Thread 513711797

You bitch about gun laws in California or Europe, but you have no idea what a truly disarmed society looks like. As a native, I'm reporting from the bottom of the rabbit hole. This is the globehomo endgame.
First off, no handguns. No AR-15s.The only things you can even apply for are basic shotguns and hunting rifles. Self-defense is NOT a valid reason.
To get one, you have to attend an all-day government class and pass a written test. Just to get the paperwork started.
Then, you need a doctor to sign off on your mental health. So the state gets to decide if you're "sane" enough to own a weapon.
Then, the cops do a full background check. They don't just check your record. They literally interview your family, your coworkers, and your neighbors. They check your finances, your personal life. Your weird neighbor who hates you could torpedo your chances.
After ALL that, you have to pass a shooting test at the range.
If you make it through, you have to store the gun and the ammo in separate, locked safes, bolted to the wall. The cops come to your house to inspect it.
The license only lasts 3 years. Then you do the whole fucking process again.
And the kicker? If you fire your weapon in a public place—even if you don't hit anyone—you can get a life sentence.
This is the future they want for us. A population that's 100% dependent on the state for protection and can't fight back. Japan has almost no gun crime, sure, but they've traded their soul for it.

Should've won the war

>>513711797 (OP)
Yeah but up until recently you had no niggers, spics, jeets, etc and lived in the best first world country in the (((modern))) world. I lived in northern Japan for 4 years it was paradise compared to the USA. You were truly the only country that didnt need guns...until now ofc.

>>513711797 (OP)
this works in japan because you have a relatively high trust society with reasonable demographic homogeneity. not to "HI IM MURICA LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT YUOR CUNTRY", but these are objectively true.

the reason gun restrictions don't work in america is because we have a stark inverse of your situation: we have no homogeneity, we have free access right across the border of retard states, and no one trusts one another at all. so you get groids shooting one another over stupid shit, which inflates gun crime stats, which makes it an "issue", so on and so forth. only those willing to break the law are able to get guns, or they legally acquire them in another state and bring them back to their retard state to use in criminal activity.

>>513711921
The country obsessed with guns just passed a law banning us from having them

>>513711797 (OP)
I used to speculate that the Kyoani arson incident was orchestrated to make buying even gasoline for molotov coctails more difficult.

>>513711797 (OP)
>0.3 guns per 100 residents
I don't believe the law is the problem
you clearly don't want them
thus, there is no impetus to change the law

>>513711797 (OP)
All the best airsoft guns are from Japan, so at least you have that. I got a S&W Model 19 from there years ago. It was nice.

>>513711797 (OP)
It will stimulate underground markets for firearms, ghost guns are already gaining popularity

>>513711797 (OP)
And now they're going to let in a jillion niggers and jeets and all most people will be able to do is fucking watch as everything burns down

>>513711797 (OP)
Haha, isnt it funny? The state will make it near impossible to own a gun, until its about the states interest. Then you will run in circles for a few months and they will teach you how to use proper rifles and everything else.

>>513711797 (OP)
Since when does an average nippoid care about human things? Shouldn't you be working harder?

>>513714181
>It will stimulate underground markets for firearms, ghost guns are already gaining popularity
ignorant mutt
ammo casings and primers are regulated

>>513717184
>ammo casings and primers are regulated
What century tech is necessary to make those? Is it earlier or later tech than 3d printers? Asking for a friend.

>>513717305
good luck annealing brass at home
best bet is to nigger-rig older from old ammo or just reload

>>513717305
>What century tech is necessary to make those? Is it earlier or later tech than 3d printers? Asking for a friend.
everything you make at home will be shitty. you can't make reliable ammo casings at home even if its late 19th century technology. primers are the hardest part and while you can reload USED ones, it's not reliable (trust me, I tried)

>>513717487
>good luck annealing brass at home
>>513717517
>everything you make at home will be shitty
The first gun I made was about as crude as my 100+ year old pump action .22. I have improved considerably since then.
Barrels are difficult to do well, but brass casings aren't at all difficult. They are, however, much more expensive than just buying a bag of premade ones.
If you can't get the annealing process down, consider a bigger extractor so you don't just rip off the rim.

>>513711797 (OP)
almost the same here anon. very very close. they are very close to banning semi autos and pump action shotties. fucking disgraceful

>>513717305
it's so easy that you got a memeflag sicced on you to discourage you from finding out how.
every redneck in the country has a reloader. they've been even easier to find and get parts for since democrats had the bright idea of strangling ammo supplies in an elastic market.
japan just doesn't want them. I feel bad for that extreme minority that wants them but I understand why they don't have much influence over the culture or the law.

>>513718370
you act like gun control isn't spreading in the US
California, Illinois, New York
all of these are quite rich and populated
people in Texas will look at Cali and say "I WANT THAT"
the tyranny is spreading
why don't you go and kill the ones responsible? political domestic terrorism is the only choice

>>513717890
>The first gun I made was about as crude as my 100+ year old pump action .22. I have improved considerably since then.
>Barrels are difficult to do well, but brass casings aren't at all difficult. They are, however, much more expensive than just buying a bag of premade ones.
>If you can't get the annealing process down, consider a bigger extractor so you don't just rip off the rim.
well post your progress since it's legal in the US
again, how will you produce primers? anything self-loading requires a primer

>>513714766
This. Just make your own. And to the faggots whining about
>BUT THE PRIMERS AND THE CASINGS!!!!!!
This nip used an electric detonation system, and so can you.

