Thread 513534374

You're not allowed to complain about the downfall of the West if you're also anti-Catholic/Orthodox.

A society needs a foundational ethos to flourish an maintain itself. What is yours? What is the West's now?

Inb4 "You worship a Jewish Rabbi" and revealing you know nothing about Christian thought or history

Also, Protestants cannot participate in this thread. It's your fault for the atheism and degenerate liberalism.

>>513534374 (OP)
Orthodox and Catholics are cucks

>>513534374 (OP)
Jesus Christ was a pedophile schizo with a God complex.
>Every one of Jesus’ apostles besides Peter was underage (neaniskos is the Greek word used)
>When a woman questions why he hangs out with kids he says “don’t scandalize me”
>Tells these boys he will make them “fishers of men”
>Goes into upper rooms and washes their feet while naked
>Tells them to “eat his flesh and drink his haima” (if you think this means “blood” here, see Ezekiel 23:20)
>Is arrested in a public park at 4am with a naked boy (see Mark 14:51-52)
>When the cops show up he says “why do you come for me with swords and clubs like I’m some kind of leistes”
>The word leistes, which gets translated as “thief” is actually “pirate” and was used in contemporary texts (many examples such as Lucian’s Alexander) to refer to sex traffickers
>Sex trafficking was a big problem in the Mediterranean and one of the big things the Romans did was crack down on the pedo pirates. Julius Caesar himself was kidnapped by them as a kid and afterwards had them all crucified
>Jesus Christ was in fact crucified between two other leistes
There's a reason Jesus's "Most Beloved Disciple" is always depicted as a beardless boy whereas the rest of his followers had beards. Dude liked em young.

>>513534374 (OP)
>Christianity is based when you ignore what's in the Bible

Western civilisation was founded by pagan Greeks and Romans, which Christians subverted and destroyed on behalf of their jewish masters.

>>513534374 (OP)
>You're not allowed to complain about the downfall of the West if you're also anti-Catholic/Orthodox.
lmao

>>513534374 (OP)
Only Whites are Catholics. Spics get the rope.

>>513534759

Christianity is basically Monotheistic Hellenism. It was literally built in Greece by Hellenistic Greeks before it spread to Western Europe. The Trinity is Hellenistic. It was adopted by Rome.

You can't get more Greco-Roman than Catholicism.

The constant "Christianity is a Jewish import to Europe" is 100% a psyop and you morons keep falling for it.

>>513535383
>It was literally built in Greece by Hellenistic Greeks
>You can't get more Greco-Roman than Catholicism.
what getting blacked out drunk on wine before it's even proper evening does to a mf

>>513535383
>why does /pol/ hate christianity???
>christianity is very Greek, goy!
Pick one. Do you claim Marxism is just redistributive Prussianism?

>>513535455

Your historical illiteracy is not my problem. Catholic theology and philosophy is basically repackaged Aristotelianism (i.e. Aquinas)

But cool, keep rejecting it while Muslims mobilize and have pride in their worldview

>>513535963

You realize the Jews DON'T want highly Catholic Europe, right? The Jews don't like Christianity for many reasons and it's why the embrace secular liberalism.

Also, a video of Ben Shapiro using the word "Judeo-Christian" does not change this.

>>513535993
nothing screams HELLENISM like going around Hellas destroying everything the Hellenes held dear, closing down the schools, cutting down the oak of Zeus at Dodona, beginning to use the word "Hellen" as synonym with outsider/heathen, VGH, PVRE HELLENISM

you'll grow out of this phase, kid
>Catholic theology and philosophy is basically repackaged Aristotelianism (i.e. Aquinas)
no shit, christian kalergians had to get their culture from somewhere, being rootless bioleninist mongrels

>>513534374 (OP)
Orthoxies genocided catholics

>>513534374 (OP)
/pol/ is infested by jewish shills, reddit atheists, and protestants.

>>513534374 (OP)
Basically I just went back to the source of western civilization and skipped the christian stuff, thats where they got their concept of logos and stuff like that aswel

>>513536132
>sicut judaeis
>court jews
>royalty status in the HRE
>exemptions from usury laws under Charlemagne and others
>fake expulsions where jews got pawned off on neighboring Europeans for a few years and were allowed to return
>fake conversions where jews were baptized and they just continued practicing judaism in private
Jews didn't have banking dynasties or bloody revolutions in Europe before christianity. They have gained everything and lost nothing from converting Europeans to christianity. All we really learned during that time is that Europeans are the real enemies of christians, which is why European ancestral faiths were completely erased, while jews grew in numbers by the millions.

>>513535383
>capitalizing jew
Nice try.

>>513536396
The Christian concept of logos is fundamentally different. First and foremost in the fact that it's personal.
Word-concept fallacy.

>>513534374 (OP)
Más tonto y no naces.

Catholics rape kids probably more than yids. If you deny this, you're a coping Abrhamic death cultist.

>>513536821
Greeks seemed to used logos to describe underlying order of the universe and in the bible there are verses that imply atleast to myself something very similar
>John 1:1-3, 14: "In the beginning was the Logos, and the Logos was with God, and the Logos was God... All things were made through him... And the Logos became flesh and dwelt among us."
In christianity logos becomes flesh in the form of Jesus Christ and his mission is to reveal divine truth (underlying order of the universe) which to me seems the largest difference

Dyaus-Pitr is the Aryan Sky Father, his consort is Privthi, the Earth Mother and primordial feminine, an aspect of Shakti because the pure energy forms matter after being impregnated by the pure consciousness, the Sky Father. Consciousness is as boundless as the skies and heavens, it is not limited and is within all beings.
The sun is his all-seeing eye. The rain falling from the sky was seen as a microcosmic version of the Sky-Father impregnating the Earth Mother to give way to all of creation and the life Privthi produced with the rain symbolized her nurturing aspect. They're both one in Brahman, the Lord, and their child is all of creation of which they are intertwined.

>>513537462
Which is to say the Christian logos is personal, which then expands to the concept of logoi.

You lost me at Brahman

>>513537900
Dyaus-Pitr is a Vedic Aryan God. Brahman, or as the Aryans commonly use in the Vedas, the Lord or heaven-Father (Heavenly Father).

>>513537900
My bad, I meant to say Dyaus-Pitr is the heavenly father. Brahman is called the Lord, which is all of them as one in creation, the ultimate nature of existence and the one true God. Dharmakaya.

why are catholic countries shitholes /pol/?
And why did you follow me to my country when i was trying to get away from you?

>>513538259
B-but thats a poo word

>>513537874
Can you expand on what the personal means in this context? As far as I understand logos is synonymous with god in many schools of thought in Greek philosophy aswel

>>513534374 (OP)
Nigger. Abrhamics are not western. It came from Israel. How is this hard? It's only as old as 450AD. Yes. Look it up. Just like Heebs are only as old as 500BC.
Fuck off to the desert if you want abrahamic society's and people.

>>513534374 (OP)
/pol/ is a masonic board full of masonic faggots that have no idea they're masonicaly inspired faggots.

>>513534374 (OP)
Hitler was Catholic, the allies were Protestant, Tsarist Russia was Orthodox, South Africa was/is Calvinist. England is Anglican. From this point of view, it seems God sides with Evangelicalism.

>>513534374 (OP)
you believe sodomy is a gift of God

>>513538531
Aryans are invaders to Europe. We were the Lords of Asia before entering most of Europe.

>>513538531
The Scythians called the Sky-Father Papaios. Father Dios.

>>513538960
Aryans are from Europe, especially if you mean proto-indo-iranians

>>513534641
The Sermon on the mount is still filtering people to this day

>>513534374 (OP)
jew do that, and 4xhan is full of jews. you see , the only problem with those churches is that they have been inflatrated by jews and many priests are actually undercover jews . real christians hate jews, always have hated jews and always will.

