Thread 513770055

he shouldn’t have gloated so much. karl declared bankruptcy and won’t have to pay back 80% of his debt

>>513770055 (OP)
It has nothing to do with his gloating. Karl is legit broke. He went over his finances in one of his videos. The dude doesnt have a pot to piss in. His wife owns everything and it’s not like she’s doing great either since she had to take out loans to buy Karl’s half.

LOL If I was Karl I'd run Billy over with a bus I stole before I'd give him one red cent.

>>513770203
Billy fucked up not realizing how much it costs to sue someone. Lawsuits are a war of attrition and frankly normal people should never sue someone. It cost me 3500 bucks to get an Indian lawyer to write a letter to my landlord once so i could make a deal on breaking my lease without getting sued. This is before I realized all Indians are crooks but even if the lawyer cost half that much it goes to show you how damn expensive these greedy lawyers are. Anyways Karl lost all his money defending the suit so in the end Billy’s recovery didnt even cover his lawyer costs.

>>513770146
the fact is karl keeps his youtube income and billy is out half a million dollars. karl came out ahead

Stfu we don’t care. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Billy and Karl are both shitstains. Now begone.

>>513770397
It's not about money. It's sending a message.

I think Billy recovered like 250 grand but his lawyers cost upward of 500k.

>>513770397
Sure, sure, but it would have helped Karl's case if he hadn't lied about the the court case was centered on, at least to us. I mean, if it was about the joystick, Karl had Billy on the ropes, but alas he lied because he's a speedrunning moron who's never done anything honest in his life.

*what the court case was blah blah

Deliberately hiding your assets to falsely declare bankruptcy is called Bankruptcy fraud and is a crime punishable for up to 5 years in prison.

The law isn't some poorly coded game from the mid 1990s.

>>513770552
Karl isnt that crooked compared to most YouTubers.

>>513770552
>lied to us
>us
Nigger, if you believed karl fucking jobst that's on you. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, with half a brain knew what it was about. Everyone did.
>BUT BILLY CHEATED AT A GAME
Who. The. Hell. Cares? Get over yourself and kill yourself, speedtranny.

>>513770649
If you say so, but apparently he's dumber than most youtubers.

>>513770641
He isnt hiding his assets you idiot. His wife took out loans and bought out his half of everything and he gave the money to billy but lawsuits are so damn expensive both sides wasted a fortune so recover for billy wont even cover his lawyer costs.

>>513770697
>lies
Ok, cool.

thats amerinigger capitalism for you

Long live the King!

>>513770709
(((they))) win again.

>>513770731
You're genuinely retarded and I hope your gash gets infected.

>>513770055 (OP)
karl always has a plan

>>513770397
FYI this is just my opinion and not a negative statement towards billy or Karl. I just think anything invovling lawyers should be avoided at all costs. Lawyers fucking suck. Until you’ve dealt with them you have no fucking idea. No fucking idea.

>>513770709
I'm thinking it's all fake now. It's so stupid it's got to be fake, or Karl is the king of dipshits.
On the other hand, Billy would pay someone to play a dope. Then again Billy is lame-brained enough to think that his style of attire and haircut are endearing and not extremely unsettling and uncanny, I suppose it's real. I accept it's real under protest.

>>513770709
>He isnt hiding his assets you idiot
Not from what he stated in the leaked discord messages. But let's say you are correct, how exactly is being left with absolutely nothing, while your wife is now saddled with a substantial amount of debt winning exactly?

>>513770811
You're legit underage and need to leave. And you're obsessed with troons, which means you are one.
Just leave.

>>513770950
Billy hasn't taken Karl's wife.
Yet.

this is not how the law works. If you are awarded $200.000 your lawyer makes sure his fee is $195.716,26 if you are awarded $350.000 your lawyer makes sure his fee is $345.172,35 if you are awarded $1.000.000 you lawyer makes sure his fee is $991.742,25

he better find a way to pay for tha mobilhome

>>513770055 (OP)
Goyim need to stop larping as kikes. They don't have the networking power to get away with it.

>>513770055 (OP)
>Hello you absolute legends.
Picrel Karl Jobst.

>hiding assets
he was pretty open about it in the video. he pulled one over on billy

>>513771006
Did you know that one of Billy's good, good friends is a convicted pay dough file?
(misspelled lest youtube suggest crap forever)

>>513770950
He went over the exact messages on the video. Why dont you just watch it. I think his point is that billy made a mistake because even though he did get money out of Karl, Karl isnt a rich man. Look anybody can sue anybody. Someone once told me lawsuits are like a punching yourself contest. Who can punch themselves more and come out on top. Nobody wins. It fucking sucks. Lawyers are fucking leaches. You cannot understand this until you have dealt with lawyers in a major lawsuit. The only thing worse than lawyers is a loved one getting a major illness like cancer or dying. There is nothing else worse.

