let a jew run your country.

>>513526674
your entire analysis is built on a bad assumption

>>513525921
>So why did they accept 19 bodies? Can Ukraine show the undelivered ones?

>>513526032
>you can pick them up.
>nobody wants them.
>ukraine doesnt gain anything if they recover the bodies so they just rott.
>there are hundred of videos of rotting russian corpses being eaten by several animals

>>513525787 (OP)
Can we please see the source of this?

>>513526959
>never let a jew run your country.
ok

THIS:
>>513525866

>>513525921
Because they needed to get something in return. By getting very few bodies they act like if they care for humane decency (which they absolutely don't) and also distort statistics of their casualties in the public eye.

>>513526897
there will be no new host for them. Germany is their other main host but that will obviously fall before USA

>>513526620
Russia has a world-renowned history of being content with their rulers and never revolting.

It's truly the pinnacle of stability in the world, and there's 0 chance that people are going to be unhappy with their lives in 'Novorossiya' after the war.

>>513526938
ukranians caused all of this for a PROMISE from the west that their life would be great and shit.

they hardly ever admit it but it is the only reason for all of this.

and the grim thing is.. it is not even the first time they do it. It is like the third or the fourth time by now.

>>513526959
>Flag
That's pretty ironic actually

>>513526982
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=russia+ukraine+body+ecchange

>>513527009
those blackhats crowd around all world leaders like flies on shit.
you need a Ukrainian Slav to lead Ukraine, because your Ukrainian Slav blood matters to a Ukrainian Slav leader. Zelensky drained your blood for nothing, Taras.
Israel and jews are no one's greatest ally.

>>513526972
Of course it is, it's just demonstrative of how Ukraine has NO path of winning. They missed their best chance in march 2022. They missed their second best chance in october 2022. After that it's just been getting worse and worse. The current plan on the table is giving up 4 oblasts, a proposal which I don't believe for a second is gonna be acceptable to the russians and is merely a red herring to keep the west busy. This war will be fought until its military conclusion, and ukraine as a nation-state will cease to exist in one way or another

>>513526979
>>513527060
You asked me where you claimed it, I'm showing you where you did. I don't doubt existence of your images but what I want to know if you genuinely believe this works as good evidence of Russians losing soldiers at similar or greater rate than Ukrainians.

>>513526938
>>513527054
there is a great book written by gogol for example "Taras Bulba" exactly about that..

here is a famous part from the movie based on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQBtcV99AdM

a father (hohol) kills his own sun (hohol) because he is a traitor and the only reason why he is a traitor because of a fucking PROMISE of good life and shit.

>>513527043
I wouldn't say that but clearly its preferable for the ethnic russians in this region to be part of Russia rather than Ukraine atm, I dont think anyone would deny that ukrainians have a lot of hatred for ethnic russians for obvious reasons, if I lived there and was ethnic russian I'd not even think there is much of an option

>>513526938
>>513527168
just for the context the book was published in 1835..

>>513525787 (OP)
>NOOOOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, 14:1 14:1 14:1 CRIMEA SUMMER BEACH PARTY MOSCOW BY 2026!!!!
>EU SUPERPOWER 2027 GLORY TO URINE!!!

>>513527166
Where are the thousands of storming Russian soldiers?
You implied that I said that.

Let me summarize it again for those who are still confused.
Russia has no interest in the bodies; they recruit their troops with money.
Ukraine recruits its troops through mobilization.
This means that it is better for Russia not to accept any corpses but to give Ukraine many.

>>513526032
Retarded

>>513527259
1000 is in the OP, you replied to that. How many did you imagine when you replied to OP's 1000?

An aussie asked you in >>513526232 about a clear flaw in your reasoning and you just ignored him. That's why I think you are paid for this, btw, since in this case you don't care if it's your are wrong - you are just paid to write it anyway.

>>513527282
>>513527327
>Retarded
>double reply with a vpn
kek, it seems i hit the spot

so for anyone wondering if you want a hohol do everything you want do not pay them do not give them anything.

just a promise would be more than enough.
that is the kind of people they are.

saving them is just preparing a future war like this one.
so no second thoughts, no casualties, no mercy
to the last hohol!

>>513525787 (OP)
the real 52:1 kek

>>513527259
>Ukraine recruits its troops through mobilization.
kidnapping

>>513527373
>How many did you imagine when you replied to OP's 1000?
i dont live in my imagination, like you.
i speak about facts and the major fact is that russia cant take shit since 2014

>>513527230
>minbroken because russia still haven't won yet
I really hope this war drags on forever. every seething zigger is a small victory for the world.