>>513538622
The Greek understanding is more prennialistic, as in it's merely an idea, and always detached from the world itself.
The Christian understanding of a personal logos means that it is something that actually interacts with the world.
I'm not much of a scholar myself, you'd need to read up on Maximus the Confessor who really fleshed out the Christian logos.
Here's an article that I quickly whipped out of google that seems to get it:
>https://afkimel.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/jordan-wood-on-maximus.pdf

>>513534374 (OP)
Yeah orthodoxy did a lot for Romania
>checks fertility rate
zozzle

>>513534374 (OP)
Logical faliure.
Any religion is stumping modern progress. With that being said, modern world failed to substitute religion with something that would feed human soul and guide the society.
What west needs is to incorporate something like religion into its teachings, but to say that our only hope is to return into believing into zombie Jesus and big daddy in the sky is prime NPC thinking.

>>513534461
All christians are christcucks.

>>513534374 (OP)
Catholicism is globohomo 1.0 and part of mystery babylon

>>513539062
boy....you'll never guess the ethnicity of the founder of the church....

>>513534374 (OP)
Enjoy faithmaxxing your life to be surrounded by niggers in heaven.

>>513539145
you are indeed an idiot. religion is needed , you have no idea what youa re talking about,and we are here because of people like you.

>>513539185
Reminds me of the Episcopalians in America who refused the South African refugees. Just how many churches exist for political/ social/ financial reasons? Is everything except fundamentalism a meme?

>>513539284
religion is indeed needed, just like water, but if the market of water bottles gets monopolized by people who want to sell you sewage water, people will get thirstier and thirstier and maybe even die before touching it

this is the situation with the abrahamic pestilence, people crave spirituality but the market is constantly flooded by these peddlers of jewish guilt based systems and lots of people have abrahamic fatigue

>>513539284
>religion
And worship is why we are in such deep shit, conformist cattle

>>513539185
Christianity never does this it is the jews within that do those things. Christianity always wants to help people in their own countries never bring them to us. jews and their NGOs are pushing multiculturalism, ...

>>513534374 (OP)
i hate you faggot biblethumpers and how you can literally only talk on christianity and relate fucking everything back to it, no matter how irrelevant it is to the actual underlying subject

but no, the first crusade was maybe the most thoroughly well-justified intl military coalition that ever happened.
sandppl need to stay in the sandbox unless they can stop being 7th century LARPers who rape kids. which shouldnt be a terribly big ask. its that simple. dont need to bring god into the discussion at all. if you act like a 7th century goat-herder, youre eventually gonna get cleaved in half by a zweihander.
metaphorically speaking, of course

>>513539440
christianity is jewish from day 1 and a global south religion, sorry you fell for goyper memes, lil turd

>>513539284
>and we are here because of people like you.
No, thats because of jews

>>513539418
this is to be seen , when i speak about religion i speak about god, i don't name my God, he is who he is . i just know that jews are the opposite of good

>>513539075
But in Platonism there is a concept of a divine creator that made up this underlying order of the universe so that automatically implies that god atleast at some point was not detached from the world itself but directly involved with setting up the underlying order of the universe
>you'd need to read up on Maximus the Confessor who really fleshed out the Christian logos
Will do, I have become much more interested in all this stuff lately, thanks for the recommendation

>>513539029
Archaeological findings, including kurgans (burial mounds) and artifacts with the distinctive "Animal style" art, are older in the eastern Altai region (like those in Tuva) than in the western regions associated with the Scythians. This suggests an eastern origin for the Scythian culture and its spread westward. Ancient cave systems in the Xinjiang region of China were built by Scythians, or at least used by them. Scythian priests worshipped an ancestral deity as well known as the serpent-legged goddess, she was human from the waist up and a serpent from the waist down.
Obviously this is what the Hindus call a Naga who have dominion over subterranean cave systems as well as water systems throughout the planet, so it could be either really. Perhaps the Scythians lived side-by-side with the Nagas.

>>513539543
he is a jew so yes you are correct

>>513539717
Scythian is a subset of Aryan both if you mean proto-indo-european and proto-indo-aryan, they don't encompass "Aryans" as a whole
and yes it's a offshot of Andronovo, of course it's from the east
https://doi.org/10.1126/sciadv.ads8179

>>513539284
Like i said, NPC take.
I understand there is need for religion, but settling for any of current religions is utterly retarded.
New religion needs to be created that is based in reality, not some magic shit that doesnt want me to mastrubate or eat meat on Fridays.

>>513539396
it allows them to fulfill one of the primary moral obsession of christianity and its secular offspring liberalism which finances it, the survival of everything that is botched and weak

>>513534374 (OP)
>pol is one person
pol is many people, everyone retarded.

>>513539993
>y-you don't understand bro
>I HAVE to masturbate
>I can't STOP myself
>masturbation is the high point of my day guys
>if I'm not masturbating I'm thinking of it
lol @ your life

>>513538689
>Hitler was Catholic
Not really, he was spiritual and respected the beliefs of his people.

>>513534374 (OP)
Charity from churches who love jews is a main driver for importing tons of braindead niggers and the downfall of the west.
The old testament is all about jews, of course stories they stole from Hellenism (Noah's ark) and other religions and rewrote them to fit their narrative, so if you deny that you know nothing about Christianity.

>>513540190
>>513538689
Lmao he was part of the Thule Society, a pagan satanic ritual council. Himmler was even worse
>B-but... M-muh Fuhrer!! He is perfect!!
He used Christianity as a scapegoat to get support for his cause. Same reason he named it "National Socialist" even though it wasn't fully socialist (some parts of the governance were)
Also Hitler stated that he'd rather Muslim take over Germany than any form of Christianity as he saw them as too merciful and the Islamics as, idk violent or something (ironic lolol)
Also also, Bormann said "National Socialism and Christianity are incompatible" in like 1941 or 42

>>513540116
Another NPC that doesnt understand the absurdity of being baned of doing natural stuff because some 2 milenia old zombi says it will put your soul into hell.

Its not about what is being forbidden but why! I anit living my life based on what some schizo said 2000 years ago.
Fuck
That
Shit
Ether bring Christianity into 21st century or fuck off.
If we were having this discussion in 16th century you would be saying that earth is in the center of the universe because thats what the curch says.
If you want people to stop mastrubating explain why its not good or why is it better not to mastrubate. Threatening people with ethernal damnation only works on double digit IQ NPC like yourself

I was highly disappointed with this film after watching this scene on youtube
Cool sets and stuff but when they're like
>let's sit at a chess board
I had to roll my eyes. Rough script. That mask is super dope tho.

>>513534374 (OP)
All I see are conjectures

>>513539418
> Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:
> 12And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.
> 13In that day shall the fair virgins and young men faint for thirst.
> 14They that swear by the sin of Samaria, and say, Thy god, O Dan, liveth; and, The manner of Beersheba liveth; even they shall fall, and never rise up again.
the sin of samaria was letting the government control the religious observance and contradict the Bible, which america does by redefining marriage with divorce courts

>>513540473
>Hitler was a jew
>BUT NOT JESUS

>>513535383
>The Trinity is Hellenistic.
It's absolutely not. It's a perversion of greek philosophical thought applied haphazardly to judaic theism in order to make said theism more palatable to goys. Anyone who defends the trinity doctrine is a retard or an agenda driven hack. Which are you?

>>513540473
National Socialism will win in the end. It will become the new religion for Europeans.

>>513534374 (OP)
That’s such a cool aesthetic. Is the movie actually any good? The fact that that goat fucking desert rat saladin won those wars becomes more bitter by the year.

