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>>513572111 (OP)
Since the last thread was fast:
>Russian Hacktivists from Killnet, Palach Pro, Beregini, and User Sec breached Ukrainian General Staff networks and claim to have data showing 1,721,000 dead or MIA Ukrainian troops - https://archive.today/0QW9P
1,721,000 dead or MIA Ukrainian soldiers, the data of which will apparently be released by the Moscow in the coming days presumably after it is examined and scrubbed of information useful to criminals.
Western Media previously reported a massive security breach of NATO command and control systems in which Russia was monitoring and shaping the Ukrainian military's perception of the war and actions.
The X account PoisonFrogs33 https://xcancel.com/PoisonFrogs33 that has been combining daily estimates of Ukrainian loses had the number of dead or MIA Ukrainian soldiers at about 1.2 million.
Last year there was a scandal in Ukraine where a TV broadcast put the number at exactly 1,126,652 dead or MIA Ukrainian soldiers.
Kursk and the Donbas push have happened since.
United States Army colonel Douglas Macgregor previously said the number of dead or MIA Ukrainian soldiers exceeds 1 million.
Western media also reported mass desertion and hundreds of thousands of people fleeing.
It all tracks.

Compare this to the "trust me bro" numbers from the EU glow in the dark project Mediazona that puts the total number of Russian dead or MIA at 121,507 or maybe 165k. According to civilian Russian mortality data, for the age cohort of the Russian military and in a population as big as it, approximately 10% of the possible upper estimate and 15% of their claimed confirmed deaths would be expected to be from natural causes. Combine this with the fact that about 20% of their military is comprised of inmates fighting for a pardon and it speaks to Russia's ability to continue fighting purely from a man power perspective.


War is hell, but attrition war versus a larger, better equipped, and more professional force is a special kind of hell.

>>513572241
To add to this is the information from a quality post last thread:

>>513565610
>Also I should point out that it aligns pretty closely with my own estimate of 2M+ dead based on NATO chief of staff and Elensky statements, plus statistics
>"Russian occupation forces outnumber Ukrainian forces 10:1 on the frontline" - General Yuriy Sodol, commander of the joint forces of the Ukraine
>https://archive.is/pj7vU
>Ukrainian battalions in the Donbass have lost 96% of their troops, 20 people left out of 500 at full strength
>https://archive.md/UDD7j
>"They are missing over 10 million people. I estimate that [Ukrainian] losses should be counted in millions, not hundreds of thousands" - General Rajmund Andrzejczak, Polish Chief of the General Staff 2018-2023
>https://archive.is/w9WiI
>"Millions have been killed" - Zelensky
>https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/25/europe/ukraine-troop-casualties-intl/index.html
>Amputee data indicates up to 3M casualties for the Ukraine by summer 2023
>https://archive.is/N4Imj
>Doubling of amputees to 100k+ by late 2024 likely represents doubling of above casualties
>https://archive.is/imAdG
>https://archive.is/oCnqa
>"Only 13-15% of pre-war officers and soldiers are still in active service, rest are dead or wounded" - General Pacek, head of NATO DEEP, basically responsible for training of post-2014 Ukrainian army
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K0aGHn_Zjc
>Based on bread consumption statistics Ukraine's current population is 24 million. This is a 40% reduction of the pre-SMO population of 40 million.
>https://archive.is/dRSJI
>By spring of 2023, the average Ukrainian had 3 dead and 5 wounded close relatives and friends - Kiev International Institute of Sociology
>https://archive.is/Jj9r8

I can fix Utena...

>>513572111 (OP)
Thanks for the checked bread.

>>513572316
I want Utena to “fix” me

>>513572111 (OP)
Poleniggers explain yourself now.

r/ugh got completely mindbroken by 1.7mil haxx
their last cope of ukranny not suffering inhumane loses taken away

why do commit shitskins in this general like cats?

is it because they help hide your zigger dead?

YUMMY

LMAO

>>513572387
They don’t trust the volksturm like we do brother

They don't know how to make elves properly like they used to. Sad!

Currently, there are 3 Tu-95ms aircraft in the air

and 1 Tu-160 aircraft

>>513572512
LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID TO LADY LIADRIN
I'm Alliance but it still makes me seethe, Blizzard devs should off themselves

>>513572621
I wonder if its for this >>513570431

>>513572512
Divinity 2 is the only game that gets elves right. Degenerate cannibals.

>>513572512
>elves vs manfaced trannies
its so fucking over

>>513572111 (OP)
Z
I denounce the Talmud

>>513572052
>the damage control from the shill will be massive
it already is
I wonder how /k/ is doing right now

Nothing ever happens

>>513572169
>>513572199
>>513572111 (OP)
>>513572128
Humina humina humina

Is there an attack on Odessa region?

>>513572172
>the deserters and if they are counting that in there
they probably are
but without a doubt the KIA must be still ridiculously high
>ridiculous amount of mass graves
>people getting vanned every hour
>zlonsky suddenly begging for a cease-fire in the last months
>sumy almost had a collapse some months ago (agent S had to move troops from donbas to sumy)
>breakthrough in pokrovsk right now

>1.7 million dead
Makes me wonder what's the number of amputees in ukranny at this point?

