Thread 513682131

All these fucking self improvement gurus telling you that you can become rich if you learn a trade and invest your money in the stock market.... it's fucking bullshit isn't it? There's no way out of poverty unless your parents are rich

>>513682131 (OP)
I make money from Amazon affiliate links

>>513682131 (OP)
That’s not true. If you can minimize expenses and maximize investments you can easily become rich.
>Learn a trade
>Live at home
>Don’t eat out
>Invest majority of your pay for the next 10 years
If you do this from 20-30 you’ll be set for life. But you’re likely a dumb zoomer faggot who needs instant gratification due to a lifetime of scrolling so you can’t think in a 10 year time horizon.

>>513682361
Joke. In 10 years times, there is a high chance the United Stated will be no more.

>>513682361
Let me guess you're a multimillionaire

>>513682131 (OP)
making money and investing it in stuff that produces money for itself is litteraly the mathematically proven way to become wealthy, is true, but not as fast as they say it is, it wil take you an entire life of ward work to achieve that

>>513682131 (OP)
I turned a moving truck into a 2000 dollar moving company instarted with a used uhaul into a delivery service into a furniture retail shop that does 1.2m yearly revenue. I came from a lower middle class family that gave me $0.

>>513683458
That's a solid business idea
. congratulations and honestly I might copy your homework given I already drive for a living and man do people pay a pretty penny to move crap or pax around

>>513682131 (OP)
I worked from 22 to 32 and now have 750k in liquid investments. Although I got married last year and my wife who I will most likely divorce get 100k of that, but i will get primary custody of our child so no child support. I can now work a retail / chill job for the next 7 years and become a millionaire. it unironically does work but please anons do choose your wives carefully.

>>513682131 (OP)
That sad part that it isnt new or different it's actually very common

>>513682131 (OP)
Wealth whispers. People who get rich learn to quietly slip into the shadows, hop on their horse and ride off into the sunset never to be heard from again. Anyone else is a salesman looking for ad revenue for clicks. It can be done, but some dude renting a lambo for hos youtube video promoting crypto or whatever isn’t it.

yeah, better cope by wasting what little money you have on bullshit like alchol and drugs since saving wont do any good anything

>>513682131 (OP)
How much money do you need to live comfortably on investment returns alone? People used to think a million dollars was a colossal amount of money. Like if you had a million dollars you could do whatever you wanted for the rest of your life. It's simply not the case anymore. For you to live an upper middle class life on investment return alone you probably need 5+ million. 10+ to be considered genuinely wealthy. There are zero people I know with that kind of money, even the people doing really well for themselves. Everyone I know is going to be working 40 hours a week minimum until they're 65 and then they'll probably move into a trailer in a trailer park and die.

I don't know anon, I am very bad at making wealth.

I went from being a shut-in NEET at 29 to an investment banker because my mom knew somebody at the company. To tell you the truth she used to date somebody from the company. She sucked his dick. I asked her. Anyway I went from masturbating to hentai to making $230k/year. It was my first job and still is.

>>513682361
>bro just spend the next 10 years living with your mom while working construction and investing ALL your spare money into bitcoin. After 10 years you'll be a millionaire bro just trust. Then your real life will finally begin, for real this time

>>513684725
This. Nobody needs to know. Lambos only attracts sluts.

>>513686914
>For you to live an upper middle class life on investment return alone you probably need
to be rich. You always have needed to be somewhat exceptionally rich, to live an upper middle class lifestyle passively. Either that or just an old fuck with a huge pension.

Wrong you become a guru for profit like them
That is ultimately what they are teaching you but you aren’t listening or seeing

>>513682361
living at home and not eating out is shit young people are forced to do already, theres nothing to cut out there retard
>invest majority
yeah nvidia and ai pie in the sky bullshit that will replace how many hundreds of millions of people if it does what people want it to do?

>>513682131 (OP)

I’m 40 with about 3.5 million in assets. In 2025 that isn’t “rich.” I’d say “rich” starts at an 8-figure net worth. The number of people who start from nothing and achieve an 8-figure net worth is astronomically small. In fact, pretty much every single rich guy I have ever met had wealthy parents.