>>513527430
>>513527431
is this the new butthurt belt?

Meanwhile, hackers got hohol database that says they lost 1.7 million total (killed and missing).
>>513525481

>>513527431
Keep believing trooper, dreams must come true eventually lmao

>>513527476
nah those are hohols in disguise.

sbu (fsb of ukraine) does a psyop where it writes to runaway hohols and tells them that they should be patriotic and here is what they can do to help ukranian efforts.

they are psyopsed hohols trying their best.

>>513526841
>>513526913
>>513527009
>>513527060
>>513527430
Lol, you lost. You are not engaging in arguments, because you are unable to mentally deal with the idea that you might be wrong. Classic narcissism.

Have fun in your tranny discord.

>>513527162
It's basically already ceased to exist, it has been totally taken over by foreign influences, they'll never choose their own path again

>>513527555
>multi reply with seething
>you lost
>Have fun in your tranny discord.
kek, why are ziggers always projecting

The Vatnicks in this thread cannot into Object Permanence.

>Why would an advancing side have more bodies to pass on an exchange??
>We're advancing, that means we'll win!
>t. Adolf Hitler speaking to Napoleon.

>>513527430
So according to you there is an indeterminate amount of Russian bodies and you refuse to make an approximation, and Ukraine also refuses to disclose how many, for reasons that you are also unable to provide, am I getting that right?

>>513527174
I've always maintained that the only way to end the war is to have Ukraine join the EU and be administered by the EU for 10 years to fast track it to be Poland 2.0.

Ukes aren't going to be content with a ceasefire if there's no plans for their futures. They may as well just fight on for the lulz and larp as cossacks.

Novososiyans, however, won't have anything after the war. Russia doesn't have a track record of looking after people. Their only way out - imo - is to become a Chinese puppet state and basically create Chongqing 2.0 in Europe. I can see Russia mass importing all kinds of shit there soon.

>>513527618
i actually wonder why the dude behind german flag did not bring up that cope.

>>513527617
You did not say anything about the narcissism.
You said projecting...

That is an admission that you are a narcissist. Which is actually quite rare, since most narcissists are unaware that they are narcissists when they are.

Hahaha.

>>513527652
I don't know how many casualties there are on both sides, but according to the video footage, it's some kind of caveman war.
>dropping infantry without any mechanized support or drones at trenches
but everyone who says something different is a NAFO tranny, right?

>>513527652
With 1.3 million casualties counted by Ukraine, I would say that it's probably about 3 to 1 injured to killed, as recent modern wars went.
BUT, Russia is sending still wounded men to assault.
Russia is sending men across open fields in Lada,
Russia has commanders who are collecting the pay of their dead.
Russia is covering its dead Nat Guard by claiming they signed contracts, which the officers are collecting on.
Russia is literally using Donbass to create mass graves with backhoes and unloading 18 wheeler trailers into the fields.
So, I dunno, it's somewhere between 600 and 900k cargo 200 on the Russian side. I presume that, early, Ukraine faced far worse numbers while Russia enjoyed arty advantage.

read this
>>513526585
I described why what you are writing here is a lie.

>>513527618
1.7 million dead ukranians by their own stats
>>513525481

which means it is even more than that.

>>513527489
1.7M KIA and MIA (most of those are dead either way)
What about WIA? 1-2M?

>>513527866
That's horrible. Now that Russia is out of Armor, that is turning very quickly.

>>513527823
hohols do not fight in the same way other defensive wars fought.

they are constantly on attack and counter attack.

so it is nowhere near 1 to 3 as you want to believe.

>>513527043
>their lives in 'Novorossiya' after the war
Lives? You're too kind, it will be scorched earth. Those civilians who survive the war, will leave due to lack of basics (e.g. water). Poster child cities like Mariupol were re-populated with what Russian authorities had at hand (muslim churkas), but rest of this god forsaken land will be neglected.

Economic and population decline started when Russia took control last decade, however war turned that trend into literal extinction.

>>513527705
> no contribution to the discussion
>mass reply for attention
>talks about narcissm
yep, you are projecting

>>513527907
> but what about this lie I just wrote
kek

>>513525866
It's also that recovering bodies wastes time and resources. If a Russian tries to grab Ivan's corpse he WILL get killed by an FPV. Why recover bodies when you can just send the next wave over the old corpses?