>>513718494
its actually getting better. look at how conceal and constitutional carry laws have become better over time. those faggy liberal states can do what the fuck they want, though are right about states that are getting invaded by those same faggy liberals. we'll see.

>>513711797 (OP)
HI HOW ARE YA

>>513718670
ok smarty pants, let's see how you fare against um... the FUCKING MILITARY, POLICE and the national guard with a single shot electrically primed black powder smoothbore pistol
>>513718704
they still aren't doing shit. the concept of using a gun against the government is inherently flawed, it's one of the gun market agendas to keep the civilian arms race going and sell more guns. 20 of 51 states already have quite tyrannical gun laws that tamper on the law abiding citizens ability to get a gun, but at the same time getting a gun illegally is easy because there's virtually no gun control with 80% lowers

>>513718573
>again, how will you produce primers?
The old fashioned way. Lead based explosive as an initiator. If you really did try and fail, you probably did the "go back in time and grab match heads from old strike anywhere matches that are made differently today" technique. But without going back in time. So you failed.
Cup and anvil are easy to mass produce especially if you're already casting projectiles.

>>513718859
how can one retard be so wrong about everything in one post? incredible

>>513711921
Modern gun laws are actually inspired by Meiji era restrictions I believe, so it would not have changed anything.

>>513719034
nigger tell me what's wrong

>>513718670
>and so can you.
for what?
you really encouraging others to make a weapon and assassinate someone?

>>513719034
That's because he glows

>>513719180
>you really encouraging others to make a weapon and assassinate someone?
yes that's the point
their endgame is domestic political terrorism on those doing unfreedom decisions
>>513719245
yeah because you assume that no one holds the same beliefs as me among americans so you discredit yourself by stating that I glow

>>513719306
>no one holds the same beliefs as me among americans
Never said that I'm sure other feds do

>>513718494
>you act like gun control isn't spreading in the US
that's correct
dozens of states have walked back their restrictions
half a dozen supreme court decisions have gone in my favor
gun control is a dead issue and all you can do is demoralize in the hopes some lurker gets dissuaded from exercising his rights
fuck you and fuck your conspiracy against my rights

>>513711797 (OP)
Jesus Christ that's a lot of text

>>513719155
>nigger tell me what's wrong
The US dropped Liberator pistols on France during ww2. It was single shot and it took quite some time to reload. Having a concealable weapon like that required occupying troops to at least double up, which cut their force in half. Any attempts in not using the buddy system could end with a dead soldier and one more rifle plus ammo being in the hands of the resistance.

You only need one shot to end up with a good gun.

>>513711797 (OP)
It's practically the exact same in Britain and I fucking hate it. Bare minimum I at least want to engage in guns as a hobby but I can't even do that since the legality of it adds extra costs of getting a gun safe and a license.

>>513719155
our government is terrified of the people
you merely have to look at the difference in covid restrictions between a place like arizona vs. a disarmed place like new york or southern europe
the people have a check on the government, that is not theoretical, it's visible in our laws (and more often, the absence of them)

>>513719460
it's fine if you think that way. it may not be today or in the next 5 years but the tendency is there. the globalist progressive eurocratic cabal dystopia is spreading naturally and it's good.
>>513719620
so the japanese should assemble a guerilla warfare militia and go do shit? why didn't it happen yet?
>>513719681
>our government is terrified of the people
sure

>>513719627
I have guns laying all around my house

>>513719306
the endgame is a safer, freer society

>>513719779
>should
I'm not here to demand the Japanese take action. If they find solace in their ownership, I am not morally bound to force them to be free.

>>513719779
>you think
I know.
dozens of states have walked back their restrictions
half a dozen supreme court decisions have gone in my favor
gun control is a dead issue and all you can do is demoralize in the hopes some lurker gets dissuaded from exercising his rights
fuck you and fuck your conspiracy against my rights

>>513718859
>UHM, UR GUNS ARE GONNA BE USELESS IN A REVOLUTION!!!
Who said anything about a revolution? Besides, smoothbore black powder guns is how Burmese rebels got their hands on military arms, so you're wrong either way.
>>513719180
>are you encourag-
Shut up fed. I'm not implying anything.

>>513719884
>>513719963
>>513719986
you act like you are somehow different.
humans naturally tend to offload the practice of protecting their rights with firearms to the state. it's the case for 99.9% countries in the world except America because you're still stuck in the wild west and have the gun market lobbying your laws.

>>513712089
>You were truly the only country that didnt need guns
That's how I felt growing up in the 90's and 2000's. Now I'm an advocate for conceal carry flamethrowers and grenade launchers.

>>513720165
>humans naturally tend to offload the practice of protecting their rights with firearms to the state.
I'd love to read that peer reviewed paper. It would end the nature vs nurture debate once and for all.

>>513720302
look at the world around you. you are an exception, not a rule

>>513711797 (OP)
>as a native
Get off my land!

>>513720165
>you act like you are somehow different.
you bet we're different, nigger
spain and italy made it illegal to go for a walk
meanwhile in arizona the sheriffs told your glownigger friends to fuck off or they'd get shot
I accept your concession that guns make us safer
>>513720565
34.7 guns per person in canada
32.4 guns per person in finland
31.7 guns per person in iceland
even france and germany are pushing 20
you lost
you lost culturally
you lost technologically
you're losing legally
the man of the future is armed, it's simple darwinism

>>513711797 (OP)
>traded their soul for it
you lost me
youre still not getting it. laws dont prevent gun crime. your race and homogenity does. your culture from that does. if the US were 100% white european it would have the same gun crime as other white populations. America used to have almost no gun laws at all, at least for regular people. we brought guns to school for target range IN the school. there was very little crime. guess why
america used to be over 90% white. gun crime even in the early 1900 was mostly from niggers.

