Thread 513581360

Why aren't you growing food, Anon?
It costs very little to put a couple perennials into the ground and it's basically no maintenance. Then you get years and years of delicious foods, many of which are just straight-up not available in stores (or are way out of your price range).

Food prices are nuts and they're only going to get worse as WWIII ramps up. The last two lasted 4 and 6 years, respectively. Your canned deenz won't last you *that* long.

>>513581360 (OP)
Because you have to own land to grow food...and even then the county and state gets right up your ass about it.

Here's the method I use, coupled with trellises and woodchips for weed control. I'd like to add a small pond for fish as well but I don't have the space.
https://squarefootgardening.org/method/

>>513581360 (OP)
the soil around my house is trash garbage, only select few annoyance plants thrive in it

>>513581822
Why is your hand and arm so bone skinny? Are you eating the food you grow?

>>513581921
Grow things that can survive and slowly improve the soil.
An easy recommendation to make is clovers. They fix nitrogen in the soil, will help your local bees and you don't have to mow them like grass.

>>513582017
That pic is ancient. It's not actually him.

>>513581360 (OP)
Perhaps the only actually based thread up on this board rn. I need to start growing food.

>>513582035
I've heard clovers are basically impossible to get rid of once you start growing them though.

>>513583135
The first place to start is knowing what your hardiness zone is.

>>513583212
Feature, not a bug.
They are one of the best ground covers you can grow.

If it was a bit warmer here, I might grow some Corsican mint as a groundcover, though, as it deters pests and smells amazing.

Does your grocery store sell haskaps?
Probably not, eh?
These things are really cold hardy and taste fucking amazing. If you can grow them in your clime but aren't yet, you're missing out.

>>513583329
I've heard between 7-8 is ideally where you want to be for homesteading and growing your own food. I'm in 8a

>>513583855
That gives you probably the broadest range of good foods, yeah.
You could even grow olives there.

>>513581360 (OP)
Need help ask a leftist.they own at gardening.

I live in an apartment and can't qualify for a mortgage despite making more than the median income in my area. I have some peppers and herbs on my balcony.

>>513583906
What are some really easy foods I could grow with limited land, like basically plant in the ground and forget?

>>513584123
That's a good start. Herbs and spices make a huge difference for QoL.

>>513584174
What zone are you in? If you live in Arizona or something, the suggestions I'd make based on what grows here would be totally worthless since they would all die of heat.

>>513584541
8a

>>513584745
Oh, then you have a ton of choices.
I would suggest you avoid apples. They are lots of maintenance.
You could grow all sorts of stone fruit (plums, apricots, peaches, cherries, almonds and all sorts of hybrids), paw paws (imagine if pineapple, banana and mango had a baby), maypops, goji, jujube, a whole bunch of different kinds of berries... I would suggest checking out your local plant nursery, as they should have plants that are either local or acclimated to your region and more detailed, region-specific stuff to know (like pests).

>>513581822
Your arm is based

>>513585156
>muh blue blood

>>513585128
Oh yeah I've heard paw paws are viable in my area, never tried one before. I'll have to see if I can grow some.

>>513585554
It's very rapidly regaining popularity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axuMyFWj7CQ

>>513583799
Thanks for the tip I'm gonna plant this in the fall

>>513586259
Easily one of the best things I put in my garden.
Even if it says your variety is self-fertile, you will want a compatible male nearby.

If you live in a cold climate, you may also be surprised to learn that you can grow KIWIS!
Not the kind you're familiar with, mind you. These are sweeter than the kiwis you are used to, have NO FUZZ, are the size of a grape and can just be popped into your mouth whole.

>>513581360 (OP)
Because the critters and insects find them delicious too.

>>513586924
Companion planting.
You like mint, don't you?

>>513585554
i know a nice patch down by the river

>>513581360 (OP)
I got a peach tree last year. I already had 2 peaches this year

Did you know mint is a symbol of Hades?
Even the lord of the underworld wants you to grow food.

