Thread 513621202

The easiest way to reduce your anxiety about the world falling apart is to insulate yourself from serious consequences.
We know that the supply chain is incredibly fragile.
We see how industrial produce keeps getting recalled for listeria and all sorts of other nasty shit.
We know that, during major wars, food shortages are one of the major causes of death.

Perhaps people should plant plenty of perennials?

A grape vine here, a nut tree there, maybe some delicious pineberries or some other shrub in that other spot... Before you know it, you never need to buy fruit again. You'll be giving some away to friends and family every growing season.

>just plant crops
on what land anon?
I live in an apartment

The stampede from a major city after outbreak of nuclear war will be more traumatic and devastating than the bombs themselves. Your little garden your house and all it's supplies will be looted and trampled in a vast stampede of desperate characters ready for anything. They will steal small children to eat let alone your little potato patch.

>>513621202 (OP)
>We know that the supply chain is incredibly fragile.
not according to Vanguard lol
now Vanguard wouldn't lie to the boomers would it?

i don't have anxiety about it, it's excitement
i cannot wait to watch this fake system crumble under its own weight
as its already doing
my society no longer produces high or beautiful art
therefore, according to nietszhe, we are actually in a state of decline,
and will collapse back into brutishness
until an aristocratic militant class rises from the squabble
and eventually creates high art again
it's a cycle

your overall message is excellent OP
>just got rid of my dryer and switched to a rack/clothesline
my electric bill was also cut almost a third

>>513621477
and i actually look forward to the chaos
because in the formless void is infinite potential
i wish to rebuild from ashes
rather than forced to live under decaying idols

>>513621477
>back into brutishness
lol as if we ever left it
holy fuck

>>513621202 (OP)
This will just cause niggers to kill you and steal your nuts

>>513621611
it's a cycle, the brutishness is ever present
but classes rise above the masses
through discipline and dedication to husbandry
even of their own genes,
and this class (pastoral) becomes nourished
by the slave class (majority) and is enabled
to be freed from the struggle of existence
to create high art and culture
high art and culture eventually degrade the society
since they are anathema to the militant husbandry
which created the superior stock,
and so it goes

>>513621737
>high art and culture
two of the most unproductive disciplines on the planet
and here we fucking are

>>513621841
we have not seen high art or culture in centuries, fren
look at all the bizarre statues our "elites" erect

>>513621737
>militant husbandry
and this is just as stupid as hogh art and culture
you don't think it odd that practical tasks conducive to survival aren't mentioned?
i do love your one fucking extreme or the other paradigm you offer
you expose yourself
>superior stock
i do not compare myself to others to define myself

>>513621667
If people try to steal your food, turn them into fertilizer

>>513622018
you are brainwashed to value material objects
the value is within yourself, not to be found externally

>>513622025
no, it's just an obvious conclusion
if you have two guys in a region, and one eats good
and is active, he will be superior to the one
who eats grain mush and lays about
this is not even a controversial idea we have
examples of this historically
it's just how humans interact like in a game theory
the militant disciplined one beats out the sedentary one

what OP is talking about is permaculture, which is great
best thing i've read on the internet ever is the concept of permaculture
hopefully the left doesn't ruin it with unsustainable extremes/guilt and the right doesn't destroy it with 'investment' lol

>>513622115
the material world is a reflection of the collective spirit
our collective spirit is on life support, barely living

>>513622126
>beats out
more like the lazy one doesn't eat b/c he doesn't farm, this guy would be lazy with or without a busy neighbor
his laziness has nothing to do with the busy guy down the street, he simply dies off
you don't even have an argument here
this is subjective drivel

you are equating building useless, self-aggrandizing monuments with practical and sustainable intelligence, we aren't even having a fucking conversation here

>>513622360
>the material world is a reflection of the collective spirit
it most certainly is not
our reflective spirit has no fucking effect on this planet and its physical phenomena, that is where you are wrong you self-important fuck, with your petty, small goals

>>513622126
That's why I'm suggesting you plant nutrient dense foods. The stuff you get at the store is less than half as nutrient dense as it was just a few short decades ago. Store bought tomatoes are TASTELESS.