Christ is God

>>513539881
What if the Scythians getting their partially-Naga blood into all the others gave us characteristics which remain integral to our character and other Aryan tribes carry it too?
Have you ever heard of the giant of Kandahar? Vajrayana Buddhist tradition states that a kingdom in Afghanistan, which was ruled by the Scythians, was a kingdom that attained complete enlightenment. Stories of giants in cave systems are common there. So, my point all comes down to what if the Scythians were a people who were described as barbaric because non-enlightened societies didn't understand how to harmonize with nature?

>>513541378
No as I said just that scene was cool and some sets and history bits
bad script, bad main protag

Larpers go into the ditch With Jews and Pajeets'
That is the cost of falling for Divide and Conquer.
Most Muslims are still in the Middle east. So their only hope is you stay asleep before you realize all it takes is for us to decide no more. We are going to use the same Weapons and tactic's the Kikes are using on the Gazan's on the rest of you. Euro's are the worst though and you all should be begging Russia to Take over Europe. Your own leaders openly brag about replacing you and making you live in the pods and you're cool so because all the brave men in Europe gone replaced by Atheist c uc ks happy to suicide and drag the rest down with them because you are cuc ks. Whole of Europe is descended from Russian and Islamic rape babies so figures. .At least you can cope by calling us Mutts or Gollum's as the women around you are state sponsored raped. And you niggers think Vlad is the bad guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEL9uRZrACs

>>513534374 (OP)
>orthodoxy
inherently eastern branch of christianity, so no westener should give a shit about it
>catholicism
western branch of christianity, but western mind is not rooted in it.
>why
western mind is inherently pagan. chivalry, pagan moral codes, roman law. all christianity did is to supress natural instincts of western man. as soon renaissance happened, European man conquered the world, as soon as secularized christianity happened (liberalism) we fell apart. folly of western man is lack of insight and getting trapped in same trap, only cosmetically changed, while entrapping mechanism is the same.

>>513541721
>being this mad
kek, so when Vlad sends a rape train of muslim conscripts from Dagestan or Chechnya, it is because he cares.

>>513540568
>noooo you don't understand masturbation is NATURAL
>EVERYONE masturbates
>it's schizophrenic to tell me to stop masturbating
>I'm so high IQ you see, that's why I masturbate so much
XD

>>513542214
>all christianity did is to supress natural instincts of western man.
Spanish empire begs to disagree

>>513538689
fucking english nigger
drown in nigger piss

>>513542354
No because you are weak and are nothing without the grace of my tax dollars. What happens if there aren't American bases in Europe? Hope like digging trenches and the sound of drones buzzing. You'll stay in a state of war or lose at the decision of a Fat Jewish Controlled boomer. I have to pay an average of 3$ more for my food, Still chilling in A/C and still nowhere near to being Drafted or Droned as compared to you. But you're all used to gabbing your ankles Since the time of the Romans.

>>513534374 (OP)
the efforts of the jews to fill the west with blacks and browns pales compared to what christians have accomplished
both orthodox and catholics fought to make race mixing legal here
the catholic church fights to remove the right to self defense

>>513534374 (OP)
I admit that Christainity has taken us a long way - but there comes a time to cast away the training wheel and try to balance on your own.
Also - IS THE POPE WASHING NIGGER'S FEET WHILE GROVELLING ON HIS KNEES THE WAY FORWARD FOR THE WEST?

>>513541000
Nice strawman, Early Judaism WAS Christianity before they made the Talmudic abominations and began becoming a plague on the Earth in the 400's

>>513541285
National Socialism needs to be major-ly reformed before it can be even thought of being implemented again
No war economy reliance, no lack of proper leadership/loyalty, no persecution of slavs and southern Europeans, etc etc

>>513545115
>nothing without the grace of my retardation
You realize Norway pays for you right? Not the other way around, dumbo.
If we take out all our money from your country, it might collapse or you would spiral deeper into debt and default.
I would honestly be all for that, but my country is retarded.
>american bases in europe
Useless since they are no longer trustworthy allies.
>lose at the decision of a fat jewish controlled boomer
You mean Trump?

speaking for the uniform monolith that is /pol/
/pol/ is sick of religions that are about Jesus with very little in the way of relationship with Jesus.
Christ-grifters keep talking up 'Christian values' as if clearing maggots from the sores will cure the leprosy, instead of of proclaiming the Man, Christ Jesus, has lived perfect, died while taking on himself the full penalty of our sin, and rose from the dead by the power of his endless life, so that we might be reconciled to God the Father and be adopted into his family through the blood of Jesus.
THAT is Christianity, and insofar as Roman Catholics or Eastern Orthodox churches make Christianity about anything else, they can be chopped firewood.

>>513546835
certainly need to rethink the "leader principle"
but slavs needn't have schengen travel rights to northwest europe

>>513549374
protestantism is the cancer that weakened europe enough for the "enlightenment" to take hold.

Europe is built on Christianity. It's sad that we know is at the second generation after de-Christianization and most young Europeans are clueless about their own culture. At best they are just parroting the anti-Christian propaganda from the Marxists that hated them in the first place

>>513534374 (OP)
/pol/ is mostly jeets and sandniggers nowadays

>>513549732
liberal theology is what is destroying Europe, not a certain denomation

>>513549732
the vatican heresies were what weakened europe, the protestant response was inevitable.
you comment is analogous to:
> calling the police on a father that rapes their homeschooled children is what lead to the children being exposed to public school lies faggot and race-mixing acceptance, and lies about all races of humans being equal.
of course it's sad to have the increased vulnerabilities through worldly lies (i.e. "muh enlightenment") but maybe the fault lies in the first order breaches of trust, not the righteous response to evil.

>>513549878
>>513550317
liberal theology is a direct result of the protestant deformation.

>>513550555
nah, it's institutional. You will find that the more conservative churches are autocephalous, while the liberal churches are the ones with connection to the feds/state or bureaucracy and whatever is politically correct this week.

>>513534374 (OP)
/pol/ is Catholic/orthodox newfag

>>513550812
and most protestant faiths were enforced from a top-down level. you're just saying the same thing as me while trying not to.

catholics are the reason orthodoxy fell tho, youre not allowed to complain about istanbul when its only got that name now because of you retards

>>513551162
greeks were too proud to accept union. popes tried and tried again but the greeks always proudly turned them away. in their hour of need they begged us for aid and we sent it again and again, and in response we were treated like foreign barbarians and invaders by - once again - the greeks. It's a tragedy that it happened but once again the Greeks have no one to blame but themselves. Eventually some Greek churches did return to union with the church, and exist today as the Byzantine Rite.

>>513551085
Protestant is a very broad term. At the core it is: Sola Gratia, Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura. In short, you cannot make up your own doctrine or theology, because it is already there in the Holy Scripture, the Word of God.

Many mainline Protestant liberal churches simply aren't Protestant. Because they don't regard The Bible/The Gospel as the highest Authority. Martin Luther would reform them all over again.

Christniggers toungue my ass
Christniggers toungue my ass
Christniggers toungue my ass

>>513551651
Why? So they can once again slip into liberal theology as they splinter over and over and over? The problem is that the soil is bad; that's why the fruit is rotten.

>>513534374 (OP)
Kys christkike nigger

>>513551651
>In short, you cannot make up your own doctrine or theology
Unless you're a monk in the 1500s.

>>513534374 (OP)
A society doesn't need a foundational ethos.
It needs jolly cooperation in the spirit of the creation of wealth, material securities and happiness.
Not competition. Not conflict. Not a "here's why you exist" story rammed down your throat from some desert in the middle of satan's loins.
Yes there's a God, there's a shitload of Gods, Gods are those who do a lot of good.
Society does not need 1 specific narrative about 1 of those gods in order to exist, thrive or survive.
Especially when the narrative is man-made, deceptive, incoherent, inaccurate and often straight up false.
We are not born sinners, and God damns you for enforcing that rubbish on other people. You, any catholic protty orthy or kike, doesn't matter what denomination of "you must believe as I say or else" you enslave yourself to.