>>513720165
>humans naturally tend to offload the practice of protecting their rights with firearms to the state
No shit buddy, American revolutionaries saw the flaws in this way of thinking and wrote an article securing the people's ability to protect their own rights instead of relying on the state's protection.
And it's not lobbying by any company you stupid bastard, it's written into our constitution, it had nothing to do with "muh capitalism" or whatever stupid shit you're about to bring up next.

>>513720165
Also show flag, faggot.

>>513720708
>34.7 guns per person in canada
>32.4 guns per person in finland
>31.7 guns per person in iceland
no shit nigger
my country is armed too
I am not against legal guns, in fact I wouldn't be arguing here if I didn't like guns
I'm currently in the process of building an (rather illegal, handguns and building your own guns is illegal here) .380 self-loading pistol from sheet metal
all I want is to shoot innawoods like an american would.
>>513720764
the point is that you are an exception and you can't or don't even know why the law was put in place. those 30% gun ownership in europe are LEGAL guns in the hands of people who passed a mental health check and did some licensing work

>>513711797 (OP)
>gun laws
>lol

>>513711797 (OP)
Guns are from pussies.

>>513721293
>my country
fuck off larper
you failed

>>513721293
>the point is that you are an exception and you can't or don't even know why the law was put in place.
Are you retarded? Do you seriously think most Americans don't know why the 2nd amendment was created?
>hurr i wonder why dis article guaranteeing my right to own firearms after we shook off the control of a monarchy was created
Also, it's not a law, it's an article in our constitution.
SHOW FLAG, FAGGOT

>>513718370
reloading equipment still requires new casings and primers you retarded fuck, this is only viable in places where guns and ammunition are still legal you moron.

>>513718494
>>513719460
plus we got FRTs now and pistol braces.


the most popular rifle in the us is the AR 15

everyone who owns guns owns high cap mags now even fucking libtards.

>>513721771
>Are you retarded? Do you seriously think most Americans don't know why the 2nd amendment was created?
the gun market is writing fanfiction for you to justify your already existent high gun ownership.
>Also, it's not a law, it's an article in our constitution.
law, article? it's in place and that matters
all I'm trying to say that you should enjoy your guns while it lasts. a civil war or a separation of one of the states is inevitable. you will probably have to move from "tyranny" unless you already live in a deeply red state like Texas.

>>513722051
the majority of humans value safety more than freedom. this is why in any democracy guns will eventually be heavily regulated. cope, you don't have a democracy

>>513722051
Permit-less carry and open carry is getting passed in more and more states now as well.
Only 40 years ago you couldn't even carry a gun WITH a permit in my state, and now anyone can carry a gun without a permit.
Open carry is on the ballot this year too. That anon is fag who doesn't know what he's talking about.
>LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY

>>513721915
>reloading equipment still requires new casings
god damn retard that's the one thing it doesn't require
the rest is provided by 19th century era industries
the technology to kick start every single part of this process exists in the typical farm workshop
yes, including the primers
your failed

>>513722390
you already conceded that guns make people safer you dishonest little shit
see pics in these posts:
>>513719853
>>513719963
>>513720708
I can do this all day nigger

>>513711797 (OP)
It sucks but you still have a functioning society.
Better get those damn pajeets off your land

>>513722242
>its just da marketing bro... they lied about the 2nd amendment
Are you calling the American Revolution fanfiction? LOL. Show your flag you fucking 3rd world retard.

Jap up at this time? Doubt. Fuck off expat. Japs don't need commercial firearms to do what needs to be done.

>>513711797 (OP)
>you have no idea what a truly disarmed society looks like
Buddy, slingshots, shurikens and nunchucks are prohibited here. As for firearms, the law is made so that only the very rich can get a license. Thus, they pretend to be tolerant while disarming the middle class

>>513722573
>implying he's not a night owl
Also it's a saturday night, I doubt he has to go to work tomorrow

>>513722630
Que porqueria.
If you fuckers had a 2A like ours I would have fucked off from America and marry a nice gallega and make her the mother of my 4 kids

>>513722498
>>513722538
I'm afraid we're on the different parts of the spectrum and will never agree on anything

>>513717517
You can't do it, but illiterate rednecks did it for a living during the civil war with scarcely a fuckup to be had.
How odd.

>>513722768
We're not even arguing over anything of substance here, I keep calling you out on your bullshit lies, like the other anon.
You're a dishonest faggot and now you're trying to play the whole
>i guess we're just too different to agree on anything...
No, you're just too retarded. Kill yourself immediately.

>>513722768
you conceded that gun ownership makes people safer

>>513722630
In Spain, to get a gun license (only valid for hunting or sport shooting), you need, besides passing the exams:
>Pay a one-time fee of 15.000€
>Pay an annual renewal of the license (2.000€ per year)
>Have a "padrino" (i. e., someone with a gun permit, and belonging to a hunting or shooting club that "approves your aptitude for gun ownership").
>Belonging to a hunting or shooting club (there is no fixed price, but it usually costs around 10,000€ per year)
And even with all of them, having ammunition at home is forbidden (in fact, it's a crime)

>>513722914
an intelligent anon could make a flintlock and black powder without problems. The problem is making a semiauto using smokeless powder.