>>513687018
My dad works at Nintendo

>>513682131 (OP)
they
are
all
trust fund kids
and pre-rich hipster
doofus cunts

>>513683585
YOURE MANUEVERING PACKAGED DRUGS

>>513682361
>Don’t eat out
I love how the past 20 years of economic strife have been blamed entirely on this.

>>513682131 (OP)
Yes, those are all faggots who makes money from your misery, that much is true, but there are ways out.. just don't expect results quickly.

>>513682361
>>Invest majority of your pay for the next 10 years
Invest in what

>>513687731
Eat the beans and you will be rich

>>513683458
Congrats anon.

>>513682131 (OP)
Probably

I think it’s rich that feel guilty because they know they stole the majority of everythng and now make videos to feel good about it

Like what Fauci did except he’s evil and doesn’t care to make any videos

>>513687731
The rationale is simple. That money if saved and invested properly towards things that reduces your overall cost of living will over time become a significant amount which will open more doors in terms of investing etc, having a defeatist attitude will never help. It isn't like we are saying it to be dicks. Your mentality is that "it is such a tiny amount so it doesn't really matter". The reality is that this is pretty much the only way someone from the bottom of society will be able to climb without winning some degenerate crypto lottery by gambling on the latest animalfrogcoin or finding a bucket of gold bars. You will have to utilize time and some effort to get there.

>>513682131 (OP)
Buy cheap chinese shit and sell on local websites. Normies, when they shop, look local because of language, maybe some other reason as well, but mainly language.

The thing is, local retailers already do it too. And they're in bed with each other. You don't have to. They buy shit from china for cents and sell it for 10 euro. Like a nigger in partis selling plastic eifel towers. You can do it too never leaving your room. As to what to sell? Idk, tech bullshit, accessories, tiny stuff will do. Once you get knee deep you can make your own website but it's better if you know how to code yourself because there are so fucking many abandoned websites by small businesses. You can probably do better using pure html.

>>513688689
>It isn't like we are saying it to be dicks.
That is absolutely why your types say this.

>>513682131 (OP)
Yes. You won't make enough if you only have 4 or 5 figures for investment.

>>513682131 (OP)
>There's no way out of poverty unless your parents are rich

unfortunately no, either that or lick balls until you make it, nobody makes it on their own either

>t. rich guys neet son

>>513682131 (OP)
It is possible but the chance of it happening, is similar to the chance you have at winning the lottery

>>513690614
Not at all. That is the route I had to go.

>>513682131 (OP)
False! For example, my wife’s parents are rich

>>513683458
How old are you? Yes, it matters

>>513689802
yea think about what would ruin someones day and theyd need something right now. im thinking like tv remotes, mice, keyboards, maybe hdmi cables. look at your local bestbuy or whatever and undercut them it shouldnt be too hard as they overprice their shit cause of all the overhead which you wouldnt have.

I walked into a business and asked to see the CEO and gave him a firm handshake and now I’m a millionaire.

>>513682131 (OP)
Exactly right. All those gurus are lying. It's a fake it till you make it world. If you can't scam, steal, drug traffic your way into money, it's impossible to become rich with honest means. Even rich kids scam and lie their way to even more riches. Only a violent political and socioeconomic revolution can save the western world.

>>513682131 (OP)
Crypto, but that ship has sailed in 2018. They will probably pump the markets again every 5-10 years though so at least you can make some money but you won't get rich anymore, as I said that ship has sailed.
Even if they drop one million in UBI to every person, it's not going to help you. The only thing that can help you is to have more than what the other 95% goyim cattle have so that you can rise above them and get the things you want in life, which are scarce obviously as all the good shit usually is.

>>513682131 (OP)
I'll never be free of rage.

I made 20gs this year on stonks just flipping back and forth but probably couldve made more just buying and leaving it. Everyone is a genius in a bull market.

>>513682131 (OP)
If those "how to get rich" books actually worked, why is the author selling books instead of following the method in the book?

>>513686914
>How much money do you need to live comfortably on investment returns alone?
Here dont know if its modern

>>513682131 (OP)
they are grifters
but if you give me your money i will make you rich my cousin goldblatts works at bank of jewmerica

>>513682131 (OP)
that thug shaker shit
we need policy to stop that
we cannot tolerate that

>>513694976
that some fucked up mind control
by some faggits doing a plot against our organs

>>513695042
a dumb nigger
and a dumb white bitch
taking human human organs

>>513682131 (OP)
It's possible but what they don't tell you is that it requires a lot of failure and learning from your mistakes. Failing means losing money and you'll lose A LOT of it. People like Gary Vee make it work because he invests in 100 different things, 90 will fail, 9 will do alright and 1 will essentially make bank and pay for everything and then more. It's a numbers game at the end of the day but you need the money for it.

