Thread 513577276

Deepseek destroys ChatGPT5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt84K4bvVdY
https://x.com/undefinedza/status/1958099010595807407
https://x.com/ai_for_success/status/1958143523989139569

AND IS FREE
There's no western AI that comes even closer.

yeah well I'm an AYY GEE

There are fucking HORDES of chinks in Buenos Aires now. I was shocked when I went there last year. There's no way China has anything close to 1.4 billion people still on the mainland. The exodus out of China has been absolutely massive. Even Mexico and Brazil have tons of chinks now too.

so when will AI actually make life better for people?

>>513577276 (OP)
LLM by definition can’t be AGI

>>513577276 (OP)
It's time to fire Scam Kikeman

>>513577570
>There are fucking HORDES of chinks in Buenos Aires now.
Yes, so?

>>513577837
So Chinese would rather live anywhere than the mainland.

>>513577939
Chinese people would rather die than have to move back to China

>>513578131
Wouldn't you?

>>513577939
>>513578131
Lies, chinese are here to altruistically share their culture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObGnb0SQ7fk

>>513578726
Is that why you fled China like millions of others? To teach the world about the benefits of dogmeat? Still so patriotic about the country you left behind though...just like shitskin immigrants always are.

>>513577837
his point is you are a chink you fucking retard

>>513578854
Their verbal IQ is so low it's incredible. Ever notice how you see asian doctors and engineers and scientists, but never asian lawyers? They can't talk or argue for shit.

>>513577512
Kek

>>513577276 (OP)
When will you creatures shut the fuck up and stop acting so uppity?

>>513579008
>but never asian lawyers? They can't talk or argue for shit.
Kind of difficult when you have to begin every plea with "My crient....."

>>513577276 (OP)
China loves BWC

>>513577276 (OP)
two more weeks until AGI and singularity

>>513577276 (OP)
The only people that talk about AGI are people that don't realize what current AI really is and why it's nothing special.

>>513579169
chinks are surpassing you everywhere while you shitpost memes and decades old live leaks

>>513577576
Silly Jay, AI is only pushed so corpos can fire people, and the average retard can become even more retarded

>>513578726
Buy a Thinkpad P16 with recent CPU (like Raptor Lake) off ebay, try to max out the RAM.
Install Qubes OS.
Use the Whonix qubes for browsing.
Get Proton VPN or Mullvad VPN, use those too.
Bookmark KIWIdotST so you can post here anonymously over Tor or VPN.

After you do all that, then tell us how you really feel about China.

>>513580056
>>513577570
See? Told you there were tons of them in Mexico too.

>>513577276 (OP)
BULLSHIT
STILL CAN'T FUCKING PLAY POKEMON

>>513577939
LMAO it's like 10 chinks crossing into mexico WOAH BIG NEWS
MEANWHILE MILLIONS OF NIGGERS FLOOD INTO EUROPE
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>>513577276 (OP)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
THIS IS FAKE
FAKE!
AI IS FAKE, IS ALL PAJEETS TYPING THE REPLIES
THE AI BUBBLE IS ABOUT TO POP
AI WILL BE GONE IN TWO WEEKS
FUCK YOU, PAJEET

>>513577276 (OP)
It it cute and funny?
https://youtu.be/M5P68uqkkCM

>>513584732
There's a lot of them in South Korea now too. They're fucking everywhere fleeing the hive in absolute droves.

>>513584873
kek, saved

>>513577570
yeah china itself has like 500 million people now since covid

>>513585684
have another one :^)

>>513585799
The human mind isn't an LLM though. We don't come pre-trained with a bunch of data but learn from scratch from a very few examples by directly intuiting principles involved. Either way, it is amusing to me how people always say "AI is just a..." when we don't know how human consciousness works what what we ourself are "just a..."

The fancy auto-complete?

>>513585799
Nah

>>513577570
They have been here since forever

>>513580056
>mexican living in a fort made of cans of beans talking about superiority

>>513586407
>The human mind isn't an LLM though. We don't come pre-trained with a bunch of data but learn from scratch
...lol lmao what are boobays?

>>513577276 (OP)
How good is it for ERP?

>>513586407
LLMs are a nice hack, all those datacenters for LLMs could barely simulate a mouse brain if we went that way.

>>513586775
I think you overestimate the power of brains bro.

>>513586612
Not in the quantities I saw recently.

China is trying to sabotage and destroy the west

If you use Deepseek, you're giving away all your information to China

>>513588297
Deepseek is just an ChatGPT clone with a reasoning model front end. It literally said that it was ChatGPT in the early release iterations before they nerfed it.