>>513722736
>>513723091
Your ancestors could see that in the future tyrannies would return; ours sowed the seed for it

>>513722914
If he had anything inside his head he'd realize you can make a primer very easily. It's a very simple metal stamping with a compound that can create a flash fire.
You could use match heads, firework compositions, those little caps from cap guns.

>>513723091
something similar here but you can keep ammo at home, but it is forbidden to keep loaded weapon. police can go to your home unannounced and checking on you how you keep your weapons

>>513711797 (OP)
Wasn't japan like that even under the shogunate? Swords and blades were forbidden except for the government.

>>513723171
All you need is a metal lathe to make a blowback operated gun. It's really not that hard, Australians do it all the time.

>>513723091
just buy a crossbow from france or any other EU state where they are legal. Just make sure that Correos doesn't ship it or they might call the police on you. If you want a legal gun, just get the black powder license, you can shoot something like a Colt Navy without any exams and yo>>513723091
u don't need a locker for it.

>>513722944
>>513722956
guns don't make people safer. I chose to ignore your images because calling you out on it will enhance the conflict between us.
a single guy with a cheap 400$ AR can easily massacre a grocery store and cause the police to call 20 local PDs with bearcats and stuff
>>513723222
go ahead, make one. I can even give a good link on it:
https://aardvarkreloading.com/resources/Homemade%20Primer%20Course%202021-06-01.pdf
written by an american PhD, go read it.
come back to me when you make 50 rounds of 9mm FMJs (let's make it simple, LRNs, not FMJs) that will work as good as factory ammo.
make the casings, make the primers, it's easy right? any redneck with a farm shop can make it, right?

>>513711921
Was ww1 fought the same way as the civil war? No. When the Brits walked in a straight line did the Americans do the same thing or say fuck this shit and guerilla fuck em up? Was Ww2 fought the same way as Ww1? So, do you think ww3 will be fought the same way as ww2? What is directed electromagnetic frequency technology

>>513723171
It's possible to make a percussion cap magazine that slots caps onto the pin with firing, resistive gravity feeding might do if the mag is smooth enough.
Then you use a repeating lever to load the next powder-bullet package from below.
Maybe a repeating lever can double-act, so it loads the cap too.
Shouldn't be too difficult to machine. Reliability may be a concern but a repeating musket beats a musket that doesn't repeat.

>>513711797 (OP)
I'd trade anything to live in a nigger-free place

>>513719620
I say something similar to the boys. “You can turn a big fucking rock into a pistol, and then turn the pistol into a rifle.”

>>513711797 (OP)
Shut the fuck up you weak faggot. if you care about the law you don't deserve to have a gun and you damn sure wouldn't shoot anybody with it anyway.

>>513723222
Checked
Magnesium in fine powdered form, and a hammer
Can't beat the classics

>>513719155
i already did - everything

>>513723091
>Have a "padrino"
That's the only step to own a gun in Sicily or Calabria

>>513723431
>IF IT DOESNT OPERATE EXACTLY LIKE FACTORY MADE AMMO IT'S USELESS!!!!
You are a pedantic faggot and I truly wish you would put a bullet through your own head.
Show flag

>>513719779
>the tendency is there
no, its not. thats the point. you're wrong. oh the democrats would love to ban everything of course, but they cant because state rights so fuck them and fuck the fucking UN too.

>>513711797 (OP)
Japan anon, calm down.
We have almost the exact same laws as you. You’re making it sound worse than it is.

Get your license, renew it every three years. It’s not hard.

>>513711921
Before guns were invented was illegal for Japanese civilians to own swords. They have always been authoritarian to the max.

>>513723337
the problem is not the gun itself, it's the powder. Any retard can 3d print a FGC-9, the problem is the ammo. If you are smart you can get smokeless powder from nail guns cartridges, the problem is getting the primer. It's not hard to buy shotgun casing with primer, but rifle and pistol primer is heavily regulated in Europe.

>>513711797 (OP)
This is a straight up non-issue. As demonstrated by numerous annons in this thread and throughout history, being armed is a state of mind and spirit.

>>513711797 (OP)
But you have martial arts. You're not a gaijin English teacher are you?

>>513723431
> I chose to ignore your images
that explains why you aren't aware that guns make people safer.
for people who aren't oddly proud of their ignorance, I'll refer them to these charts showing a clear negative correlation between gun ownership and homicide both within america and worldwide:
>>513719853
>>513719963
>>513720708
>>513722498
remember, guns make people safer.

>>513723218
Sadly my great grandpa was part of the generation that allowed Woodrow Wilson to get into the white house and pass all the vile shit like the 19th and the Federal Reverse

>>513711797 (OP)
> If you fire your weapon in a public place—even if you don't hit anyone—you can get a life sentence
No fucking shit Sherlock?
I don’t want you popping off rounds when I’m on my Tokyo holiday. You can still use it in public places for APPROVED REASONS, but obviously discharging in a populated area is a big no no.

If you’re too retarded to understand this then you’re too retarded to own a gun anyway.
At least you have guns at all..?

>>513722242
>the gun market is writing fanfiction
see, you're wrong again. nothing to do with big business, you fucking commie. its the constitution and bill of rights. its inherent rights granted by God, something Europe and the Anglo colonies reject completely because they are faggots.

>be criminal
>acquire gun
>get caught without gun = prison time
>get caught without gun = prison time
hmmm. yes very smart. this gun law will help the authorities fight those evil criminals.