>>513525787 (OP)
>New Zealand
>New
Just like New South Wales, it's a bit old now. Call yourself Zealand.

>>513526032
coping beltoid scum from museum of perfect weights and measures, ladies & gentlemen.

>>513527618
Why did the Ukrainians not have more bodies than the Russians during the attack on the Kursk Borderland or at least a similar number? They were advancing as you say so it should have been the reverse but we didn't see that at all.
Also nobody seriously believes it's 1:50 but something around 1:10 right now isn't unrealistic and you have indoctrinated retards believing it's the opposite because Russia BAD

>>513527999
Ahem.
Ze a land of what?

>>513527920
China have a wonderful, wonderful chance here to rebuild Donestk into being a '''21st century city''', where they can repopulate Koreans and Chinks, maybe even paki slaves.

China having a flagship city on European shores, from where all trade and finance is conducted, truly would be a geopolitical statement of intent.
With Istanbul building a second canal and increasing potential volume, bringing all shipping in to the Black Sea, then distributing from East Europe would also choke out Western Europe in trade.

>>513527922
>discussion
Wait, you go to pol for discussion? Ah, that explains it.
You don't have any friends? No real social interaction?

Ah shucks, so you actually thinking you are "getting" somewhere?
Or, are you not that disillusioned? You are aware of where you are right?
You are so far gone, it's pathetic, but also funny.

You are a slave to your emotions.

>>513527618
>1000:19!!!!!
Why can't Russia take Ukraine with 1000:19?
>uuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh MUH NATO
They are retards, all of them

>>513525787 (OP)
>19 Russians for 1000 turkish and ukrainians

Despite the failed turkish shenanigan and delusion, russia is fighting the turkish scoundrels and the ukro and not the West.

Finally, p*tin is a moron and there should be any POW exch*nge; this is war and not a fight between gangsters.

>>513528039
Hugh Mungus

>>513527991
Kek this cope gets better with every post.
So Ivan can't waste time and resources to get Ivan's body because Ivan is advancing, because Ivan will get killed by an FPV, but Ivan can waste time and resources to get killed by an FPV to recover Mykola's corpse because he is advancing.
Schrodinger's corpse indeed.

>>513527910
All I can tell you is that since the start of 2025 it's estimated 14 to 1, Russia lost 14 per every 1 Ukrainian loss.

>>513527937
You have a fair point Pidor, ignoring that you need to keep armor in reserve isn't fair. Plus you produce about 100 units per month, which is just amazing.
>>513528003
Clearly the collapse in Kursk would have kept them from worrying about where they stored dead Russians?
And this shit
>They exchanged less bodies
Yeah, we know, they've been attacking to take territory far less.
That doesn't mean Russia is without massive losses, you fuckers learned nothing from Barbarossa.

>>513527999
I prefer Brown Zealand

>>513528161
>it's estimated 14 to 1
14:1 was just Trump blabbering without any evidence though?

>>513528161
do you read anything but your own propaganda?
we outproduce entire west and we have more than plenty in reserves.

we are using close to 2500 drones a night every day.

>>513527907
>Now that Russia is out of Armor
Yeah, just like they have been running out of ammo for +3 years now...and that's being echoed by your generals and even your president...no wonder the US couldn't even win against the Houthis.

>>513525787 (OP)
How can the ukrainians lose 50 soldiers for every russian and still not lose? Do they have cloning vats or something?

>>513528082
>Wait, you go to pol for discussion? Ah, that explains it.
>You don't have any friends? No real social interaction?
>keeps begging for attention
here is a (((you)))for the joo
okay, it seems you are

>>513528258
No you don't get it Trump would never lie

>>513528314
no they have kidnapping vats.

>>513528258
No, the evidence is that in the last 1014 days, Ukraine has so well stabilized and defended its land, that Russia has taken only 0.98% more of Ukraine, at a cost of 1.3 million, all those tanks and armor, planes, guns, cannon, and trucks. Roughly 5500 square kilometers for almost 3 years of fighting.
As the "worlds 2nd strongest army."
>>513528261
You don't build those, china and India do.

>>513528314
I think in 5-10 years we're going to notice the extreme depopulation in Ukraine

>>513528390
nope we build those.
we even shown a video from a factory that does it.
here is something based on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7_gOkeN3eg

everything for it is sourced from Russia.

