Is the stock market good for society?

>>513630827 (OP)
>Is the stock market good for society?
No the stock market is a type of gambling. It's easily manipulated by insiders. Gambling has more safeguards then risky stocks. It's time to abolish the stock market. Bye bye billionaires.

It's a useful tool for raising capital, but letting its interests be the primary driver of policy is a bad idea

>put money in vti at age 20
>Don't touch it for 45 years
>Take money out at age 65, it's worth 100 times what it was originally, inflation adjusted
Yeah you're stupid if you don't use it

>>513631012
tiwib but i like to gamble so the market is fun to play with. a casino where they won't break your knees for counting cards, but they are better at counting cards than you'll ever be

In theory yes because it provides liquidity to companies and in turn investors get the benefits of being shareholders.

It becomes a problem when the market becomes a market not of getting liquidity or shares but speculating on share prices.

How do you stop that? I have no idea.

>>513630827 (OP)
What you consider "stock market" is probably the secondary market where people buy and sell stocks of capital that's already been raised.

The "stock market" does have a purpose. Companies need to raise money, and they can choose between debt or selling a part of their company for capital. The "stock market" is the latter.

if you invest into the stock market after gamestop/robinhood then you're just a good goy

>>513630827 (OP)
Th9s question is antisemitic.

>>513630827 (OP)
No. It is a tool for jewosh billionaires to siphon prpfits from companies they dont even own. It doesnt create wealth it prevents corporations from improving worker lives and even their own buisnesses to be slaves to the shareholder (billionaire jews) they own 50 percent of the stock market 40 percent is owned by other corporations buying each other stock and 20 percent by private investment mostly boomers

>>513632414
Owning a stock is literally owning part of a company.

Anyone can do it. You can do it. You can complain that it's something ""for the jews"", but if you don't want to make money, that's on you.

Dodge v Ford Motor Co (1919) says explicitly 'no'.

>>513633349
And how can I buy this stock when I have $0 left over after rent, taxes, food, and utilities?

>good for society
No.

>>513630827 (OP)
>Is the stock market good for society?

The question we should be asking is,
>IS EMBEDDING USURY INTO EVERY FINANCIAL TRANSACTION AND STRUCTURE OF BUSINESS GOOD FOR SOCIETY?

>>513633685
Skill issue honestly because you could have received public education which would have been enough for you to get a trade job. Even if you didn't have enough money for college.

If you really wanted to go to college, you could have joined the army.

So honestly, being born poor isn't an option, but staying poor is.

>>513631551
You're stupid if you think that is money.

>>513635266
>memeflag

>>513630827 (OP)
we live in a society where companies have a moral and legal duty to turn a profit above all else, not for their customers, fellow citizens, or employees but the jeets and chinks that spent $5 on stock aka owners

So yeah it’s great

>>513633349
>Owning a stock is literally owning part of a company.
Not anymore it isn't.
Cede & Co. OWN the vast majority of stock.
You just bet on them in a derivative market.

Don't believe me?
Call and get your stock certificates.
I would wait, but the thread will be several months old by then, so just make a new one and show us.
/biz/ would probably like to see it too, though turning markets into casinos is a very political topic.

>>513632182
>What you consider "stock market" is probably the secondary market where people buy and sell stocks of capital that's already been raised.
Interesting!

Hey @elonmusk grok never tells me things like this, fix your chatbot

>>513631956
>In theory yes because it provides liquidity to companies and in turn investors get the benefits of being shareholders.
this, it's a tool. One that can be used well or abused. Like most of the tools and infrastructure of our society, it crossed into abuse a while ago.

>>513635457
If it's not ownership why do you receive dividends when the company pays them....

Use your head a little.

Obviously if you own 5 shares of a company you're not a majority owner.

>>513630827 (OP)
No. It forces companies to make irrational decisions thereby making the free market impossible to exist.

>>513635592
>fix your chatbot
It is performing within acceptable parameters.