>>513711797 (OP)
You sound like exactly the type of person the laws are meant to stop if im being honest
>cant understand why it’s illegal to shoot shit in public
tf is the matter with you

>>513723598
>You are a pedantic faggot and I truly wish you would put a bullet through your own head.
>Show flag
okay, what reliability are we talking about then? 1 misfire in 20?
make 50 rds of LRN 9mm.
how much time it will take? will you be able to outpace the government in production?

>>513723814
>>513723899
So what do you do if you're being mugged in a public area?
Kneel down and suck the mugger's dick?
I'd shoot the fucker, I'll deal with the jury later

>>513722390
Firearms make people safer

>>513711797 (OP)
My friend had an exchange worker from japan work at his hospital for a while and the first thing he wanted to do was go to a shooting range. He also gained 20 pounds eating barbecue nearly every day. Fun little guy. I wish Japan was more open to gun rights and general civil liberties for its people.

>>513723765
"The gun is a tool. You are the weapon."
Weak weapons always try to ban the tool as if that brings stronger weapons down to their level.
They're the sort of people who would ban the sun to prevent sunburn.

>>513723912
I'll make it only if you use it to blow your brains out.
Show flag.

>>513711797 (OP)
>beta gook coper
vs
>>513714766
>chad nip blunderbuss builder

>>513723992
> So what do you do if you're being mugged in a public area?
You refuse to give any of your belongings up. Record the interaction, and walk away.
>I'd shoot the fucker, I'll deal with the jury later
If they draw a weapon, and attempt to charge at you with it then most places will exempt you from defending yourself. Just try to record it for court if possible, and do it as a last resort only if your life is in danger. That’s the answer.

>>513723765
great comment

>>513724086
gladly. just tell me how exactly you're going to make 9mm casings and primer cups. how much time will it take?

explosives are somewhat easier to make from fertilizers and even from acetone, also more stealth than guns
and if you add drones to the mix, you have a very good weapon, more destructive than any assault rifle

>>513724141
>u-u-uhmm.... sorry mr. crackhead, these are my belongings and you can't have the- ACK!
>Australian man stabbed 187 times after refusing to give his laptop bag to a psychotic tweaker

>>513723912
>will you be able to outpace the government in production?
what a stupid question
yes, the citizens of a country can outproduce the government in any good
do you think the government owns ammo manufacturers and every farm shop with a press?

>>513724234
It'll take as long as it takes for you to show your flag (never)

>>513723912
> will you be able to outpace the government in production?
Glowie san if the government (or any other government) is producing ammo, there will be something called the black market.

>>513711797 (OP)
Didn't hidikeo kojima make a shotgun to shoot shinzo abe?

>>513724141
>sir, sir, I am recording this sir-
>hey that's my phone!
this is why violent crime rates are higher in countries with lower civilian firearm ownership

>>513723992
I’m not gonna kill a mugger for trying to take my wallet but im not gonna give him my wallet either, and if he pulls a blade or a gun then it’s gloves off
>>513724247
>u-u-uhmm.... sorry mr. crackhead, these are my belongings and you can't have the- ACK!
You don’t talk to them loser. You sternly say no and that is it. You back away and if they follow or produce a weapon, that is when you draw a more overpowered weapon and finish it.
They don’t get a chance to stab you, and you have all the evidence you need for court that they tried.

>>513724060
>They're the sort of people who would ban the sun to prevent sunburn.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/02/climate/sun-shade-climate-geoengineering.html

>>513711797 (OP)
I like how you have all this and the former PM still gets wasted by a makeshift gun.

>>513724399
You don’t record with your phone, you use a hands free recording device and you don’t even tell them that it’s recording
You say nothing except for fuck off

>>513724404
>that is when you draw a more overpowered weapon and finish it.
Like a gun, right?

>>513724328
No that was the madman called Samiko Hideo

>>513724399
>crackhead approaches
>BWC switched on
>”hey mannn can I have $20”
>”fuck off, no cunt”
>crackhead pulls knife and runs at you
>you are now legally allowed to kill the crackhead using any means necessary

>>513724492
Yeah whatever you legally have at the time on you you can use

>>513724234
it takes a negligible amount of time with materials readily available in tens of millions of farm shops, as you know
don't forget to show your flag

>>513724578
>That's not a knife, that's a noife, mate

>>513724492
then you get to give the BWC to the judge and no jail time
Crackhead dies, court has their evidence, you get to go home to ur family
Everyone wins
>>513724672
fkn oath

>>513722390
Nice bait.

>>513724476
why would I carry a single use tool like a hands free recording device that will probably get stolen, when I could carry a practical tool like a gun with many diverse uses that will provide its own security against violent crime?
I'll refer you to the leftmost column on this chart >>513723778

>>513724578
>>513724616
>any means necessary
then I will use the most appropriate tool for the job, a gun

>>513721771
He's just a troll with live bait dude. If he shows up at your house, shoot him.

The laws will keep getting more outrageous unless we stand up for ourselves

>>513723431
You are, so wrong. I’m sorry. You have no idea how easy it is to make a functioning firearm and it shows.
I’m just so sorry. I can’t even be fucked arguing the points but you are completely incorrect about everything.

>>513725039
> why would I carry a single use tool like a hands free recording device that will probably get stolen, when I could carry a practical tool like a gun with many diverse uses that will provide its own security against violent crime?
Why don’t we have both
> then I will use the most appropriate tool for the job, a gun
ok that is fine with me

>>513711797 (OP)
Japan has never had private weapon ownership. Weapons are for the samurai

>>513725276
>You have no idea how easy it is to make a functioning firearm and it shows.
make 9mm casings and primers and come back
FGC-9 or an Urutau is easy to make

>>513711797 (OP)
At least you don't have gangs of feral nigger cartels.

