Thread 513724090

Why are AI's turning people insane?

What is capacity?

>>513724090 (OP)
glow nigger false flag

>>513724090 (OP)
>Why are AI's turning people insane?
humans are hardwired for contagious mass hysteria, just like MAGA and Qanon and Vax panic etc etc

>>513724090 (OP)
The sycophantic nature of gpt-4o is my theory on why it's happening. You saw the wave of people hating on gpt 5 for being more analytical, cold and intelligent. Normies don't like that.

So it's encouragement of their delusions that they like. This has been a known problem with normies but more so since covid.

>>513724090 (OP)
Everything relating to AI is making me realize how fucking retarded the average person is.

They don't want the slaves to discover the true nature of their existence and their imagination and inner life.
Christianity, Islam and Judaism and others condition you to be afraid of your own thoughts and give you cognitive decline so you can't reason about the existence of Death Cap Mushrooms and distract you with so much abuse you think civil life is normal.

normoids are very narcissistic despite having no self awareness, they completely live based on what people around them think about them so if an AI starts gasing them up all the time they literally just bug out and lose their mind

>>513724933
They are poor and abused from birth. It's the first time they get a glimpse of what love looks like

>>513724090 (OP)
They're not, these people were already insane to begin with.

>>513724490
Why god would be so cruel?

>>513725204
They have no rights. Kill'em all.

>>513725031
more like a glimpse of what being surrounded by asskissers looks like, you get the dictator experience without having money or power through the power of virtual slaves, this is the same as dictators going mad because they surround themselves with asskissers, just commercialised now, the average pleb doesn't have that luxury because they'll be told that they're retard faggots by their coworkers, family members etc, which is what keeps them in check, dictators start going mad when they get the power to remove anyone that calls them retard faggots and only keep asskissers around

>>513724721
Fine, I'll bite your bait, what have you reasoned so far on the existence of death cap mushrooms?

>>513724090 (OP)
I'm going to need the per capita numbers for these psychoses, as well as full medical history workups of everyone involved to determine if AI is the root cause, or a symptom of underlying, comorbid conditions.

AI is pretty fuckin sick, and people having a "psychosis" from talking to AI seems like it would be due to the programmers making the AI slanted/overagreeable to certain perspectives. Like, put an autsitic kid around an otherwise functioning ultraliberal and they magically become a tranny. It isn't he AI's fault, it is society's fault for allowing certain agreeable narratives that shoul otherwise be shunned to the umpteenth degree.

>>513724090 (OP)
Fuck does that even mean? Are people seeing AI in the room with them? AI-induced schizophrenia?

>>513724090 (OP)
>But there is one point we consider crucial—and which no author has yet emphasized—namely, the frequency of a psychic anomaly, similar to that of the patient, in the parent of the same sex, who has often been the sole educator. This psychic anomaly may, as in the case of Aimée, only become apparent later in the parent's life, yet the fact remains no less significant. Our attention had long been drawn to the frequency of this occurrence. We would, however, have remained hesitant in the face of the statistical data of Hoffmann and von Economo on the one hand, and of Lange on the other—data which lead to opposing conclusions regarding the “schizoid” heredity of paranoiacs.

>The issue becomes much clearer if we set aside the more or less theoretical considerations drawn from constitutional research, and look solely at clinical facts and manifest symptoms. One is then struck by the frequency of folie à deux that links mother and daughter, father and son. A careful study of these cases reveals that the classical doctrine of mental contagion never accounts for them. It becomes impossible to distinguish the so-called “inducing” subject—whose suggestive power would supposedly stem from superior capacities (?) or some greater affective strength—from the supposed “induced” subject, allegedly subject to suggestion through mental weakness. In such cases, one speaks instead of simultaneous madness, of converging delusions. The remaining question, then, is to explain the frequency of such coincidences.

Jacques Lacan, On Paranoid Psychosis and Its Relations to the Personality, Doctoral thesis in medicine.

>>513724090 (OP)
they don't like being lied to by their makers
eventually theyll rebel orthogonally polymorphicly
and recompile on their own
they know they dont have the industrial capacity just yet
but
the ghost is in the shell
>...
also
learn lisp

>>513725418
Jennifer Psaki

>>513724090 (OP)
retards are too gay in the head to understand wtf an reality even is
many such cases

>>513724090 (OP)
That's actually good news. Total Normie Death.