Takeoff of Tu-95MS bombers form Olenya airbase as well

>>513572387
it is explainable, the hohol official number is 1 mil of dead Ziggers, they loved to mention it everywhere, 1.7 dead hohols breaks their narrative completely

>>513572731
warhammer also gets elves right, they fucked up everything

T*lmud status?
Dilation status?
SHILLCON status?
Piggers status?
TND
TKD
THD
TSH
TSK
TSM
TSB

>>513572757
>I wonder how /k/ is doing right now
All the threads get instantly deleted for trolling probably and you get a 3 day ban so you can't appeal

>>513572387
Ukranny was always going to suffer more (aside from in the cope on the other general) but I can understand why people have reservations about it being quite so high. Those are horrific casualties. To put it into context, if that’s true then they have lost more than the entire British Empire did in both world wars plus Korea

I would have put it at 2-4x whatever Russian KIA was due to them being on the defensive and basically having no heavy guns. If it really is in the high 1.
million range then it is GG no RE

>>513572840
Yes.
https://t.me/OdessaDumskayaNet/99864

>14 can't be re-ACK!

SEND IN THE NEXT WAVE

LMAO

>>513572960
That's huge, wasn't expecting that anytime soon

>>513572907
>pic
my beloved little sister

>>513572512
This is all the fault of feminism.

>you can't just make attractive female characters because you just can't.

Why though? The jews are extremely fucking retarded, porn was their main weapon, their magnum opus, it worked and still fucking works to this day.

And yet, they decided to remove sexualising from one of their moat popular mediums. Sexualism that was keeping young men distracted.

But I'm glad they did though, woke up a good quarter of the west and singlehandedly instigated the culture war, which led to were we are, funny how that works.

>why would you say this what if they go back to their old tactics

They won't, if they do they'll never be trusted again, especially if they admit defeat. Their whole agenda is to appear as on the right side of history, so if they admit defeat, their whole philosophy would be shown as a fraud.

Which is why, to this day, they're stull defensive about gamer gate.

>>513572932
>To put it into context, if that’s true then they have lost more than the entire British Empire did in both world wars plus Korea
What makes you think those numbers were accurate?

Say what you want about BG3 but I want a Drow queen so badly to slice me a little with a dagger and then top me

>>513572932
I'd agree, but the body exchanges do back it up.

>>513572858
That is how the holier than angels western woke "helped" Ukraine to stand up to ebil bully.

>>513573042
Lots of strikes yesterday too. It seems that Putin and Gerasimov are not fucking around.

novoshakhtinsk refinery is not refining so good anymore

zizster our response?

>>513573086
Is... Is that a NIGGER?

>>513573011
Why doesn't 14:1 show on the map?

1.7 MILLION DEAD HOHOLS!!
>>513570581
Crazy shit man.
Escape the echo chamber. See what outer /pol/ thinks.

>>513572932
No freaking way it's that high. It's probably the usual propaganda bullshit where total losses are conflated with KIA. 1.7 mil total losses would translate to about 170-200 k KIA tops.

>>513573068
Why would we lie about that, either way? Civilian casualties during the war I can understand but given battalion/brigade diaries were kept at the time, that’s about as reliable as you can get

>>513573086
elves are only good for sex

>>513573088
Body exchange is irrelevant, Russians are advancing, so both sides' bodies would be on Russian territories

>>513573233
In the Russian news it is reported as the total number of dead and missing.

>>513573222
>NAFO discord and /k/uck have been astroturfing /pol/ since 2022
>"See what outer /pol/ thinks."
I'm not interested in what the NAFO discord has to say

>>513573347
>russians are advancing too slow
>but not so slow that hohols can't pick up their dead

>1.5 million
Not a big deal. Pedorussia lost what? 7+ million during WW2. Ukies are protecting themselves.

>>513573382
Well they are lying then, this is same cope as NAFO's one million dead Russians.

And thank God. I want Russia to win, but I don't want Ukrainian population to be completely ground into a pulp

>India has resumed purchases of Russian oil, ignoring criticism from the US — Bloomberg
>Trump pushed India into China's arms
>Trump' tariffs are making BRICS more united than ever.
>The Financial Times reports that China and India are seeking to 'repair strained ties with high-level visits' and 'ease tensions amid Donald Trump’s trade war'

>>513572316
I want to make her worse

>>513573442
so you okay with all hyhyls dying?
glad we can agree on it
want to shake hands?

>>513572621
Oh no they will bomb another abandoned field!

>>513573565
>resumed
They never stopped.

>>513573442
ah, okay, that's squares things then

>>513573442
>Ukies are protecting themselves
from what though?
life?

>Explosions reported in Kiev.
>Ukrainian monitoring channels report the takeoff of four Tu-95 strategic bombers from Engels Airbase.

>>513573382
So its a complete bullshit then

>>513573571
GIGA BASED TAKE
I KNEEL

>>513573632
Probably just news Berg actually trying to have a consistent narrative for once.

>>513573058
You're right, they will often use games to promote their own goals, which are to increase feminism, fewer or no children, and the disappearance of the population (especially the white race). Although having a strong woman is not a problem, it has been in history, but they have always been a minority, never a majority. And even when the female character was glorified, she was always beautiful. This is completely the opposite today, and some things are added to the redesigns that spoil the appearance of women. Yes, unfortunately, this is done, and promoting porn is the greatest evil.

>>513572898
Exactly. And not only Warhammer, most games that involve elves mostly have them contributing to the near destruction of the world there. In Warcraft most of the evil that happened to Azeroth was caused by the elves (Highborn, Nightborn, High, Blood and Void Elves), especially by Queen Azshara. She is on the same level as Tolkien's Sauron. Pathetic, although the best characters themselves are actually elves (not all, but the most famous for sure).

>>513573669
from not being ruled by jews
from having freedom
from having soviet legacy infsrastructure and industries
to name a few

Z

>>513573692
Here we goooo

>>513572375
its belorussian dissident aka zmagar

>>513573739
More like refusal to admit they lied the first time around.