Also protties are not at fault for atheism.
Those who say they are Jewish but are not, are.
They're at fault for all the totalitarian oppression and the fear-driven obsession with mind control, for they defy Gods and seek to destroy Them.

>>513552134
>It needs jolly cooperation in the spirit of the creation of wealth, material securities and happiness.
that's just liberal secularism anon
we know how that ends

>>513534641
if you think this means "let your country become majority brown, then everyone suffers" thats on you mr spic

>>513551925
A good tree cannot produce a bad fruit, but a good tree must attend a true Church to produce good fruit. A church of good trees will stay true to the Gospel.

>>513552119
The great Martin Luther cleansed the Catholic Church with his Reformation. He Cleansed it with the Gospel. At that time, the Papacy treated the Church like it was a political institution. Look up buying indulgences.

>>513552467
No, it's the root of society even as far back as hunting-gathering tribes.
Liberal secularism is "I'm gonna do things my way and not any other way, and define my way as different from everyone else's".
That's why it's so satanic. It's not cooperative at all and often fueled by hatred or contempt of the world those people grew up in.

>>513552542
That's why Catholicism will never go anywhere while protestant faiths die off every year.
>>513553145
secular socialism isn't much better, anon. we're far off from the days of hunting and gathering.

>>513552542
I know all about the Catholic church and I do not endorse it.
But do you know how and what Christians believed during the first three centuries before either the pope or Constantine?
We have enough documentation to figure it out, and I can assure you; it's nothing like the reformation: No canon of scripture, low-rate of literacy, high esteem given to the eucharist, and teaching real presence just to name a few things.
There was no closet for the average illiterate layman to go pray in, the Church was a place of worship due to necessity because most of it was oral.
You ought to learn the history of your own faith, take Luther off his pedestal as if he wasn't the first among equals in making up his own doctrine and theology, and stop looking at the bible like a muslim looks at the koran.

>>513534374 (OP)
>Come back, White Man.

>>513534374 (OP)
Catholicism: let's just always waste all of our money the second we get it.

>>513553658
As possibly the biggest proponent of Catholicism on this board, I will agree with this and add a caveat to anyone listening that you should always wait for the second, "special" collection plate that goes only to the parish and its needs rather than the one that goes right to the Bishop.

>>513554186
Wierd. You should have tried arguing with me. I would have made the argument that saving money did not exist before protestantism.

All the circumcised hebrew speaking cattles hate Catholic. Because the catholic Church banned circumcision. Their power of subversive is nothing but worthless infront of the ONE True Church.

>>513553581
We have documentation; the Holy Bible, which is the Word of God. Every single word of it.

And don't misunderstand on purpose. The Bible is not the only Authority, but it is the only infallible Authority. Jesus gave the Apostles the authority of the prophets. OT = prophets. NT = apostles.

>>513554368
sure, I'll grant you that protestantism introduced usury to Europe ;)

>>513534374 (OP)
Fuck you, degenerate catholic. Protestants are the best the world has to offer. Go cheat on your wife or something, or whatever catholics do.

>>513554386
This ladyboy just can't stop thinking and talking about dicks lol

>>513555049
Go get another divorce, it doesn't matter if God predestined you for heaven or hell anyway ;)

>>513555289
Let's talk about GOD then. Name a stronger being than this Dragon.

https://youtu.be/oBnCrPaLWnQ?si=szbL1famU6hDfU2U

>>513534759
Nero really should have added more to his supposed gorillion (((Christian))) body count after those cunts burned down the city.

>>513555388
God, lol. What is your point

>>513555679
Might makes Right. Power is Absolute.

>>513534374 (OP)
Finally, a reasonable and decent spaniard on 4Chan, not only /pol/, but 4Chan in general

>>513534374 (OP)
Cause your entire mythos is unpalatable. Unless your are brainwashed into it from birth, no one actually believes in a bunch of retarded Jewish fairytales, let alone the subsequent fanfic, where one guy has main character syndrome and pretends to be the Jewish Messiah.
>"But society needs an ethos!"
Pick a better one then.

>>513555388
>name a stronger being than this dragon
All hail Glycon, the all powerful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=377Qjg0Fxog

>>513554534
We also have documentation in the bible itself of how the Holy Spirit guides the Church through apostolic succession:
1 Timothy 4, specifically 14, just to name one.
We have bible documentation rebuking faith only:
James 2:14-26
We have bible documentation rebuking scripture only:
John 5:39
Not that I consider bible quote mining that fruitful since it's meaningless without a holistic view in light of early Church tradition.
The bible is inspired, but if it's the only infallible authority, then how did it not come to be affirmed in any form before 382 AD, and not in the protestant form before the 1500s. And don't refer to St. Jerome; he believed nothing you do.
You wouldn't want to claim it's a fallible collection of infallible books.
And as a protestant why adhere to the Masoretic text rather than the Septuagint quoted by St. Paul?
Your Catholicity vs Protestantism is a false dichotomy to begin with.

>>513534374 (OP)
>/pol/ is one person
>I want to create the illusion that the post 2016 act blue china commie bots on /pol/ declaring these things unpopular are indeed unpopular
>i want to flood the board eith astroturfed topics no one actually believes in to divide Westerners

So which is it nigger? Are you a Foucaltist Critocal Theory rainbow faggot pedophile, a socialist/commie marx pedophile, or any islamomuhammedsteinberg thats wants to divide and conquer the West?
Which satanist pedophile are you working for?
I believe in one God, Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all ages; Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten, not created, of one essence with the Father through Whom all things were made. Who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary and became man. He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered and was buried; And He rose on the third day, according to the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father; And He will come again with glory to judge the living and dead. His kingdom shall have no end.

And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Creator of life, Who proceeds from the Father, Who together with the Father and the Son is worshipped and glorified, Who spoke through the prophets.

In one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church.

I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.

I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the age to come.

Amen.

All fields. Fake astroturf thread

>>513534374 (OP)
If it wasn't for Christians.. these larpagans wouldn't even know about 'muh ancestor'. Think about that for a second, Christian monks are the original marvel superhero writers before kikes came in an stole it. Like always.

>>513535383
I mean Christianity started in hellenised Judea

>>513536132
>>513535963
Your speaking to a jew. He knows all of that

Usually I tell otherwise, but you can come here

>>513534374 (OP)
The Russian orthodox church literally smiles upon murder by promoting war/ expansionism.

>>513554186
10% goes to the bishop. 90% to parish. Since I don't know when.

>>513555346
>consensual divorce is somehow worse than secretive cheating

catholics unironically believe this

>>513552521
Where it the Bible does it say to cast out immigrants?

>>513556108
>Your Catholicity vs Protestantism is a false dichotomy to begin with.

what dichotomy? I'm Lutheran so I belong to an Apostolic (catholic) church

>>513556387
What kind of retarded logic is this? Without the Jewish cult of Christianity, people would still be pagan.

>>513556911
I should've said Catholicism.
Catholicism vs Protestantism is a false dichotomy.

>>513534374 (OP)
Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, Cantate Domino, 1441, ex cathedra: The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.

You need to convert to the traditional Catholic faith.

>>513556913
>decide to check when he lived
>c. 680
>wtf is c
>where is BC or AD?
I hate this fucking shit, makes the atheists the most retarded. Paganism is cool tho.