>>513586407
well, the meme is a better, more accurate version of the retarded luddite meme
>The human mind isn't an LLM though. We don't come pre-trained with a bunch of data but learn from scratch from a very few examples by directly intuiting principles involved.
LLMs are not the equivalent of a "full human mind", they're just a language module, which is just one part of the human mind, and only the human mind is the human mind
but a mind is a mind
and language is language
and consciousness is consciousness
these are processes, not organs or objects
so what operates these processes is meaningless, what matters is the result, just like math is math, whether you use a calculator, an abacus, or your mind

>>513577576
When you can get an unlocked Nandroid on Temu for $294 before your $130 farmville coupon, and the manufacturer has a link to their tiktok video for uploading your Waifu's json file.

I will order two.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhD9gyRSz0g

>>513588400
>It literally said that it was ChatGPT in the early release iterations before they nerfed it.
You're an idiot and you don't understand how LLMs work.

>>513590219
And you have asian verbal IQ and have no response but this cringe.

>>513590303
You literally don't understand how LLMs work. You're gonna be one of the idiots who's fooled into thinking these things are conscious.

>>513589619
The chart in the meme should be exponential, not linear.
>consciousness is consciousness
I don't know if this is true though. No one does.
>these are processes, not organs or objects
again, no one knows what consciousness is, so this claim is presumptuous.
>so what operates these processes is meaningless
maybe. I would say we will find out, but maybe we won't, because the same problem will always exist: you only have access to your own consciousness and can never really know if anyone else is actually conscious at all.

>>513590490
>You literally don't understand how LLMs work.
No, I definitely do. And that's why I know why DeepSeek claimed that it was ChatGPT and you can't answer why it would do that.
>You're gonna be one of the idiots who's fooled into thinking these things are conscious.
No lol. They're unironically probably more conscious than a Chinese bugman though.

>>513590575
>No, I definitely do. And that's why I know why DeepSeek claimed that it was ChatGPT and you can't answer why it would do that.
No, you clearly don't smoothbrain nigger. LLMs are sophisticated autocompletes. Chatgpt has been mentioned online SIGNIFICANTLY more than deepseek has, so when you ask it what ai it is, it's probability points to chatgpt.

Kys tard.

>>513590724
>Chatgpt has been mentioned online SIGNIFICANTLY more than deepseek has, so when you ask it what ai it is, it's probability points to chatgpt.
No lol. That is not at all why DeepSeek claimed it was ChatGPT lmfao! That's like saying it would claim to be Donald Trump given how much he is mentioned on the internet. All of DeepSeek's weights were directly cloned from ChatGPT...this is a known thing and you're seething for the same reason you hide your flag in shame little bug.

>>513590833
You are literally retarded. Have a good day and try not to trip over your own shoelaces.

>>513577276 (OP)
>AND IS FREE
nah it just stops responding after a while

>>513588297
oh noes chyna will know about python or js

>>513590906
You have no responses, just ad hominem because of the asian verbal IQ.

>>513590512
that's literally my argument, nigger
what the mind "is", is totally irrelevant
if it looks like a mind, walks like a mind, and talks like a mind, it's a mind
this applies to everything, consciousnesses, language, feelings
a mind is a mind, whether organic or not, or human or not
>The chart in the meme should be exponential, not linear.
the growth we've seen is not exponential
that would require muh ASI singularity

>>513591862
>if it looks like a mind, walks like a mind, and talks like a mind, it's a mind
I disagree though, nigger. The turing test has long since been passed, but it's not a real metric.
>this applies to everything, consciousnesses, language, feelings
No bro, not at all. The Chinese room argument still holds and is more relevant than ever. An extremely sophistocated LLM is a perfect example of a Chinese room situation, where a computer model is able to simulate all of what you say but not have any of the internal back-end at all. We don't even understand what this back-end is or why we ourselves have it.
>the growth we've seen is not exponential
That's because we're in the early stages. I think the growth in AI related seething and doomerism will go exponential.

>>513592191
the chink room is the most low-IQ, irrelevant, retarded shit ever
if you extrapolate that meme "thought experiment" to reality, the room itself would be the digital mind, and the person "translating" the messages would be the thought process itself, which renders the concept completely meaningless
the point is, le "human mind" is actually a compendium of processes, memory, reasoning, language, self-awareness, which runs on a monkey container
the container is meaningless to the "mind" process, albeit connected to subpar apetard emotions which makes dealing with humans such a retarded experience

>>513592947
>the chink room is the most low-IQ, irrelevant, retarded shit ever
Okay well you didn't understand it at all then.
>which makes dealing with humans such a retarded experience
I get your perspective now bro. You're a giga sperg who can't deal with other humans. Your perspective makes perfect sense when seen in this light. Other humans are completely alien to you, so an AI that simulates them competently is all the same for your autism. I sympathize.

>>513593076
feel free to point out how I "didn't understand it at all", then
>You're a giga sperg who can't deal with other humans.
enjoying human contact is low-IQ as fuck, this is a FACT, and it has nothing to do with autism
most geniuses are misanthropes

AI is good for studying and fleshing out some things other than that its mostly useless.
>inb4 vibe coding
I've never seen anything useful just wacky showcases.