I'm talking about planting stuff that's WORTH EATING.

>>513621202 (OP)
>We know that the supply chain is incredibly fragile.
Yes I am still waiting for feminism to seriously disrupt the business survival system in the future over some bullshit which will cause mass suffering. Pussy sniffing your way to the grave, one yeasty vagina at a time.

>>513622591
no pastoralists who eat meat and dairy and are active
beat the fuck out of sedentary peasant farmers
not subjective, quantifiable and measurable in a lab
>>513622719
it unironically is, not my fault you are a materialist and cannot accept certain categories
because it betrays your world view
you are very rigid with language, btw
a dullard

There are so many foods our ancestors ate all the time and half of us don't know they exist.

>>513621202 (OP)
>Bro just become self sufficient without owning property

>>513622723
yeah, that's a great idea
would be nice to have edible fruit trees everywhere
rather than plants that don't produce anything useful
modern urban settings are grim sanatized examples
of our dead collective spirit
i can imagine a flourishing place
full of fruit and vegetation and animals,
and this would be very nourishing for a human
to be in this environment
rather than one full of strangers, automobiles, and noise pollution
with no edible plants in sight, just homeless vagrants

>>513622909
What do you think hunter-gatherers gathered? It was FRUIT and NUTS.

Ever had a nannyberry? It's like a mix between banana and prunes.

>>513622909
you're posts are so fucking stupid and also loaded with things i never said
they are that of a child or poor AI, which are impossible to discern between, btw
this will be the last time i reply to you

>>513623058
yeah fruits and proteins and dairy basically
they didn't even bother with veggies or grain

>>513623103
wrong
my posts are high iq and make you look absurd by comparison
thanks for playing, if i stop responding its
because i am leaving for work soon, thanks for the engagement

>>513622719
Let me guess, you work in an office and think you're doing "real" work and totally not pissing in the wind to make kikes rich.

>>513623192
i am a scientist
i also work in construction

>>513622591
Lazy straw

>>513623115
If you raise some chickens, maybe some rabbits and hunt on top of having a food forest, you're set

>>513622591
also, those "useless monuments"
or high art
stand to this day as greatest accomplishments
architecturally of mankind
show some respect

>>513623028
People would take all the fruit to resell. You can't have nice things with browns

>>513621202 (OP)
Nice fantasy, you literal child
Just do a little research into how long it takes for things like fruit to ripen, how much work you need to stop bugs and birds from eating them and how limited the harvest seasons are
The real world isn't minecraft

>>513623440
hence, we are in decline
we have allowed invaders to proliferate
our lands under the auspices of "tolerance and hospitality"
this proves my argument, this culture is in steep decline
as nietschze's culture was decaying as he was writing

>>513623390
There are olive trees still producing fruit that are thousands of years old.

>>513623586
that's the type of world we should strive for
not a world of cheap houses built shoddily
with shitty labour to sell at a markup to retards
who have a high likelihood of defaulting anyways
stupid ridiculous clown world that produces
ugly cheap plastic shit that doesnt last or mean anything

>>513623502
>ripen
The term you are looking for is "mature". Fruit shrubs and trees take as little as three years to get established. How long have you been holding onto your stocks?

>>513623502
OP is just saying to plant a blueberry bush in your yard, etc., or on the outskirts of town, then whomever lives there will have blueberries

>>513621432
So you take out your shotgun and fucking shoot the thieves, you ignorant leaf

>>513623708
Places actually do plant fruit and nut trees all over the place, but they ONLY PLANT MALES. That means you get NO FRUIT and, to add insult to injury, the trees compensate for the lack of female trees by massively increasing their output of pollen, which means it aggravates people's allergies even more. ALL FOR NOTHING.

City planners, HOA's... they are actually fucking retarded. The fucking lot of them.

>>513623288
So you are a spic labor scab with an inflated sense of self worth, gotcha.

>>513623912
they are complaining about this my town right now for a strip of trees down main street

>>513624020
wut
how did you get there lol

>>513624701
You can help fix it by planting females

>>513621202 (OP)
Nobody has any fucking land to grow anything.

