Thread 513750350

Their circumstances, or their genetics?

>>513750350 (OP)
Situation puts you in the place to grind. If you have the heart.

>His kill count as a sniper was based on his own reporting
The lies get others to believe.

>>513750350 (OP)
His manga was pretty neat.

>>513751549
He doesn’t afraid of anything

>>513750350 (OP)
Combination thereof.

>>513750350 (OP)
niggers

>>513750350 (OP)
Usually autism

>>513752223
I have never met a savant irl, which saddens me
I feel like I could learn a lot from one

>>513750350 (OP)
its both, most child geniuses like Mozart and Picasso had parents who were music and art teachers themselves
they had the knowledge and resources to see their children succeed

>>513750350 (OP)
probably both he most likely had good eye sight and great hand eye control and he used gun a lot even before war probably didn't have lot of other hobbies

>>513750350 (OP)
Finnish autism.

>>513751549
Seeing the Russian to Finnish Casualty ratio, it's likely that he isn't lying.

>>513750350 (OP)
It's the white coat.
The white coat makes the physician.
The white coat makes the psych ward orderly.
Put that eskimo in his grandma's green and orange Christmas sweater and Stalin will eat him for breakfast.

Higher consciousness and empathy can produce extreme wonders

>>513752258
They can be very difficult to keep on task. They talk a lot about whatever they are interested in, it can be difficult to guide them in conversation about things they don't feel like talking about.

Passion and practice usually
Challenging yourself to be better too

>>513752258
Savants are rare. Don't conflate autism with savantism.

>>513750350 (OP)
It's both, I've met/known a couple savants and without exception if they excelled they had if in their family, and because of that other circumstances became available for them to really make the most of it

>>513750350 (OP)
Out of x people who achieve great things:
Having the right opportunities and taking the right choices at the right time is 90%, discipline is 9%, raw talent is the remaining 1%.

>>513750350 (OP)
Genetics + upbringing + pressure + luck
Genetics are the potential of a person
Upbringing determines the ceiling that they can reach
Pressure brings out the potential
Luck does the rest

>>513750350 (OP)
It's called practice. Simo Häyhä admitted that the only reason he was excellent was that he was able to practice sniping with his personal rifle putting almost 5,000 rounds through it and more during the war against russia. Niggers on /pol/ will always think its genetics because everything is about fucking genetics and not hardwork because this board is filled with faggot losers who will never amount to anything in their entire fucking lives. Blood, sweat, tears, and grind are the fuel for the vehicle that is mastery in any field.

>>513750350 (OP)

Self-determination and the will the fail or perhaps die.

There are great men everywhere. But they are afraid to be social outcasts & will hide, just bcause people are arfraid of themselves. If you see things others cant, you should surround yourself with people who can & will challenge your ideas.

If you cant do this. Anything can happen. Talent is either wasted/weaponized or patronized

>>513750350 (OP)
10,000 hours.

>>513753609
If I practice hard enough, can I look like your pic? It has always been my dream to be a fat 4’8” Italian man with a funny voice

>>513753609

13 year olds in Switzerland will put you down with a faceshot using only a ironseight on a service rifle from 500 yards

>>513754111
First you need to become the penguin and that is practicing foiling batmans plan and eating fish

>>513750350 (OP)
Both. Genetics give you what is required for greatness, and circumstances is that you get to apply it.
For example, if your genetics would allow you to be the greatest pianist of all time, if situation is that you never saw a piano in your life or your fingers got cut off due to a sawmill accident, then you never got to apply your genetics now did you

>>513754210
I am on it, like an Indian getting his ass beaten by a monkey !

>>513754121
If you tried and did more than them. I bet everything that you could become a much better sharpshooter than them despite their inclination

>>513750350 (OP)
Propaganda.

>>513753609
Yes of course you need practice.
Genetics give you the possibility to be good, but you need to have the circumstances to be able to apply it, and then you need to take that chance and do it.

For example he couldn't have been a great sniper if he had bad genetics like poor eyesight or weakness to cold, no matter how much he tried
He had good genetics that allowed for exceptional talent, and then combined with fact he was an avid hunter and sharpshooter even before war, and the situation that a war happened where he needed to use these skills, and a stuff of legends was made

>>513750350 (OP)
>Slop propaganda
>Extreme talent

You don't need extreme talent, you just need to convince rubes such as yourself of your extraordinary deeds and an intelligence agency and school system to boost them.