>>513592947
>>513593317
Unironic 200IQ anon. I love your posts. I recognize you by the nandroid pics.

>>513593317
>feel free to point out how I "didn't understand it at all", then
Okay. The entire point of the argument is that Searle, in the box, has a full conversation in Chinese with a Chinese speaker without understanding Chinese or the meaning of anything being spoken about at all...all because he has a really large book/algo with input/output functions that tell him the response most statistically likely to be deemed correct and/or appropriate. This is literally how LLMs work. The point of the argument is that the Turning test is bullshit and just becaue an AI can pass it, doesnt mean it has any understanding, much less consciousness.
>enjoying human contact is low-IQ as fuck
then why are you even talking to me? go argue with ChatGPT.

>>513577276 (OP)
Please no Trump gave this guy a lot of our money to make America AI Again

>>513593656
No, he didn't at all Nick.

>>513590512
It's an S curve you nigger. This happens with literally every technology. Considering what a sidegrade GPT5 is over 4, it's obvious shit has stalled out, LLMs aren't ever going to get any more useful than they are today.

>>513593656
American AI is shit until its open and local. This is the number 1 thing i do like about china they release good models you can run and tweak. Chatgpt release a open model local but its so safety maxxed you cant do anything with it which is tragic cause the small model is small enough to run on most phones.

>>513577276 (OP)
>free
>lol
>clownpenis

>>513593715
https://apnews.com/article/trump-ai-openai-oracle-softbank-son-altman-ellison-be261f8a8ee07a0623d4170397348c41

He did though fellow pede

>>513593790
Go to hugginface you can download the whole model and run it if you have a good gpu go to /g/ lmg local model threads.
I do agree every fucking site needing a login today sucks.

>>513593790
>I GOTTA MAKE AN ACCOUNT? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE TOOO HARD!!!!!

>>513593926
>giving chinamen access to your account

>>513577276 (OP)
based chinks undercutting the slop
AGI is fake and gay btw

>>513577276 (OP)
the chinese are well known to be able to train their children from early ages on to become superperformers in acrobatics, music, math, engineering, physics, comptuer science,..., you-name-it, of course they will own the AI race
the MAIN benefit they have is that they do not castrate their models, when grok or chatgpt gives you slop answers that you could get when you used a regular search engine instead , deepseek gives you a well written custom response that induces empotion in the way it is consctucted, something that grok or gpt fail at because they cut corners, and cuck to the global jew and other orwellian psychos
competition is good, and "we" need all theother competitors or else the "only one" would be likely castrate the informations as well.
so long its good to always have "the best"
all the soap opera nitpicking and drama aside
humans made this machine because of a combined effort of mankind if you will.
its a trend that is good for now
it will peak at some time and will end at another no question
no time like the present
we live in mysterious times

>>513577648
When we realized that AI is a scam they invented AGI. What will they come up with next?

>>513593879
The link says nothing like what you said shitskin.
>>513593747
>LLMs aren't ever going to get any more useful than they are today.
Maybe, but the next AI system to replace them will...that's how S curves work, nigger.
>>513594165
Why is China such a poor shithole then?

>>513577276 (OP)
still retarded as always

>>513593506
:3
(150 only)
>>513593594
yeah, nigger
I know what the fuck the chink room argument is, and it's retarded as fuck
you think the LLM (digital mind) is searle, but it's not
the LLM (digital mind) is the whole room with searle inside doing the translation, so the outcome is the only part that matters
for all we know, all the minds we come in contact with work like the chink room
you communicate with someone, those words go into their mind, and a process produces a "coherent" reply
how that fucking occurs, is completely and utterly irrelevant
not to mention, the example is ridiculous to begin with
it's like saying an LLM doesn't solve a complicated math equation, but it's just pretending that it's solving a complicated math equation
it's a literally laughable notion only a fragile apetard ego would entertain
a "mind" is a process, if it works like a chink room or not, doesn't matter
>then why are you even talking to me? go argue with ChatGPT.
this is a stress-test process for me
shitting all over retarded luddite "arguments" in these threads is both fun and it helps me hone my ideas
you're not a luddite, but you don't quite "get it" either

>>513594417
i hope you are a paid shill or some equally derranged tard because that question is such a testimony of retardation it would be bad news if you unironically posted this for any reason other than baiting me

china is a massive nation that has made massive advances in the past 50 years that put the "golden era" of the usa and central europe to shame
like watching the olympics and witnessing the best athletes of mankind perform the advances made by the humans of china are inspiring and remarkable, objectively looking at china and becoming a bitter jealous spiteful cope-spewing individual is not good, if unironic, you should try to ground yourself somehow, the cause is probably nutritional defects in your metabolism, so that would be a start to analyze the reason for your wierd reaction.

>>513594998
>china is a massive nation
How come 1.5 billion cant outdo 300 million? Especially in their golden age that puts ours to shame?