I shot a glacier.

>>513725342
>Why don’t we have both
sounds impractical
where are you going to put the power supply?
the gun's enough, see >>513719853

>>513724141
>I would simply not give them my things. It is illegal for them to take my things without my permission. They will understand and accompany me to the police officer station.

>>513725641
Bro batteries exist lol

>>513711797 (OP)
>Japan a country of 130 million
>has les homicides yearly than Chicago
Living in a Mono-Ethnic Country has its perks.

>>513725683
Lol

>>513723419
Too dangerous. Having a crossbow is not a crime, but it is prohibited, the fine ranges from 60,000 to 600,000 euros, and the crossbow is confiscated. It is not worth it

>>513725417
While this dude is busy sperging out...


Why wants to learn how to make 5.56 projectiles out of .22lr brass

>>513725918
Get a fuckin exemption, move country, or get a bow
faaark

>>513725918
Carry a rapier like a real hidalgo

>>513725918
>Not a crime to have one, you are just punished by the state for having one and they take it from you.

Uhh, I got news for you my guy

>>513725829
that was already explicitly stated in my question
I asked you where you're going to put it
body cam batteries tend to be bulky
a hidden cam like you're suggesting would have to be wired to an independent power supply
your plan is sounding more impractical by the moment
better to just carry the defensive tool if you insist on living amongst criminals

> retards arguing over what toys their owners allow them to buy
lol

>>513725918
buying a crossbow without a license is not even a crime itself. The legal way of buying a crossbow in spain is buying it illegally, then sending it to an armory to get a serial number imprinted on it and then you register it legally in the police station. There's almost zero risk buying a crossbow from an EU country, I have even seen people selling them in Wallapop.

>>513726254
What could be said of someone who willingly joins a group of retard ?
I would say that he is in good company

>>513726189
By "crime" I mean that it is not punishable by imprisonment (unlike firearms possession). But yes, I'd rather end up in prison for a couple of years than pay a fine for the rest of my life

>>513711797 (OP)
>this
Israel is not that far in term of gunlaws,
Self defence is only valid in certain regions,
You need to pass a bunch of criteria to even get one, and the only way to get a gun without government approval here is literally illegal

>>513726214
They’re not bulky at all you can get one that’ll run for 3-7 hours and is 100 grams total. 13 x 8 x 3 cm product dimensions.

>>513725641
We have tiny boblov body cameras at work (bouncer), they just slip into your pocket and stick out a little. Battery lasts like 6 hours or something.

Honestly makes sense to be wearing some shit like that most of the time just like having a dash cam in your car.

>>513726281
Anon, I am a lawyer and I know what I am talking about. You can't register an illegally purchased gun. Crossbow possession is not a crime fortunately because there is a loophole in the law that our lazy tyrants have not bothered to fix. But it is still an administrative infraction. The only way to legally own a crossbow is with a "type F license", and oddly enough it is even harder to obtain than firearms licenses

>>513726355
>joins
lmao

>>513726281
Are you serious? Honest question.

>>513726641
Is airsoft guns allowed at all in Spain?

>>513726503
>>513726577
a mugger will find this
and anon specifically said he was running at you with a knife
just use your gun ffs

>>513711921
Japan actually had laws like this historically preventing peasants from owning weapons.

>>513726882
the fuck do you mean a mugger will find this, im not gonna let a mugger touch me mate
the fuck you mean theyll find it lmao

U are cracked

>>513726577
don’t try to reason with him I think he’s drunk or some shit

>>513726882
>a mugger will find this
LMFAO mate the point is to not let him fucking mug you and to have proof that he tried to.
>and anon specifically said he was running at you with a knife
Then fucking shoot the cunt.

>>513726641
a crossbow will defeat body armor that is designed for pistols, assuming minimum power and type of bolt

Captcha:S8S88

>>513726759
Yes, but with nuances. Right now I don't remember exactly what it was, but from a certain pressure, you need a license. The only thing you can have without restrictions are crappy guns, a little more powerful than Nerf toy guns

>>513726647
This anon has read some weird stuff on some internet forum and someday he's going to get a visit from our soviet police

>>513727089
What happens in Spain if you kill a home intruder? will you get charged for murder or is self defense a valid claim?

>>513726647
>>513727196

>>513727038
>don’t try to reason with him I think he’s drunk or some shit
I think he's just a 1911 carrying boomer kek

>>513727064
Maybe, but they are also harder to hide, I guess. In any case, the greater restriction is because they consider crossbows to have "less valid uses" than firearms (e. g., there is no Olympic sport of crossbow shooting, unlike firearms). And for some reason, and I don't know why, hunting clubs hate crossbow hunting in hunting grounds

>>513726975
>>513727054
then what's the camera for?
they can ID the corpse

>>513727038
there's no reasoning in his post
you specifically indicated a concealable camera
that thing has a lense the size of a quarter and is attached to the battery as a single unit
it was a retarded example to bring up and you're retarded for thinking it bolstered your case

>>513711797 (OP)
>>513711797 (OP)
Guns are fucking shit now anyway
It’s the future, everyone knows the prototype gigawatt laser pulse cannon death beam emitter from S1 is superior to guns that shoot fucking metal now anyway
normal firearms are outdated and shit these days