>>513771097
Is it Karl Jobst?

>>513770709
He bought a house a few years ago.
Since his job is a 'youtuber' he either paid cash or had a very large deposit, like 50%+.
Median house price in Aus is $1 million. His house is in Queensland which is cheaper than NSW but it was a pretty nice house, so $1m is prob a good estimate.
I'm sure Karl's lawyers ensured that Karl had an ability to pay their fees without selling his home. That means that all his home equity should be going to Billy, at least $500k.
So Billy's legal costs should be covered at a minimum, and he should see at least a decent chunk of those damages too.

>>513771339
Dude just watch the video. He goes over his exact finances. YouTubers are not as rich as you think.

>>513771309
Don't recall his name, but he speaks from inside a prison cell, or other prison room, in The King of Kong. He's the bald guy with the missing tooth wearing the gray/blue shirt with the concrete block wall behind him. He raped his small daughter.
That's the kind of guy that Billy has in his corner.

>>513770055 (OP)
>bankrupt yourself trying to hunt you white whale
>somehow is a win because Billy won't get any money despite losing all your credibility to anyone with a 3 digit IQ
I don't understand how people can still watch his videos, they either are unaware of the whole drama or are complete morons

>>513771382
Can you timestamp the part about his finances or tell me roughly what part of the vid it is in?
I'm interested but can't be fucked searching through a 2 hour Karl Jobst video.

Apparently giving everything you own to your wife to avoid your creditors is legal is Australia. What an upside down country.

>>513770055 (OP)

Doesnt change he cheated and that hes still a faggot

>>513770203
kek

>>513771416
>you cheated in a video game 30 years ago

>>513771416
I can't watch anything from him anymore because all I ever wanted was for him to prove that Billy lied. Yet he lied again and again. Total cretins will chime in (again) and say that they knew and that I'm stupid, which is another lie. No one knew but Billy and Karl.
And I never cared for his asinine speedrun videos that amount to infected shits from Tijuana.
>hey I can ignore the rules of this game and skip all of it--look that makes me the king of it!
>I BEAT IT!

No, fagbot.

>>513771489
He didnt do that. The guy straight up lost a fortune. Have some compasssion. I have compassion for both sides because they both had to deal with lawyers. Avoid lawyers. This is the best advice someone can ever give you. But humans have to touch the stove to know it’s hot.

>>513771170
It wasn't about the money for Billy, it was about his image and credibility.
News headlines said he won and people won't read pass them so that's priceless to him.
Karl is just a sore loser that would try and spin anything on his favor to convince his audience of sycophants that he's never wrong.

>>513771585
>his image and credibility.
lol
lmao even
The guy is a turbo-clown from Mars. Look at him! It's even funnier that he's bad at video games that he's wasted his life on.

>>513771489
and I forgot, oh, according to Karl in Kangarooland after you're bankrupt for three years all your debt gets wiped away. Wtf? How is Straya a real country?

>>513771567
That's literally what Karl said he did, he "sold" his house to his wife so BIlly can't take it.

Also, no I refuse to have any compassion for a failed pick up artist ricemixer.

>>513771472
https://youtu.be/NsK4VMYEMSE

13 minutes and 30 seconds

>>513771585
>it was about his image and credibility.
>the guy who uses lawfare to defend his pretty easily disproven world record at donkey kong
MAME is easier to play than DK hardware. This is a consensus. Emulators have better input latency and system consistency making it easier to play. He also had a non regulation joystick, *POSSIBLY* an 8 position joystick which is not allowed. It is known he used MAME due to the load screen order.

>>513771525
I'm not arguing that Billy cheated. It didn't matter in court, doesn't matter now. Karl's defense was as retarded as you could possible go. And he cried like a little bitch in court. He went through 5 years of legal procedures for nothing.
How can you respect an idiot like that?

>>513771652
You know if you right-click a video, you can link to the exact second you desire?

>>513771044
Fuck you indian

>>513771690
Dude he lost a fuckign fortune. What do you want from the guy? Have you ever lost a bunch of money before?

>>513771781
Karl, I mean, random anon, I'm sure you'r-I mean he's fine. This stinks of a showmenship. Or you'r-I mean he's a total fool who overshares.

>>513771534
speedrunning is just a massive circlejerk. You can enjoy in a casual level just learning how flaws in a game make it possible to beat it faster in unintended ways by the developer. Beyond that, pretending that grinding for 1 second time save for thousands of hours at the time is somehow remarkable and worth of praising is total brainrot. They (mostly trannies) decide what the rules are and who is allowed in the leader board, is one of the most self indulgent communities out there.

>>513771675
damn! you should sue him or something.

>>513771831
Sue him for what? He's a legal crybully and happened to be right against Karl.