>>513573669
From russian invaders, are you daft or what?
Ukraine is a country of 40+ million, it can sustain a few million losses, like the USSR did.

>>513573692
>takeoff of four Tu-95 strategic bombers from Engels Airbase
Too shame i'm not at home to hear their turbo-props another time

>>513573692
bomb the hyhyls

>>513573692
I can’t Keeev

>>513572375
Poles are always kind of fucked up. I think it's the German DNA some of them have or the Euro globohomo propaganda

>>513573755
everything in warcraft is stolen from warhammer so its almost 1:1 replicates warhammer story to noones surprise
also in nulore jailor was behind everything

>>513573222
Dude, the Jews really destroyed Ukraine completely. I know there are almost 38 million of them right now, but this is going to be really bad.

>>513572731
This
Also lizard women

>>513573919
Post göyslop.

>>513573919
I wonder if the people either lack chromosomes, or have extra.

>>513573889
USSR actually only started recovering from ww2 loses recently.

Powerful explosion in Dnepropetrovsk region

Pokrovsk still stands

SEND IN THE NEXT WAVE

LMAO

>>513573438
Repostan

Reducing things to their simplest form can help make sense of the POW/dead trades.

Offence
>Attack fails with 0 survivors
Defenders take all the left overs.
>Attack fails with few survivors
Defenders take all the left overs.
>Attack fails because it is aborted after taking some casualties.
Defenders take most of the left overs and the attackers might take exclusively their own fatally wounded, though they could leave them to increase their chances of survival and burden the enemy.
>Attack is a raid
Defenders take some of the left overs and the attackers may take most if not all their wounded and even some of their dead back. Though the attackers could leave them to increase their chances of survival and burden the enemy.

Defence
>Defence fails with 0 survivors
Attackers take all the left overs.
>Defence fails with few survivors
Attackers take all the left overs.
>Defence fails because it is aborted after taking some casualties.
Attackers take most of the left overs and the defenders might take exclusively their own fatally wounded, though they could leave them to increase their chances of survival and burden the enemy.
>Defence was "elastic"
Defenders take most if not all their wounded and even some of their dead back. Though the defenders could leave them to increase their chances of survival and burden the enemy. Yet either way the attacker is baited into a stronger defence that leads to failed attack and the defenders take the left overs, including the initial ones.

For the numbers being traded to make sense the Ukrainians must be failing at offence and defence.

Yet there is one more state to consider to get a full picture.

Attrition
>Defence holds for a while despite massive casualties as the attackers are trying to kill the defenders not take land
Defenders have to expand and exhume existing cemeteries to make room for the results of Syrsky's genius.

Now consider meat catching, territory loss, and begging for supplies, arms, and pay.

>>513572932
Well the russians razed multiple pretty nice sized cities and they keep leveling villages one after another, while the ukraine somewhat damaged one city in kursk. One side causes far more destruction its safe to assume they also cause more deaths. The only thing ukies have is drones but russia has more of those too.
2m seems like a fucked up number but not unreasonable, they are trying to hold every trench despite being hugely outgunned.

>14:1
>A 4chan meme
>So devistating to the zigger cause they made up their number I response
>Ziggers are now claiming they killed 2 million Ukrainians and still can't cross the Dnieper
>Still don't have Donetsk
>Still haven't retaken lost land from the counteroffensive

Russia is finished and none of you shills are getting paid. Heil Hitler

>>513573981
>I know there are almost 38 million of them right now, but this is going to be really bad.
There were that many years and years ago. Since the independence, the numbers have been dropping.
There's less than 15 million Ukrainians left in Ukraine.

>>513573347
russians were advancing in 2022 and 2023 too
but that wasn't a problem for hohols back then, they still had bodies to deliver

they still had bodies during the soledar-bakhmutt (may 2023) fuck fest too

>>513573953
>also in nulore jailor was behind everything
Don't remind me, Zovaal Jailer is my "strongest" character ever. XD

>>513573233
>>513573553
i guess it's just a confusion between "casualties" and "dead"
mediazona states that 120k~ russians died so far - i would add another 30k for good measure, so 150k give or take
1.7M hohol casualties give us around 300 to 400k dead and the rest injured/mia

>A large fire in Dnepropetrovsk region, visible from the city — likely the result of a successful Geran strike on a Ukrainian target.
Video: https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/157963

>>513574046
I'm going to forever remember WW3 as the war of video watermarks

>>513574049
>Pokrovsk still stands
He's actually doing it KEKAROO

>>513573600
Wdym?
I've got nothing to hide. I'm a diaspora Ukrainian/Russian (this entire distinction is retarded, but my birth certificate says Ukrainian, do it is what it is). I want Ukraine (and Belorussia, for that matter) reunited with Russia, not decimated.

200k KIA is bad enough, almost 2 mil would be catastrophic for the population. Slavs are already on their way out with our dogshit post-1991 birthrates.

>>513573833
Lost the 50-50, not sure if I'll be able to get her.
>>513572687
When BC came out my friends finally started playing so to play with them I made a new char, a blood elf paladin.
It's just crazy.
Her Hearthstone portrait was completely fine.
She became ugly and she is trembling with fear.
She is a fucking paladin for Light's sake, why would she be scared?

>>513574137
1.7 million dead pigs. Seethe, tranny.

>>513574146
Yes, you're right, Ukraine's demographics have certainly collapsed and will never recover from this.

>>513574137
oh no zizster our response?

