Thread 513711255

Why nether EU nor NATO accepted Russia when its asked? It would be the only new member that is actually useful and can bring economical benefits and military power. What is the benefit of taking all the economically dependent post-soviet satellites, culturally completely the same but more corrupt and poor, but ignoring Russia?

>>513711255 (OP)
>Why nether EU nor NATO accepted Russia when its asked?
because russia is in asia, not europe or the north atlantic.

>>513711255 (OP)
Russia never applied to join the EU or NATO, and they wouldn't be allowed in the EU anyway because you need to make your country more democratic and Putin's not interested in that.

>>513711255 (OP)
Oy vey where application for admission blyat?

They would be using us now against China like they are using hohols against us, snatching dudes off the street for an unwinnable war.

>>513711255 (OP)
>the guy that keep killing his rivals and steal public fundings is denied nato/eu membership
nah its just russophobia n'shieeet

>>513711479
and what about the countries around Russia?

>democratic
sounds funny, EU is literally punishing pluralism of opinions among its members. That was probably the only reason not to take Russia, because of the disagreement risks. How is that actually democratic. Who voted for von der leyen?

>>513711735
Sounds like Romania/France/Germany

>>513711255 (OP)
because you won't stop sucking chabad lubavitch cock
>>513711568

>>513711735
and what about the Assange case? How is it not the same as happening in Russia with Putin's rivals?

>>513711900
Because the terms of the EU say you should respect certain values like democratic institutions, rule of law, and free markets, and if you don't like it you can always leave.

>>513712661
>and if you don't like it you can always leave.
bong, it's literally illegal to have a referendum on our EU membership because (((muh international treaty)))
same goes for nato membership

>>513712910
That sounds like bullshit.

>>513712661
That is exactly what russia is promoting in legislation and politics. Where is contradiction here?

>>513711255 (OP)
Because RF in NATO would mean RF to be stripped from all its nukes and be disarmed.
RF will not do it.

>>513713177
Why? The same rule as France and Britain, they have plenty nukes.

>>513712661
>free markets
The EU only exists to be a protectionist trading racket to compete with the US.

>>513711255 (OP)
The west need an enemy so they can fail miserably at rallying the people to fight it

>>513713003
https://www.parlament.hu/documents/125505/138409/Fundamental+law/
page 19

>>513711255 (OP)
>What is the benefit
divide and conquer

>>513711255 (OP)
Because then how are they going to organize the death and destruction of white people and their eventual replacement by jeets? Putin and Zelensky and the other leaders are making sure this war is a stalemate and that as many whites as possible get killed. What reason is there for this war to not have been over with long ago other than intentional sabotage on both sides to make sure neither side can win?

>>513711613
You are treacherous bastards. So you deserve it.
Betryed yourself, your own history, merit, culture . Sold out your soul for money.

The curse of the Russian man is the Russian state. Millions of Russians have realized that and have fled RF . and many more millions will do it.

>>513712661
it's literally just about fags and trannies and nothing else
muh "democracy" is just code for child grooming and man-on-man anal sex

>>513713399
but if your enemy asks you to join doesn't it mean victory? EU just does not have mechanism to accommodate different opinions

Gulaghomo is gay and retarded

mic needs a threat to make money

I think Putin said in his interview with Oliver Stone he believe US needs a boogie man to blame things on.

The most recent example being when Trump ran. They immediately created the Russia Dossier. Don't vote Trump because boogie man controls him, they said.

>>513713265
The rules can not be the same for the new comers vs the old comers.
NATO 's goal is to keep the colonies of GAE defenseless so they can not leave NATO and pose any threat to the order of the empire. Neither in or out of NATO.

>>513711255 (OP)
Because it's corrupted mafia state, ran by president el jefe for life.

>>513713392
I dont get it what am I supposed to be looking at?

>>513712661
>>513713816

This. Russia would have to institute a lot of reforms to be able to join EU and NATO. We don't want aggressive corrupt mafia dictatorships.

>b-but in EU you can't criticize mass immigration and fags

Yes, that's bullshit and should be changed. But admitting an aggressive corrupt mafia dictatorship into EU is not the solution.

>>513713937
sub points of article 8 (3)
>No national referendum may be held on

>>513713816
Unlike Ukraine, Baltics or Bulgaria. I actually think the opposite, Russia was not accepted because it is not that corrupt, and some money transfers would not make it blindly follow the orders, but to contest them if people do not agree. This was probably not viewed as desirable by the democratic EU.

>>513714107
don't tell me russia is more corrupt that some current eu members, that's bullshit

>>513714183
Yes retard, which sub point says its illegal to hold a referendum on EU membership?

>>513711255 (OP)
kys
russia is slated to be taken down and splintered into pieces per globohomo
Vladimir threw a major monkey wrench into this plan
and now that plan will not happen
death to globalists

>>513714345

Russia is more corrupt and more totalitarian than all of the EU members.

>>513714228
>Russia was not accepted because it is not that corrupt
AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, in the 90s oligarchs were stealing money and everything from the state and sending it offshore and when Yeltsin took billions of loans from IMF because the state had no money that loan was also stolen and sent offshore, you don't know shit you retarded subhuman

>>513711255 (OP)
Have you seen tihis gook smilining like its not smigoul at amerians goldnineggers wil nigg. Thus are russiqns . Im not even pigger.