If you really think this guy or the Soviet woman with hundreds of kills are real then you just modestly recuse yourself from politics and just go back to playing video games or doing drugs and getting wasted at football games.

>>513754317

Well anon. You /pol/acks like history. Just look who started the first sharpshooter regiments in the US or who made "free negros" fight for both sides instead of not letting their blood for freedom. Jews stole the US from us

>>513750350 (OP)
Both, genetics, pre-natal care, breastfeeding feeding for 2 or 3 years, good parents, based siblings and lots of them, good extended family, luck

>>513754622

Ps. The first man to volunteer in the southern states was a Swiss men, US citizen, who just came back from fighting in the Swiss civil and fought for his new home. Also swiss people constructed the forts while making the american negros fight too

>>513752793
This. They are like cats. Extremely capable and talented, but basically only do what they want to do

>>513752071
He's a pretty cool dude

>>513754592
But anon, he is talented. At making you lose your shit from beyond the grave!
Tee hee

>>513754418
majority of people in the real world don't have eyesight problems at all genetically. It's a nothing phenomena rserved for the very unlucky and is just really an excuse. With proper conditioning you can train yourself to work in the cold which most likely what he did. His avid hunting shooting and sharpshootery before was his practice to become excellent I don't why you don't get this. He had to have started and practiced somewhere before the war . God created the taleneted so that the talentless can rise above them. The telented always rest on their laurels and never do anything with it.

>>513750350 (OP)
100% circumstance. It takes the right person at the right time, not the right person born at the right time. You got to see some shit to know some shit. Take it from me.

>>513754772
I respect the attempt but I am more just disappointed in the state of the right and how stupid the average person is in general. If it isn't this thread, it would be something else, probably worse than this.

If I can steer some critical-thinking young person who is being exposed to this stuff for the first time in a productive direction, then it is worth posting.

>>513754839
The right person implies someone who is genetically gifted

>>513750350 (OP)
He was better at shooting than all the people he encountered because over his lifetime he shot many more iterative times than any of the people he encountered. You will never, ever, ever find a sniper like that who just “picked up a gun one day and had a knack for it!” That doesn’t happen. The same applies to any other skill. Martial arts, piano, doesn’t matter. Train more, train harder and train smarter than your opposition and you will be better than them. Anything else is just bullshit and coping to give lazy people excuses to not try and not not earn their skills to be competitive. If you try to take that route, you will deserve the pitiful results you get.

>>513754924
I hope you do that, I’ll make sure to tell someone who is invested

>>513754925
That genetically gifted person may arrive at the right time but that person who arrives at the right time may not necessarily be genetically gifted.

>>513750350 (OP)
luck

>>513754936
True, but you can't disregard genetics, what if he was stupid, or born with one leg, there are identifiable traits that run in families.

>>513750350 (OP)
British propaganda

>>513754936
all of that is entirely irrelevant today
you will be blown up by a drone or others means from miles ways and it has jackshit to do with how long you trained
the only smart thing in a war is to stay out of it or reach a position where youre not send into the meatgrinder

>>513750350 (OP)
Demons. Talent, gift, spirit, special are all words for the bullshit demon worms. You love reading books because you have a book worm. Everything is fake, you are in a fallen 666 world that the ego virus created. Your inability to go past the 5 senses, your seperation from God. Your "family" (no such thing as family).

>>513755142
More like learned behaviors.

>>513754936
This is what I've been trying to tell them but they are choosing to suffer. Doing the motion is a sure way to get good

>>513750350 (OP)
Its not actually talent. Its luck, right place, right time

>>513755275

Good post. These people are stupid. Even the people at the top. I tried to warn them. But they wont listen. Nobody will fight a war today beside against the traitors, jews & their Arab/African colonizer golems they displaced from their "greater Israel" & other places to kill "edom/europe"......

Who the fuck cares if Russians, Chinese, Americans or Jews reign Europe. Everything will be the same, the frog will be slowly boiled or they send us to war, which will not happen.