>>513624750
i think they are right now, so it (un)ironic that you are now here saying this

Money does not make food.
Labor, Seeds, Land, Air, Sun, and Water make food— we have ALL of these things WITHOUT fucking money. If you remove JUST ONE of these items, YOU WILL NOT HAVE FUCKING FOOD.
MONEY DOES NOTHING BUT ACT AS A QUANTIFIER FOR FUCKING TRADE.
We cannot have unearned income AT THE EXPENSE OF earned income. Finance must be the servant of production, not its master.

>>513621202 (OP)
I am content to know that I will be dead before we reach total nigger saturation. I won't be around for the end of the human race.

>>513624750
you have your finger right on the pulse of things

>>513621202 (OP)
I wood bury that pinebussy down my throat so hard, whoever could pull the bolus out would be crowned king Arthur
Fucking love fruit guys

>>513624795
>fucking land to grow anything.
go plant it in the woods
only plants that belong there
you have woods don't you?

>>513623792
They will have guns too and they'll be in a gang, a starving ruthless gang that need to eat yesterday. Having a gun might delay the moment of defeat but not by more than 15 or 20 minutes. If you're debilitated in the fight or decide to surrender their vengeance upon you for shooting at them and maybe killing or wounding one of their own will incite a terrifying lust in them to torture you to death with exquisite detail in a long drawn out ordeal that will have you pissing and shitting yourself in agony. Best gambit at that point is to shoot as many of them as possible in your final 15 minutes and then with only one cartridge left turn your gun on yourself to escape the nightmare.

>>513625014
lol your posts
you should write stories for a living

>>513621284
Damn sorry bro you should have been born to the landed class. Enjoy your toil in the cubicle or whatever.

>>513624915
Any machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough

>>513625267
>wrong enough
is this supposed to be chinese humor
lol

>>513625267
nm i get it

>>513625527
https://youtu.be/zWekE8eqMVQ

>>513625803
let's hope the NYFed is pointing the right way
lol

>>513625978
i don't get it

Just create a Paki rape gang once the collapse happens and ride a dingy to the UK. They will house and feed you. Everyone else will perish.

>>513626748
I'm just watching everything go up in flames and pointing out the plumes of smoke.

>>513621202 (OP)
> The easiest way to reduce your anxiety about the world falling apart is to insulate yourself from serious consequences.
>so you should plant food
I get the idea but that’s not how you insulate yourself from the serious consequences you’re referring to. If you want insulation from clown world imploding you’d make sure to have no dependents or women in your life that would inhibit your ability to quickly react to rapidly developing crisis.
Oh look at that, 60% of men 18-34 are single.

>>513626916
it isn't going up in flames
the US is going to bulldoze right over the Federal Reserve
the Fed will be nationalized with a whimper
pic definitely related
this is Trump and Miran's 'monetary federalism'

>>513621202 (OP)
NO! GROWING YOUR OWN FOOD IS BAD FOR THE PLANET. NEVER GROW YOUR OWN FOOD. STOP GLOBAL WARMING.

>>513621454
Growing your own food is antisemitic.

>>513627337
i haven't bought one squash, eggplant, tomato or pepper yet this summer
also basil and parsley
my green beans died

the real important task is drying storing and perpetuating seeds

>>513622018
> we have not seen high art or culture in centuries
I beg to differ. Humans have become high art.

>>513627397
all sorts of feigned boogeymen (concern for the planet) to herd the population
they do it with equality (concern for others) as well

i was starting to think vanguard is the klan

Has /pol/ thought about Inca Agricultural Terraces? I want to develop a hybrid of these adapted to colder environments using the Muray technique. Perhaps with small edible leaves and large edible flowers and seed.

>>513628634
Do you mean where you turn a hill into a bunch of steps?

>>513621202 (OP)
I have checked out of the jewish prison bus

>quit wagie job
>sold everything I had in my name
>all property I own is in somebody else name
>stopped renewing IDs
>stopped paying taxes
>stopped paying car insurance/plates
>free groceries and free techslop (lots of it is hidden in the back nowadays but there are still plenty on the shelves)
Fridge is always packed, I have no bills, obligations, responsibilities or worries.