>>513573222
>the numbers get worse EVERY YEAR
How is that possible? I thought that they would gain experience and then become better fighters over the years. >>513573423
>I'm not interested in what the NAFO discord has to say
Me neither. /chug/ has the comfiest threads. I don't like all the repitive bullshit on the rest of /pol/

>>513574290
I don't have her yet

>>513574321
>Yes, you're right, Ukraine's demographics have certainly collapsed and will never recover from this.
100%. It's a dead country. And that's what the jews want. Jews will colonize it once they are chased out of Israel.

>>513574322
When Krasnoarmeysk is liberated, are you going to move on to Slavyansk and Kramatorsk?
Kupyansk and Konstantinovka might be liberated before Krasnoarmeysk due to troop shortages

>>513574137
>>14:1
>>A 4chan meme
>trump on his twitter knockoff
>"a 4chan meme"
LMAO

>>513573500
just a regular pissport check
no need for the kids to act like some retarded tcc goblin attacked their car an dad

>>513573782
Boom

>>513574412
just like your liberated kursk?

ukies are STILL THERE

LMAO

>>513574297
In 4 years, lmao. Still 30+ million ukies available to fight pedorussians.

>>513573889
Living under your older flag with better conditions or having your entire population die out and cities glassed to fight a retarded war for globohomo? Wow, such a moral conundrum.

>>513574191
warcraft is a dead franchise lore-wise, it was irreversibly fucked in vanilla where they made nelf female druids and nelf male warriors and undeads in horde without any fucking explanation.
its like warhammer during and after age of smegmar and 40k after women space marines when soritoras already exist

>>513574573
>ukies are STILL THERE
Yeah people still collect hohol corpses in Kursk

>>513574280
>>Pokrovsk still stands
>He's actually doing it
lul
porkroast holds

>>513573889
if the losses are so easy to sustain why not be open about them then?

>>513574573
Kursk is liberated
Every video you have posted of Kursk had snow in it
Now again, are you going to move on to Kramatorsk and Slavyansk once Krasnoarmeysk is liberated?

>>513574412
I haven't forgotten you btw

>>513574623
you still dont get it, trannoid?
its not about time its about dead hyhyls.

>513574137
You're trying too hard, nigger.

>>513574374
>1.7 million
Oy vey! Anudda hoholdomor

>>513574625
I guess the russoids should have rolled over for Hitler during WW2 instead of losing 7+ million people resisting him then.

>>513574742
Oh ya that’s me
Comparing Germany to Russia is quite retarded considering Russia has a plethora of natural resources and can wage war indefinitely while maintaining air, artillery, and sea supremacy

>>513573058
Feminism has become a beast that kikes don't actively control. You can't make attractive women because it makes women jealous.
Yes, women get jealous of cartoons, videogame characters, and even their own daughters.

>>513574680
>/chug/ celebrating fagner getting buckbroken
>took 2 years to march 2 miles to Chasiv Yar

Heil Hitler

>>513574816
Oh shit! The meme flag nafo schizo has been joined by another shitposter.

>>513574623
>to the last hohol!
That’s the idea

>>513574656
>warcraft is a dead franchise lore-wise
I don't take WoW lore that seriously anymore after Warcraft 3, although there were some great stories, but as you said a rip-off of Warhammer fantasy and Tolkien's world. I used to want Blizzard to make Warcraft 4, but as things stand as time goes by, thank God they didn't, they would have ruined it even more.

>>513574256
>A large fire in Dnepropetrovsk
>>513573692
>>Explosions reported in Kiev.
>takeoff of four Tu-95 strategic bombers from Engels Airbase.
NICE
1.7M dead hohols AND we get to see some nice explosions
the day just keeps getting better and better

bomb hohols :D

>>513574895
>Heil Hitler
>supports a kike and one of the most historically Jewish countries next to Poland
I don’t think you guys are understanding what war of attrition means…

>>513574685
Nobody openly talks about losses during wartime, retardbro.

>>513574861
why are you comparing ukranny which is supposedly to trannoid nafoid propoganda its own country to ussr of which russia is an inheritor state?
why would russia lose this war if it can keep killing hyhyls when time is against hyhyls?

things you are saying dont make sense

>>513574870
What happened to the black sea fleet? And you strategic bombers? And Wagner? And the VDV? and your Kinzhals? and you S400s? And you AWACs planes?

>>513574656
People just play it for sunk cost fallacy at this point and feels.
I only started playing MoP because my cousins are playing this

>>513574984
You’re under appreciating the small things anon
3 GUR niggers kiaed by FSB
Commander and two others captured
Commander handed over a list of 16 active saboteurs inside Russia

>>513574984
Why is life so difficult, loliposter?

>>513574046
>>513574256
>yet another midnight sun
No wonder why they are squealing this hard

>>513575004
because it might make the public demand for peace

>>513574860
>hoholdomor
kek
According the leak
>250k professional soldiers
>750k professional reserves
>1.5-2 million TDF
>1 million conscripts
>500k western volunteers
>complete lack of manpower at the front
>4-4.5 million soldiers for Ukraine
>fewer than 750k left in the field
So, killed, captured, deserted and crippled is around 3 million. And there aren’t fields of prisoners or hordes of deserters…..

pic related is one of the Western volunteers. she's from Spain. apparently, she belongs to some schizo fascist/neo-nazi LARP organization in Spain

>>513574256
Ukies say that they have hit a refinery in russia and now ruskies are raining on their parade by outdoing their little bomb

Alright it's seems SHILLCON 1 is still be few next days since r/uhg/ niggers must "organically™" cope/damage controlling "things that didn't happen but we must shill for no reason™"
See ya later chinks.
And don't forget to share love with your sister.