>>513771818
Im not Karl. Ive dealt with lawyers a lot because of my line of work and been in major lawsuits and avoid them at all costs. My interest in this case is because i hate lawyers and lawsuits. I have no opinion on billy or Karl as people except that Karl doesn’t strike me as super dishonest. The pick up artist thing, if true, is weird i will give you that.

>>513770055 (OP)
QRD on the story?
All I know so far that the Billy dude is pajeet-tier aka he cheated himself info some trophies by cheating in a game? And that Karl dude exposed him?
Then what?

>>513771829
>You can enjoy in a casual level just learning how flaws in a game make it possible to beat it faster in unintended ways by the developer

Yes, that can be interesting, but not if they stand in a spot for 2 minutes and then press down 52 times while pressing three button fast and then smashing all buttons to fall into the ending. I can make a Game Genie do such things.
Real speedrunning (that I invented in 1989) involves playing the ENTIRE game as intended, just as fast as possible. I'm serious about inventing too.

>>513771621
Karl claimed that he was responsible for Apollo's suicide, which he wasn't.
The fact that Billy let go of Apollo without having him pay a single dime shows that Billy is not as big of an asshole as he seems.
Yes, he's a clown and childishly likes to play the villain, Yes, he most likely cheated on 40 year old video games (who cares). But you can't really say he was in the wrong from defending himself from a gay albino that was calling him murderer showing reddit screenshots as evidence.

>>513771952
I know all that, but its non-relation to the court case wasn't known until Karl admitted the truth at the very last minute.

>Yes, he's a clown and childishly likes to play the villain, Yes, he most likely cheated on 40 year old video games (who cares). But you can't really say he was in the wrong from defending himself from a gay albino that was calling him murderer showing reddit screenshots as evidence.

Yes I am forced to begrudgingly agree.

>>513771675
The lawsuit wasn't about his cheating on video games, it was about Karl's blaming Apollo's suicide on Billy.
Billy cheating was Karl's only defense, a really stupid one, even if Billy cheated in every record that he got, it doesn't make him a murderer.
Karl convinced himself that cheating in video games is the worst thing anyone can do and therefore he could call Billy a murderer.

>>513772080
Who knew speedtroons are low-IQ? Man, this is shocking. I was convinced that Karl would simply hadoken the judge if things were going badly.

>>513771781
He is a narcissist, lies through his teeth, uses his army of sycophants to bully everyone that dares to disagree with him, and refuses to admit wrong doing, ever.
I simply can't listen or respect someone like that, losing the case and learning about all the shit he omitted on his videos just to save face is disgusting.

>speedtroon tries to find exploits in real life
I'm surprised you can just give all your money and assets to your family and just say oops no money and not have to pay court fees. Sounds way too convenient. Why don't more Australians defame people if it's that easy?

>>513771926
Karl hatched a plan to frame Billy for encouraging a suicide, which he did not do. That way, the judge would just agree with everything Karl said.
He's a grown man allegedly and I didn't just read a transcript of a random middle schooler plot.

>>513772205
>He is a narcissist, lies through his teeth, uses his army of sycophants to bully everyone that dares to disagree with him, and refuses to admit wrong doing, ever.

But enough about Silly Bitchell.

Here’s the only math that should matter. Both sides spent upwards of 500k and maybe even 700k each on lawyers. That means lawyers got more than 1 million dollars richer in total. I think it was like 1.4 million dollars richer. Compare that to how much billy recovered which I think was like 250k. Just contemplate how crazy that is. God damn i fucking hate lawyers.

>>513772277
billy only plays the asshole narcissist because its a brand for him, karl was a actual narcissist asshole

>>513770397
Lmao you got scammed you fucking retard, writing a single letter like that costs 300 bucks tops
Holy shit you really paid 3500 to some street shitter

>>513771936
at the end of the day video games are just a waste of time, so you enjoy your wasted time as you want.
Is the delusion of grandness some of them get because they have some "world record" on self imposed challenge that most likely than not adds nothing productive to society beyond inane entertainment.

>>513772363
Thats what you think until you start actually dealing with lawyers buddy.

>>513772357
>billy only plays the asshole narcissist
LOL so you don't know....

>karl was a actual narcissist asshole

*an
Hey, they both can gay marry each other for all I care, but make no mistake, Billy can't play video games to save his life, so he sues people. Karl can't play games to save his life, so he cheats, then goes after other cheaters.
Poopery.

>>513772205
OKAY GIVE THE QRD THEN WHAT HAPPENED?!

I've now googled around some and the only thing I can stitch together is that because this happened in Australia, they are retarded like UK and don't have proper free speech and because half of their leadership are kike pedophiles they have strict laws against exposing other people so .pdf file kikes could not be exposed.

So this Billy character cheated himself to a guinness world record in pacman and donkeykong, this Karl exposed him as fraud and got the Guiness world record removed, but because this Billy is a kike pedophile he started doing "defamation" lawfare against Jobst and somehow won his lawsuit by the help of kike lawyers and the kiked Australia law system, and because of this got his Guinness records re-established and now Jobst has to pay Billy money?! Because Jobst couldn't unequivocally prove that Billy cheated, even though it was obvious that he did?

