Thread 513547726

>>513547726 (OP)
Catholics btfo

>>513547996
did some protestant faggot add it to your new bible?

>>513547726 (OP)
The words of the gospel speak for themselves. Particularly the red letter words attributed to Jesus. These are what's most important. Some high priest deciding to venerate the Virgin Mary hundreds of years after the fact does not make it part of the cannon. Although I see nothing wrong with it, but from a Protestant perspective, anything that causes our focus to drift away from Jesus (in this case his own mother) is considered an impediment to his teachings. Jesus himself says “who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.
To me it reads as though she wasn't meant to be singled out for special veneration any more than all the others.

>>513547726 (OP)
Plenty of Protestants such as myself are fine with the term Theotokos and even Mother of God if understood in the proper context. The problem is that Catholicism has a problem of emphasizing ritual over sound doctrine and Biblical literacy in its churches, which leads to syncretism with local pagan practices. When you call Mary the Mother of God but don't explain that doesn't mean that God depends on her for His existence, don't be surprised when people start worshipping her as a goddess.

>>513547726 (OP)
>DEUS VULT

>>513550646
"red letter" bibles are a heresy. it's sinful to separate Christ's actions from His deeds in such a manner. He taught, He performed miracles, He founded The Church, He died and was resurrected, He conquered death and through His Grace we are redeemed. The Gospels even say of His resurrection that "there weren't enough books in the world" to contain everything that He said and did after He returned.
The writers of the Gospels, having such limited space available to them, still chose to preserve Christ saying to His mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary, "Woman, behold thy son!" and to St. John, "Son, behold thy Mother."
Why do you reckon Christ the Redeemer said that?

Christcucks can't even agree on what they believe and shiet lmao

>>513553166
Red letter bibles are great because they highlight the words of Jesus. And since his final commandment at the last supper was for us to love one another, I refuse to argue with you about this or anything his cousin John has said. Because that is what those Jewish devils want us to do.

>>513551966
of course God doesn't rely on Mary for His existence. She is, however, crowned Queen of Heaven, just as the king's mother in biblical Israel was crowned queen of the kingdom, and is due the respect and honor such a position entails.

>>513553690
I'm asking out of Christian love what you reckon John 19: 26-27 were included in the Gospel for.

>>513553909
There is such a thing as heterosexual love between me. It’s brotherly and has fuck all to do with sex.

Satan lurks and influences the weak to deviate from the path. Although outwardly they are quite different, Satan is the sustainer of both Catholicism and Islam

>>513554229
Yes. Yes there is. Philos as opposed to Eros. There are also other forms of love. (((they))) want us to forget this but I tell my friends I love them all the time.

>>513551966
exactly this.

Praying towards a statue of the Virgin Mary does not equal idol worship...huh big think.
Dear Mary creator of the universe, thank you for not possessing any super powers?

Should we worship the person that gave birth to Mary?

>>513553297
Believe it or not, but there is not a single verse in the entire Bible that specifically calls the Jews or the tribe of Judah God’s chosen people. This misconception comes from the fact that the Jews of today have declared themselves to be Israel and not the house of Judah, as the Scriptures rightfully call them.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220526080336/https://gottmituns.com/what-is-a-jew/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT_RUdBTlp4

>>513553909
I do love you brother. Jesus, while on the cross, bequeathed his mother to John. Surely she is important I could never say she isn't. I even have a small figurine of her on top of my bookshelf to remember what she did. I'm just unsure about praying to her because than she becomes an obstacle between me and Jesus.

>>513547726 (OP)
The modern version of Marian devotion is completely different to anything practiced in the early church. They held her in high regard as the Mother of God and considered her a perpetual virgin. However, the cult of Mary and the Saints only became more prominent and like what it is today in the late 4th century and throughout the 5th century. Before hand, it was merely acknowledged that angels and saints pray for the church, not that anyone ought to pray to them for intercession.

Not to mention, that Marian prayer has also been dated as being from the 3rd to the 9th century by different scholars. It only entered common use in the 6th and 7th centuries so later is more likely.