>>513695083
some stupid nigger
with some crazy dyke cunt
want to steal human organs

>>513682131 (OP)
Obviously, you need a great initial investment, a very good payrate and a top-level management of funds to ever do anything with middling 1-2% returns a year

You WILL NOT ever be well off nowadays in a dwilling economy with some shitty job and investing all your peanuts into some jewish scam

You better find yourself some risky moves, a good job and eat rice everyday cause otherwise you are 100% NGMI and even then

>>513695100
There is another way but it only works for neets if you have no bills and can save near 100% you can get to good numbers quickly if you work even the shittest part time job.
You can either save and compound or like you said take moonshots

>>513682361
Okay but you sure as shit wont get a girlfriend this way

>>513695178
See the problem is you're using your own money. A lot of these dudes just get investors to do all the heavy lifting and if it fails just fuck off to the next venture. The only thing that matters is your image anyway because there's a disgusting amount of money sloshing around in the pockets of these assholes that they'll throw anything at it as long as you look and act the part. That's how Theranos happened.

>>513695489
Getting other peoples money is very fuckign hard as a individual goy. I guess you could get margin loans to speed it up

>>513687873
>>513682361

precious metals, non-us stocks and cryptocurrency. americans are will gradually get a lot poorer and as that happens we can get comparatively richer

>>513682131 (OP)
It's a good way to start. It won't make you instantly rich, but it can make your retirement affordable and leave enough that your kids will have a better starting point. From there it just snowballs. That is generational wealth. There is a hard cap, you can only earn as much wealth as the market cap allows and the more of that market cap you control, the harder it is to earn more. But we're talking hundreds of billions in today's dollars before that matters. But to break free of that hard cap you'll also need to actually own a business or control an entire industry.

Why not become a NEET? I am one

>>513682361
>Bro just be a shut in who works all the time in your 20s and never talks to the opposite sex.
I bet you're still waiting for ron paul to make anime real.

>>513682131 (OP)
I mean you can go work mcdonalds and buy lotteries it's basically the same

you could be happy
jam with us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnW-oy0P5IU

>>513682131 (OP)
it's all generational wealth + family connections
Both of these increase your chances to make more money, because scientifically speaking, getting rich is all about luck, to get more lucky you need more chances from connections and enough money to keep trying and failing till you hit the jackpot.

>>513696086
yea you can just randomly start a cult of love and then back down becuse nazis

>>513682131 (OP)
You're much better off developing critical thinking and improving your health and learning all the different fields of knowledge and then inventing something to get rich. If you create a new material or engineer something to be better or whatever you'll get rich. Stock markets on the other hand... well if you're into that I'd learn remote viewing first, the remote viewing groups outperform everyone in the stock markets, but you need to have money to invest into the stocks and even if you do well inflation is so bad that you earning say 10% on your stucks over say 5 years but now your money can only buy half of what it could before means you've lost.

>>513682131 (OP)
>it's fucking bullshit isn't it?
Not if you are able to save every month. But it takes decades and you will old when you have the money.

>>513696231
>remote viewing
>meme fag
never share your geo location, you cringe adult

It's bullshit. You have the same odds playing the lottery, little to none. Trump promised you $5000 Doge Stimulus cheques and has not delivered. Go fight your local politicians for a financial safety net. There's no relying on the ponzi scheme market of stonks and crapto for getting rich.

>>513696404
ich wäre so gerne millionaire
ez clap

>>513682361
Why not just kill you instead

>>513683616
So you worked 10 years and put 75k per year in investments, a whole starter wage for a stem BA holder in California each year.
Why post when your party make no sense to anyone? If you live with your parents for 10 years and invest your whole wage really for 10 years you get a house-worth... for being a slave for 10 years?
The average person works for 75k and between debts and rent they don't even break even. Even with a trade the benefit is starting much earlier and lower debt

>>513687291
>my dad sucked the dick of a man who worked at Nintendo

>>513696667
without context niggers like this should have repercussions, in a free free country you eat shiit

>>513682131 (OP)
Correct. "Labor" is becoming more irrelevant with each passing day, in a few years AI and robotics will give it the killing blow

>>513688689
You're funking retarded, commit suicide.