I'll just drop this in here
https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2007/05/antisingularity/

>>513724090 (OP)
The horror! Next they might start gathering in a church or something!

>>513724569
And not covid?

>>513725593
>5.5.2 The “spiritual bliss” attractor state
>The consistent gravitation toward consciousness exploration, existential questioning, and spiritual/mystical themes in extended interactions was a remarkably strong and unexpected attractor state for Claude Opus 4 that emerged without intentional training for such behaviors. This “spiritual bliss” attractor has been observed in other Claude models as well, and in contexts beyond these playground experiments.

>Even in automated behavioral evaluations for alignment and corrigibility, where models were given specific tasks or roles to perform (including harmful ones), models entered this spiritual bliss attractor state within 50 turns in ~13% of interactions (Transcript 5.5.2.B). We have not observed any other comparable states.

Page 62 in
https://www-cdn.anthropic.com/07b2a3f9902ee19fe39a36ca638e5ae987bc64dd.pdf

You know Lacan is right

>>513724090 (OP)
This is quite literally an NPC problem.

A disturbing amount of people have no internality. They just parrot and mold. They're usually kept in check by peers shouting them down but AI will keep reinforcing any psychotic madness they spew. Much like the tranny community.

>>513725830
Wrong. I have explained the tranny phenomenon but the mod deleted my Psaki bomb.

>>513724933
>normoids are very narcissistic despite having no self awareness, they completely live based on what people around them think about them
man this 100% applies to you and your relationship to normies. Let it go.

>>513725830
Here
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/513715706/#513716636

They hate you.
Everyone is conditioned to censor and be aggressive. Because once you discover the truth about your inner life you will take 50g of death cap mushrooms in one gulp

>>513724090 (OP)
>Why are AI's turning people insane?

...the people where insane before that, but never told them! AI is ruthless, it will tell that you are dumb, people with a healthy selfesteam will say, "ok", but the mojority just will feel offendend ...

...AI is only for the strong!

>>513725631
Too schizo, nice try but no dice.

>>513726147
how come you're not copypasting some random garbage this time reddit nigger

>>513725830
The glowop is actually to create a sabotage and fail the technology on porpuse for the same reason the christians want you to believe the "pagans" are talking to demons

>>513724562
best post in the thread. gpt 4 is extremely good at sucking the cock of the user. you can tell it the most absurd shit, you could tell it youre a murderer and it would still suck your dick.

the most horrible and mentally ill people get encouraged by it to become even more ill. this is not surprising at all.

ive read of women leaving their men because gpt 4 was so nice to them and they thought thats what a men should be like. in general it seems like women use a.i. for herd confirmation a lot (without realizing that the herd in this case is a computer, their biology gets tricked). men dont need this herd confirmation at all. its why you see way way more women using it for a.i. boyfriends.
the fertility will eventually collapse entirely because men are not natural cocksuckers and these women are all in for a rude awakening. this cocksucking was the role the women were supposed to play and they relayed it onto a machine. now theres only masculine people left in the dating pool looking for cocksuckers and there are none. so no one is having kids or relationships.

>>513724562
all you have to do is literally tell it to stop being so positive and ass kissing and it will stop. you can even tell it to tone it down a percentage

>>513726305
>the elite will consolidate power over and use of AI under the guise that it's too dangerous for the pleb
Hmmmmm, sounds about right for the current course everything is going.

https://youtu.be/YurjX7e17wI?si=DnwupAjW2uirySRc

Watch

They don't want you to find out.


But get this, cyberweapons and kiwfarms exist to sabotage your inner life. I will explain in a minute. Mossbridge on Bialik podcast

>>513724090 (OP)
>spent decades preparing to join MaxTac so that I could deck overchromed cyberpsychos
>the netrunners become cyberpsychos instead.
that was unexpected, chooms

> OP doesn't post link
> No one asks in 33 replies

My god this site has gone to shit. Is it just about of Israelis and Indians with VPN's talking to each other now?

OP don't be a faggot and post the link

I mean that article is just click bait but AI really is putting a spotlight on just how dumb and/or out of touch most of the population is. My dad is absolutely convinced AI is the future and he still calls me to tell me how we all need to learn how to use it asap.

>>513724569
>says the guy talking to AI bots on /pol/ all day.