>>513772423
I've dealt with lawyers. An uncomplicated case with a landlord can easily involve 15 letters being sent, assuming it never even goes to court. That would cost $4500 at 300 per letter, reasonable, people do this all the time. At your Indian scam price that would be over 50k and you haven't even got to court, lmfao.

>>513772367
>at the end of the day video games are just a waste of time
Granted, but then again having a good time is never a waste of time. Shit, I pay Nintendo 20 bucks a year just so I can crush the egos of SF II players. I'm sure I've made some of them smash their consoles. Good times. :)

>>513772053
>I know all that, but its non-relation to the court case wasn't known until Karl admitted the truth at the very last minute.
he purposely hid it from his audience. He also made a gofundme asking for money for a "second lawsuit" that never happened. He helped on the creation of an hour long video shitting in Apollo and then used his suicide as an excuse to shit on Billy.
The more you learn about the guy, the more you realize he's full of shit, he would lie to you with a straight face and them call you and idiot for believing him and blame you for having critical thinking.

>>513772423
Naw, you got ripped open, buddy. Sorry. I came up with nearly the same amount before that anon replied.

>>513772255
>Karl hatched a plan to frame Billy for encouraging a suicide
How can you even frame for such thing? Did he falsify evidence or something?
So far this all seems like this Jobst dude was just exposing a cheating kike and he got slammed for it because UK/Australia don't have free speech and you can get jailed for making an angry post against immigrant rapists, pic rel

>>513772053
also the only reason he "admitted" anything it was because people was calling him out on his bs. Otherwise you'd never heard about it from him.

>>513772498
He did more that write the letter. We talked on the phone for like an hour and then he drew up the final terms. Also he charged me for 1/2 hour each time he picked up the phone with me which is the standard in the USA. The initial retainer was reasonable like 1500. Dude once they suck you in they milk you.

>>513772514
>He also made a gofundme asking for money for a "second lawsuit" that never happened

You just know that went into a new rec room for the family.
>He helped on the creation of an hour long video shitting in Apollo

That I did not know. Fuck that robotic-voiced fem-faced jackass.

>>513772573
How do you guys know all about this?
Since nu-/pol/ is fucking dead and nobody bothers posting QRDs anymore at least some anon post a link to article or vid where you get all this info
I want to make my own informed opinion on this matter, as in did Jobst actually do wrong or did he just expose a kike and this thread has lying jews who hate getting exposed for lies

>>513772571
>How can you even frame for such thing? Did he falsify evidence or something?

He cherry-picked a screengrab of Billy making a joke that appeared to fit the narrative. That was proven by the way, hence Karl losing and getting reprimanded.

>>513770055 (OP)
>gets hundreds of thousands of dollars
>buys a winnebago

Why are so many speedrunners trannies? I cannot countenance Karl promoting ths shit on a mass scale.

>>513772571
An Islamic migrant didnt do that murder. Also ans far ad I know most of the people convicted were inciting violence. People to burn down a mosques all over the UK. Are you insane?

>>513772599
Dude, no. 500 bucks tops. Yes, for "all that", which wasn't anything for a decent lawyer.
Shit, I had a creepy lawyer write a letter of apology for free--TO ME because he was a dick for no reason. What does that tell you?

>>513772599
Nah pretty sure you got scammed

>>513772683
Okay so he didn't' falsify evidence. How can mere cherry-picking to make a narrative (thats extremely jewish too, btw) be illegal? Again not convinced this isn't some Australia bullshit where you can't call a kike a pedo because their laws are designed for you to be under boot of the monarchy and their kike banker friends instead of being good to the people.

But what you're saying now is that a kike exposed jew, and then both of them were jewish?

>>513770416
Lmfao what a fuckin cope and a half

>>513772461
The albino Australian faggot tried to pin a suicide from his friends' bullying on Billy and lied to his audience that it was actually about cheating on a speedrun. His evidence to the court was chatgpt and reddit screencaps and Billy is a lying evil stinky bad bad man. The guy fired a lawyer paid for by the creator of Minecraft who told him to just apologize and settle out of court and found a yes man lawyer then lost like his first lawyer said would happen. The judge saw he was unhinged and obsessive and would never apologize. He structured his YouTube as a LLC and sold his house to his wife so he could file for bankruptcy and try to cheat paying his court fees. Then made a 2 hour rant about Billy and to brag about how he's cheating his payments.

>>513772797
Well i dont fucking know dude. Are you arguing that lawyers and lawsuits are good? Because im taking the opposite stance.