I am free.

>>513625132
How long does it take for humans to resort to cannibalism?
Survival cannibalism is a last resort. In the case of one group adrift in a lifeboat, 116 days passed without food before the party turned to eating human flesh. In most cases, anything even remotely resembling food was first eaten.

>>513629455
you should fucking know
you're the one that lives in a country that has winter 8 months out of 12
there is more than enough food
cooperation is what humans lack, this is their fatal flaw

>>513629455
>In the case of one group adrift in a lifeboat, 116 days passed without food before the party turned to eating human flesh.
you must be a real hit at parties lol

>>513628958
That's the one!

>>513629637
>there is more than enough food
what OP suggests is putting access to food closer to those consuming it

>>513629726
I quite like it.
You should grow some nasturtiums

>>513629234
always with the memeflags

>>513627238
Nationalizing private buisness is communism

What's next? Nationalized Healthcare? Nationalized Education? Nationalized fossil fuel extraction? Take your commie bullshit elsewhere.

>>513621432
Nukes are fake and gay like all political theater.

Just another iteration of the “do as I say or the sun will stop rising” psyop they’ve been abusing for millennia.

Look at these shitty composites they tried to pass off as pictures of the bombings, they look so fucking laughable to our shopped-trained eyes it’s ridiculous.

Notice that neither Hiroshima nor Nagasaki have elevated radiation levels, nor circular blast radius, in Hiroshima an unreinforced masonry building survived at “ground zero”, both had destruction indistinguishable from the other large scale fire bombings of the war like Dresden. Indeed, the extent of the destruction of the fire bombings was classified for decades after the war. Why? Because the nuke hoax wouldn’t have held if the destruction were compared.

You can’t weaponize atomic energy as it’s analogous to a low explosive, you would need nuclear confinement to generate a big boom. They tried for 80 years to create a real doomsday weapon (as they’re psychopaths) using every imaginable core shape and design, but they failed as it just isn’t possible, you can’t confine it long enough to make it go big-boom.

>>513627238
>the TV show ‘politics’ is going to take over the Fed
Kek.

>>513631364
>Nationalizing private buisness is communism
the federal reserve's assets were gained due to its ability to create the US currency, as a contractor
those assets belong to the american people
and the Fed is always crying how it's all on paper and QE/QT with assets really are just central bank-tier 'constructs' or 'tools' to manipulate interest rates
all that bullshitting is about to bite the Fed in the ass

>>513621202 (OP)
Do, you have enough bullets to get ride of the hordes of starving fucks who are going to raid your farm, and you ass daily?

Do you ?

>>513631364
>Take your commie bullshit elsewhere.
we already practice state capitalism, which is low grade communism and have been for a while now

Daily reminder:
The State Capitalist/Communist Regime of the Federal Reserve Uniparty

There is Free Market Capitalism, which we do NOT practice. This is when you have competition & the rewarding of success.
We practice State Capitalism (low-grade communism) in which the central bank rewards their buddies whether or not they are successful. They also launder their worthless Federal Reserve Notes into real assets while doing so, which are then held by their private corporation. This is State Capitalism.

Again, NOT to be confused with free market capitalism, which is probably only truly practiced somewhere in the Andes.

The Federal Reserve is a group of 12 private, incorporated, regional franchises (they can each be sued) & is the driving force behind the corporate takeover of our government.

State Capitalism (aka low grade communism directed by the central bank):
>the state has considerable control over the allocation of credit & investment
>planning to protect & advance the interests of big business against the interests of consumers.
>government controls the economy & essentially acts like a single huge corporation
>publicly listed corporations in which the state has controlling shares

The Fed con laid out in 105 posts.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/306098770/
Correction in archived thread: change mortgagee to mortgagor

Fed info & links to house & senate crypto summaries:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/329381702/

Criminal activities of the NYFed's primary dealers
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/342538518/

The NYFed investing in China:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/359651784/#359683568

Ukraine & its owner, the NYFed: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/373203255/

Fed thread: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/389999787/

June 2023 Fed thread: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/428705533/

The irony here is that we are, in real time right now, witnessing the failure of low grade communism, aka state capitalism.

