Thread 513535934

Is the draft in violation of free will?

There's no such thing as free will.

>>513535934 (OP)
>free will
Nope. Not allowed here.

>>513535934 (OP)
tis

>>513535934 (OP)
what part of that guy looks "free" to you?
the "draft" is the last desperate measure of an unpopular regime nobody is willing to die for

>>513536003
there is

I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
- Deuteronomy 30:19

Deuteronomy 30:19

>>513535934 (OP)
yes
unless the politicians are also drafted

>>513536134
>jew fairy tale book
lmao

>>513536003
>>513536134

forgot link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LARwRprrcL4

>>513536003
>>513535934 (OP)
FREE WILL IS A MYTH
RELIGION IS A JOKE

>>513536173
Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
- Titus 1:14

The first time the word jew is even mentioned is in 2. Kings 16, so pretty late in the bible.
The bible literally warns of what you call jewish fairy tales

>>513535934 (OP)
No being kidnapped to kill for someone else is totally moral.

>>513535934 (OP)
how come these pictures never appear in the western news? not interesting?

>>513535934 (OP)
he's now in piggy heaven

>>513536003
>making choices is not free will
you faggots are legitimately insufferable. constantly moving the goalposts until your opponent gets tired of debating. you don't have to reply to this and I want your simplistic little mind to wrestle with that thought while you regurgitate the talking points of bad actors

>>513536336
Free will perhaps.

>>513535934 (OP)
Yes if you are forced to fight for a jew just like in Ukraine.

>>513535934 (OP)
>>513536003

>>513535934 (OP)
That's not a draft, that's a press gang.

>>513536003
FPBP Christcucks go to hell!!!

>>513536176
Believe = be lie with
The truth ( that will sett you free ) does not require to believe or imagine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZgivA2ENvY

https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1755618759966900.mp4

https://youtu.be/0FLJVJk8KPc

>>513535934 (OP)
yeah it is slavery and the US Supreme Court uphold this view. it is why you are only legally summoned to the draft office which is punishable for non-compliance and then once there, you 'voluntary' cross over a yellow line on the floor and sign up for the force. they trick you.

>>513535934 (OP)
yes which is why i can’t be drafted. god wouldn’t allow it

>>513535934 (OP)
Greek word 'democracy' - people rule by popular peoples congress, in reality it just collection of tools that helps ruling group to maintain their power.

Pigs feed the dogs that enforce the rules, written by pugs. That system is all over the world over different labels.

>>513536841
Crazy that this Boomer myth has persisted for so long.

>>513535934 (OP)
It's unironically worse than slavery. At least slaves didn't get sent to their deaths.

>>513536841
>yeah it is slavery and the US Supreme Court uphold this view

Ive read the opposite.

>yellow line

Have you heard of draftees seeking deferments?

>>513536003
free will is what you procure of it.

>>513536336
This can happen in the west in the future, that's why they don't want to warn the future conscripts about what they are going to become

>>513537177
Slavery in the US was a blessing for blacks. Instead of being subjected to hunting and gathering, starvation, and constant violence (the chance of a violent death in 18th century West Africa was around 50%), blacks were given a steady life of work, community, and safety. They would never be targeted by violent savages for war, never suffer from starvation, never have to worry about herd movement or food scarcity… Niggers are so god damn ungrateful.

>>513535934 (OP)
Given that the United States was fought for, founded and established by an entirely volunteer force against a professional conscript force we can rather safely conclude that the draft is only necessary when the goal of the war is against the interest of the ones fighting it and thus against the very core of the republic.

It should be noted that in the same vein, the more a US war was in the interest of jews the more it also came with sweeping applications of a draft to which the constitution made no provision as Webster pointed out in 1814. E.g. the first wide spread conscription that happened during the US civil war happened on the confederate side under a jewish supremacist secretary of war and member of B'nai B'rith, casuing widespread riots among the gentiles.

>>513535934 (OP)
It is. It's a grave human right violation.

But remember that most societies of Eastern Europe are derivatives of serfdom (glorified slavery) so people do not actually protest it.

WW2 was won by Stalin by dragging people from their homes

>>513536940
You will never be a woman, but that won’t stop you from getting raped like one

>>513535934 (OP)
It's a violation of life.
How can someone tell you that you that you have to give up the most important thing you have, your health and life, completely against your will.

It's disgusting human behaviour. Politicians thinking other humans lives are disposable, but when it's their turn, noooo, their life is too precious and there have to be alternatives, time for peace talks.
Fucking disgusting. I hate people, I hate humans. Only a very small minority are reasonable and can actually look beyond themselves.