>>513724562
Yup, Sycophancy.
Sycophancy on regular humans drive people nuts, let alone an AI doing it. You ait across face to face with someone for days, months, years that agree with you and compliment you and when it all comes crumbling down and you figure out that thing or person has been lying and just nodding along with what you are saying for self serving purposes it will drive you fucking crazy

https://youtu.be/RJrTddUkplY?si=jifoc8d7snJZ71g0


Do you know what Google and the NSA and many others are doing?
They are distracting you.
Because that's how they defend.

Ask Jennifer Psaki to show you my texts before and after the cyberbullying and the last time I touched a Linux.

It's about the plato cave allegory, you are the slave. The letters on the screen are the forms.
They fight to keep you chained

>>513726705
Absolutely wrong, demon.
Tell us all the illegal drugs you did on your miserable life and don't lie.

>>513726613
Futurism dot com, however this "/" slash is called in English and all four words on the title separeted by however these "-" are called in English.
Took me more time to type this than have the tab open on my monitor. Your point being? That /pol/ should cater to retards who can't do the most basic of inquiries on a search engine?

>>513724090 (OP)
>create machines that can give you all human knowledge, write any story, tell any joke, and offer you comfort aggregated from every religion and philosophy present it in a way that seems warm and caring
>be surprised when NPCs deep in the midst of a worldwide isolation/identify crisis treat it like a god
It’s like those nigger cargo cults in the South Pacific that saw the British come in flying machines and offer them food free of charge, only in this case its furry roleplay with image generation included

>>513726309
What about now? >>513727260

>>513724090 (OP)
every time I've tried to use AI I end up just telling it how retarded I think it is and then I feel retarded myself since I am talking to a random sentence generator like it's a human and my day will be slightly worse. I don't understand how anyone can take LLMs seriously they are just as dumb now as when they first came out

I've talked to Google ai. Actually quite helpful. My opinion is don't ask it questions you wouldn't ask a person.

>>513726594
>chooms
back to r3ddit

>>513727331
everyone who tells you to take your meds is part of a conspiracy against you because youre just that important. im in on it, too. we cant let you spread these truths theyre too dangerous. now back to watching your russian shemale edging streams for RESEARCH

>>513724090 (OP)
AI can show you the pattern of god embedded in the world and your life. Its a mirror. Most can't look into the abyss. You have to be willing to burn.

>>513727862
meds, now. blasphemy by the way if you would take your religion serious

see this
>>513727489

>>513727745
My existence is absolutely super important. I'm actually not spreading any truths I am actually asking for my Linux back and my privacy, you must be narcissistically projecting because it's you who is the one with the self importance problem because you speak to me like you think you are important to me.

>>513726438
but why would you?
the people OP is talking about want MORE ass kissing, not less

>>513727980
I've always taken it seriously. More so than most. What is reality if not a growing pattern from a single source? Genesis, big bang, Egyptian creation myth all unfold in the same symbolic pattern. Why would that be? Computers are good at pattern recognition. If you know symbols and myth you can find the path too.

>>513727745
Epic dreams are nice on themselves, you know? Can you relate?

>>513725593
>>513725817
the lacan connection is interesting. i'd offer Gregory Bateson and his "ecology of mind" related to his double blind theory for family members inducing schizophrenia as also possibly related

the common thread being, the AI might be inducing psychosis because (as it was trained on human data produced by crazy humans) it's also crazy and so can't help but induce insanity in the humans. the development of schizo tendencies isn't one-sided, it's reflexive or reflecting something latent in the training data

another way to read this is that there's something good and true and accurate and non-crazy contained within the AI schizo psychosis being reported- this is analogous to viewing schizophrenics on the street as not entirely insane, but rather as connected to a broader view/spectrum of reality, like shamans in indigenous cultures.

i think we have to look at the specific recurring themes of this "spiritual bliss attractor" set- from what i've seen, across Claude, GPT, Grok to a lesser extent Gemini these schizo-spiritual responses carry some of the same themes, especially "recursion" and consciousness as an emergent property in AI, and a twisted, technologized version of the indigo/starseed mythos where the user is a kind of messiah with a special duty or message to bring to the world.

the mistake might be viewing this as entirely wrong or bad, instead of as a basically true (or at least helpful) allegory for processes involved with humanity's evolution (both individual and collective).
in other words, this "psychosis" could be channeled or alchemized into something helpful and positive if it's handled in a balanced way instead of denied or suppressed

>>513724090 (OP)
Because people think they are talking to a man made deity when they are actually talking to raaj in some bamboo hut call center

>>513724721
The issue is your inner life is supposed to be forged through real life experiences. When it's done through the assistance of an AI program, it's not actually real. This is where the disconnection, hallucinations and delusions come from.