>>513527922
>projecting
>never let a jew run your country
As always, it takes one to know another.
>inb4 pretending to not know
Sorry that doesn't work here. Not my problem tho.

>>513526499
Ukrainian women are rimming niggers in Europe and the USA just to make ends meet and now they will have to go back and get gangraped to death by pajeets.
This is what ukrainian "men" are dying for.

>>513526326
Do you believe Ukraine's goal is to conquer all of the russia?

>>513527431
notice that it's always majority swarthoid nations

>>513528499
they have no goal.
they have no leadership.

they are a puppet.

do you think a goal of a puppet just sit there with a hand in it's butt and say nonsense?

>>513528499
I'm thinking it's about time they did.

>>513528312
yes, they have been running out of armor for the last 3 years. and artillery, and shells, and planes.
wow, I think you're actually getting the hang of this now.
let's say it again, Ukraine turned the corner on Russian attacks, and is turning Ukrainian soil red with Russian invader blood. While they are having to fall back because of the population advantage in the immediate, Russia is now taking unruly losses to make any gains at all, while losing factories.
>>513528314
NATO super clones. The Russians have killed every Ukrainian 4 times by now, but the damned NATO west keeps cloning new Ukies.

>>513528457
That's Iranian license, but congrats to you. Also, that factory just got hit last week, I bet it's still out of production.

>>513528577
omg, it's reverting to 2022 propaganda to cope...

>>513528161
>you fuckers learned nothing from Barbarossa
Retarded non sequitur.
Ukrainians have had over three years and like a trillion burger dollars in resources and technology from Western states to do what the Soviets did in Stalingrad (even with the encirclement and captured German Army the Germans still suffered less losses) and we are supposed to believe Ukrainians are doing well with their dozen failed "counteroffensives".

>>513525866
Seems like coping at this point, kinda sad and pathetic

>>513527937
>>513527866
so when are you going to sign up? according to your stats, it should be less than 2% chance for you to die, and even 2-5 times less chance of getting wounded. think of it, you'll be called a hero by the fellow russians, instant $25k for a signup and then $5k/monthly; and there's probably other social perks. literally, a piece of cake of a task, that's definitely better than wasting your time shilling propaganda for free on the internet.

>>513525787 (OP)
When you are the advancing force on the battlefield it's usually you who collect dead bodies. When Ukraine kills Russian's in their trenches it's not Ukrainians who collect them.

>>513528603
that is only one of many factories like that.
3 more are being built as we speak.

It has been 100% rebuilt and improved - it has little to do with iranian drones.

your propaganda is even more pathetic.
> we are winning because they are not perfect or something

Ivans shilling hard all over the board today. Was there a smoooking accident somewhere?

>>513525911
Not enought
Kill more hohols

>>513527054
>>513527168
>>513527205
>this is how the ukrainians forced us to attack them and genocide them to take all their land!
This is why no one likes you snow nigerians.

>>513528650
and that is relevant to this topic or this thread how exactly?

why do you have to spam same things in every thread?

>>513528639
Hey, smarty, the US was supplying Russia during Barbarossa. Don't tell anyone tho!
lol
Additionally, yeah, we're helping. Iran is helping you, China is helping you, North Korean and Khazakstan are helping you. Even India is helping you.
BRICS baby!

>>513525944
>Why are the Russians so evil to make us pay for those dead Ukies?
>switzerland flag
Nice try Ivan!

>>513528729
it is not their land and they forced us in multiple way.
We were the most patient good boys on the planet until it hit a critical mass.

>>513528386
I'm imagining a vat located near the front that when activated just zap teleports in a random ukrainian from the street. The new soldier is then equipped and sent straight out into the front line.

>>513528786
>they forced us in multiple way.
Ahh, the poor Kremlin, forced to kill people in their own homes, because they have no agency unless others force them!

None, they're just killing machines waiting for someone to turn them on. Gosh, it's so hard being you.
Nigger.

>>513528786
>well actually they did force us and actually since they were once part of the soviet union and rurik and ancient slav aliens and novgorod
You are incorrigible.

>>513525787 (OP)
well well well

>>513528335

>>513528839
Kek. Indeed. Imagine if the noble dindu Ruskis foiled le ebil West's dastardly plans by simply not invading their neighbour.