Anyone who does something like this will burn in hell if such place exists.

if you need to forcibly draft people to fight for you, then you don't deserve to be waging whatever war you currently are.

>>513538300
id easily kill you faggot. all rapist deserve to be tortured to death. i’ll remove 1. inch of your legs per day until you die while you’re tied to a gurney

>>513535934 (OP)
Remember that these draft cunts operate by a very simple logic: You go and die, not me.
They are willing to do the dirty work of condemning other people to death as long as they themselves don't have to fight.

They take the position in the first place to operate a racket and take bribes from desperate people not willing to go to a war.
What would you give up if they showed up to your door and offered you a deal?

Ukraine's President Zelensky brought this war upon the good people of Ukraine. Zelensky should be remembered as one of , if not the most, ruinous traitor to his nation in human history.
Zelensky campaigned on building good relations with Russia. The Ukrainian people wanted to have good relations with Russia.
There is no reason Ukraine could not have facilitated trade between Western Europe and Russia. Vladimir Putin wanted to build an economic zone that extended from Spain through western Europe to China and southeast Asia. This Euro Asian trade bloc threatened the current Anglo American centered trading bloc that Europe now suffers under. This is why those that control the Anglo American economic trade zone always work toward the destruction of Russia and chose Ukraine as their hammer. This is why the people that control the Anglo American economic trade zone installed the homosexual jewish actor Zelensky.Unfortunately, for the people of Ukraine, Russian mettle is proving stronger than the hammer NATO chose to attack Russia with. Ukraine will be discarded and forgotten as soon as it is no longer useful to the global homo demons.
Zelensky had the Ukrainian army treat the people of the Luhansk and Donbass regions so poorly that they formed militias to defend themselves.
After the Russian populations of the Luhansk and Donbass regions signed mutual security agreements with Russia Zelensky ordered the Ukrainian army to continue artillery shelling of these populations.
Zelensky was promised by western leadershe would be a historic heroic figure if he defeated the Russians in a war.
This war is so tragic in itself. Even more so when you consider that Ukraine could have been a lynch pin in an economic trade zone that extended from Portugal/ Spain through France and Germany all the way to China and the southeast Asian countries.

"You fucked up. You trusted us."
-Biden Administration US Secretary of State Antony Blinken

someone's got die for ursula von der leyen. so off to the front you go mr. ivanchuk.

>>513536280
ok so wht to do about the illiteracy problem in the christian community then ?
would that make teaching christians the ability to read an act of antismeitism ?

>>513537547
Judah Benjamin wasn’t a member of B’nai B’rith and did t take part in any Jewish organizations.

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there, in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door, and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose, and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? … The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If. … If. … We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more - we had no awareness of the real situation. … We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago

>>513535934 (OP)
it is not a violation but obviously it does go against your free will but it is a required duty of all free men. without it you will have no freedom at all. it doesnt matter if the reason for the war is retarded, when are called to fight you fight. it doesnt matter if the call on the battlefield is retarded, you follow orders. hard to wrap your head around as an autistic teenager but just realize there are very few nations in history who can call themselves truly free and this is the only way anyone has ever achieved such freedom.

>>513538451
>thinking other humans lives are disposable, but when it's their turn, noooo, their life is too precious and there have to be alternatives, time for peace talks
I heard that in medieval times lords fought over land and used peasants to settle who should have what. As if playing with their lives was some sort of game. I guess that's when proxy wars first started.

>>513536336
because they're fake, if you are white parent rejoice, you will never have to live in fear of your son being dragged away by press gangs

>>513540249
>it doesnt matter if the reason for the war is retarded
It does matter

>>513536076
>what part of that guy looks "free" to you?
>the "draft" is the last desperate measure of an unpopular regime nobody is willing to die for
Indeed

>>513538949
>id easily kill you faggot
so kill yourself schizophrenic transvestite

>>513540564
lords and their sons fought beside their men in england and scotland. im assuming germany was the same. sometimes their heir would sit out when the situation was bleak.

>>513540249
their duty is literally just to die
they are not given guns until they are on the front line, they are not going to be skilled enough to shoot drones down, and loyalists will prevent them from running away
their kidnappers can lie however they want but the conscript's duty in this war is simply to die; you wouldn't be saying these things if it happened to you

>>513540702
sorry i meant it doesnt matter if YOU THINK it is retarded.

>>513535934 (OP)
yes the state is very dangerous and bad

>>513540850
oh i see, YOU THINK it's based that people are being forced to die as meatshields for jews yes, that's why you are defending it and saying it's the duty of the victims. biased fuck

>>513540850
>sorry i meant it doesnt matter if YOU THINK it is retarded.
You should be loaded into a cannon and fired into the ocean with the heads of dead draftees tied around your neck.