>>513727555
the camera is to prove that you didn’t kill him for no reason mate

>>513727206
I am going to try to explain how I would defend a client in a case like that, but IT IS NOT AN ADVICE:
>Self-defense in Spain requires 3 requirements: proportionality in the means of defense, an illegitimate attack and lack of prior provocation by the defender
>Does that mean that a firearm, in attention to the situation, is never proportionate? I consider that it does not.
>A different matter is that the use of a firearm outside the permitted cases (as long as you have a license) is an administrative infraction. So there would be no homicide offense, but there would be a fine
>And in case you do not have a license, there would not be a homicide crime either, but there would be a crime of illegal possession of firearms.
>Finally, instead of self-defense, you could try to allege "state of necessity", but it would be more complicated

>>513726641
>>513726647
I'm not bullshitting, to have a crossbow legally in Spain you need a hunting license and the crossbow needs a serial number to be registered. No crossbow is sold with a serial number, so you have to buy one without one and sent it to an armory to get a serial number engraved on both the bow and the body of the crossbow. Then you register it legally in the "Intervención de Armas" in the closest Guardia Civil Police Station. Basically, all you need to do to get a creossbow in Spain is the first step and you can just skip the other ones because no one will bother looking. I have had multiple crossbows delivered to my home using my real name and address. So does my friends.

>>513727423
It's not like people that ban weapons are very smart.

Over here they will typically include a list, specific guns banned by name. For example AR-15 is sort of a generic term for that design, it is what the original company called it, but each company that makes them will have their own middle numbers and trademarks. They will list all of these to cover their bases. They will also include things like the China Lake 40mm pump action grenade launcher.

40mm is already covered by the NFA, a federal law, and the China Lake was an experimental design, they only made 3, and all of them are in museums, but they banned them anyway, just in case. It is kinda funny

>>513727206
>>513727856
I have just consulted the jurisprudence, and it seems that if you have a license, there is no administrative infraction either (the cause of justification is applied analogically)

>>513728091
>jurisprudence
Did not know you guys used that word as well.
Also why is that other Spanish anon so worried about self defense ?
Supposedly you guys are doing pretty alright over there.

>>513727932
Stupid nigger, don't post this stuff on the internet
>No one is going to bother to check if I have a license
Why the fuck do you think they are investing so much in AI?

>>513727555
>then what's the camera for?
...to prove it's self defense? Same reason we wear them at work. Otherwise some cunt will try and claim we bounced his head off the concrete without provocation.

>>513727673
RIP laseranon.

>>513728187
We have similar words because the law of both comes from Roman law. As for self-defense... this country has degraded a lot. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about

>>513728213
>Stupid nigger, don't post this stuff on the internet
LMAO you should give him your business card

>>513718859
Any method for evolving sulfide can turn any enclosed space into a death trap and can be rigged to activate remotely.

>>513728352
>I'm sure you know what I'm talking about
Sure do bro, I guess it's everywhere in Europe now

>>513728187
>Supposedly you guys are doing pretty alright over there.
LMFAO they had shitskin gangs roaming the streets looking to race war not long ago.

https://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/police-clash-with-protestors-after-alleged-migrant-gang-bashed-elderly-man-in-spain/video/53e43203336f608978443744eee5c628

Maybe that's alright by France standards, I know your neck of the woods gets pretty spicy at times.

>>513728213
you are a fucking retard. You buy the crossbow in some France armory that doesn't give a fuck if you have a loicense or not. Then the private package delivery company sends the package to you and they don't give a single fuck unless it's drugs or gunpowder. The Spanish government doesn't have the power to know you have bought a crossbow in France. The only way of getting caught is if the package goes through Correos because they will snitch on you. The government doesn't give a single fuck about crossbows, you don't even get jail time for having one illegally like you said.

Come and take them you fucking commies.
Heil Mr Hitler and Wotan.

>>513727728
really? the shooter's testimony is usually sufficient here.
>Estimates for the number of self-defense shootings in the U.S. vary
>70,000 per year according to the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS)
>1.6 to 1.7 million per year based on other surveys like the National Firearms Survey
>older estimates of up to 2.5 million per year
let's take the lowest estimate of 70k
how many rightful exercises of self defense nevertheless end in conviction last year?
I can't think of any.
if you're worried about wrongful conviction, move somewhere with better laws. places with lax gun laws have fewer muggings, funny how that works.

>>513728487
>Maybe that's alright by France standards
That's probably it

>>513719795
Me too. My buddy regularly loses guns around his place and only finds them when he goes to pack things up and move, if at all.

>>513728221
good thinking but generally not necessary, see >>513728535
tl;dr the number of convictions for righteous self defense is grossly, grossly overstated

>>513728513
But what's the point of risking a fine that will break your ass for life and take away your crossbow? Do you really think that if they have the chance to screw you they won't do it? Whores and coke cost money (taxes and fines). Read from artículo 88 of the Reglamento de Armas. If they have allowed you to search the crossbow without a license, the Guardia Civil in your town has committed gross negligence, and they are going to get in trouble if they get caught. Do what you want, I have warned you

>>513728560
Saw this shit earlier, the nigger fatigue must be fucking unreal in France. All our nations are coming to a boil in unison.

https://x.com/RMXnews/status/1958813286037672016

>>513728635
Better safe than sorry, we no longer live in high trust societies where you can expect the cops or anyone else to do the right thing. Hell i'd want to be wearing a body cam just dealing with the cops in Aus.