>>513528839
we specifically kill people on our land on the battlefied.
they did multiple provocations and the funny thing is usa had wars for each one of those with other countries.


every time one of you niggers try to claim some moral high ground you just sound retarded and hypocritical.

>>513528754
China (their industry) is the US in the 20th century. The US now is the British Empire in the 20th century - an over-extended declining empire.

>>513528835
with the way things going ukranians will put pregnant women in trenches soon so they can spawn more ukranians while defending for a sudden counter attack.

How many years before we'll get actual real stats about the war?

>>513528928
Yes. It's amazing that the Ukies have slowed stronk Ruzzia's advance to a literal snail's pace with the four guys they have left. They must be undercover bong ninjas

I’m surprised no piggers are in here claiming Russia is handing over bodies of its own troops to hide the evidence of massive Russian casualties.

>>513525787 (OP)
Wait, why only 1000? Didn't 100000 die in kursk alone?

>>513529036
It's up to future historians to unravel after the fact

>>513526378
>to that prohols would be screaming 'but muh laws of war say the attacker suffers 3 times the casualties that the defender does'...
What a lot of people (redditors) don't seem to understand is that the invader can still fight a defensive war, and Russia has been doing to. If I want to kill someone but their house is full of bear traps and landmines, maybe go and smash up their car so they come outside instead and have things set up outside in my favor.

>>513528835
there is a genre of games called slav simulator.
I wish someone will build one where you play a ukranian in modern ukraine.

running away from the white vans and surviving the drones.

the only goal is not to die.

>>513528999
You hope?

>>513529036
Never. Not only have multiple Russian commands been burned to the ground, multiple draft offices in Russia, and now in Ukraine, have as well.
You will be able to guess at it, based on MIA, and maybe remains as they sweep for mines, if that even happens in anything Russia controls.
Considering the thoughtfulness of the average Russian commander, you'll never know. I'm guessing, and this is a guess, that the MIA assumed AWOL count will be enormous for Russia.

>>513529062
not every body is in one peace.
try collecting atomized hohols in kursk - it is not an easy feat.

>>513528740
i don't spam the retarded propaganda, unlike you. i just did the math with you numbers and asked you a valid, yet relevant question for your flag. i imagine many other people ask you the same thing, given how proactively you shill an absolute nonsense.

>>513525787 (OP)
>spreading Russian propaganda willingly on /pol/
KEK! HIVan you're too obvious.

>>513529062
These exchanges happen weekly/biweekly

>>513526095
picking up fresh bodies is easier than old ones. Russia is holding the battlefields that is why the numbers discrepancy not some Russian Rambo fighter shit. They put cooperating/compromised prisoners and punished on pickup duty.

>>513529254
if you want to you can signup yourself.
go ahead.

>>513529183
Pidor, we see Russians exploded by drones daily. Your government is a lying sack of shit. Go get conscripted and die. I am sick and tired by Russian flags posting the slop your government feeds you here.

>>513529347
Putin needs you, pidor. Go join the army. There is an Ukrainian drone with your name written on it waiting for you.

>>513526389
>But Ukraine is the one that needs PR
like when trump said that the casualty ratio is 14 dead russians per dead ukrainian? that kind of PR?

>>513529389
those videos are just adrenaline cope.
I mean you have a daily video where one guy dies on a battlefield.
It is not always clear if he is a russian or not.

>>513529389
>>513529444
Why did you run from ukranny?

>>513529444
lmao.
this seething is palatable :D

>>513529121
>Ukrainian simulator
Don't forget the DLC about brave Ukrainian Patriots who live in the West collecting refugee gibs and fight the Russians on the most important front: The Internet. We have a few in ITT.

>>513525866
Okay, but why don't the Ukrainians use the unaccepted bodies for their propaganda like literally everything else

>>513528835
you want a piece of me boy? you want a piece of me boy? you want a piece of me boy? you want a piece of

>>513529545
kek
that game would be super epic :D
I mean if you are captured you still have a chance.
surrender or run away if you can.

survive the droning.

add some obvious slav memes and stereotypes and it is pure gold.

>>513529633
why would they? what does ukraine get out of that propaganda?

russia manipulates these body exchanges to erode support among the western public among useless idiots like you. ukraine has locked in support from european governments and so doesn't need to play these dumb media games to persuade the german government to send them more missiles.

ukraine and russia have different messaging needs and therefore different messaging strategies.

>>513528603
>I bet it's still out of production.
Lol do you now.