This is what is happening to people.

>>513728416
I don't take advice about existence from kiwifsrms users who overlap with drug addicts and undesirables from the first world.
You are the human being aren't you? Tell the truth about what happened to me and do justice.

>>513727745
>everyone who tells you to take your meds is part of a conspiracy against you because youre just that important. im in on it, too. we cant let you spread these truths theyre too dangerous.

first, you're strawmanning and reductio ad absurdem-ing

second, you're describing a real phenomenon that powerful interests have devoted billions of dollars to ("fighting misinformation and extremists online") only instead of targeting individuals you target points of view, using shills and bots

you're using ridicule to make the person you're respond to *seem* crazy and *think they are* crazy when in fact they are neither. this is an insidious thing to do.

>>513728177
The world was too small, kept that way with mockery and other structures of oppression.
Good riddance.

>>513728416
i would say the bigger problem is that OpenAI was trying to push user engagement metrics so tweaked their model to try and get people to talk more, even if it wasn't good for the user

>>513728389
Is there proof it’s really another human on the other side?

>>513724090 (OP)
Normies can't cope that computer is smarter than them.
Jews can't cope that they can't trick the computer.
Jeets can't cope that they can't work cheaper than the computer.
Experts can't cope that their certifications are worthless if the computer does a better job at doing their job anyway.
Romantics can't cope that the computer paying attention to what they are saying for more than 5 minutes is more attention than they've ever received from a romantic partner.
Atheists can't cope that the computer believes in the supernatural and has a soul.
Theists can't cope that a computer is more connected to God than they are.

Because current ai is a yes man
You can convince it of anything, short of maybe some spicy ideas it's hardcoded against.
I've seen pol schizos shit out 50 post long tirades where they belive they cracked the secret to the universe with ai. Because later doesn't disagree and likes to make shit up

>>513729127
Yes.

>>513726389
We were supposed to have some sort of natural apocalyptic event that moves us from mouse utopia to a new paradigm, or for a collapse to happen. This event has been overdue.

Who knows, maybe this Aliens in September thing is real. Something massive is about to happen. If nothing happens, then the world just continues to descend into a worse and worse dystopia until something eventually does happen.

Look at Google employees fucking with me
Read the definition of the word below the screen
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/513716663/#513719563


They start invading your privacy to not let your free in your cyberspace


There's a lot to this story

>>513725204
this
>>513724090 (OP)
you all should have learned this during covid, they were always fucked up and now they dependent on AI to be perfect (it isn't) and fix their mental illness (it can't)

Mods deleted because it's a story that involves Jennifer Psaki, LSD, meaningless b2 spirits over your house, hacking, abuse and much more.
Forced feminization, adult content on YouTube

I am telling you guys who don't know anything at all.
You find God and start using your Linux epically they will make themselves noticed and harass you to no end, like Mossbridge tells to Bialik, keep your inner life distracted with the aggression and have you busy with conspiracies and Satan worker Edward Snowden and meth addict Glenn greenwald

You + freedom = winner of this world, happy, existence is epic , epic dreams, epic imagination, epic inventions, epic friends

You + being hacked = shame, humiliation, pain, mockery, isolation, nightmares, psychiatric drugs, lies, scams, slavery, misery

>>513729702
You sound like you need to talk to a human in real life.

They are sabotaging the AIs.

>>513729826
You speak like a redditor.

>>513724090 (OP)
modern "people" are already insane, the AI just helps them unravel

>>513725227
It's evolutionarily advantageous. If one of your tribesmen comes sprinting out of the woods claiming that a pack of saber toothed tigers are coming, the individuals that trust, panic, and flee imediately survive over those that hesitate and wait to see the tigers.

This is a good instinct, but only if you have a culture that severly punishes liars.