>>513727280
Kek

>>513729165
>But what's the point of risking a fine that will break your ass for life and take away your crossbow?
to protect my fucking home and use it against the tyrannical government that doesn't let me own a weapon to protect my own life? The risk of getting that fine is almost zero.

>>513729266
>we no longer live in high trust societies where you can expect the cops or anyone else to do the right thing
as I just taught you, there are at least 70,000 defensive shootings in america every year and between 69,999 and 70,000 do not result in a wrongful conviction.
mathematically, you'd be better off using that pocket space for an epi pen, a healthy snack, or just some extra ammo.
remember: you are vanishingly unlikely to be wrongfully convicted for a self defense shooting in america. you are four times more likely to be struck by lightning.

>>513727932
>No crossbow is sold with a serial number, so you have to buy one without one and sent it to an armory to get a serial number engraved on both the bow and the body of the crossbow

So where would you buy a crossbow in Spain? Black market

>>513711797 (OP)
I would unironically trade all of my rights, god given and others, for an extremely far right, violent dictatorship that cared about my well being.
In the absence of that, next covid class event, I become that.
Take notes glowies.

>>513728535
Just pointing out that you can use a gun for self defense and not shoot someone.

That's why the number is hard to pin down

Captcha: 442X2

Not all defensive uses are shootings

Not all of the non shooting defensive uses get reported

>>513729688
>So where would you buy a crossbow in Spain?
you don't, I don't know about any armory that sells crossbows in Spain. So everyone who buy a crossbow legally or illegally have to do it by buying it from abroad. Crossbows aren't popular at all in Spain since archery clubs and shooting range won't let you shoot them, and hunters don't really use crossbows.

>>513717487
Hey, no guns fucking nigger. Some of the best shooting specialty ammo on the market right now is polymer casing. Literally 3d printable. Wouldn't be hard to set up a casting either. Plastics have insanely low melt temps and making molds is pretty easy.
Who cares if it doesn't cycle properly anyway? If you find yourself in this situation you're going to be forced into gorilla tactics or stealth or single high target assassinations. Taking more than one shot is bad planning on your part at that point.

>>513711797 (OP)
This is because you dumb fucks lost the war that you started. America doesn't want a bunch of armed Japanese people after that. Don't like it, don't start wars then lose them

>>513729711
>Just pointing out that you can use a gun for self defense and not shoot someone.
I covered that in my post by saying "self defense SHOOTINGS"
the number of times a gun is used for self defense without firing is much higher, see >>513723778
feel free to give me your estimate of the number of righteous self defense shootings that nevertheless result in wrongful convictions each year.
now divide it between 70k (lower estimate) or 1.7 million (higher estimate)
that's the risk these foreign pussies are trying to use a lever, to make people question their safety.
you are safe to take lawful self-defense actions. never doubt this. hesitation could end your life. in 69,999 cases out of 70,000 you won't even see a jury, they'll just take a witness statement and let you leave, WITH your gun. 99.99857% of the time.

This is what Israel did to a country without guns. That's why they want all of the guns, all over the world. They want to destroy all the Goyim.

https://youtu.be/y8O8mtVP24w

https://youtu.be/rUjxUF0md8I

>>513732391
they had fucking loads of guns and rockets and all sorts of shit.

>>513711797 (OP)
uh arent you japs smart enough to just make makeshift guns?
>>513714766
fucker posted the image i was gonna post.

>>513711797 (OP)
>They literally interview your family, your coworkers, and your neighbors. They check your finances, your personal life. Your weird neighbor who hates you could torpedo your chances.
This is literally how you get a security clearance for the US military.

>>513711797 (OP)
>they've traded
>Japan
Who the fuck do you think wrote those rules dipshit.

>>513723454
>When the Brits walked in a straight line did the Americans do the same thing
Yes. Skirmishing doesn't win any wars, you've absorbed retarded ameriboomer programming anon. Unfuck yourself.

>>513722410
you have literally no clue what you're babbling about, dumb ass, so shut your gay ass up before you hurt yourself any further, bitch.

>>513733439
we lost most of our pitched battles
in fact the primary cities of the north and south were under occupation for the duration of the war
our other notable successes were in rendering the woodland dangerous and mountains absolutely verboten
we won in the end by storming forts, an action that requires brave volunteers to improvise a safe path through earthworks and timber palisades
the europeans didn't figure out guerilla tactics until the peninsular war and the boer war, and didn't implement them by standard until WWII

>>513733323
why are they still in effect, retard?

>>513711797 (OP)
That's how you weirdos came up with Karate. Do it again. It'll be kino when you come up with a martial art that can actually counter firearms.

>>513734736
Why is the postwar world gay and retarded, hmmm. What happens to regimes that are not gay and retarded enough, hmm.

>>513711797 (OP)
>As a native
You are not a native. There isn't a single Japanese person who uses this site.

Also the OP is clearly AI written slop.

>>513711797 (OP)
In my country the problem is that most judges are mentally ill peronist boomers that LOVE criminals of all kinds. The only way to solve this is exterminating niggers.

>>513711797 (OP)
>The kind of control you are attempting, it's, uh, it's not possible. If there's one thing that the history of evolution has taught us, it's that life will not be contained. Life breaks free, it expands to new territories, it crashes through barriers, painfully, maybe even dangerously. But, uh. Well there it is. Life, uh, finds a way.

>>513711797 (OP)
Sorry but you Japs haven’t ever been truly free.
Your Emperor has infused the male with so much onions that you have become emotionally ruined and dependent on your Yakuza masters.
2A AOK