>>513772821
He's completely autistic, he believed if he could prove Billy cheated at Donkey Kong, it would discredit him and allow him to win the case. It didn't make any sense, because his speedtranny brain doesn't work like a normal person. Just listen to the abnormal way he talks, this guy is literally autistic

>>513772800
>>513772797
This is why i dont deal with Indians. Once they bill you what are you gonna do? He knew the entire reason i retained him was to avoid a lawsuit. What if that fucker tried to sue me? I just paid the crook his money.

>>513772811
It's not illegal, just unintelligent to the extreme. The case was always regarding the claim that Billy encouraged a man to kill himself. Turns out, that was a lie perpetrated by Karl. He made up the lie that the case was centered squarely on Billy unfairly suing Karl and others for calling out Billy's cheating, with alleged proof. Turns out, Karl does have concrete proof that Billy stinks on ice when playing vidya, but too bad the case was on the other issue.
So, in Karl's 5-year-old mind, if he could *prove* that Billy cheated, then he could glitch the judge into thinking that in that scenario Billy would also be guilty of encouraging a suicide

I can't explain it any better.

>>513772848
No, just saying that your wallet got fondled, abused, and impregnated by a jeet, is all.

>>513771400
Wtf?! I love Billy now!

>>513772821
> tried to pin a suicide from his friends' bullying on Billy
Nigger it really isn’t that big of a leap to claim Apollo stress out from dealing with Billy may have contributed to him killing himself.

Karl is a tranny speed runner, but I really believe this is just a case of Australia being gay and lacking freedom speech.

>>513770055 (OP)
Hello you absolute legends in today's video we are going to file my divorce papers for my mail order bride and I will start working at McDonald's to pay Billy

>>513773100
Well i do a lot to promote Indian hate on the internet now.

>>513771926
Karl gets sued by Billy for defamation.
Karl claims lawsuit is over him calling Billy being a cheater.
Karl loses the lawsuit and owes Billy everything he has.
Court stuff becomes public. It turns out Karl asserted that Billy encouraged children to commit suicide. That claim was what the defamation lawsuit was over.

Billy has every right to gloat, especially considering how constantly smug Karl was about the lawsuit on his social media.

>>513772761
Holy shit what the fuck are you talking about, basically all the rapists groomers and murderers in UK are shitskinned vermin from MENA, pakistan and india and most of them are muslim shitskins parasites pedophiles, their whole religion is about pedophilia the shitskinned vermin muhammad they call their prophet was a pedophile that raped a 8 year old girl.
Its not going on only in UK but everywhere in Europe you shitskinned bioweapons that the jews sent just lie about it.
And the UK helps them you aren't allowed to even protest against shitskinned vermin they get jail time for fucking facebook posts, they had a jeet and now a kike PM back-to-back UK is absolutely fucking cooked.

And no people are not "burning down mosques all over UK" that would be a good thing if they did but their government is stopping them from burning down these invader landmarks.
Of COURSE you should burn down ALL mosques in White territories, none of them belong here and shouldn't be here in the first place.
In a reasonable world obviously shitskins and their mosques would be banned from White countries but because of jews they aren't.

Thanks for pointing out though that you're a shitskinned, lying vermin, to ignore your posts as you do nothing but lie.

>>513773179
Would the lawsuit have failed in the usa?

>>513773187
In all seriousness, please don't be full of hate, just simply expose them for the sabotaging fucktards that they are. Hatred in our hearts is bad. Stating truth is good, doughimmer.

>>513773179
>Nigger it really isn’t that big of a leap to claim Apollo stress out from dealing with Billy may have contributed to him killing himself.

oh mean the thing apollo himself denied on video? He literally said it had nothing to do with billy at all and that he is suffering from a terminal illness you braindead cunt

>>513773217
The 3 girls were murdered by a Christian African black kid not a Muslim . You’re acting like a hysterical idiot. Facts are facts

>>513772923
He's severely mentally ill with a God complex. He thinks he can cast judgement on whoever he wishes and his 16 year old zealots will harass them. The judge is right that he's not someone that will ever change his mind when he decides on something. If he's in a straight jacket he'll be scratching on the walls that Billy cheated. On his deathbed he'll tell his chink mutt son that Billy is a liar.