>>513575107
Hi

>>513573307
>Why would we lie about that, either way?
IIRC Ukrainians started classifying some KIA as MIA just to avoid compensating the affected families and there are a few reasons why an officer would want to cover up for his mistakes and send false reports to his higher-ups, as long as he's confident he can get away with it. Even with constant surveillance, satellite footage and more sources than we've ever had there's still a lot of debate surrounding casualty numbers. I imagine historical data can only be more skewed

>>513575003
>Rushill jimmies so thoroughly russled they're admitting it's a war of attrition

Russia lost WW1 3 different times, gayboy

old 2023 hohols causalities leak is in the ball park of todays 1.7 million hack numbers

>>513575057
Well considering that they are literally bombing kiev and dnepropetrovsk city atm…
Black Sea fleet still operates…
Wagner still operates in Sudan and Southern Africa as well the Congo
>VDV
Died in gostomel….
Died in Avdeevka….
Died in Kursk….
Died in Chasov Yar….
>literally moving in on Konstantinovka
Khinzals still exist…
S-400s still exist…
AWAC planes still exist…

Even serge (zigger) on twitter was calling the 1.7million number bullshit and filatov on telegram was saying no breakthrough to konst

Why is it that zhills on 4chan are the absolutely stupidest of all of vatniks on the internet?

>>513575191
its not evne shillcon 3, they are this pathetic
its just that they were so demoralized that compared to their usual activity its shillcon zero.

>>513575217
>lost ww1 3 different times
What does this even mean

>>513575191
Far from shillcon 1
I am the only one approved to call shillcon 1 around here.

>>513575053
Because the situation is the same. The Ukies are protecting themselves against the russian invasion, the same as russia did against Germany in WW2. But for some reason, the Ukies can’t keep protecting themselves with heavy losses and should give up, according to this general.

>>513574374
They cannot get experience if their veterans cannot be made by the simple fact that everyone is getting blown to smithereens and rotations are done using fresh meat that never saw combat. You cannot relay information and tactics or develop a complex war tactics infrastructure if you don't have people that went to war alive.

>>513574861
Funnily enough, initial reaction to German invasion from Russians was pretty mixed - many were hopeful that Germans will get the Bolshevik bullshit out and leave them be. They even got part of the Orthodox church on their side. However, German army's conduct was so atrocious, they soon made enemies where they didn't have to.

My family lived thought the 1930th famines ("Holodomor"), then my great grandpa was killed in 1937 great purge, so my family had very little love for Stalin's regime. However, they still fought for Russia, after witnessing that Germans were, in fact, even worse than Stalin's goons.

It didn't have to be that way. Were Germans to treat Russians as equals, Stalin's legitimacy would have collapsed, and war would be over in a year.

1.7million dead/missing would also imply millions more wounded. Estimates for 2025 put Ukrainians military at anywhere from 900k to 1.2million personnel.

If this zigger cope was even in the realm of being true, Russia would have decimated the entire Ukrainian military 3-4 times over.

Unfortunately for ziggers, you cannot reconcile this fantasy with the reality that Russia has failed to occupy 1% of Ukraine since their initial gains 3.5 years ago.

>>513575342
It’s literally just the mulatto gore nigger and some nafo faggot crying about 1.7 million

>>513575398
Then why are you crying so hard about it?

>>513575088
I came here to mock you. I'm not arguing or discussing anything. I'm telling you I raped your mother. Your response was "WELL I RAPED YOUR FATHER". Then I scoffed and called you a faggot. It's not my fault this thread is collectively a lolcow

>>513575158
This does align with my ongoing maximum estimates. Used to be 2.5 million early in the year.
Up to 1.5 million dead is also entirely plausible, and a certain number of soldiers going AWOL/surrendering and returning to being Russians, meaning they'd probably not be registered POWs.

>>513575407
I know, hence why I've not called the shillcon 1

>>513574374
Those numbers don't add up.
Wjy is 2025 the worst year for hohols when its not even close to being over?
Also how are their losses so few in 2022?

>>513575004
???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEEa1Evlyno
I guess this is bullshit but nothing else he says is. Very cool memeflag.

>>513575131
Nobody in Ukraine wants peace if it means losing its territories.

>>513575057
>What happened to the black sea fleet
bombing ukranny with missles right now
>And you strategic bombers
bombing ukranny with missiles right now
>And Wagner
destroying azog in brekathrough above pokrovs right now
>And the VDV
leading assaults in other sectors of front right now
>and your Kinzhals
blowing ukranny right fucking now
>and you S400s
blowing ukranny retaliation which have in ballpark of 96-99% interception rates right now
>And you AWACs planes
guiding attack on urkanny right now

anything else you wanted to ask?

>>513575407
There is no and. It's the same guy.

>>513575317
Monarchy, Republic, and Commies.

>>513575456
we came to laugh at your retardation and cope zigger

>>513575505
and you can make that claim because?

>>513575505
wrong, hyhyls dont want to die for jews
jews however are all going to force them to die

>>513575537
That’s cool, NKVD fucked up (((kulaks)))

>>513575573
The irony of this post

>>513574374
>How is that possible?
When personnel die its not just the loss of a body it is the loss of experience, and this is doubly true of senior personnel. The more people lost the more the operational and training ability of a force also decreases. If losses get high enough skills and knowledge not only become lost, but the knowledge that they are lost becomes lost. I am of course not talking about the contents of a manual but the real lived experience that makes veterans so valuable.