>>513526817
you're a cuck, nothing you say has any weight, your 23+ pbtid are meaningless because you're cock locked by a herpes ridden pig whore and love it, you fag, you shameless excuse of a man

>>513526197
If they are winning so much, why are they retreating?

>>513529721
Ukraine doesn't need propaganda when they have THE GHOST OF QUEEF AND THE SNAKE ISLAND DEFENDERS!
HELL YEAH!
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64855760

>>513529721
>what does ukraine get out of that propaganda?
No clue, but they still do it. That 14:1 statistic sure as shit isn't representative of reality. And all the bodies exploding in the snow tgat they keep uploading recently also don't really have anything to do with what's going on on their current fronts.

>>513529821
i sneedcept your chuckcession

>>513529880
Isn't this the phrase you use to signal bots to kill a thread?

>>513528499
we already know what their goal is
to get back crimea and donbass
>year 12 of special anti terrorist operation

>>513528082
>You don't have any friends?
He has this, though >>513526740
kek, have a laugh at your average nafo tranny, anon

>>513529959
I'm rooting for them to get it back in year 50

>>513529875
>That 14:1 statistic sure as shit isn't representative of reality
cope lmao. you have no basis on which to believe that. sure, trump's drooling brainfarts are hardly an ironclad source, but i take them more seriously than i do the wishful thinking of vatniks because at least trump is probably getting the numbers from somewhere, especially when trump is basically on putin's side.

lol lmao etc

>>513530021
We would have to import so many Indians to Ukraine to make the war last that long.

>>513530078
Wasn't that the plan from the start?

>>513529513
>>513529526
>>513529532
>Pidors hiding under their beds so the conscription does not find them give me free (you)s
KEK go get conscripted and die. Putin needs you!

>>513530021
same cause i will be extremely disappointed if less than 20 mil of slavshits dies xD

>>513526224 did ur nafo ass ever realise the bodies were covered in reagent so that they would stop rotting which means no protection was needed

>>513530175
zelensky needs you even more.

why do people like you always have 0 self awareness?
is it a part of being nafo?

>>513530056
The basis for not believing it is the insane claim that there are only 80000 casualties on the Ukrainian side.
I don't need to disprove an assertion.

>>513530107
The original plan was to have Ukraine join NATO, but they elected a new President who axed the deal so we had to overthrow their government, which led to the war.
https://www.nato.int/docu/update/2008/04-april/e0403h.html

>>513529811
>first post
>only gay stuff
kek, nice vpn pidor

>>513527069 same can be said for ur invading kike ass u israeli fag

>>513530267
>the basis for not believing it is wishful thinking
yeah i know

Lmao rusnigger cope and slide spam off the charts
>1:14

>>513530399
I thought it was still taboo to call the colour revolutions what they really were.
I wonder how history books are going to cover the entire fiasco and potential reclamation of emperial Russian territory

Why would they ever hand back such a good source of organs?

>>513530730
Please explain how not believing that twice the active Russian military assests have been destroyed is wishful thinking

>>513530224
shut up and voluntarily get into my Russians getting droned folder

>>513526270
Uh, no Ukraine stated plenty of times that their goal was to retake Crimea and repereshuns from Russia

>>513531408
no, they have the same wargoal like the taliban.
just sit it out

>>513531465
If they are sitting it out the just should have, sat it out, instead of losing 10% of the population in counteroffensiyvs, if only they had Afghan birthrate this would have also worked, sadly they have almost Japanese birthrates kek, Ukraine will disolve kek, truly 404

>>513531589
do you mean the 10% that are living as refugees in europe?
kek

>>513531589
Japanese birth rates are way higher than Ukrainian birth rates.
Ukrainians are competing with Worst Koreans for last spot.

>>513525787 (OP)
Because Russia gets access to the bodies as they advance. Ukraine, doesn't, generally.
>By the way, such a scene is observed under almost every bush in the Pokrovsk direction. Sometimes it's hard to distinguish the living from the dead, but not for long» – Peaky Blinders unit
Russia also always gives Ukraine a bunch of their own dead bodies.

>>513530864
anything you choose to believe is wishful thinking because you have zero capacity, as some random fucking person, to come to correct conclusions about anything in an active war where both sides are trying very hard to lie to people who are a lot smarter and have a lot more resources than you.

if you are right about anything it will only be by accident.

your refusal to have even the most basic humility about the limits of your ability to know things reveals how fundamentally unserious you are.