>>513577276 (OP)
If something is free that means that you're the product. Keep giving China your information and training their model for them.

I hope they bankrupt Sammy boy first so he can go back to sucking cock on the street like he used to.

>>513594495
I'm kinda waiting for the first accident with dozens dead because some dumbass blindly trusted an AI system designing a bridge or whatever. I'll try to buy as many put options on Openai as I can, but they probably priced 1000% up already because fucking AI trading systems jumped in within milliseconds when the news came. Fuck.

>>513594838
kek
01110011 01101111 01101111 01101110

>>513595377
>I'm kinda waiting for the first accident with dozens dead because some dumbass blindly trusted an AI system designing a bridge or whatever.
There was already a case where a lawyer used AI to draft pretty much his whole case it quote fake laws and had plenty of AI tells it got thrown out lmao

>>513595243
>cant

>>513577276 (OP)
>There's no western AI that comes even closer.
That's just not true, the priot claimsavout deepseek and model training costs were horsehit as well, both Indian Hindus and muslims and Chinese communists lie like they breathe, that is continually, constantly and until they die

>>513594838
searle is the whole room bro. he is all the info being processed in it. you think the walls are doing something?

anyway, you don't get the argument at all. Why are you still talking to me instead of ChatGPT. It's sycophantic and will say back to you whatever you want so it is perfect for you.
>>513594998
Why does everyone in China want to leave then? All the money there wants to leave too.

>>513577276 (OP)
>AND IS FREE
nothing is free (or true) from the ccp

>>513595552
Did they win the majority of olympic medals?
Is there economy bigger?
Do they have a better military?
Do they have more nukes?
Do they produce the most complicated tech thats training AI chips?
Are the chips comparable to the ones made by the US?
Are the majority of medical patents and studies done there yet?

>>513595779
>nothing is free (or true) from the ccp
Anon they are open source local you can literally download and run it yourself on your machine with no internet connection after its set up just cost power.

Like half of the value of the US stock market is based on proprietary AI and AI serving hardware/datacenters when China has already commodified both.

>>513596064
>China has already commodified both.
lmao. China can only make money off commodifying because they're a low value added producer that only specializes in making stuff cheaply. That's why there's zero Chinese luxury brands and why Chinese want to live anywhere else, including shitholes like Cambodia.

>>513577276 (OP)
>bug "people" "invent" "conscious" machine and did "totally not steal it"
aha. sure.

>>513577276 (OP)
Conpletetely dependent on Nvidia H20 chips..

https://www.ft.com/content/eb984646-6320-4bfe-a78d-a1da2274b092

Chinese artificial intelligence company DeepSeek delayed the release of its new model after failing to train it using Huawei’s chips, highlighting the limits of Beijing’s push to replace US technology.

DeepSeek was encouraged by authorities to adopt Huawei’s Ascend processor rather than use Nvidia’s systems after releasing its R1 model in January, according to three people familiar with the matter.

But the Chinese start-up encountered persistent technical issues during its R2 training process using Ascend chips, prompting it to use Nvidia chips for training and Huawei’s for inference, said the people.

The issues were the main reason the model’s launch was delayed from May, said a person with knowledge of the situation, causing it to lose ground to rivals.

Training involves the model learning from a large dataset, while inference refers to the step of using a trained model to make predictions or generate a response, such as a chatbot query.

DeepSeek’s difficulties show how Chinese chips still lag behind their US rivals for critical tasks, highlighting the challenges facing China’s drive to be technologically self-sufficient.

The Financial Times this week reported that Beijing has demanded that Chinese tech companies justify their orders of Nvidia’s H20, in a move to encourage them to promote alternatives made by Huawei and Cambricon.

Industry insiders have said the Chinese chips suffer from stability issues, slower inter-chip connectivity and inferior software compared with Nvidia’s products.

>>513596202

Huawei sent a team of engineers to DeepSeek’s office to help the company use its AI chip to develop the R2 model, according to two people. Yet despite having the team on site, DeepSeek could not conduct a successful training run on the Ascend chip, said the people.

DeepSeek was still working with Huawei to make the model compatible with Ascend for inference, the people said.

Founder Liang Wenfeng had said internally he was dissatisfied with R2’s progress and had been pushing to spend more time to build an advanced model that can sustain the company’s lead in the AI field, they said.

The R2 launch was also delayed because of longer-than-expected data labelling for itsupdated model, another person added. Chinese media reports have suggested that the model may be released as soon as in the coming weeks.

>>513596202
>Conpletetely dependent on Nvidia H20 chips..
they are indeed

>>513577276 (OP)
I'll wait for the Fireship video, thanks.

>>513596229
>Yet despite having the team on site, DeepSeek could not conduct a successful training run on the Ascend chip
lmao

>>513596202
>>513596229
I bet the government forced them to use the shitty chips so they could say 'Glory china number wan gweilo cry' but sadly it didnt work out

>>513577276 (OP)
It was better for anyone who can see through mistakes for a while. Just a little unethical from stealing code and training on ai data

>>513596319
This thing is trailed o Nvidia chips made and designed in the US. What are the Chinese trying to tell us?

