Thread 513674136

should the death penalty be abolished?

>>513674136 (OP)
Has getting rid of the death penalty ever made a country safer?

>>513674224
No but its not kosher. Let he without sin cast the first stone. Judge not the serial rapist pedophile murderer lest you be judged yourself.

Kino way to kill druggies and peddlers.

>>513674136 (OP)
Personally I think it should be abolished. I don't trust the government enough to accurately decide who should be put to death especially with how low the barrier for evidence is. Not only that the detectives and prosecutors are notoriously shitty fact finders and constantly push narratives even they know are bullshit, just to get a conviction. Not only that if your offered death or a life sentence plea deal than what are you most likely to choose? It's easy to say death but once your in that position you'll probably choose life or some 20 year plea deal. I mean jurors are pretty fuckin retarded and don't want to be there either. Not only that if you have a shitty public defender or even a paid attorney that is also shitty than your fucked. Even if you did get a good attorney, you can still be fucked. I mean it's all just how good the prosecution is at making you look bad. I mean there's multiple cases of people being put to death, even though for a fact they did not commit the crime that they were accused of.

Another fucked up part is the fact that if you go to trial, than get convicted for something you didn't do, and the only way out is parole like 20 years or more later, than you can't parole unless you admit to the crimes you didn't commit. So you could potentially be stuck in prison for ever if you are that adamant on standing your ground.

Not only that even if there is proof you didn't commit the crime but you exhausted all your appeals than your at the mercy of a governor, but would that governor really pardon you if it meant such a massive lawsuit? Not always.

>>513674224
Leftists claim that "Capital Punishment doesn't deter crime", even though they are put on death row for more than 30 years for absolutely zero reason.

They also claim that "innocent people may be convicted". There's DNA evidence for a goddamned reason.

>>513674777
Forgiveness from God and others does not absolve one from punishment.

>>513675627
reddit post

>>513674136 (OP)
They had it coming.

>>513674136 (OP)
No, it should be more common. So much tax money would be saved if life sentence niggas were just buried alive.

>>513674136 (OP)
It should be expanded. Build a organ harvesting industry around it.

>>513674777
does that not just mean to administer the punishment yourself

>>513674136 (OP)
No, you should even let criminals opt into it.

If they opt into it, you can give them a last weak with a phone, tv, movies, video game console and $100 daily to spend on food. In the long run it would save tax payers way more money.

>>513675750
Even with DNA evidence you can still get it wrong. There's a movie called the Life of David Gayle. Worth the watch. It'll change your perception

>>513674777
God has never sinned, and He cannot sin because He is perfect in every regard. Meanwhile, God has killed lots and lots and lots of people. Therefore, we can comfortably conclude that there are instances where killing people is a good and righteous form of justice. This has been universally recognized in all of Christianity until very recently with the pope saying the death penalty is never acceptable, but I'm a Lutheran so the pope can take his opinion and shove it up his ass.

>>513674136 (OP)
Backstory?

>>513676058
If I had my way, I would give them three choices for the futures.

The first would be their execution, immediately after the trial.

The second, to spend 20 years inside of an isolated, dark metal box, with nowhere to go, and nothing to do, and the only thing handed to them would be food thrown in the box, as well as water spraying them to clean them. They are released after 20 years.

The third, would be amputation of all of their limbs, plus making them blind and deaf. But they will not serve any sentences after that.

Even the threat of these three choices, mandatory for homicide, will make crime drop drastically.

>>513676371
am australian woman was caught with 8kg of heroin at the airport with her special needs brother trying to leave thailand. both sentenced to death. happened decades ago

it should be expanded, and made cheaper. Death by tinners hammer

>>513676544
>am australian woman was caught with 8kg of heroin at the airport with her special needs brother trying to leave thailand. both sentenced to death
That woman's sentence was commuted, this is clearly someone else

>>513674136 (OP)
they shoot them? i thought they get hanged. i suppose soldiers need target practice

>>513674777
*sigh*
We're called to judge...
People always misquote jesus when he said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" because after that he said "go forth, and sin no more" which they like to conveniently forget
>capatcha:NODOY

>>513676979
Jesus came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

>>513675750
US has the highest incarceration rate in the world and some of the highest crime rates in the world in cities like New Orleans and St Louis. Clearly the death penalty is not working at deterring anything.

>>513676371
>>513676544
>>513676782
its a screencap from the mini series that was based on
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096540/

>>513677271
And why do you think that is the case?

>>513674224
Yes, safer for criminals

>>513678193
because we have police that actually arrest people and courts that give proper sentences. at least moreso than all the other "first" world countries

>>513678193
Wealth inequality is the closest predictor of criminal behavior. US has extreme wealth inequality and no social safety net. People become desperate and don't fear consequences of their actions. If you prevent people from falling through the cracks of society with safety nets, they feel less inclination towards breaking the law.

>>513678430
I think the issue is more skin deep

>>513678459
yeah no, white people have similarly high rates of crime when forced into poverty and desperation. West Virginia has extraordinarily high crime rates and is almost 100% white.

>>513677517
Thanks mate

>>513675627
lulz im not reading all that shit. reddit is that way
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>>513674136 (OP)
No. In fact Adultery and Acts of Homosexuality should be added to the list.

>>513674136 (OP)
Yes. Not because its wrong, but because the state cant't be trusted with it.

Yes, enforcement is too corrupt.

>>513677271
That's because it's NOT public. Executions are supposed to be viewed by the general public, and while the crime is still in the public's memory....not 20-30 years later VIA some "humane" faggot injection. Schoolkids need to watch the public hangings at an early age too. Do you see THAT happening in New Orleans and St Louis....faggot?

>>513680266
Yeah public executions work so well in Afghanistan, what a pinnacle of society that we should all aspire to. kys dumbass

>>513674136 (OP)
The real question really is do you trust the State and your courts to hand out the death penalty?

>>513674224
Some of the most dangerous shitholes in the world have the death penalty. Not working.