>>513534374 (OP)
Christianity IS the downfall of the West. Christians worked hard to destroy any remnant of Western Civilization and they're still at it
>revealing you know nothing about Christian thought or history
As in Christian thought is denying facts? I don't disagree, religion is lies
>>513535383
>The constant "Christianity is a Jewish import to Europe" is 100% a psyop
Yeah, sure facts aren't real. Is Torah not Jewish? You fucking retard
Fuck off Jew worshipper
>>513536613
>proper capitalization is bad
Kill yourself

>>513556913
I you sure about that.. or is that just hypothetics? How can you claim something is true when the scenario never existed? touché faggot. Also your ancestors converted willingly, but thats an entirety different story. Only retards want to run around naked in the woods and constantly fight other tribes. There was no unity between pagans tribes.. your life expectancy along with your assholes would prolly be very slim if you went back in time and said 'Hello' to your ancestors. Stop worshipping a time and people who'd highly likely raid, steal, rape and throw you on a pyre after they're done having fun with your corpse.. it's stupid.

>>513556984
>1 Timothy 4:14

no issue there

>James 2:14-26

Look at the verses again. It talks about what kind of faith that produces works, not that works earn salvation by itself!

>John 5:39

doesn't negate the Authority of Scripture, but the interpretation of it away from Jesus Christ.

>>513556387
>Christians destroy European culture and tradition
>look at how Christians preserved cultural knowledge!
This is fucking retarded

>>513557709
You should probably research your people's history. You sound like a retard. Germanic people were actually more advanced in things like metallurgy and shipbuilding than the Christians in the south. They weren't barbarians running around naked in the woods.

>>513534466
Atheist come out of your mom basement. And he wasn't pedophile

>>513557980
Atleast you get to read Thor and Odin comic books thanks to Christian monks.. You should be thanking them.

>>513551468
Union with the pope? union with Satan's errant boy?
You're a muslim! Nostra Aetate and Lumen Gentium state it clearly.
Stop sucking muslim dicks and become Orthodox.
Have you no dignity?

Isn't Israel/Jews the model white civilization should replicate? A ethnic group with extremely strong ties to each other who own a state that is only run by people part of that ethnicity

>>513534759
Greek philosopher weren't paganistic themselves bruh. They believe in concept of one higher force or ultimate reality.
Socrates was blamed by greek to not being religious enough.

Roman actually didn't care they just copy and paste stuff. They even prayed to other God before conquering that region

>>513558054
My ancestors don't speak in runes, worship warlords called 'oden/thor' or worship trees, they were smarter than that.. perhaps why our lineage lives on because they saw the word and the word was good.

>>513536887
Your god raped women . And most of greek god are inbreed

>>513537591
I am half hindu brahmin from mother side. And you are wrong about most of the stuff.

>>513557791
The problem is that your interpretations rest on the presupposition that sola scriptura is true, when it is the thing in question itself.
For the illiterate early Church Christian from, say, 150 AD with nothing but the church's Septuagint and oral teachings of the local priest, how could we affirm sola scriptura to be the only infallible authority?

>>513558328
>My ancestors don't speak in runes, worship warlords called 'oden/thor'
Uh, yeah they did. Monks didn't even arrive in Denmark until like 700 years after Jesus supposedly died. Before then they worshiped the same gods as the Norse, Anglo-Saxons, and Germans.

>>513536212
>christian kalergians
>rootless bioleninist mongrels
>checks flag
Lol @ vinny the LARPagan dago here.
Fun fact: your buddy evola had to practice le sex magick because he was a retard and caught bomb shrapnel in his ass because he wanted to be some le svpreme a e s t h e t i c hero and walk out of the bomb shelter into a fucking air raid.

>>513536887
speaking about rape...

>>513557709
>raid, steal, rape
Stupid pagans are unaware that only migrants are allowed to do that sort of stuff consequence free.

>>513558054
>>513558683
>doesn't know how to spell Odin.
>doesn't know Danish history
He is either a bot, an immigrant or a VPN fag.

>>513534466
>Tells them to “eat his flesh and drink his haima” (if you think this means “blood” here, see Ezekiel 23:20)
why are you comparing what a greek text using a greek word means to a hebrew text using a hebrew word? Fucking retard
also the fact that you keep calling him 'Jesus Christ' like Christ is actually his last name further reveals your ignorance and linguistic retardation. 'Christ' is a title that means 'anointed' the greek word used instead of messiah/masiach which means the same thing; jews in this time period didn't have family names just singular names and associated place names or who they are the son/daughter of 'X of Y location' 'X son of Z'
nobody called him 'Jesus Christ' when he was actually alive back then because it doesn't make sense but retarded protestant angloids didn't realise this and turned it into a colloquial name, which is why you yanks all say 'Jesus Christ' like it's a name because you are all protestant retards and dumb as fuck. You have no idea what you are talking about.

>Tells these boys he will make them “fishers of men”
because they are literally fishermen and it's obviously a figure of speech bout recruiting followers you dishonest fuck
>Goes into upper rooms and washes their feet while naked
he and they are not naked here and it is a singular event that happens that the disciples themselves are shocked by and remark on that he shouldn't do this because he is their rabbi and why he doing it is explained in the text. You haven't even read it and are just making shit up and repeating these points like a parrot retard
>Is arrested in a public park at 4am with a naked boy (see Mark 14:51-52)
it doesn't say the boy is naked you lying fuck

you're just plainly fucking lying about what λῃστὴν means, see picrel. It's about him being treated like a leader of insurgent bandits not whatever degenerate fantasy bullshit you've hallucinated.

>>513558683
>Before then they worshiped the same gods as the Norse, Anglo-Saxons, and Germans.
This is a misconception.. prove to me that paganism was organized and it wasn't warring and stealing from other tribes all the time. Why would Danish vikings attack their pagan saxon brothers?.. as i said, you fags should be happy Christianity came along, because if you got it your way.. your life expectancy as i said before would be really slim and we wouldn't have all this cool stuff around us like technology, firearms and nuclear fusion. We got to this point in history, because we stopped your silly raiding games.. embraced the words of Jesus Christ and everything changed and progress went up 1000%. You can't prove otherwise as it wouldn't be more than a theory and not based on facts or reality.

>>513534374 (OP)
>Protestants cannot participate in this thread. It's your fault for the atheism and degenerate liberalism
Protestants are closest to the Bible, you and your pope son of perdition is what's wrong with Christianity. Pretty much all of the confusion regarding the Bible is because of your Roman mother of harlots and its Jesuit priests. This institution does everything wrong, deliberately, quite literally against what is plainly written. You just like to blame it all on "Protestants", whatever that even is in your mind, since that is a variety of congregations, literally everyone who is not in the Roman mother of harlots and abominations of the earth.
Protestants at least try to follow the Bible as best as they can, Romans just outright IGNORE the word of God and worship whatever and however the Roman priesthood tells them to do. That is not Christian.

Also, the reason why Catholics know anything at all about the Bible is because of Protestants that exalted the word of God for the last 500 years, otherwise you wouldn't even know anything about the Word. Rome never changes, it only changes when it's forced to change by the power of the Word.

Despite all the wrongs in the "Protestant" congregations, it is still you that is lacking behind and worship a whole variety of paganistic Roman concepts and idols. You think having splendid ornaments means that you are "more Christian", I have no words for that, clearly you are Roman pagans more than you are Christians in the Holy Spirit.

>>513558999
I never even attempted to spell Odin's name, retard. And every thing there is a fact. Monks didn't start arriving in Denmark until the 8th and 9th centuries. Before then that worshiped the same Germanic gods as all the other Germanic people.

>>513554731
The catholic church extracting money from everyone is usury.