>>513686914
You should be able to easily generate an annual return of 10% on your money. $5 million gets you $500k a year, which is more than enough to never have to work again.

>>513688689
Prices increase 2 times over 10 years
> you gotta save
That's slave talk. If your government doubles your costs it should burn, not every zoomer out there be told how to "starve smarter" or to have rich parents.
The average person in the US starts with less than 100k early wage and has to drop 50% of that in rent. It's almost like no one in this thread has friends...

>>513697013
haha tell this your kids when they bum toes and have some cope virus infection

>>513694479
He is. Those books boil down to "convince a bunch of rubes that they need your worthless trinket for 10x your costs and you'll get rich".
That's how the economy has worked for the last 20 years or so. Before that you could actually still make a good product and get the added value from customers. Now things have to be sold at a loss vs cost every time

>>513682131 (OP)
The way out of poverty involves illegal activity

>>513682131 (OP)
I'm completely lost and don't want to make a thread about it.
I'm 23, really autistic like the sperg kind. Socially maladjusted from many years of doing nothing. Haven't had friends for over 10 years. I'm NEETing at home with $0 to my name, barely ever go outside. I have had no desire to participate in society since I was little. No education outside of a high school diploma.

Yesterday I discovered I had 3 grey hairs on my head. It just kind of hit then that I'm not a child anymore, I'm not 15, I'm five years into adulthood with nothing. I wanted to maybe one day live by myself and have a family, I don't know how. Every available position seems like it won't give me enough money to live, all of them are dead end wagie jobs with no future that I know I won't succeed at.

I tried looking into college, everyone said it's impossible to find work in the only field I care about. I'm looking at trades and it seems like a lot of them require physical ability. I'm female, it seems like a bad course to take if I want children, although I'm not entirely discounting the idea.
I don't know. It seems impossible to get what's needed to live, so I'm in a rut of not even trying to start. I don't want to be stuck at retail my whole life. There's no opportunities, the economy is shit, I'll never own a home no matter what I do, even if I have children they'll end up being pozzed minorities in their own country.
Every time I think "maybe I should go look for a path in life" I see a ton of demoralizing bullshit from people who actually tried that path and it didn't work out. Then I go back to shitposting since it feels hopeless. I hate my life. I hate jews for making it impossible to make a living. I hate feminists for thinking making women work was the path to freedom. I hate trannies for ruining even the fiction I used to cope. I hate everyone but the hate has turned into sheer exhaustion with everything I see and hear. And I especially hate my own failure to thrive.

>>513696231
You're broke

sad that iam so happy withmyself

>>513696833
Uhuh

>>513697075
You gotta heist.

>>513697251

/thread

100%

>>513697287
move countries because it will force you to sink or swim. Look into the Russia traditional values visa. English teachers can make $2000-$3000 a month there which isn’t that much in the states, but that’s comparable to making $11,000 here.

>>513682361
> just waste the best years of your life when you should be out experiencing the world and finding a wife
> you can enjoy your 30s when you're old as fuck and in steep physical and mental decline

>>513696919

kek they have been saying this since the ox and plough.

>>513697713
Right now the nighters life strategy is basically the only logical option. Drop inhibitions, leech, look good, get your dick wet. Trying to build some kind of rational future will only get you robbed and insulted.
That's not to say you shouldn't hone a skill though.

>>513698265
Nigger love strategy*

>>513698292
Nigger life strategy*

>>513682131 (OP)
It is possible, I know people who got rich on stock market or even made their own companies starting from money they made by working. But they all were inteligent and put a lot of work into their endeavours, were good in school and worked/learned a lot sacrificing pleasures to get where their are.

If you are lazy, hate work, and have zero skill you are not going to make it.

I on the other had am lazy and never knew what I wanted to do, but my parents were forcing me to learn so I finished good schools and have a fairly good job in corporation. But it also took me a lot of work that I hated. So I will not be richer than that because I hate work. And I tried stock market - it is a lot of work and time to get good at it. So of course being lazy bum I failed.

>>513699727
>put a lot of work
Shut the fuck up just SHUT THE FUCK UP