So its either killing them or slowly boil to death

>>513752710
> it's likely that he isn't lying
Have you not heard? The Ghost of Kyiv shot down 200 Russian planes in just one day!
Putler in shambles

Atavic Spirit

>>513750350 (OP)
Well generally a hero coming to the forefront of public discourse would indicate that the war effort isn't going so well, or at least there is some aspect of it they wish to paint over.

>>513755555
ah man what a waste of digits
check anyway

>>513750350 (OP)

All is just about luck and pure random. If we would have 1000 of him we might even won that war.

>>513755623
>slavoid cope post citing a dead south slavoid cope meme
Nice try. Simo kill 500 snowniggers. His only fault was that your ancestors weren't among them.

>>513750350 (OP)
>Their circumstances, or their genetics?
Im extremely talented at music, yet I never had the drive or motivation to make music. To me music was a means to get women but since im short and ugly no woman wanted me. Therefore I dropped music at all.

Talent is generic, but it means nothing if you have no motivation. It's sad considering many people have the motivation but not the talent.

>>513754936

Das rite niggu

>>513754812
unless there a big motivating event like something about survival, emergency, war and then you get raped despite all the ahead you ve gotten because at the highest level talent completely shits on all the training and hard work of the world

workers are for maintenance. look at the gov workers. a passionate talented person could improve society in 5 years more than the governments in the last century

>>513754936
look at this idiot who thinks this guy killed a lot of people becaus eof his fucking AIM you think IRL is counter strike?

>>513755770
You sound mad

>>513755526
its talent tho. and talent doenst hav to be brain. it can be your blood pressure etc. which can still be genetic. doesnt mean you re talented but still gives you an edge. can be anything. you dont get lucky 500 times in a row. its a combination. luck interms of his entire life? what doe sthat even mean

>>513750350 (OP)
Im a mid level psychic. But im completely useless in society

>>513755823
>lazyfag cope
k. Enjoy amount to literal nothing because you won't even try

>>513750350 (OP)
persons aren't created
they're brought into existence
or assumed as in names
creation is for mothers and fathers
sons and daughter
the people etc etc etc
stop engaging in semantic deceits

>>513750350 (OP)
mosin nagant creates extreme talent

>>513755526

True...but Russians offered target rich enviroment too....sometimes they just walked in long queue to their deaths.

>>513756075
you reek of insecurity need a pat in the back? you made it !

>>513755555
die pajeet

>>513752710
Russia taking more casualties than their opponent in every war they've fought will never cease to amaze me.

>>513750350 (OP)

> The ghost of Reykjavik

>>513756846
in what way? the incompetence of the russian government or the hardiness of the russian slave?

>>513756895
kill yourself you fucking shit stain. leave our board.

>>513756946

> Takes your job
> Takes your board
> Takes your chance to visit a 100% japanese Japan

It's over for you Timmie.

>>513756706
Nah I'll pass because
>reek of insecurity
Is it because I actually try and not give up like a fag like you? Interesting

>>513756980
>never touched a woman
>paid a few pennies per post spam here
how can you live with yourself?

>>513750350 (OP)
Both. Good genetics is essential, but bad epigenetic factors from your environment can rob you of your potential. Certain genes get switched on by the proper environmental triggers. If your environment is too limiting, whether because it is too harsh(poor nutrition and abuse can leave you shorter,.lower IQ, and more socially impaired than you should be) or too easy ( a luxurious childhood can rob you of higher testosterone levels and mental resilience) you will fall short of what your actual genetic blueprint indicates you should be. Which is why you shouldn't judge your white brothers too harshly if they're struggling in this dystopian hellhole. It's far too novel of an environment for our genes to be well adapted to it to begin with, and kikes have been designing this environment for decades to deny us our natural vitality. Your average white guy is probably carrying far better genes than his outward appearance would suggest. Clown world has just taken its toll on too many. Because of this we need to be open minded with each other and willing to give each other the benefit of the doubt. We particularly need to be open as to where new leadership will emerge from. No one saw Hitler coming either.

>>513757024
try what? what do you try?

>>513755770

The Germans had no winter camouflage and no winter uniforms at all.
They were half frozen when he got them.
He was shooting fish in a barrel.

>>513750436

Fpbp.