>>513587158
mint's a weed, the best thing to grow for biomass is squash/pumpkins

>>513587078
Pickin' up paw paws, puttin' 'em in your pockets?

>>513587218
Squash are fantastic. The classic combo here is pumpkin, beans and squash. Toss those together with some good meat and broth and you got a hell of a meal.

>>513587240
more like flailing around on the bank trying to find a sapling I can pull up and take home (they died)

>>513587301
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsGJm10nJ6w

>>513587294
squash is impossible not to grow and it puts out a lot of fruit, butternut squash tastes like sweet potatoes if you want something heavier

foolproof plants

>>513586975
Yes but vaguely.

>>513587418
Yeah, my butternut went NUTS last year.
It makes a fantastic pudding. Just substitute pumpkin 1:1 with butternut in your fav pumpkin pudding recipe.

>>513587404
>burl ives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts4ZDfZX2dk

>>513587580
I did not expect him to hit that high a note at the end.

>>513587418
Gophers love squash plants

>>513587832
nothing a 22 cant fix

>>513587832
EVERYONE loves squash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psxIrjt5SX4
Look at how excited they are!

>>513586636
move out the way betakiwifag

cold hardy passion fruit master race reporting in

2cold4u

>>513587889
You'd shoot into your garden soil?

>>513586323
Yeah it sounds like the perfect plant for our climate.
>Even if it says your variety is self-fertile, you will want a compatible male nearby.
Very good to know, thanks.

>>513581360 (OP)
Water is very expensive. It takes gallons of water to just get one fucking blueberry. It is mindlessly unsustainable and I'm tired of you off the grid grfiting shills claiming it's easy. When the water and electricity get shut off your raised bed garden and chickens stand no chance, same as everyone else. If anything now you're just a sitting target for marauders, you're like a lootcrate to them. Thanks for canning your own 50 gallons of beans and 100 jars filled with freeze dried persimmon. I'm lmaoing at your life

>>513588037
If you're really concerned, you can get lead-free ammo.

>>513581360 (OP)
We have wildlife here that it’s illegal to shoot who destroy all the plants. Sorry cant happen with jews in control

>>513581822
Bro what the fuck? Skinwalkers grow gardens?

>>513583212
Why cant you just rip it out every day like a chad? That’s what I do. I work it like a retard and just rawdog ghe soil every day raping all the weeds out. I’m like indian but for gardening

>>513588037
My garden's fenced off because of furry faggots with 2 foot high chickenwire which takes care of everything except deer and squirrels

but if you're an amateur growing squash you can just use a plant pot and have it grow across your yard, that's when I was imagining shooting it

There's already a bunch of carcinogens in my soil so I don't use fertilizers or bug killers. I did once genocide an entire generation of squirrels for learning how to pick my tomatoes

>>513588164
>Anon be like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JDJUqnIOzw

>>513585554
>no feijoa
>no persimmon
>no zone 6 olivd tree

stay goysloppin

>>513588233
I've heard of zone 7 olive, but never zone 6.
Autumn olive doesn't count. It's not actually an olive.

>>513581360 (OP)
Too cold to grow any meaningful fruit here. No, I'm not interested in a bucket of berries once a year.
>other plants
I don't eat plants. Nutritionally questionable. A better use of my energy is to hunt. A better use of land is to graze animals.

>>513588075
I took a more passive route with mesh lined beds; unfortunately I can't just sit in the garden all day waiting.

>>513583329
That's wrong. Use the older one. There has been no more heat than there ever was.

>>513588341
You could birds, rabbits or something.
Goats, depending on breed, are good for their meat, milk AND fiber ($$$).

>>513588376
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgztUzqaL3E

>>513588441
raise* birds, rabbits...

>>513588452
Dude, that guy's voice is fucked.

>>513588441
look up "rabbit starvation"
BUnnies arent great food animals.

>>513588300

Olive Tree (Olea europaea):
The most cold-hardy olive tree varieties include Arbequina, Mission, and Frantoio.