>>513772461
>some guy called Apollo Legend makes videos about Billy calling him a cheater
>Billy threatens to sue Apollo if the videos aren't taken down
>Billy and Apollo get to an undisclosed agreement to settle their dispute, Apollo removes the videos from his channel
>Some guy named EZscape makes a video about Apollo calling him a paranoid schizo and insinuating that Apollo had to paid Billy a large sum of money to settle their dispute, without any evidence whatsoever. Karl Jobst is thanked in the description of this video as a collaborator.
>Apollo Legend sudoku himself
>Karl start making videos about Billy calling him a cheater, and also implying Apollo killed himself because all the money he owed because of Billy
>Billy makes video claiming that what Karl said was wrong and there was not financial exchange between Apollo and himself, threatens to sue Karl because of this
>Karl contacts Apollo family and eventually gets confirmation that Apollo never had to pay anything to Billy
>Karl makes a "correction" on his Apollo claim to his audience at the end of an unrelated Dark Souls video
>Billy says this is not enough and he wants a real apology, and wants all the videos taken down.
>Karl says fuck it
>Billy goes ahead with the lawsuit, he's trying to defend himself for being called a murderer
>Karl only defense is "Billy cheats on video games, his reputation is on the ground because of this so his image can't be damaged any further by implying he is a murderer"
>case ends after years of litigation, judge concludes that Karl is a vindictive cunt and what he said about Billy was defamation, awarding Billy hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages and lawyers costs
>Karl declares bankruptcy, everything is owned by his wife so Billy will never get any money, somehow this is a win to his eyes
I omitted a couple of things related to sketchy gofundmes, misleading his audience and harassing defectors.

>>513773279
> The 3 girls were murdered by a Christian African black kid not a Muslim
So not white lmao.

>>513773179
If the guy who commits suicide says it's not because of someone and his parents say it's not because of that person then maybe it's not. Unless you're going to say actually he was too mentally ill to reason his own suicide.

>>513770397
You know what the funny thing is? You can literally do it yourself pro se by typing up a one page motion and submitting it to the prothonetary at the local courthouse. It might be 50 bucks for the filing fee

>>513773062
Ohhh now I realize so Billy *did* cheat and because Jobst exposed hm, Billy then went against Jobst not on the cheating but for an unrelated issue, like a jew would.
But that Jobst then made people think that the lawsuit itself wasn't just because he exposed the kike, but that the lawsuits contents was about the cheating and not lawfare using an unrelated issue?

Okay I found this article about it
>https://kennedyslaw.com/en/thought-leadership/case-review/2025/this-is-not-a-game-online-falsehoods-will-cost-you/

So that Billy jew didn't just sue Jobst but he also sued that Apollo guy? And then Apollo committed suicide?
It's not a stretch to claim that the lawsuit against Apollo by Billy could push someone that is already mentally ill over to suicide. The lawsuit also stipulated that Apollo had to nuke his youtube channel even though he did nothing wrong.

So I'm heavily leaning now towards that neither Apollo nor Jobst did anything wrong, but because Billy is a cheating kike which answers to accusations with doubling down on his lies, when he get accused of cheating he starts campaign of lawfare against his accusers and because he got better kike lawyers he wins even though he is in the wrong.

This is what the case currently looks like to me.

>>513772668
this guy followed the whole trial, he was initially pro karl but as things came to light he started digging on all the bullshit. Also Kiwifarms
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHeKMczsYZfA4J4gj67sj5PhJRyZGTfMQ

>>513773405
Horrible idea. Here's a new angle you don't hear anywhere: if you go pro se, you will have immediately offended the judge. Yes. Offended. They view Whites that defend themselves as seeing themselves as above the court and that they are wiser because afterall, they didn't need to go to law school or pass a bar exam.
-t. got told the real skinny by an attorney who is friends with judges n stuff

>>513773279
anon around 1 million children have been raped by pakistani muslim trash in the uk, do please kill yourself

>>513773347
People were inciting violence against Muslims for a crime done by a Christian African black kid. How does that make sense? All the accounts that initially attributed it to Muslims were Indians. How does being useful idiots for Hindutva scum and Jews benefit whites? If the British government want to execute the Pakistanis for the grooming gang cases 20 years ago they should have done that but they shouldn’t falsely attribute crimes to people that didn’t do it.

>>513773504
That’s completely false doesn’t even make sense

>>513773443
Yes, but Karl did lie to everyone and that's wrong. He became the enemy he set out to destroy.

>>513772668
The Aussie e-celeb faggot was spammed on /v/ for years and then threads were made about the actual court cases and sometimes threads ended up on /pol/ when jannies got upset.

>>513772821
Some misinformation here,
There were never a different lawyers, Karl got the most expensive lawyers he could find because in his retard mind expensive = good, and Notch was sponsoring him. Notch help stopped after a couple of months so he had deal with the rest of the cost by himself (scamming his audience with gofound mes pretending there was more than 1 lawsuit) and Notch also cameback to pay for the last couple of months before the trial.

>>513773279
No, that was just bullshit. That migrant was actually muslim he even posted about his muslim faith, he did apply for asylum PRETENDING to be christian so he could claim asylum on the grounds of being oppressed by muslims in his home country.
Exactly like picrel islamic rapefugees when ISIS were getting beat down, they claimed in their asylum applications that they were 'running from ISIS' when in reality they WERE the ISIS.