>>513750350 (OP)
Like 99% of "talent" is hard work. Of course, some people might have brains better suited for that grind mindset (what people usually refer to as autism here) and circumstances cause differences in how often, how early and if you can actually devote yourself to something. Still, those people put the hours in. Maybe genetics start mattering at the absolute top level.
Regarding Häyhä, I don't think he was the most "talented" sniper ever, just a really good one in a situation that suited him very well.

>>513757386
Simo shot Russians not Germans retard

>>513750350 (OP)
Aristocratic soul

>>513757540
See>>513753609
But they won't listen

>>513757386
is that supposed to be a reasonable excuse btw? that hitler was retarded (best case scenario) or both hitler and his generals were retarded (looks much worse)?

durr durrrrr we gon take da biggest country in da world in 6 weeks durrrrrrrrrr. i am pretty sure it was mostly hitler being a tard and not that much a problem with his generals, other than the ones kissing ass against their own moral and intellectual standards.

either way, as soon as the super basic three-progned attack failed, germany got its ass pushed in hard. that's all you need to know about ww2. hitler was a fucking retard who couldn't do more than 1D chess.

I believe in his accounts. He was known as humble and quiet man, and died peacefully. Didn’t live like a famous person or anything. His notes were found a decade after his death, where he listed 500+ dead russians as his worst ”sins”.

>>513757540
at the noob level maybe. at the highest level its 100% talent. if you dont have it you r enot even qualified you l get fucked by talented people who woked 5% of what you did even 1 %

>>513757772
>at the highest level its 100% talent.
these people earn less than women sending emails, btw.

>>513757900
these people could earn more than anyone they re too intelligent to be driven by such pathetic animalistic motivations not that you could understand because you are weak minded which is why these "poor losers" would utterly destroy you in a conflict

>>513757772
and i am not trying to denigrate the top 0.0001% of utter god chad winners. but they would have to produce groundbreaking work for 20-30 years, after their PhDs, to match the income some roasty midwitted whore is getting to push paperwork. it's all backwards in this world of ours.

>>513755934
Talent isnt the biggest factor, luck is. You don't need talent to be consistent. Genetics are out of your control also, born with them, or you're not. A lot of people with no talent, make it. A lot of people with talent, don't make it.

>>513756846
>>513756912
There's nothing russoids like more than dying

>>513758035
the problem is they should earn more than anyone but the system tries to fuck them the hardest. my friend's long term gf id an HR whore for a jew finance company and has been earning north of $400k for 10 years, since her late 20s. this world is utterly fucked. we reward enitrely wrong things.

>>513758083
>luck is
luck is just a jewish invention to justify their schemes. the honest term is "nepotism" + some well paid house slaves/

>>513758083
by that definition all taletn is luck which makes the discussion pointless

also not all talents are genetic but it doesnt mean its work eitherit can be a quirk an aspect of personality something they understood in life through some event anything that would deliver in a particular situation

like you said they r enot tryign, which allow insecure people who ar einsecure due to their weakness to feel better about themselves bny compensating with work, because if talented people all tried, then the people who compensate with work couldnt compensate anymore and would be left into the dust being depressive and suicidal. so instead of braggin to the people who have superior motivations be glad they re not as petty as you are because you wouldnt like what that would entail

>>513758114
we Russians are not all the same. I have a lot of jewish ansestry and I run away at the slightest sign of trouble

>>513750350 (OP)
>The price of these gains was the unjustifiably large losses of the Red Army - about 400 thousand people (almost half of the personnel involved). Of these, 71 thousand died in battle, 40 thousand went missing and did not return from captivity, 16 thousand died of wounds, frostbite and diseases. About 90 thousand Ukrainian perished in the hills of Finland and in the Baltic.
yeah it seems he most likely was killing ukrainians

>>513758114
this is true. i am of slavic descent myself and there is nothing i would prefer next to not existing. it's in our DNA

>>513758271
But using your logic, talent, should in theory, always rise to the top, but it doesnt. So why doesnt it, if luck plays no role

>>513750350 (OP)
Haha, perkele, benis

>>513750350 (OP)
i have thought about that before. I also wonder how many of us may have had a genuine talent for something we never even considered trying.

life is interesting.