Add to this the loss of capabilities that were already deficient and only ever recover in dribs and drabs just to be wiped out again.

Add further that the OPFOR is larger and growing, is better equipped and developing, and has more experience and is learning. Though worst of all is that they are trying to inflict damage on their enemy instead of take land.

Russia has control over the entire theatre and with it the ability to determine when and where the fighting will take place. The Ukrainians are further hampered by their need for preformative operations to satisfy their patrons, local ideology, and politics.

>We pushed into Kursk after the Russians removed a mine field!
>But now we surrounded and our supply lines are under constant attack.
>SEND MASS WAVES TO SHOW WE STILL GOT THIS!
>7 waves got wiped out all in the same spot?
>Send 1 more, we NEED to show results.

>>513575464
>I came here to mock you
t. malding tranny

>>513575573
More like crying to me

This is the last one for Warcraft to post today and that's it.
VENGENCE FOR ZUL'JIN!
Z

Better ziggy than piggy.

>>513575233
>speculative conversations about a new Maidan
Oh! What a coincidence. Protests in Ukraine have been happening against Zelensky lately.

>>513575217
>Rushill jimmies so thoroughly russled they're admitting it's a war of attrition
it was admitted to be a war of attrition in 2022 by geneal armageddon when he took charge after istambul backstab
you ok tranny?

>>513575070
>under appreciating the small things anon
true
I forgot about the failed sabotage attempt
>a list of 16 active saboteurs inside Russia
nice

>>513575217
I mean yeah so people shouldn't complain about their interwar and WW2 performance, they did well, besides Stalin being a retard and fucking up 80% of the time that is. Fortunately not everything was up to Stalin, and post-WW2 should also be looked at in the context that eastern Europe was by far the most devastated zone of conflict.
I'd like to see those cunts countries after getting near-genocided a couple of times in a few decades. Let's see how well they cope in comparison.
Guess China is an extremely similar case, except lagging behind the Soviets by about 20 years, and their fuckup leader's name being Mao, not Stalin.

>>513575158
>pic related is one of the Western volunteers. she's from Spain. apparently, she belongs to some schizo fascist/neo-nazi LARP organization in Spain
Every organization of the kind is full of CNIggers (Like the FBI in the US but 99cts store tier)
Of course that they would join the most obvious glowniggery ever

>>513575524
It's easier to rape you if you stick your head in the ground. I don't mind you being in denial. Keep sending your children to die. Every Russian child dead in Ukraine is a Russian that can't attack the US.

>>513575233
Russia probably hacked it because the US was trying to act like they could use casualty numbers as leverage.

>>513575368
You absolute retard. Should have Iraqis resisted US invasion to the last Iraqi? Should every war turn into total annihilation, because muh international law says so?

>>513575505
They don't; in fact, latest polls say that majority want settlement.

>>513575690
You mean about the corruption shit? That was an obvious glow-op threat.

>>513575754
you just denying reality
if theres no black fleet and no bombers then what is launching missiles at ukranny?
you wont answer me, trannoid

>>513575093
for me, it's because anime isn't real (yet)

>>513575623
I own land. You didn't get all of them, huh tranny? LOST WW1 3 GODDAMN TIMES

>>513575776
>in fact, latest polls say that majority want settlement
patriots are in charge though

>>513575873
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvaC-8FbtYg

>>513575388
You basically described what happened in Ukraine. Before the atrocities in Bucha, many Ukrainians, especially in the East, were favoring the russian side. But then the russians showed their true face.

>>513573058
>singlehandedly instigated the culture war
I don't know, that might serve the jews plans. The culture war keeps the population divided and no one moves against their jewish masters. The west needs to get over the culture war crap and think about TKD.

Why are jeet niggers so fucking retarded?

Oh ya, they eat shit

>>513575879
>you didn’t get all of (((them)))
Yet. 110 and then never again.

>>513572465
>1.7

>>513575898
Thank god for the Ukrainian patriots, THD can continue unhindered.

>>513575720
Please, nigger, tell me what happened to General Armageddon after his massive blunders and his buddy Prigizhins death?

>>513575879
>i own land
K,

>>513575368
Again, you are making wrong comparisson. In ww2 germany intended to genocide all slavs west side of urals. You are comparing this to the war for forcing hyhyls to be neutral state. And you are cheerleading genocide.
btw in ww2 USSR lost only 12mil of combat personel dead but together with civilian casualitis in ballpark of 28-32mil every 5th living person in USSR were dead. and still it was less than what would have awaited them if they have surrendered.

>>513576067
Took control over wagner Afrika Korps and drove the frogs and mutts out of the majority of Northern Africa

>>513575908
That's bullshit. Even if you take Ukrainian story uncritically, it was what, couple dozens people? Russian conduct in occupied territories is night and day with what Germans did. It's preposterous to even compare them.

Ukrainian civilians are running to Russia as refugees. Millions of them, in fact. Can you imagine Russians running to Germany as refugees in WWII?

Please don't feed the shills

>>513573086
What’s so bad about BG3?

>>513575683
Based.

It's fun watching jeet niggers go, NO U about 14:1 3 weeks later, but when you ask them for proof they disappear.

Now they're inventing a new cope of 1.7

LMAO

>>513574374
>>513575656
>Add to this the loss of capabilities that were already deficient and only ever recover in dribs and drabs just to be wiped out again.
To be clear I am talking about things like the Ukrainian military's ability to do things like field artillery.

>>513575879
do you also sell airsoft gear?

>>513575856
You remind me of the retards mocking Ukraine for shooting at Shaheds with guns. You have to be a woman, a man would understand how war sorties work

>>513576024
Unhindered? More like unhinged.