>>513711479
putin asks some nato guy about joining, they disrespected him by saying make an application.
This whole ukraine mess could have easily been avoided.
>but muh due process
Fuck off nobody cares

>>513714501
sounds like Ukraine nowdays, except people were not slaughtered, just resources were stolen by the west. Instead of stealing could have had accepted it as a member and benefit from the resources legally.

>>513714791
>muh resources
Only people who stole your resources are your oligarchs protected by Yeltsin and Putin

>>513714501
hell of a way to put the jewish raping of USSR

>>513714349
referendums about EU membership have been rejected on the basis of both b) and d)
referendums about NATO membership have been rejected on the basis of b) d) and i)

bonus: a referendum about men having the same retirement options as women was rejected on the basis of a) and d)
we're constitutionally second class citizens compared to foids
thanks orbán

>>513714898
you seem very mad.
Government employee or ukranian draft dodger?
Or just a spastic?

1/ they never asked
2/ the entire point of nato is to defend countries against russia

>>513714228
Ukraine is not in EU nor NATO. Baltics are surprisingly little corrupted, esp Estonia, considering they have Russian taint on them. I have no idea about Bulgaria. In any case none of EU members come even close to the amount of corruption and completely arbitrary mafia rule instead of rule of law, as Russia is.

>>513715268
He's right though. Ask yourself why Russia is such a giant shithole invading its neighbors despite having infinite natural resources.
Also ask yourself why Israel supports Russia.

>>513715244
So that's your own countries problem, not the EU
EU treaty has a clause about leaving

>>513715365
your politicians are flooding the country with niggers and you think they're not as corrupt as le russians lmao

>>513715421
tl;dw: *WE* can't leave the EU, the regime can leave it

>>513711255 (OP)
Because in 1991, the US hegemony seemed total, and NATO (a defensive alliance which has never fought a defensive war in its existence) needed a Boogeyman to justify its existence.
It was also much more interesting to deal with ressource rich Russia as another Congo.

>>513715538
You are completely wrong, current government has done exactly the opposite. They also closed our border with Russia when they started to send niggers to border. We are not even accepting asylum applications anymore. Watch little less RT and come to real world.

Keep ruskies away its not even trust me bro tier. This are white niggers . Or llike ex stanlikig. Never angage. Otdangd men never learn.

>>513715751
Unless they close the gate completely and deport it's nothing that cannot change after the next election, or in a couple of years when public attention is diverted elsewhere anon

>>513715751
>Watch little less RT and come to real world.
hahahahahaha its hilarious when a cucked euroid says shit like this
globohomo owns enough of your mind, you should return to plebbit and stay with the like minded

Because the Cold War never ended

>>513716068
Those high numbers are Ukrainians. Atleast 100k Ukies are in Finland now, thanks to Russian attack war against their home country.

>>513714659
>disrespected him by saying make an application
>but muh due process
Nigger.

>>513717776
It would explain the higher numbers ever since 2022 sure, it is still a trend, numbers go slowly up, nowhere in western Europe has immigration started as a flood.

>>513715400
Ask youself why france and britain are shitholes invading other countries, controlled by jews.
>>513718479
Faggot

>>513711255 (OP)
Because they exist solely to antagonize it, of course. They cannot stand Russians.

>>513711255 (OP)
Anglo-Saxons wouldn't allow it, they would even go to war just to prevent this.

>>513711461
Europe extends to the Ural mountains. A large part of Russia, the most densely populated, is in Europe.
The British Isles however...

>>513720974

>Anglo-Saxons

This is the funniest vatnik meme. xDDDdddddDDdd

What's next? Warning against the Norman invasion?

>>513716023

This. White niggers do not belong into NATO or EU.

>>513721426
>White niggers do not belong into NATO or EU
I wouldn't be too sure about that

>>513711255 (OP)
>russia can flatten eu if we wanted to
>but we wont so please accept us in
>we'll nuke you
>okay but we wont
>let's make peace
>let's not though
why the fuck is my country acting like a bipolar 15 year old girl? this shit is embarrassing on so many levels i genuinely stopped going on here and reading any sort of news due to how annoying the constant blue balling is. cтpaнa oбижeнкa кaкaя-тo блeять

>>513721885
Maybe Russia is tsundere

>>513711255 (OP)
because russia and their bolshevik asiatic horde is pure evil since forever

>>513711255 (OP)
they would need to have stabilised border with no disputes, between japan, ukraine, georgia, chechenya, china... Volodya is doing all he can but it's gonna take another 100 years mininun

>>513722059
alright picturing russia as a tsundere is kind of cute. makes this situation a little better

corruption

>>513722222
checked

>>513711255 (OP)
Because Russias leadership wasnt controlled puppets like the rest of Europe. Soo too unpredictable.

>>513711479
>you need to make your country more democratic
kek what
we almost let in erdogan
in fact turkey has the benefits of the EU (sending moderate syrians) without having to contribute to the blackfund that is the eurotax system

>>513722222
Blessed digits