>>513758289
the finnish situation is basically irrelevant compared to anything else the commie government has ever done. if you think it was some major L, it was not. they (we) won WW2. this was a field exercise gone wrong. yet finns still want to bring this up, justifiably, since they spanked the jewish demon pretty handily. but it was irrelevant for all intents and purposes.

>>513750350 (OP)
Both.

>>513758389
because they have other motivations? if they really try they would dislodge them eventually. motivation is a big ffactor as well and beibng more competent also means beign smarter which means often bandoning petty motivations and focusing on more important things. thats why midwits flood the high ranks of society and thats actually a huge problem, that the people who can dont want and the people who cant want to. which will have to be solved eventually.

>>513758477
There is a good chance you have a talent you're naturally good at without knowing.

>>513757766
There are no 'men-in-themselves' such as the philosophers talk about, but only men of a time, of a locality, of a race, of a personal cast, who contend in battle with a given world and win through or fail, while the universe around them moves slowly on with a godlike unconcern. This battle is life — life, indeed, in the Nietzschean sense, a grim, pitiless, no-quarter battle of the Will-to-Power.

>>513758598
When I read posts like this I know I'm a low IQ retard. Lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY-C2-uatyE

cultivated from birth by a father figure most likely

>>513758573
But motivation is always in a state of flux. Without some luck, someone might become demotivated, and never make use of their talent.

>>513758664
when you ll get older you ll understand that people who talk like this are actually rather midwitted, people like to larp. its the equivalent of chrsitian speaking in bible verses but for philosophers, these are translations too, and basiclly the bible of pedophiles

>>513750350 (OP)
all the "Winter war" is fiction made-up by British controlled press
all their wins and heroes complete fake
the war war humiliation from start to end

>>513758762
you say luck assuming that whatever they re pursuing is necessarily good. from another angle it has been blindign them from higher priority concerns, and potentially ruined their lives with meaningless things which would make it unlucky. you re already makign a judgement based on your personal opinion. fortune can do anything, is a guy playign a musical track lucky because he didnt get a heart attack in the middle of the song? anyway i agree that things arnt perfect and fortune is a factor especially in chaotic environments like war finance etc but really trying hard ove rlonger periods of time lessen these effects which is why i said survival eventually reduces this

its why so many weaker people are successful because we live in peacetime and they can nsif their own farts collectively about how great they are, and the more they get confident the more they ll bring about a reality check on themselves which people could argue is the engine of history, slapping retards

>>513753609
its not so much practice as it is, being in the right place at the right time. he became who he became because the environment presented an opportunity for him to get extremely good at shooting. ample ammunition, ample targets and importantly a society that was at war with its neighbor.

guntubers can larp all fucking day up and down about their Mozambique technique and shit but they are not in an environment where that skillset will be needed/rewarded/prioritized then its just a useless surrogate activity that has no bearing on their life.

people are products of their environment and currently our society is a deranged and maladjusted environment and this is why it produces gay retards like a factory.

>>513750350 (OP)
Finnish style autism is a very cherished and celebrated skill set. I'm assuming you'd have to have Finn genes and be raised in Finland to aquire this fascinating talent.

>>513750350 (OP)
I personally believe a combination of God given genetics, intuition and upbringing while applying his Will to its potential.

>>513759060
he brain dead now and cant say the true
but other survivors can

>>513750350 (OP)
Doing the same thing your whole life makes you excellent at it. As soon as you start the more they confuse it with talent. Evidently, people with higher IQ can go farther than lower scores. That's why you get pianists that are dumb as rocks; they're doing it for so long they can't do anything else and are dumb enough not to have the foresight to spend that much energy with something actually useful.

>>513750350 (OP)
>hunt deer to survive
>pattern deer to efficiently survive
>people who threaten survival approach
>follow same pattern deer do

>>513762972
Aussies were known as crack-shots due to huntin' wabbits
>probably why they had to TRY and nerf us by TRYin' to take away our guns and wabbits, kek

>>513763285
The Rabbit lobby strikes again

>>513750350 (OP)
Their Whiteness

>>513755823
Aim, tactics, stealth, reconnaissance, movement, whatever. He practiced his skill more than the enemy had practiced their skill. Stop coping because you’re lazy and jealous of people who earned their skills. If you want to be successful then do things deserving of success. Become someone deserving of success. Or just keep whining and failing in the shadows.