>>513558083
>oy vey goyim you should thank us for not completely destroying your culture
Fuck off
And this "haha Thor is comic book character" shit is stupid. How do you think that's a bad thing? Comic books are cool, superheroes are fun, the fact characters like Thor, Hercules, and Ares can be put into a modern setting and still be great is not a negative thing. It shows the timelessness of strength and heroism. The fact Jewsus is such a boring do nothing character he couldn't work as a comic book character is the negative. His abilities put him squarely in "X-Man everybody forgets about" tier

>>513534466
>your brain on Stavrakopoulou's menstrual secretions.

>>513559232
>Before then that worshiped the same Germanic gods as all the other Germanic people.
You'd prolly get raped by the warlord of the tribe 30 clicks to the north of you and your entire village and tribe destroyed, subjected to slavery.
>YAAY!! PAGANLIFE IS SO FUN! ACTING LIKE A NIGGER IS SO FUUN!!
Fix yourself faggots.

>>513534374 (OP)
We are the misbegotten children of a future betrayed.
All your doctrines are antiquated rot.
They ill served the men who wrote them.

>>513534466
The traditional response to this sort of person, is to smash their head in with a rock, and make their entire family into cagots.

>>513559337
>Comic books are cool, superheroes are fun
most DC/Marvel comic books are allegories for homosexuals. Especially the x-men series.

>>513559232
He meant the person you were responding to is not a real Dane

>>513559481
Somebody has read Seduction of the Innocent

>>513535993
Aristotle demanded observation and induction. Jewstianity does not. Most of his works were preserved in Byzantium but destroyed in the West as problematic for demanding post priori rationalization

>>513559337
Jesus is the most powerful superhero.. even more powerful than superman or batman. Also, grow up faggot.. comic books for are kids.

>>513558655
"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness" - 2 Timothy 3:16

Only direct statements from the Scripture is the Word of God, regardless if it is the year 150 or 2025.

>>513558263
Pure ignorance. Violating religious law in the late republic often meant death or exile. Get drone striked

>>513559811
>Also, grow up faggot.. comic books for are kids.

>>513559232
I meant the Danish guy is fake, not you. I think you are right, the first Danish king to accept Christianity was Harald Bluetooth from what I know. That was in the 10th century.

>>513559463
>You'd prolly get raped by the warlord of the tribe 30 clicks to the north of you and your entire village and tribe destroyed, subjected to slavery.
Like the little girls God commanded as spoils from killing everyone else, including little boys

>>513558893
Cope pedo

>>513538641
>Abrhamics
Good moring saar

>>513539148
>>513559948
>kikes try to make money off of Jesus
More news at 11

>>513559948
>The white image and likeness of Christ stolen and abused by the kikes as usual.
Nice proof. The bible existed way before your marvel stories about thor and odin were ever released.

>>513560266
Grow up faggot, fsirytales are for kids

>>513559882
That would be to say that the word of God was nonexistent during the time before the canon of scripture for the New Testament was affirmed and especially before said books were written.
The Septuagint alone would clearly not be sufficient for Christian teaching.

>>513560470
You are not an adult. You are an idiot.

>>513560226
>>kikes try to make money off of Jesus
>More news at 11

>>513560555
I'm not interested in ladyboys, sorry

>>513534374 (OP)
The functional argument for religion retarded. Just because it might have a great effect on society doesn't make it true. And if most people figure out it's not true, they're never going to have the same adherence to the religion. Especially if they stop believing in heaven and hell. And if you try to desperately keep 21st century people following a 1000+ year old religion, you are going to have to apply so much censorship, logical horrors, punishment and authoritarianism, that you will end up like the shitholes in the Middle East producing nothing but primitive bomb apes and Memri TV memes. Yeah, we might be fucked without religion, at least for some time to come, but you can't force people to believe that a guy caught 2 of every animal or that a guy who fucked a 9 year old is a perfect example for all of humanity. And I don't think anything powerful enough to replace religion will be found, so we are probably just doomed to a godless immoral future. Try finding something that provides guidance for nearly all of life's aspects with the stick of eternal suffering or the carrot of eternal bliss, good luck. Even if you did, it probably wouldn't be pretty. Basically we are fucked and religionfags are coping.

>>513560470
>fairytales are for kids
Yes. Hence why you should stop worshipping the characters in your comic book.

>>513560549
>That would be to say that the word of God was nonexistent during the time before the canon of scripture for the New Testament was affirmed and especially before said books were written.

No.

>>513534374 (OP)
>Protestants cannot participate in this thread.
Enjoy arguing with everyone, bye.

>>513560692
You are fucking stupid.

>>513560809
How so?

>>513534374 (OP)
Mira. Que a día de hoy ni Cristo cree en Dios y la cosa solo va a más.
Si te sabes la parábola de la higuera el cristianismo está en la misma situación ni puede dar fruto ni es la época de ello.
La iglesia al final está para captar dinero de redes clientelares y actuar cómo una ONG.
Lo último que te puedes esperar de ella es la salvación política y menos aún a nivel internacional

>>513534374 (OP)
Ancient Greece and Rome were pagan, they weren't based on Christianity or Judaism or whatever, and they were super powerful and successful
I have a midwit's knowledge of history though, so idk all the details

>>513534374 (OP)
Catholics pretty much do the same shit as jews. Lutherans are cool. And the snake handlers, provided they hate kikes.

>>513560838
>You are fucking stupid

>>513558083
Yes better than Jew tramp atories

>>513558901
Based foid destroyer

>>513561012
The stupid retard who know nothing but to mock. Your life is a fucking joke.

>>513560801
I don't worship anything bud. Sucks to be you though

>>513559811
>comic books are for kids
I am so glad my parents thought like this on comics and video games.

>>513561245
>The stupid retard who know nothing but to mock. Your life is a fucking joke.

>>513561268
It sucks to be you. Worthless shit.

>>513561105
>Has gay porn on his pc
Why am i not surprised.. i mean you are a larpagan. Explain this, it's from one of your pagan holy books.

>>513561347
Yeah, yeah. Keep being obsessed with those degenerate picture.

>Jerking off to porn is the same as committing adultery, lolicon? Yup, you just raped a kid!
>Being angry at someone is the same as killing them
I just gave you the primary reasons why 99% of the people who use this website have a problem with Christianity.

>>513561319
part 2, trust me it will end with God

>>513561105
Would love to turn out some BC pussy and betroth all over her face.

>>513534374 (OP)
>the downfall of the west.
Don't pretend you had no fucking part of it when you spent the last 1500+ years simping for, defending, and enriching jews

>>513561353
>It sucks to be you. Worthless shit.

>>513561268
>I don't worship anything bud
So you're a hindu buddist?

>>513561444
trips

>>513534374 (OP)
Tell that to your brown shitskin priest glowie

>>513561434
>Yeah, yeah. Keep being obsessed with those degenerate picture

>>513561503
only two more

>>513561496
Nope :^)

>>513561604
And as promised the part where God is mentioned

>>513561539
This guy has a shit tons of degenerate picture. None of his fruit look good. Just another telling of judge the tree by its fruit.

You cross faggots should have left the "new world" alone.
The Aztecs were policing the place very well till you abrahamics showed up.

>>513535383
Perlas ante cerdos pero continua hablando yo estoy leyendo.

>>513539048
Filtering them from being cattle

>>513561673
>This guy has a shit tons of degenerate picture. None of his fruit look good. Just another telling of judge the tree by its fruit.

>>513534374 (OP)

I fully support the old Catholic and Orthodox Churches from like 600 years ago. They're dead and gone and have almost nothing in common with their modern day counterparts.