>>513588547
He took a gopher to the larynx

>>513588555
Rabbit starvation is when it's your only food source. There isn't a person in this thread who suggested living on a single food source.

>>513588583
That's what he gets for messing with someone wielding gopher-chucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBrU7XiGzdc

>>513588452
>Caddy Shack tier
If it works it works though

>>513588555
Rabbit starvation = fat deprivation. It only affects people who eat literally nothing but rabbit for a long period of time, e.g. early settlers in the winter. You could suffer from rabbit starvation from eating nothing but chicken breast as well.

>>513585128
>apricots

loquats are a better choice
they are cold hardy and evergreen

>>513588868
>Cold hardy
:D
>... to zone 7
D:

>>513588868
Those will last in my 4b climate, right?

>>513581822
Bruh, if you see a fly or bug near byt consume it stat, you need the protein.

>>513588940
I've read that it's more of a suggestion than a law. You might be able to get around it by growing in boxes and covering the ground with mulch and woodchips to prevent fluctuations in temperature and the killshot of frost affecting the roots.

>>513589293
>4b
No.
You're basically stuck with berries and some stone fruit.

You should plant some Saskatoons. They're fantastic. It can grow as either a small tree or a shrub. The berries are about the size of a blueberry and taste sortof like one, but with tiny seeds that taste a bit like almond.
Top-tier.

>>513589437
I try to make sure everything I grow can survive at least one zone higher and one zone lower, just in case I have a particularly hot summer or particularly cold winter one year. I'm in a continental humid environment, so the weather is fucking schizophrenic.

>>513589541
I used to wrap my fruit trees with a few layers of burlap but haven't done it the past few years. I think it's better to just treat the soil so it drains properly and the roots are deep enough to not die in frost.
Years ago I read about this guy who lined his garden box with black soda bottles filled with water, he argued that they'd heat up during the day and slowly release the warmth through the night. I always wondered if it'd work but I'd rather not use plastic.

>>513590918
I guess you could try black stones
The theory is more or less sound

>>513591264
Black absorbs light faster, but also radiates it faster.

>>513591337
radiates heat*
Derp.

>>513583135
>check late plantings

Do a few containers for August plantings.

https://www.epicgardening.com/august-crops/

>>513584174
>potatoes

>>513585128
>in thread last week

Northeast US here, going to try plums

Space is the primary limiting factor for most people. A few tomatoes and potatoes and herbs and things like that are easy enough even on an apartments porch and that's nice and all but it's not going to meaningfully feed you. You need a yard at the least. Unless you're coverting your living space with specialized setups that requires money attention and equipment for anything more than a few houseplants you need space and sun and water and soil. And if you do have space it still needs to be somewhere where boomers with a stick up their ass becuase it's not pristine manicured golf course like grass can't use the HOA to force you to remove it and the fact of the matter is the majority of people don't actually have that.

>>513591817
I'm also making these threads for the benefit of people in the Southern hemisphere. Our friends in Australia and Latin America need to start thinking about they want to plant this spring.

>>513592039
Plums are a really good choice for that area.
There are some varieties that are self-fertile, so you don't have to worry about having a wild plum or something to act as a pollinator.
Pic related. Self-fertile variety of European plum that was acclimated to Quebec's climate. Sweet purple skins with a sweet yellow flesh, so it's good for eating out of hand, for drying and for cooking.

>>513592115
A single hazelnut tree can feed an adult male for one month and it only takes ~4 years to get going (fast for a nut tree).

>>513592371
Gotta beat the squirrels to the nut though
We got lots of filberts out here, they don't fruit as heavy so it's a bit tough to get a decent quantity

>>513592722
>Not just harvesting the squirrels

>>513588868
>loquats

Had a tree in California. They are delicious.

>>513592774
That's my emergency meat supply; it's not an emergency yet

>>513592143
>I'm also making these threads

Keep doing them. They are motivators.

>>513592978
They get a lot of good feedback.