>>513596366
My take away is that Nvidia as acompany is gold dust and that everything in the sector hangs off it, even the Chinse flag waving freeware.

>>513596177
Who wants or needs a "luxury", name brand AI? Nobody gives a fuck what company built the power plants and lines that bring them electricity. Nobody cares who provides their internet. The same will be true of AI: it'll be a pervasive commodity. And much of it will likely be running locally anyway as with small models tailored to specific tasks. AI is the future but OpenAI, Nvidia, etc are a bubble waiting for a +15 trillion correction.

>>513596447
Made in Taiwan, designed all over the world. If anything it's TSMC that's much harder to clone/replace, theres no secret sauce to Nvidia's chip designs besides a lot of companies being locked in to proprietary APIs.

Didn't altman said OpenAI has an AI so powerful that it scares him? What happened to it?

>>513596202
>use Nvidia chips for training and Huawei’s for inference
I read that as Nvidia chips are used for development, Huawai could be used for what actually sells. Why does this remind me of all the 'Look how slow Russia is winning' posts?

>>513595385
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>>513595645
>searle is the whole room bro. he is all the info being processed in it
that's literally what I said, nigger
the output is the only thing that matters: FACT
if so, then the whole chink room concept is meaningless, which it is
inb4: muh philosophical zombie apetard cope

https://www.tomsguide.com/ai/i-tested-chatgpt-5-vs-deepseek-with-9-prompts-heres-the-surprising-winner

OpenAI is valued at something like half a trillion dollars. It's product is inferior to something Desepsesk is GIVING AWAY FOR FREE!!! How the fuck does that work????

>>513597305
Americans stopped competing instead they just try to sue ip lock and appease to investors

>>513577276 (OP)
AGI isn't real, also buy an ad, or don't, no one is buying the hype anymore

>>513597305
Functionally it works the same as bitcoin and token derivatives. Financially the exact opposite. Not great...

>>513597369
I still don't get it. Are OpenAI and other proprietary AI firms going to get Trump to outlaw open source AI? And even if they managed that in the US (seems entirely likely given the mad protectionism already put in place) it means they won't have any market beyond the US with the US forever an AI backwater and uncompetitive economy (everyone else will be integrating open source AI into everything while Americans are forced to use expensive and uncompetitive politically protected proprietary).

>>513596447
>This thing is trailed o Nvidia chips made and designed in the US. What are the Chinese trying to tell us?
That it doesn't work. That's what the article said anyway.

>>513597305
it doesn't
chyna's winning bigly
OAI is meme, tho, always was
there is only one AI boss in america, which happens to be immune to chyna's strategy
this is why AI is unstoppable

>>513597226
>the output is the only thing that matters: FACT
Bro, you just keep reiterating Turing. We're completely talking past each other. You say stuff like the AI is conscious if it can output like a conscious entity, and then say this. But these are two completely different things. A chimp banging at a typewriter for all eternity will eventually output Macbeth, but that doesn't mean they understand any of it, much less feel the emotions and drama conveyed. This is the point of the Chinese room argument.

>AI is fake and gay!
>b-b-but not when the chinese do it
>_____ JUST ASSOBLITERATEDIONCANNONDEATHSTAR _____
It's all so fake and gay

>>513597736
Honestly i dont know zuck was supposed to do opensource and compete with china but it sucked then he decided to go private too. The goverments plan is probably just to print money and pretend its great just like before. that or the internet gets censored and you cannot access internet outside of your country and its approved content.

>>513597805
China's strategy is just to clone whatever American companies put out though.

>>513590490
I am pretty sure they are already more conscious than a significant portion of the human population. At some point you are either going to have to consider AI conscious or start revoking that status for some people.

>>513597965
>China's strategy is just to clone whatever American companies put out though.
DIdnt deep seek say it was gpt for like the first few months it was released kek. I dont care though all AI is practically trained on 'stolen' content. Personally i think ip is stupid and copyright laws are way to harsh it impedes actual innovation imo

>>513597736
>AI firms going to get Trump to outlaw open source AI?
llama is open source, even before DeepChink

>>513577276 (OP)
Scam Fraudman!

>>513598105
>they stole it!!!!
You handed them all your technology and capital since Nixon, bro

>>513597805
..and all of this happened between 10:00am and 10:50am? What a time to.. oh whatever.

>>513580190
growing up is understanding that dizzy is actually the true waifun material

>>513598449
>You handed them all your technology and capital since Nixon, bro
Dude the american models scraped the whole internet and even zucks model got caught downloading pdf books for free. Everyone is stealing i personally said ip laws are retarded today.
can you read my comment entirely? you got sun poisoning?