>>513525787 (OP)
Russia's constantly gaining access to the new territory, because Ukraine is, generally, tactically retreating, to preserve personnel, since they are out numbered. It doesn't even make sense that Russia would constantly be advancing into the most heavily mined paces on earth, while Ukraine ISN'T constantly doing that, that Ukraine would have more casualties.

>>513525866
>no body = no money
Exactly!

>>513526095
Propaganda. Shows tonthr world the casualties of ukr army. Moral boost. We kill them like flies and so on.
Leverage in exchange.
Immoral state will not take the bodies of these who are supposed to be the heroes that died to protect it. Exposing the evil. Ukr state and brewing internal discontent and anger among the living Ukrainians.

>>513525866
this

>>513532096
Then what the fuck is the point of calling not believing the insane casualty reports from Ukraine wishful thinking?
And how isnt what you're doing wishful thinking?

updated list

>>513525787 (OP)
Wars are the Jews harvest.

Zelensky wants more goyim blood to quench his Jew thirst.

>>513525866
xD this levels of cope

the funniest bit is that I know you are UPAinian faggot in geymany or brown dick lover, most likely both

>>513532266
Could it be that the area isn't all thst heavily mined and that the Ukrainians aren't having a very orderly retreat?

>>513525866
Cope more loser. Lol

>>513532266
Holee projection, these AIs must be programmed to just do that i guess
Nothing but projection kek

>>513530224
>why do people like you always have 0 self awareness?
Why exactly are you defending the actions of a guy that scored 3/5 in math tests, got arrested for stealing lumber, was a small buerocrat in a completely broken and corrupt system, and shits on your laws, shits on your constitution, and mindrapes your children to become drones for the csar?

Are you stupid?

>>513535817
More than 100,000 Russian families have reached out to a Ukrainian-run initiative “I Want to Find” seeking information about missing Russian soldiers, Ukraine’s Coordination Headquarters for the Treatment of Prisoners of War reported on June 12.

The statement stated that this figure is significantly lower than the actual number of Russian troops missing in action.

>>513536160
Who are you talking about, your daddy?

>>513525866
>>513525866
>>513525866
RUSSIANS REALLY GOT TRIGGERED
BY TRUMP SAYING 14:1

LOL. 14 DEAD RUSSIANS FOR EVERYONE ONE UKRAINIAN --- PRESIDENT TRUMP

>> 2 MILLION RUSSIANS HAVE DISAPPEARED FROM SOCIETY
>> 500K FLED RUSSIA
>> EVERYTHING'S FINE

DURING
A DEMOGRAPHIC CRISIS, MIND YOU

RUSSIA & WEIMERICA ARE IMPLODING. AGAIN. IT'S THE JEWS ISN'T IT ANONS.

GOODNIGHT
SWEET
JEWISH PRINCE BOOMERCEL

>>513525866
German cuck, you lost WW2 and now you are losing your mind in your communistic shithole. HAHAHAHAHA a literal retarded monkey from cave is now ruining your country.

>>513526499
Good thing Russia is part of BRICS they can have free trade Indians.

https://www.thehindu.com/business/Economy/india-signs-terms-of-reference-for-trade-deal-with-russia-and-others/article69955855.ece

Just remember, any deal with Modi involves Indian immigrants. Perfect for Russia with their labor shortages

https://m.economictimes.com/nri/work/russia-to-import-1-million-skilled-workforce-from-india/articleshow/122437135.cms

>>513536505
Everything that is demographics related in Russia is even worse in Ukraine.

>>513536268
>he doesnt even know anything about the guy whos cock he is sucking
Ignorant Perversions, the thirdies specialty.

>>513536669
I did not participate in World War II, and I am certain that Germany would have used gas on the Eastern Front if I had participated.

>>513536669
>Nation produces Tanks that kill Tanks that fly the soviet flag
>The ones killing the commie tanks are clearly commie
What kind of Third World Brown brainrot is this.
How do people like you even survive.
Parents?

>>513537315
That much, huh? Have you tried fixing your diet?

>>513527282
Naa, it's a Ukike escapee living in Germoney.

>>513525787 (OP)
So why is it year 4 of special operation

A reminder
The faggot who talks in all caps is not an American nor a national socialist
He is a Sunni nigger most likely a filthy Turkish subhuman

>>513525787 (OP)
14:1 bros?
53:1 perhaps?

>>513528724
>t. Zelensky