Its long time from that case now but apparently you shitskinned shills are still pushing this "he was a christian" false narrative bullshit to defend islamic shitskinned vermin parasites, who are raping children EVERYWHERE in Europe not just in UK

Ignore this memeflag shitskin, he is islamic and a brother and a bioweapon of the jew, and a descendant of the jeet. Anything that a jew/jeet/arab ever says is a lie

>>513773602
Did he not have a lawyer tell him his court case is unwinnable? I vaguely remember people saying that. He probably tried racking up the court fees because he was sure he would win since chatgpt told him he would and Billy would have to pay them.

>>513773660
So you’re just going to lie becuase you want it to be Muslim so bad? That proves you’re acting like a hysterical woman. Axel and his family attended church. Why are you a triad to blame blacks? Because you’re a useful idiot for Hindutva and Jews

>>513773797
Why are you refusing to blame blacks? Is it because it’s PC to blame Muslims? What a faggot

>>513773719
You have to understand who Karl is, he is unhinge and he would never "bent the knee". He's a narcissist and trying to settle is something that he would never do, for him is victory or dead.
That said, he tried to settle with Billy, but Billy wanted a real apology and all the videos that mentioned him taken down from his channel, Karl would never agree to this so they went to trial because they couldn't get to an agreement.

>Did he not have a lawyer tell him his court case is unwinnable?
at the beginning on the lawsuit he was backed by Notch, minecraft fame Notch, so he got the most expensive lawyers money can buy because expensive = good, right?
They probably suggested settlement, but because of the conditions that Billy was asking for, Karl didn't go through with it. And at the end of the day, these lawyers were getting paid hundred of thousand of dollars just for agreeing with everything a retard ruining his life was saying, so why stop him?

>>513773504
20 convictions but somehow 1 million girls were raped you far right lunatics are are perfect useful idiots. So the solution is unlimited Hindu immigrants that support Israel. You’re getting played like a fucking fiddle

>>513773528
> People were inciting violence against Muslims for a crime done by a Christian African black kid
The issue is that there are a bunch of non White migrants in England committing crime.
The “Christian” black kid was just the straw that broke the camel’s back.
> All the accounts that initially attributed it to Muslims were Indians
Muslim crime in Europe is still a big problem.

>>513773983
you are wondering why the goverment who literally covered it up for a decade isnt stopping it you stupid retarded shit skin moron?

>>513773327
okay thanks for finally a good QRD.
to me this still seems that Karl was wrong about the money but it surely seems that Apollo still suicided himself due to being pushed over by the lawsuit and having to nuke his channel.
from outside perspective this would look like that Apollo was a fraud and wrong about Billy being a cheater.
And there was contingent on the case that IF Apollo speaks out against billy again, THEN he has to pay.
So Apollo knows Billy is a cheater, but court orders him to be silent about it. Others are now thinking Apollo is a fraud and was never right, and he cant say that he was due to Australia being a faggot country without free speech that protects liars.
So okay for a normal person this would be a 'who cares' moment, but in the mentally ill world of speedrunning where the tensions are highest where the stakes are lowest, I could def see this pushing Apollo into committing sudoku, his reputation ruined and channel nuked even if he did nothing wrong.

So this is already count 1 of Billy winning even if he was wrong.

And now Billy starts lawfare against Jobst, who said that the lawfare from Billy caused the suicide of Apollo.
Karl didnt understand the lawsuit correctly and thought that Apollo had to pay $25,000 to Billy, not realizing that *contingent* means that he has to pay IF he ever speaks about Billy again.
And didn't Apollo have to pay court costs still as he lost? And court costs are always large, more than that $25,000 so financially he was fucked by Billy anyway.

So Karl was slightly wrong about the lawsuit result of Apollo and posted a video that contained slightly wrong information. And later retracted that part.
Then Billy does the same shit that he did against Apollo trying to censor the information that Billy is a cheater. And Jobst wasn't having any of it.

>>513774024
Well then prosecute and deport them. Don’t riot like dumb niggers and try and burn down mosques. Pass a law banning mosques if you don’t like them. Chimping out to give cover for your Jew masters want to genocide Palestinians in Palestine (Palestinians trying to stay in their homeland). You people are such cattle. Now you’re all co-opted for legal
Migrants from India.

>>513774086
Again how do you even prove or misprove whether something caused someone's suicide or not?
To me it absolutely seems that Billy's lawfare could have been cause of Apollos suicide. You can't get inside anyone's head and prove it one way or another.

I don't think that Karl would be doing anything wrong in making this connection.
To me it seems that Billy is a kike cheater and vindictive against anyone that tries to speak against him.
Already got Apollo shut down and very likely contributed to his suicide.
And when Karl says this connection out loud, he also gets sued by Billy.