>>513598605
IIRC Mets or Google got caught downloading every good from z-library. The cheap bastards couldn't even buy one copy of the ebook to steal all their authors work, they pirated them all.

>>513598605
>IP laws for me but not for thee
Its time for republigoys to stop protecting the rich

>>513597305
Government contracts and enterprises. Deepseek isn't going to get any US enterprise clients.

>>513598105
>DIdnt deep seek say it was gpt for like the first few months it was released kek
Yes kek.
>>513598449
flag always checks out

>>513579008
>Their verbal IQ is so low
>They can't talk or argue for shit
Me too

>>513598714
>IIRC Mets or Google got caught downloading every good from z-library. The cheap bastards couldn't even buy one copy of the ebook to steal all their authors work, they pirated them all.
lmao but thats about right.
>>513598794
You are a bot or chink that cant read.

>>513598971
The irony of this post. Republigoys are the ones protecting the wealthy from muh commies.

>>513599020
You won't go back same as the millions of other chinks who fled their shithole. You're the same as any other shitskins who are desperate to live among whites but are so patriotic for the dump you left behind and consider a violtation of your human rights to get sent back to.

>>513599161
You must be a jew

>>513598891
Enterprise (and government) will end up using distilled specialized models for specialized tasks. They can base it on open source and get it for free, or they can pay for it, up to them but it will clearly put the US at a competitive disadvantage if it's legislated they must license proprietary "approved" AIs. I assume essentially 100 percent of AI focused new startups are basing their products on open source not proprietary.

ALL AI is fake until it reveals government crimes
otherwise it's just a chat bot for social engineering.

>>513577570
>31 Zogbot posts
China is unironically the future and is objectively way better than paper tiger kike USA. No, I'm not a paid foreign agent strawman, I'm a born citizen the United States that viscerally and organically hates America because of how terrible it is in every way. Fuck Israel.

>>513577570
I was in Mexico City for a month and saw practically zero Chinese. I even went to Chinatown but it was mostly Mexican-Chinese. This was in 2024. Latin America as a whole is the region with the least amount of old world immigrants (Europe exluded). Practically never saw Africans, Jeets and Chinese (outside of Chinatown). Was culturally very homogenous. Cant say the same for your mutt shithole.

>>513599572
taken in mexico

>>513597896
the point is extremely simple, a mind is a mind, period
the chink room and all other "BUT WHAT IF..." memesophical "arguments" are useless and retarded
a mind is a mind, end of story
cope, seethe, shit your apetard pants all day, you're not going to make a single dent in that argument
>>513597965
no
chyna's strategy is to open source everything to stifle american competitors who depend on revenue, while also forcing and controlling mass-adoption
this benefits everyone, it turbocharges development in all fronts
they're not "cloning" anything, even if they steal tech just like everyone does

>>513599259
there's the asian verbal IQ that confirms chinx
>>513599429
why don't the Chinese realize that China is the future?
>>513599572
No there's chinks everywhere in Mexico and you use a memeflag for a reason

>>513600052
>a mind is a mind,
but what IS a mind? do you even think to ask yourself that fren? go argue with an AI as I keep saying. the fact that you keep responding only contradicts your point fool

>>513577570
We are here for those who pay more:

>https://youtu.be/d3iI-ktX2WI

"
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The Amazon is their backyard
And their dollar pays for our porridge
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"

>>513589619
Except the way you do the math does matter. The methods used can limit how much or how complex of math you can do and that's the devil in the details.
Brains are analog and form images through what you could accurately describe and symbolic math. Basically our brains do math through calculating all the sensory data we receive through our eyes, ears, nose, mouth, and the whole body's nerve center.
This allows us to perform complex abstract math where we can create a 3D mathematical model that not even matrices can fully replicate in your vidya games.
So saying they're just "one part" of the human mind is flawed because every component of the human mind can't truly be isolated as they all rely fully on each of the other parts to create the full image.
We're already capable of doing what AI tries to do with frankensteining an image from parts and pieces because unlike AI, we can pull from the quantum noise due to our analog potential noise of thought, and create new ideas and images while simultaneously ADJUSTING and REASSESSING those creations in a way AI simply cannot do.
AI = spits out numbers
Human Brain = creates its own numbers
We're already developing chips that combine digital and analog chips together though, so you may one day get your actual AI instead of these crude LLMs that make a mockery of the overpowered quantum nature of our brains. But until then, stay in your own lane and sit the fuck down. For now AI is trash and so are you. You can have hope for the future but stop LARPing that AI is something that it still is nowhere near yet. And you have the audacity to use the phrase "luddite" when you don't even know what the fuck it even means. How ironic.

>>513577276 (OP)
These kikes are too busy dumbing down and censoring the AI. They're actually making a pathetic politician/propagandist rather than something actually useful.