>>513635658
What part of CASINO do you not understand?
SHOW US YOUR STOCK CERTIFICATES.
My father had some when I was a child.
They are legally required to send them to stock OWNERS.
That is not you, memeflaggot 'genius'.
You own nothing.
Good thing you already like it.

>>513635658
it is ownership but it's a very minor seniority level of it, completely unsecured and with very few actual ownership rights in practice. It's also true that buying shares at a broker means you're just getting a book entry, the shares are held in the brokers name and then they play with them and lend them out for payment and only a few pass any of that on to you, the supposed owner.

>>513630827 (OP)
No. Shareholders are basically co-owners of companies. The more individuals are co-owning a company, the less money people working for the company see.
Shareholders are getting satisfied first and then everyone else.

Not even touching stockmarket itself. It's just imaginary value trading. They might as well be trading pokemon cards on wall street.

>>513633349
>Owning a stock is literally owning part of a company.
It's not, you fucking macaco. Unless you have a signicant share, stocks are only fake money with a fake value that can go up or down on a whim and without your consent.
Since you are shilling for kikes, which is common between evangelical retards here, this post is either a trap or made by a retard, in either case, you should kill yourself.

>>513635592
No shit but you have more of an issue with me correcting the OP rather than him not understanding the concept.

>>513635817
Do you not believe in contracts either? What about patents, is the idea of owning something that's not physical hard for you to understand?

Do you believe in intangible assets? Or is it hard? Is the concept of brands difficult for you to accept?

If you buy shares of a company, you're not going to have an office ready for you at the company you've bought it, but you clearly don't understand how it works.

I've had shares which I've sold if that interests you, today I prefer ETFs when it comes to variable rate instruments. Or is that hard for you to understand too?

>>513636152
>Now using a memeflag under the same id which previously showed niggerzil
Yea... Completely legit 4chin poster trying to help you make money.

>>513636422
If it triggers you it's a you issue, I'm not telling you to buy stocks, but some of you here have a really hard time with reading comprehension and actually understanding the topic.

>>513636532
>I'm not telling you to buy stocks
>Shilling hard for kike contraptions
Pick you, macaco.

>>513636722
*Pick one

>>513636722
I buy all sorts of kike instruments because you seem to rather prefer to stay poor instead of make money, just because of (((da joos))). Which is an option, that you choose.

Like I've said, I prefer to buy ETFs than stocks. If you want to talk about that, then sure.

>>513636891
Favela nigger, please. You get paid 10 reais a day to shitpost on social media. Stop larping as some ponzi scheme kike.

>>513636891
>I prefer to buy ETFs than stocks
ETFs are a scam, most just track some index for a fee. Some are ok, but some have ridiculous fees for what is basically 10 lines of code running a weighting buy/sell program. The biggest problem with them though is that in a true dislocation their tracking breaks down. That happened all over the place in 2008 but we've had a whole generation of line goes up young people who don't think that can ever happen again. The prospectus will include this info, but nobody bothers reading it.

>>513637570
I just want something that follows the S&P for me to hold

>>513636152
>today I prefer ETFs
Then you do not own anything today, even if you did in the past.
Getting mad at me for pointing it out is not going to make you any less poor in the coming days when they rug pull THE ENTIRE SYSTEM.

Do you think they are going to make an exception for you just because you think you are better than the poor people?
THEY DO NOT CARE.
They want EVERYONE to take the knee, including YOU.

The Great Reset is not aimed at making most people subjects.
It is aimed at making ALL people subjects.
Like I said, you're halfway there.
You are already used to owning nothing and being happy.

>>513638625
If you want to live in a bunker, have your own farmland, that's great. But the reality today is that money is printed, we use money as a means to exchange. We work for money and we use it everyday. That's the reality today. Maybe it wasn't 10 thousand years ago, but today it is.

If you want to live everyday like tomorow is literally doomsday and everything is going to be wiped out tomorrow, then alright. I'm not going to argue with you.

>>513638625
If everyone is a subject then no one is a subject, BAM!