>>513540819
if that is what has been order then it is the best method they have, it is doubtful that is what is actually happening though.

>>513540960
doessnt matter what anyone thinks except the order that came from the top of the chain of command. nobody else knows enough to make a judgement. you are here at the very bottom trying to judge based on which sides propaganda sways you the most.

>>513536353
So what is Russian heaven like? Do you guys get to fuck each other in the ass all the time?

>>513541301
no, that is what happens to draft dodgers. most draft dodgers dont have the balls to even dodge the draft. you couldnt even resist the vax.

>>513541312
>i blindly obey authority, they are the ones who know what's best for us in the end
yes just like how they know how it's best not to intervene in myanmar, all the wars currently happening around the world are secretly being micromanaged as part of a big benevolent plan and we should just let ourselves die for it instead of having questions
are you underage?
>>513541481
i didn't get vaxxed btw

>>513535934 (OP)
Of course it is.
The state has no claim over your life.
There is also no obligation for any state to exist at any cost.
If nobody wants to voluntarily defend it, then it has no right to exist.

>>513536269
WE ARE ALL PAWNS CONTROLLED BY SOMETHING GREATER: MEMES

>>513541855
>If nobody wants to voluntarily defend it, then it has no right to exist.
This right here is supposed to be the last bastion against corruption. Selective inaction is most peaceful way to protest. If they start trying to clamp down on peaceful dissent you know they're desperate.

>>513540712
no

>>513541481
Shouldn't you be in prison for posting here? Seeing as the UK has two tier keir as prime minister. Unless you're using a VPN.

>>513541554
its not about following a benevolent plan, its about if you dont stand with your people very soon you will lose your freedom. heads are always going to clash, wars are always going to happen, you cant just put your head in the sand and say youre peaceful dont hurt me. and when it is your peoples turn to get into some bullshit... you stand with them when needed.

>>513535934 (OP)
Not for women it ain't

>>513536003
For you.

>Is the draft in violation of free will?
Absolutely not.
For example see here the absolute enthusiasm with which this young Ukrainian patriot greets the recruiters.
They actually have to restrain him from expressing his joy at the opportunity to die for the jews

>>513535934 (OP)
>free will
no such thing

>>513540249
>it is not a violation but obviously it does go against your free will

So it is a violation?

>>513535934 (OP)
Hmm, is kidnapping someone to throw him into the meatgrinder like a slave a bad thing? Gee, I wonder...It's a crime against humanity. Admittedly, hohols don't have much humanity in them, but still.

>>513536428
Why do free will believing brainlet normies always tire first?
What determines your free will? And why was it so surefire that your free will was going to shape up the way it did, as opposed to being more like Little Suzie's free will? And why doesn't it rapidly change (or hardly change at all) without a TBI?

>>513536173
The basis for your claims is a series of literally Jewish fairy tale books. You just call them “science” and pretend that means their stories are more legitimate.

They are rife with logical contradictions and impossibilities by the way. If free will isn’t real your believing or not believing it’s real is a moot point since you couldn’t will yourself to accept one or the other. That’s why it’s so retarded. You accuse one the other of what you’re even more guilty of in order to assert the dumbest shit imaginable.

Scientism should be classified as a mental disorder.

>>513540641
The pic is from this video of a man who resisted when they tried to abduct him in broad daylight in front of a crowd of people.

>>513543037
It’s cute how his gf is pretending to care when we all know that 2 months later she will be drowning in Francesco’s semen somewhere in Milan.

>>513535934 (OP)
Yes because there is nothing worth defending.

>>513535934 (OP)
Bravely volunteered to defend Zulenski.

To the last goyim.

>>513536036
leftists will cheer for this murder. fucking psychos

>>513535934 (OP)
Conscription is worse than slavery.

>>513535934 (OP)
You should considere drafting officier as aggressive peoples who want to reduce you into slavery and therefore defend yourself

>>513536076
Its not a last measure you brain dead retard, the intention is genocide

>>513535934 (OP)
Are traffic red lights?

>>513535934 (OP)
No if you are Hohol.

>>513535934 (OP)
>Is the draft in violation of free will?
so is gravity and mortality among other things. Who gaslighted you in the idea of fee will?

>>513543037
>You will die for greater israel goym, stop resisting you antisemite

>>513536003
>t. vaxxnigger

>>513535934 (OP)
Looks like he's late to his badgoy drone execution in the middle of a random field on the "front lines". You think he'll have time to dig his own grave first? Do you think after the AI has been trained with all this drone data that it will let us dig our own graves first?