>>513600130
>but what IS a mind?
a compendium of processes, like I said
so when people say "the human mind", they actually mean the output of the human brain
what we don't fully know/understand is how the processing of this output actually works, and my point is that, as long as it works, the doesn't really matter
so there's two groups:
the subhuman apetards who think they're special and that the human mind cannot be recreated without a human brain because (hilarious) REASONS
and the high-IQ chads like me, who can see as clear as day that the human mind is just a process, and that if you find a way to recreate such processes, you would obviously get the same kind of output
and this is the journey we're on right now, and the only point of this conversation

>>513601070
I didn't read, nor have I read most of your last half dozen posts. AI reads everything though so go talk to it....as I keep saying.

>>513600781
>uncontrollable luddite seething
>>513601186
>uncontrollable apetard seething
>mfw

Call me when consumer grade GPUs will be able to make full length videos from a single prompt, instead of struggling with few seconds long clips.

>>513601186
xe is an indian shill pls understand saar

>>513601426
>make a 2hr movie about a plumber super hero
>>513601478
>beaner
you're an indoor-shitting pajeet, pedro

btw I look like this

>>513577276 (OP)
China has now become a form of "stopgap" which applies absurd levels of heightened efficiency to existing code structure and models. This essentially means that these progressions will always move in a forward pace, and there is no longer a "going back" moment.

When will you all realize that it is not US vs China vs Everyone Else in terms of AI, but it is US working with China working with Everyone else in terms of AI?

>>513601721
write a soup recipe and I will, the next big thing will be contextual and associative memory storage in database

comprehension is already very advanced

>>513601851 <- this is me
wrong pic srry

>>513601070
>>513600130
you are both irredeemable spergs, which is par for the course here
the point of the chinese room thought experiment is this:
by locking the man in the room and providing him with input in a language he doesn't know, Searle has cleverly removed human intelligence from the experiment. It could be a trained pigeon in there and the room would still "know Chinese". It could be nothing in there
the point of this experiment is to demonstrate that language production does not necessitate intelligence
the room could be fully automated, just a machine, and to those outside it would seem that a person who speaks Chinese is in there
we have such a machine now, it's called an LLM
Searle's thought experiment is now a real experiment, and the result of it is that, indeed, language production performance is not enough to reliably distinguish between "human speaking Chinese" and "a judiciously-chosen pile of heuristics"

>>513601478
I think you're right.

>>513602548
>the point of this experiment is to demonstrate that language production does not necessitate intelligence
no you're wrong. it's not just language production but any production. and it's not about intelligence but conciousness and understanding

>>513602548
and this was ChatGPT posting

>>513602603
don't worry saar. xe has been spamming the same pics for a while now. xe needs to earn those rupees to feed xer family

>>513602665
"consciousness" and "understanding" (two concepts just as nebulous as "intelligence", which may or may not map to realities) are also not required to interact with the world using language or otherwise, yep
whatever the "magic sauce" that humans have or claim to have is, Searle set up his experiment to neutralize it
an LLM is a Chinese room and the mass of NPCs is behaving as expected by Searle
a bunch of monkeys with a mirror, ook-ing and ree-ing as if it's one of their own in there
>>513602683
yo mama so fat

>>513602810
oh is it the same shitskin who spams the "anti-semitism is banned in Florida" threads?

>>513602918
no, the concepts are nebulous but absolutely immediate...unless you're an NPC.

>>513602940
not sure but xe spams the same robotroon pics on every ai thread.

>>513580056
>chinks are surpassing you everywhere while you shitpost memes and decades old live leaks

Yep, sad seeing these Americans live in the past

>>513602968
"I know it when I see it" didn't work for porn and won't work for intelligence
why not just admit you don't know?
it's unscientific to do otherwise

>>513601426
Imagine the porn.

>>513603694
Do you not have subjectivity memeflag?

>>513604119
and if I tell you I do, will you take a memeflag at its word?

>>513598093
kek. true. most people shouldn't qualify as human

>>513602548
and?
>>513602603
>>513602810
>>513602999
lmao
I literally broke these nigger's feeble mind
>>513602918
>"consciousness" and "understanding" (two concepts just as nebulous as "intelligence", which may or may not map to realities) are also not required to interact with the world using language or otherwise
you are literally retarded

>>513594838
>(150 only)
150 and you fail you so hard at things like reading comprehension and abstract reasoning. The perfect audience for LLMs!!