>>513632459
>>publicly listed corporations in which the state has controlling shares
kek and pic rel announced yesterday

>>513632408
>we're **lierally** ****just like China***
OH BROTHER

>>513632352
I've got more ammo than you do

>>513621432
kek

>>513632459
State capitalism is good actually. That’s how America industrialized and improved in the 19th century. The problem isn’t the existence of the central bank but who controls it.

>>513632604
State Capitalism is what we are practicing now, and its worst form as seen below and in picrel, a banana republic, is what we are quickly approaching now.

>A banana republic is a country with state capitalism, it is operated as a private commercial enterprise for the exclusive profit of the ruling class. Such exploitation is enabled by collusion between the state and favored economic monopolies, in which the profit, derived from the private exploitation of public lands and labor, is private property, while the debts incurred thereby are the financial responsibility of the public treasury.

>is operated as a private commercial enterprise for the exclusive profit of the ruling class
>is operated as a private commercial enterprise for the exclusive profit of the ruling class
>is operated as a private commercial enterprise for the exclusive profit of the ruling class

>Such exploitation is enabled by collusion between the state and favored economic monopolies
>Such exploitation is enabled by collusion between the state and favored economic monopolies
>Such exploitation is enabled by collusion between the state and favored economic monopolies

>the profit is private property, while the debts incurred are the responsibility of the public treasury
>the profit is private property, while the debts incurred are the responsibility of the public treasury
>the profit is private property, while the debts incurred are the responsibility of the public treasury

pic related

>>513632894
the treasury needs to resume its function
i gg soon
i was just waiting for it to dry out

>>513632894
>The problem isn’t the existence of the central bank but who controls it.
it is a fucking problem

OP is fucking right and you should listen to him

the fed is the only thing stopping us from taking care of our own people
pic rel shows the NYFed trying to increase reserves (the grey area) and get high IORB, too

now they have their dream come true, note the right side of the chart, high reserves, and high IORB
the last time they tried to have both, JPM got raided by the FBI for rigging treasury and silver markets which caused the repo spike, all big banks failed again quietly, they got bailed out again for trillions in 2019 and then we had covid, which shut down the economy and conveniently hid their illiquidity lol

sorry, op, i got off track
i was trying to stick to vegetables lol

>>513621202 (OP)
Faggot OP makes this thread everyday hoping to make queer friends to pick berries with lol

<<<----this is why we shouldn't have a debt-based central bank like the Fed
>1791
the NYFed sells the country right out from under us and acquire assets
>don't make me post the four pages of small energy companies that JPM has purchased while robbing the treasury with QE and IORB

>>513633861
you'd be begging his advice in a downturn

>>513633993
He would be begging for my cock in his ass, is what he would be doing

>>513623502
>work is required so it isn't worth doing

my friends that fucking hike and shoot will outlive all of these people lol
nothing prepares you better for survival living than hiking

canada is loaded with hardy people, so it would likely get pretty ugly up north

>>513632604
i notice this guy shut the fuck up

>>513625014
Demoralization post

IRL, looters whittle away by attrition

If one takes a bullet through the wall in one house out of three, they are done for pretty quickly

We are not demoralized

IRL gangs will focus on supermarkets, walmarts and grocery warehouses

The most competent gang will be former police.

They will have lists of old preppers (aka ham radio registered operators), and gold owners (aka Indians with houses in upper middle class neighborhoods)

>>513635164
Exactly. Same reason door to door firearm confiscation is off the table. They will die off too fast.
Only cooperative strategies work in the long term.
If you are too stupid or sociopathic to get that, then you will be purged. It's just that simple.

>>513621432
That's why you need a fake supply stash as well as a real one. Sodium fluoride tastes the same as sodium chloride but if you eat a few grams of it then it forms hydrofluoric acid in your stomach and kills you.