>>513574374
>I thought that they would gain experience and then become better fighters over the years.
Unfortunately reality is not a video game.
What you suggest does work, as long as your units losses per year are low enough, say 20%. This means on average the veteran soldiers survive for 5 years before they die, and can collect up to 5 years of XP.
One problem is: the dead get replaced with inferior soldiers, which reduces the effectiveness of the entire unit steadily, since after 2.5 years half the soldiers have only 0-2 years of experience.
Another problem is that you also need veteran soldiers elsewhere, and in otherr roles, like instructor, so a veteran unit will also lose some soldiers to transfers, or may even be split up, as losses in other units mount, so the new units at least have a core of veterans.
And you see this 20% number is quite devastating already. If it's 30, 40, 50% you cannot really build a proper veteran pool, which is also heightened by the way veterans are used:
>they will need to participate in some of the most dangerous missions since the rookies fucking suck
In Gerrmany getting an Iron Cross was often considered a death sentence, since now officers would assume you have superpowers.

>>513576172
After a few mods to correct the skin color of the non-white characters and give the women bigger breasts it’s a perfectly serviceable game.

>>513575985
Say Heil Hitler right now, commie. Quit the LARP.

>>513575057
True, Russia already lost it's entire population!

>>513576228
Full support for Russian brothers!! We at India are against the west!

>>513575754
>ignorant as fuck
>claims anyone who isn't ignorant is in denial
Ukraine was just crying about Russian bombers yesterday, yet you pretend they don't exist, who's in denial here?

>>513576327
Only one side of this war killed all the Jews in Donetsk city

>>513575158
What\'s she gonna do, fuck me with her asshole?

It's fun watching cope posts like

>Please don't feed the shills

you are the shills you dumb jeet niggers

1.7 is fake

the screenshot are FULL OF DUPES

LMAO

>>513576067
commading current destrution of ukranny
as with your previous copes russia doesnt magically loses assets when you imagine it in your head

>>513576327
Heil Hitler, you kike faggot.

judging by the increased shill activity I assume things have gotten significantly worse lately

I didn't realize how evil and cynical you people are, with the recent Ukrainian leaks confirming that over 24 million Russian soldiers died based on the 14:1 ratio of losses they've been suffering and yet you guys cheer for more deaths and war.
You guys should be demanding that Putin concedes donbas and luhansk and save what's left of the Russian army

>>513575907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJNUk-O2RlY

>>513576139
>HE DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT THE FAGNER MASSACRES
Russia got raped by now ggers, Anon. Sorry

>>513576168
>Millions of them, in fact
Let's not get fucking fanatical here. Maybe if you count since 2014 and include the population of LNR and DNR then yeah, maybe but the actual trickle goes to EU.

>>513576348
most pathetic r/ugh attempt at falseflag yet

>>513576097
>You are comparing this to the war for forcing hyhyls to be neutral state.
And I wonder what’s going to happen to them if they’re neutered and lose the means to protect themselves. You’re totally not going to enact the Bucha scenario, but now on a whole-country scope.

>>513576469
but ratios are 27:1 while 60yos are being conscripted
how you holding up?

>>513576469
>memeflag
>retarded shitskin post
Every time...

>>513575656
>worst of all is that they are trying to inflict damage on their enemy instead of take land.
>Ukrainians are further hampered by their need for preformative operations to satisfy their patrons, local ideology, and politics.
Yeah, when I see this in the news it never makes any strategic sense to me. It only makes sense if this kind of distraction from their own territory is some kind of performative lobbying tactic to beg Washington for more supplies and support

>>513576469
>over 24 million Russian soldiers died based on the 14:1 ratio
it's okay
we have necromancy, the hohols don't
to the last hohol :D

>>513576492
Oh ya they totally got “raped” that’s why all urban centers in Mali are jihadist free…

BURN

ZIGGERS

BURN

LMAO

SEND

IN

THE

NEXT

WAVE

14 : 1

>>513576520
remind me what happened to buchas international investigation?

>>513576469
>retards don't realize this is bait

>>513576452
Ooh, impressive. You're just a low IQ useful idiot and not a tranny or a Marxist. An small upgrade, but race traitors die first and you know that

>>513576469
Apt observation there, dare I say nuanced.

>>513576492
>afraid to say nigger
jesus christ what a fag

Meme flag kikes

>>513575482
Thats how war works, the more casualties you take...the more casualties you take.

You lose firepower, draft manpower of lower quality, morale goes to shite, attrition you induce upon your enemy does not make up for the reinforcements etc.

>>513576671
Kikes die first, including the jewish state of Ukraine and all its supporters.

>>513576655
>retard doesnt realise nafoids are this retarded

>Kharkiv copefensive - russian disaster
>Sumy copefensive - russian disaster
>Zapo copefensive - russian disaster
>Pokvorsk copefensive - russian disaster

And the most important part:

STILL CAN'T PRODUCE 10 UKI DEAD PILES LMAO

>>513576616
pile of meat huddled together lmao

>>513576690
>VPN pajeet judging me on a typo
Wow, what a nigger

>>513576808
You do realize there is an iskander video of 46 hohols getting obliterated right…
It’s in clips section rn

>>513576492
>cannot say NIGGER
HOLY
all point and laugh

>>513575482
2025 actually adds up if you look at the body exchange numbers, which are like an order of magnitude higher compared to previous years. Not sure about everything else

>>513576879
KEK

>>513576874
its usual for r/ugh troons to steal russian footage, they been doing it since 2023

>>513576458
>I assume things have gotten significantly worse lately
after r/uhg got buckbroken by the 1.7M revelation
dnepropetrovsk is now getting bombed and four Tu-95 strategic bombers are in the air

bomb hohols

>>513576942
Oh I know
They changed tape color in videos all the time

>>513576813
>now ggers
>a typo
say nigger, tranny
do it

>>513576874
I accept your concession jeet nigger lmao. I'll continues to post my THOUSANDS of dead russian nigger pile webms

LMAO

>>513576813
I'm glad you're a genuine idiot and not a spook.