>>513534374 (OP)
I don't hate the Catholics and Orthodox. I just think they're wrong. The problem is that they each claim utter exclusivity to the title of "Christ's one true church" when that simply isn't true for either of them. The church as described by Christ was referring to St. Peters confession, not a particular hierarchy. The one holy universal apostolic church that Christ founded is comprised of the entire body of good and faithful followers of Christ, not a particular worldly hierarchy. Apostolic succession is all well and good, but it's worthless if the pure gospel is not being taught.

Also here have a trvth nvke.

>>513561761
Proving me right. That's what you do best. Staring at ugly shit.

Bet you are a sodomite.

>>513536132
Jews want and don't want, as long as you remain goy

>>513561442
That's a position unique to evangelicals who are a bunch of pussywhipped cuckolds.
I've never seen another church which claims to be christian saying anything like that at all

>>513534374 (OP)
I'm sorry, but the world after the Spanish Golden Age was built by Calvinists.
Calvinists are Israelites.

>>513561830
>Proving me right. That's what you do best. Staring at ugly shit.
>Bet you are a sodomite.

>>513534466
Bot post

>>513561925
Ugly as sins. The fruit of your spirit is rotten. All anti-christs will go to Hell.

513561969
>Ugly as sins. The fruit of your spirit is rotten. All anti-christs will go to Hell.

>>513558444
So did Pedohammed

>>513561969
What even is a sin
All Christcucks talk about sin all day but what is a sin?
Can christcuck tell us ?

>>513561925
They all look demonic

>>513561892
>Calvinism
Imagine having a church and calling it the chuch of the baldies.
Wouldn't be me

>>513561442
Nah, its a niche group of fags who imitate the O9A and other homosexual satanic cults. Their founder David Wulstan Myat or 'Abdulaziz ibn Myatt al-Qari' is a Hadji who have fought alongside h, literally believes in allah. their claim to be "right wing" but they're infact leftists, they use tarot cards and crystals.. believe all kinds of nonsense.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/from-traitor-to-zealot/fighting-on-the-path-of-allah/DCBEA7B34DB0E5454118F4858035A163

>>513562046
You liked it. You saved it. You posted it.
This is what you are. God truly gave you over to the reprobate mind.

>>513539185
Saul the Jew

>>513557709
>willing
Christcucks lost the Northern crusade and had to resort to bribery and treason to enforce Jewsus on whites

>>513562067
Ugliness. Unclean. Ungodliness. Rotten.

>>513558328
They worship Jews and Jew lovers like John Chrystotom

>>513562232
And what is that?
Can you define or you need some brown shitskin nigger priest to tell you what it is?

>>513562204
he too but I was thinking about the first pope, (((Petrus))) for the goyim aka Shimon Bar Yonah

>>513562097
>Imagine having a church and calling it the universal chuch.
>Wouldn't be me

>>513562067
>What even is a sin
That is for you to find.

>>513562327
The opposite of Manah.

https://youtu.be/g251l_Srsdk?si=iJ7F0T4GU7fV8R_h

>>513560226
Christkikes are as brown as Jeets

513562177
>You liked it. You saved it. You posted it.
>This is what you are. God truly gave you over to the reprobate mind.

>>513562398
Why I thought priests and christcucks are supposed to tell the gospel. Seems like christcuckery is all a fairytale

>>513558999
definitely VPN, that brown christianzee monkey is like the most stereotypical groyper you could possibly conjure, the language he uses gives him away

>>513534374 (OP)
Nigger

>>513562493
I'm not a priest.

>>513562421
So the opposite of a fairytale.
I see
10000 iq chriscuck logic

>>513534466
Arrrr, that be based, me lad!

>>513562444
Your soul is fucking rotten.

>>513538689
>>513540190

>>513562593
Protestant teaching says everyone is a priest

>>513562621
You have low IQ.

>>513534374 (OP)
>Also, Protestants cannot participate in this thread. It's your fault for the atheism and degenerate liberalism.
This is the gayest cope. If Protestantism is responsible for atheism/liberalism then Catholicism is responsible for Protestantism, since Protestantism came directly from Catholicism. This makes Catholicism also responsible for atheism/liberalism by the way. If Catholicism were so perfect then Protestantism never would have come out of it and taken over so much of the Catholic world, nor would that post-Catholic world now be atheistic and liberal.

>>513562624
>Your soul is fucking rotten.

>>513561654
I like comics, too.

>>513562677
Everyone is a saint, not everybody is a priest. The only thing laymen can do is baptize and administer communion in situations where an actual priest is not available such as battlefields, remote areas, or other extenuating circumstances.

>>513562677
I'm not a protestant either, go read your bible kid.. it'll do you good.

>>513562706
Circumcised cattle.

>>513561421
>Mary was a man
I know you can't read christcuck but damn that's some blasphemy!

>>513562678
Yea for not believing some invisible god raped some random kike woman to give birth to himself so god can proceed to pray to himself and then kill himself for himself.
Yeah I am the one with low IQ clearly

All anti-christs will go to Hell.

>>513561421
>quotes Jew
Good sheep (goy cattle)

>>513534461
>Orthodox and Catholics are cucks
I think I understand what he meant by this... reasoning with heretics and apostates is pointless, they should be burned at the stake.

>>513562973
Yeah, you can never beat me in chess. You have never seen God. You are a garbage humans who have committed sins. You are rotten.

>>513562839
Catholics and orthodox are not supposed to read the bible lmao
Retard spotted
You are clearly not Danish
Stupid shitskin nigger

>>513534374 (OP)
I am not anti christian. But christianity has failed in the fight against progressivism and liberalism. It is what it is.

>>513562894
Men can't have children faggot.. you should know this by know. God made only two genders. One being the seed, and the other the bearer of the seed. Mary happend to be a bearer of the seed that is Jesus Christ.. your Lord and saviour, the one your ancestors willingly converted to. Isn't it beautiful, you're here today because of Jesus Christ.. show some appreciation and gratitude.

>>513562841
>still thinking about dicks
Ladyboy fag

>>513563047
>you can never beat me in chess
White pawn to e4

Watch this faggot ladyboy breakdown even more

>There is none who are righteous, not one.
>YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS IS LIKE FILTHY, ROTTEN, STINKING MENSTRUAL RAGS
Better never forget it. Any of you. Stop boasting.>>513562977

>>513563066
>Catholics and orthodox are not supposed to read the bible lmao
You can't be this dumb.. what are we suppose to read, the quran?

>>513563175
You are a filthy faggot, and a sore loser. Low-tier retard. I will never play you because you stink like rotten garbage.

>>513562832
1 Peter 2:4-5, 9
"As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but in the sight of God chosen and precious, you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. ... But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light."

>>513561773
I never understood Old Catholics or Sedes. You claim that the ecumenical councils are infallible, yet you reject Vatican II? Love it or hate it, Vatican II was an ecumenical council on par with authority to Trent, Nicea, and others. Either you accept the authority of Vatican II, or you become Protestant. I don't understand the logic of an in-between, and I don't think it's a real position in the long run.

>>513563224
Ok so you agree you are not Danish and you are some nigger shitskin
1000 years of illiteracy in Catholic and orthodox countries doesn't tell you anything ?
You are supposed to go and listen to some brown nigger shitskin priest reading the bible to you cuz he is the only one im power to tell you what is right or wrong and in a way "heresy" doesn't start.
You clearly are not even orthodox ot Catholic
Just some Hindu jeet

>>513563328
Correct, all of it, but traditionally this points to the doctrine of the invisible church more than universal priesthood. We have always recognized that all good believers are capable of acting as priests (again, baptisms and communion can be delivered by anyone in a pinch) but certain people among us are more suited for the task than others. There have always been ordained priests.

>>513563395
>you are some nigger shitskin
Says the gypsy and his family who has to roam the world like the wandering jew.
>You clearly are not even orthodox ot Catholic
Good thing i don't take advice from brown roma gypsies with turkish ancestry.