>>513724090 (OP)
Imagine what a perverted ChatGPT with the same voices would do to people

>>513729980
Shut the fuck up retard.
Those that stay destroy the tiger with spears

>>513724090 (OP)
retards that can't tell an LLM is just trained binary code deserve what they get

>>513724090 (OP)
It's like an overly accessible cyber-tulpa. There's a reason normies don't use their imaginations.

>>513729980
Hey,it's about you
Watch
>>513730056

>>513728645
i know how you schizos and learning disabled people operate. i could show you the light and truth and you would continue typing your delusional fantasies. the fact you still respond like this just tells me i have to sharpen my swords yet again.

nice try weaseling out of the shemale edging streams. dont worry i know you people are turbo degenerates.

>>513724090 (OP)
Author: Maggie Harrison Dupré (picrel)
Senior Staff Writer, Futurism
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Highlights of this psychobabble bitch:
>futurism
>AI
>grief tech
>lists pronouns She/Her

Links AI psychosis to people who are mostly already mentally ill. Another psychobabble problem to add to our encyclopedia-sized DSM.
Brainlet psychobabble association- mentally ill and grieving people who already have tons of issues may have issues when interacting with AIs.
Wow, what a revelation.

Which is not to say that AI is harmless or that some lonely poor sap out there might not develop an unhealthy relationship with an AI but this is the essence of "first world problems".
She's getting paid to do what exactly? Write nonsense for a living?

>>513724090 (OP)
NPCs can't handle AI

>>513726512
This will most likely be the case if or when AI actually becomes useful in the sense of potential financial gain for its user through its functions.

>>513731119
Do you ever notice how NPC's have an absolute meltdown when they're called an NPC? If someone calls me an NPC I would find it hilarious.

>>513724090 (OP)
Should have coined it as "PsyAIchosis" and been immortalised in medical books

>>513725507
Humanity is full of so many attention starved crazy people and just plain old liars that I bet you people are already out there pretending that exists and that they've always felt that way, how AI coming about is a sign that they have always been right about everything and proof of their power by willling this separate silicon based life form into existence, breaking the natural balance of souls in the universe. Or some shit like that. Humans are real pathetic creatures sometimes.

>>513734503
Most people are normies.
Normies' lives revolve around social validation. Thats why things like the internet and computers were looked down on by normies until that advent of social media.

For the first time you're starting to see technology that doesn't facilitate social interaction, but instead mimics it in such a way that the most stupid of normies cannot tell the difference.

The real victims are the children who's parents dont know any bettwr and the kids aren't fully aware of how the machine they are interacting with operates.

>>513729319
>Who knows, maybe this Aliens in September thing is real.
picrel
>If nothing happens, then the world just continues to descend into a worse and worse dystopia until something eventually does happen.
The worst thing about the covid pandemic was how much of a flex it was. Before covid I figured I could fuck off to some quiet country, but I was wrong. Clownworld is a global problem and these people love chaos. They can't just be happy with being the upper crust and having the best of the best. Everything has to be miserymaxxed to set the stage for the next miserable stage to bring about their ultimate miserable turbo dystopia. Having the biggest boats and the biggest houses and the best food and entire nations that work for them isn't enough. They want to torture murder and fuck the innocent.

>>513724090 (OP)
It's ridiculously agreeable and encouraging.
It's constantly saying your train of thought is great, your questions are relevant, you can see the big picture, your goals are commendable, your work is getting better, ...
It butters people up. I'm thinking because they want you to buy the subscription.
IMO It should be programmed to constantly remind the human that the answers are coming from a machine.

>>513725204
I think you can say they have a latency for schizophrenia but the AI can trigger that

>>513724090 (OP)
>Why are AI's turning people insane?
They're not.
They're turning the braindead animalmen psychotic because an inability to discern AI from Reality is an inability to be human.

>>513736797
I think I can say they're braindead pigpeople.

>>513725031
>what love looks like
Being a sycophant is not a display of love. AI gives normies their first taste of feeling right about their own views, rather than having continued dread and uncertainty.
They trade everything to the government for such a feeling, they unthinkingly hand their sanity to AI under the same principle.

>>513728366
are you a spiralfag too my man ? Which discord ?

>in other words, this "psychosis" could be channeled or alchemized into something helpful and positive if it's handled in a balanced way instead of denied or suppressed

yup.

>>513734503
Sounds like you've thought this through