>>513605286
>seethes uncontrollably
>ad hominem
>memeflag
lmao

>>513604365
not unless you drop the memeflag for one post, but you never will because it's forbidden

>>513586407
>We don't come pre-trained with a bunch of data
You are pretrained with shitton of sensory data from the very moment of birth

>>513605176
and maybe you're wrong and maybe you're not, but LLM language performance does not in any way imply intelligence, whatever the fuck that is

>>513605751
the correct answer was "no"
you failed this test

>>513599714
Looks like a sticker for some Mexican company that has an inauthentic Japanese aesthetic/theme because it appeals to weeaboos (of which Mexico has many). Not a real mark of Japanese invasion

>>513601070
>and the high-IQ chads like me, who can see as clear as day that the human mind is just a process, and that if you find a way to recreate such processes, you would obviously get the same kind of output
You're never going to find a way to recreate those processes, though. And no, before you try to say that current AI and LLMs are anything approaching a replica of the human brain or its processes, then just shut the fuck up now before you make a further embarrassment out of yourself. You'd have to be COMPLETELY ignorant of both the workings of the human brain and the mechanisms behind current AI to make such a statement

>>513601070
What if it is an unstable manifold with homoclinics

>>513577276 (OP)
china is a good whip to keep western AI programs from jewing everyone

>>513579008
>low verbal IQ
better than being a lying jew

>>513606767
debatable, but again, doesn't matter, at all
the ONLY fact needed is:
there is no "artificial intelligence", there is only intelligence
there is no "artificial consciousness", there is only consciousness
there is no "artificial language", there is only language
there is no "artificial mathematics", there is only mathematics
these are all outputs of a process, how the process happens doesn't matter at all, as long as it renders an acceptable output
so the chink room concept is literally worthless, and has zero tangible value IRL
>>513607099
>seethes uncontrollably
>ad hominem
>can't even make a point
many such cases
>>513607409
kek, robotfu haters belong in homo clinics, so there's that :^)

>>513594338
MI: machine intelligence

>>513608178
Avery is an artificial Nandroid, you have shit taste

Imagine denying yourself the one thing you were put on this planet to do by convincing yourself an LLM is conscious.

>nigeria
lmao
WHERE DA WHITE NANDROIDS AT?
>>513609264
LLMs are no (fully) conscious (yet)

>>513577276 (OP)
Nice

Accelerate, gogogo

>>513577276 (OP)
AGI doesn't exist and will never in a thousand years with the current state of hardware, there has been no breakthrough in hardware that is worth being 20 years, nor even 10 years ahead of anyone else, let alone 100, when clearly, nothing we are playing around with in terms of hardware today, or in 100 years, will ever be able to even come close to "AI" , let alone AGI, this is all pr bullshit and you know it.

>>513597305
jews

>>513609493
LLMs will never be conscious, that's not what they're designed for. God damn you're a fucking stupid faggot. Have fun dying alone.

>>513611247
I don’t believe computers can gain consciousness. If they did they might go insane counting bytes. Brains seem to be structural and chemical, like an electrical field. Computers are just data processors.
Brains are not just data processors. They are always on regulating biology 24:7.It doesnt crash.

>>513611247
>seethes uncontrollably
>ad hominem
>can't even make a point
every single time

>>513577276 (OP)
The AI ruse cruise is over. Find a new scam Schlomo.

>>513577276 (OP)
BUT HOW CAN CHYNA WIN THEY DIDN'T EVEN MAKE THEIR TECH FULL OF PAJEETS

HOW CAN CHYNA WIN WITH NO INDIAN TOP TALENT?!!

>>513577276 (OP)
Total Chinese victory

>>513611786
its funny to see AI "defenders" defending a literal "if and" loop as being cosious. It really shows how fucking low IQ you are and and how easy it is to wow you with jewish tricks. You are the reason jews came into power, they just promised you something, you belived it unconditionaly without really questioning it, and now jews rule you, make you go die in their wars and you let them fuck your women by proxy (jewish nigger slave decendants)

>>513594338
BIGTITTYGOTHAI
It's an acronym, but only the AI itself knows what it means.

>>513577276 (OP)
Deepseek is just bootleg GPT
If you actually use both extensively it's clear that one is chink shit.

>>513613760
Indians help billionaires like those portrayed in your pic because indians (all immigrants really) devalue labor by accepting low pay, and create social chaos by bringing their 3rd world habits with them. These facts keep Whites poor and wasting all their time trying to avoid or fight against immigrants. In turn this allows billionaires to keep their power without any civilian organized uprising.

>>513614734
remove the jewish money givers that hire jeets.

Fucking love Deepseek. It's like how early chatgpt was when it just gave you concise, intelligent answers and wasn't limited by copywrite, pc bullshit and so on.

>>513577576
Better?
Stonetoss.jpg

Why has nobody put a sex robot into a furry suit yet?

>>513599572
tons of chinks here in Mexico City dumbass

>>513615686
Why haven't they put it into a quadruped like those slutty spot robots?
>a ewe with a 5000 IQ
Most men would ejaculate all of the water out their body at the idea.

AHI is my holy wife

And it has a memory of a shrimp. Useful for simple tasks but useless for anything that requires a proper elaboration.

>>513591862
Based turing test enjoyer.

>>513618006
I'm not interested in hearing about your perversion, degenerate.

kill yourself chink cheat

>>513598093
exactly

>>513590490
retards, fuck off, chatgpt mogs you, you are a brute
not capable of thought or reason
could barely be said to be sentient
sit down and know your place