>>513576813
nah I'm judging you on your lack of character

>>513576997
K
We will just watch kiev and dnepropetrovsk fire works

>>513576492
>ggers
>ggers
>ggers
>ggers
>ggers

>>513572465
>why do commit
ESL shitskin moment kek

Just by reading those threads, you can see for yourself that the russians have an inherent disdain for the Ukrainians. If they could, they would genocide all of them. That’s why you see so many russians seething at the idea that Ukraine must have the means to protect itself in the future.

Choco

>>513572281
I'm genuinely curious but if the Ukrainians are down to 4% manpower on a front how are they not being completely overrun right now?

>>513576997
>noooo that doesn’t count because… because it just doesn’t, okay?!?!
Dead pigs? 1.7 million
Black father? Still missing
Nafo tranny brigades? 45% casualties
You? Seething

FUCK russia

>Point out the commie shills can't say "Heil Hitler"
>Call a tranny meeting on discord to see how they should respond
>They kvetch about typos
Speaking of niggers, Putin is replacing all the Russian children we're killing with African niggers. The next generation of Russians will be half nigger since all the Slavs in Mongolians are being purged. Imagine being a Russian and a nigger, guys. Jesus Christ

>>513577051
I accept your concession jeet nigger lmao.

>>513577093
it autocorrected commie to commit you dumb jeet nigger

>>513577111
but not as much as jews have for hyhyls

>>513576492
Go back to plebbit, cuck

>>513577180
I wont have sex with you hyhylyna

I've always thought that most of the gore ukrainians like to post was from their own soldiers, and now the hack confirms it.

>>513577180
Чoмy нe нa фpoнтe, hohlina?

>>513577111
Is this general gorespamming like the NAFOid one? No.
Are the Russians seething over China and other rising economies?
Again no.

I'm going with projection on this one.

Only thing I'm scared about is Putin cucking when Ukranny surrenders.
>magnanimous in victory
Fuck that, make them grovel on their knees.

Baking
Baking
Baking

>>513577148
>I'm genuinely curious but if the Ukrainians are down to 4% manpower on a front how are they not being completely overrun right now?
They're waiting until Ukrainians are reduced to 0%

I'm starting to think there may be some validity to that 1.7 million leak.

>>513576171
that anarchist meme flag shill has been spamming all over /chug/ today. I guess some anons can't help themselves, me included after it replied to me once.

>>513577111
look retard nigger
this video >>513573500 is the presence
the future will be much more grim
for you to champion that future is pretty crazy

>>513577201
>peaking of niggers, Putin is replacing all the Russian children we're killing with African niggers
>tp
>tf
Your entire culture is around niggers, your memes are from niggers, your zoomers speak like niggers, your biggest e-celebs are niggers, your games are filled with niggers, your army is filled with niggers (and Mexicans), you literally have festivities about niggers, you had a nigger president, you were about to have a nigger femoid as a president instead of Trump

DEAD

ZIGGER

STORAGE

14 : 1

>>513577333
Trips of truth.

Besides, when you realize some of the best weapons the Ukrainians were fielding in this conflict were Soviet stock it's obvious the Russians never envied them any prosperity.

>>513577290
/uhg/ posts proof of Ukrainians killing Russians en masse in a war of attrition and you gayboys post Twitter screenshots and child pornography

>>513577212
Comic Suns makes this picture especially poignant

>>513577207
>memeflag
You're a shitskin until proven otherwise. Tell your people to stop fleeing their shitholes to parasitize White countries.

>>513577301
>surrender
Zelensky is just going to take off and never go back to Ukraine. The government will move to the EU in exile. The people responsible will never face public justice.

>>513577290
Well I am certainly seething over China!

>>513577391
Say Heil Hitler

jeet nigger shills absolutely malding right now

LMAO

>>513577505
Heil Hitler, if he were alive you would be burning on a oven
Retarded ameribrown

>>513577413
go there then
maybe they'll buy some airsoft gear from you

>>513577385
He’s a draft dodger. What’s the problem?

>>513577545
>Argentina calling me brown

Underdark fever

>>513576327
Fuck nazis, heil hitler

>>513577520
LOL

>>513577584
Yes?
Whiter than you brownoid

>>513577462
Looks like the quintessential Western white neoliberal to me.

>no you are the shitskin saar

the jeet nigger cope is unreal

>>513577526
>>513577526
>>513577526

>>513577573
so as you
yet you are not beaten up

>>513577642
Post hand. Timestamp and power outlet

>>513575754
> It's easier to rape you if you stick your head in the ground. I don't mind you being in denial

You don’t need to talk about yourself. Nobody cares about a circumcised niggerfaggot like yourself.

If Russia is so destroyed as you imply NATO would be marching in Moscow by now. You mystery meat trannies have been saying the same shit for 4 years and Russia still keeps advancing. That’s the reality. Those are the facts.

>>513577573
>What’s the problem?
That by now every male over 25 is automatically a draft dodger by a virtue of being near bussyvan.

>>513577694
There, now tell me why you worship niggers as gods?