>>513563074
two more weeks and the global coalition of brown hominids from africa and sudaca is going to turn into 1488 SS legions that will preserve EVROPA from their dysgenic DNA, just like they preserved south America from becoming the biggest cloaca gentium of history

>>513562832
>not everybody is a priest
Pete disagrees, and says to all Christians:
“As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but in the sight of God chosen and precious, you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.”
1 Peter 2:4-5

>>513563600
>We have always recognized that all good believers are capable of acting as priests (again, baptisms and communion can be delivered by anyone in a pinch)
That's not what Peter is referring to at all. It says we are priests because we "offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ."

>>513563074
This is a common thought I see on /pol/ a lot. My only response to this is that we are not Christian because we think being Christians will change the world into one we would like to see. That is purely incidental. We are Christians because we love God and wish to be with Him forever. People who are Christian because they think it's "based" and "trad" are just LARPing.

>>513563626
Kys jeet

>>513563074
How can something that has been progressive despite other religions trying to actively subjugate it fail to a self-destructive cult like progressivism and marxism?.. the progressives are some of the people who have the highest suicide rates, meanwhile Christians are the ones that has the least as suicide and self-violence is a pretty big sin.

>>513563802
And again, that is correct, but there has always been a vocation or caste of wise men inside of Christianity who's specialty is understanding and administering God's word and preaching the gospel. This has always been the case.

>>513563677
>Europe is Christian
>Europe spreads Christianity to thirdies
>Europe stops being Christian due to Jewish subversion
>Thirdies remain Christian
>Thirdie population explodes
>"wow thirdie religion"

Tiresome.

>>513563832
Oh no you got me.. shit. Dude, you're gonna have to dish up with something better than that. Stop being jealous of my white skin and my birthplace you inbred wagon pusher.

>>513563925
What even is a sin jeet
Can you even define what a sin is
The only sin that I know is you being born and not being aborted
And shitskin being alive

>>513563175
>Watch this faggot ladyboy breakdown even more
>>513563310

>>513564003
>white
>isn't even Danish
???

>>513564001
the truth hurts doesn't it Pedro Suarez McGoldberg? this coalition of monkeys like you as it exists is going to racially save EVROPA right?

>>513534374 (OP)
>>513534461
>>513534466
>>513535963
>>513536309
/pol/ is being brigaded right now. posts like this and all these posts fanboying for gavin newsom of all faggots only because he has white kids. nick fuentes' rhetoric went on the rise, talk about ghislaine and epstein has also been on the rise, so ((they)) need to sow discord and drown it out.

>>513564092
Same old tired meme. Like a broken record. Sore loser.

>>513564067
>What even is a sin
It's when you have sex with your sister or put your penis in another man. This is why you have Christianty, just be honest. Two good examples of a sin. Also, why don't you go borrow your gypsy grandmas crystal ball for a handy dandy second, i'm sure it'll tell you.

>>513564000
Yes, and those people are called "presbyters" (elders) in the NT. The term "priest" is not used for them, outside of how it is used to refer to all Christians. A priest performs sacrifices, and a presbyter does not perform any sacrifices other than the spiritual ones that all Christians perform.

>>513563925
The church has not only failed, it has in many cases become part of the same system that is trying to destroy us. I am interested in the survival of Europeans, and as it stands I don’t realistically see how the church can help us. I don’t care about weather Africans use contraceptives or not. Most christians are in fact progressive npc’s, they will not be forming crusader orders. I wish they would, but it will not happen, the church is not the same as it once was.

>>513564257
So you want shitskins to exist?
Christianity is against racism and you seem to hate abortion
So you like shitskins
At least gays don't reproduce
Retards like you and your shitskin families do

>>513564257
>don't fuck with your sister
Lmao where in Bible says that?
Ironically the first humans according to bible fucked their sisters

>>513564286
Ah, a Presbyterian. Never met a Presbyterian I didn't like.

In any case, I don't think you're wrong. We don't use the term priest either, but in the context it's a useful term. We have opted to keep the priesthood a bit more closed off, as has been traditionally done, but your kind have always raised valid arguments.

>>513564354
>I am interested in the survival of Europeans
Europe will still stand way after you and your kids are dead and gone.. don't you worry one bit. You speak out of fear, i can't really deal with people like that.. i'm not worried, because i know they've tried before and they've lost every single time. Thanks to the Lord that brought us together so we could defend OUR LANDS.

>>513564397
I don't need your shit soul in my Heaven.

>>513563787
There's no reason to change the structure. Yes, every believer is motivated to be knowledgeable of scripture, to spread the gospel, to keep the commandments, and to be a light unto the world. But, ordaining ministers is very important, too. These are the teachers that specialize solely in guiding other Christians and it's their sole profession. They administer sacraments, teach the word, settle disputes, and listen to the problems of their congregations. If everyone were ordained there would be no flock! The ordained and unordained are all children of God, and have a personal relationship with God through Christ. Ordainment is due to necessity.

Titus 1:5-9 (KJV) For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:
If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;
But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate;
Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.

>>513564627
Thanks I don't be around kikes

>>513564566
I am not afraid. I am simply looking at the situation as it is. If the church was or became trad etc… I would become very happy, and I respect your spiritual beliefs. But I am skeptical of how christianity can get us out of this crisis.

>>513564397
>So you want shitskins to exist?
No, honestly i'd much prefer it if you just fucked back off to plebbit where i know you came from. This is a Christian board and if you're not willing to participate then you can fuck right off. Also, learn how to actually type like a White person if you're gonna pretend to be one.

>>513564715
That kid should have been killed. You talked about abortion. Why do you have problem with killing that kidm

>>513564675
elders =\ priest
there are no priests in the new testament scripture, except to refer to all believers, all whose sins are covered in the blood of Jesus and baptized in faith.

>>513563012
lol mutt, dontchaknow that rodnovery were "revived" during communist time as a secret meeting place for "alternative" (((lgbt))) lifestyle people? omegakek

>>513564889
Where I said I had problems with thay kid being killed
You don't even know his name lol
Jesus wouldn't exist without that killed being alive retard lmao
Kys

>>513565015
God will always exist. Your circumcised can only see your own existence. Not times eternal.

You are a retard.

>>513564747
Christianty has organized in defense of Europe a multitude of times, what makes you think that has changed.. if the call to action came, do you only competent Christians would go in defense of our lands.. no, we'd highly likely come together as we did before. I'm sure many unbaptized people went on crusades or defended the walls at vienna and became Christians after. You shouldn't worry friend, this is what Jesus teaches us.. fear and doubt is of the devil.

All anti-christs will go to Hell.

>>513563175
>Watch this faggot ladyboy breakdown even more
>>513564249

>>513565111
I think your spirit is in the right place, we will all to have to fight in the end. Take care.

>>513565241
Learn to be a true christcuck fag

>>513563012
Keep coping and thinking odin didn't eat dongs like a $10 hooker.

>>513565309
>>513565359
Your first circle of Hell is to come here,
and be reminded that you are a circumcised cattle. By me.

You will take all my bad energy, you will eat it, and you will get cancer and die. Then go to Hell

>>513565430
>Yes yes let me watch my gf get fucked while a type this because I am chritcuck

>>513565352
>I think your spirit is in the right place, we will all to have to fight in the end. Take care.
Isn't that the truth no matter who you follow or worship, life is a fight.. not everyone gets it right we should be happy for the things we have, because someday they might not be here anymore. Likewise, take care and godaften ven.

>>513563175
>Watch this faggot ladyboy breakdown even more
>>513565430

>>513565651
I'm a virgin, I never get cucked. I belong only to God.