Knowing these facts how can anyone defend that kike Billy at this point or think that Jobst did anything wrong?
If you claim someone caused someone's suicide thats obviously something that everyone knows needs to be taken with grain of salt, so how the fuck is saying such thing illegal?
Only UK/Australia retarded kike things

>>513774039
Faggot. I followed these cases closely. They estimate that 1400 girls were raped but they couldn’t find them after looking for 10 years. They also couldn’t find the Pakistani men in the end they prosecuted and convicted a total of 20 Muslims who were cabbies (who traditionally act as pimps) and Johns who were Muslim among the non Muslims. The 1 million number is extrapolated to the entire nation of Britain and based on the 1400 number which is an extrapolation as well

>>513774162
The riots were absolutely justified after years of their government backstabbing them.
> You people are such cattle. Now you’re all co-opted for legal Migrants from India.
Nobody wants that either.

>>513773179
>Karl is a tranny speed runner, but I really believe this is just a case of Australia being gay and lacking freedom speech.
Yeah this is my point here too. Freedom of speech is the most important liberty to have and if you don't have it you get UK where you aren't able to protest against shitskin invader bioweapons and jews that brought them anymore.

>>513773983
>20 convictions but somehow 1 million girls were raped you
Because the kike judges let the shitskinned rapists walk free while convicting UK people for wrongthink

This is my point also maybe this is already second self-outed shitskin in this thread.
Like are the Billy defenders all shitskinned vermin and kike pedophiles that dont want free speech.
Because the whole case seems like loss for free speech. Which of course shitskinned vermin love because they want to be able to slither into White countries and then have Whites be banned from speaking against them

>>513770146
>she had to take out loans to buy Karl’s half.
by memory there was no mention of loans, it sounds like the money came from the slopes back home

>The exact number of “Muslim men” convicted depends on whether you count only those who self-identified as Muslim, or simply those of Pakistani Muslim heritage reported in the press.
From my review of the cases: it’s on the order of 15–20 Muslim men convicted in Rotherham specifically.

>Compare that to the estimated 1,400 victims: only a tiny fraction of cases led to convictions at all. The report’s figure is not tied directly to those individuals.

>>513774255
>They also couldn’t find the Pakistani men
You are lying through your teeth you fucking shitskin vermin.
A shitton of shitskins have been prosecuted for the rape but thats like 1% of the rapists because most cases arent even prosecuted in the joke that is UK and when they are the shitskins are let off free while the cops are looking for Whites making social media posts

The two-tier policing is absolutely clear to everyone here and you trying to lie it doesnt happen like the shitskin you are doesnt make it any less true

>>513774272
Thats what your movement stands for stupid. Why are you so fucking easy to coopt? You’re never ever going to accomplish anything like the dumb niggers you are

>>513774374
Those are mugshots you absolute faggot. No proof they are rapists. I can see that many of them are Sikhs and whites too.

>>513770709
Kike lawyer wins again

>>513774255
And btw muslim shitskins are not over-represented in crime especially sexual and violent crime in just UK but EVERYWHERE in Europe, including my home.
You shitskinned vermin with your jeet and negro blood are so fucking incredible like you're saying that we should close our eyes and pretend that your shitskinned crime isn't happening WE CAN ALL SEE IT YOU FUCKING RETARD

Just like those jeets defending their scams and truckers who wipe out families WE CAN SEE WHAT YOUR KIND ARE DOING and lying like the shitskin you are that it isnt happening only makes us more angry against you vermin-rat jewish bioweapons

>>513770552
Yeah, the lawsuit wasn't "did billy cheat", it was "did billy cause the suicide of someone".
Pretty easy case. Karl was a retard for pushing that.

>>513774086
>Apollo still suicided himself due to being pushed over by the lawsuit and having to nuke his channel.
he only had to delete Billy's videos, his channel was fine
something that I forgot to mention is that Apollo made a suicide video where he said he is killing himself because some health issues he had to deal his whole life, never mentions Billy, but thanks EZscape for "giving him" the final push.
Remember that he never had to pay anything to Billy, and he killed himself months after the Billy thing. If anything Billy was really merciful with Apollo if you asked me.
Billy still a litigious cunt and a cheater, but I don't believe you can Apollo's death on him. Mentally healthy people don't just kill themselves.
>And didn't Apollo have to pay court costs still as he lost? And court costs are always large, more than that $25,000 so financially he was fucked by Billy anyway.
they settle before going to court, so even if Apollo had to paid for a lawyer to settle with Billy this would have been substantially less than the 400k+ Karl owns to Billy after losing

>So Karl was slightly wrong about the lawsuit result of Apollo and posted a video that contained slightly wrong information. And later retracted that part.
he wasn't slightly wrong, he only heard rumors about it on the internet and claimed it was true without any evidence. There was never a lawsuit because Apollo and Billy settled out of court.

>Then Billy does the same shit that he did against Apollo trying to censor the information that Billy is a cheater. And Jobst wasn't having any of it.
He was defending himself from being called a murderer by Karl, Karl whole defense was that Billy was a cheater and his image was already damaged so calling him a murderer wouldn't harm it any further, which is massively stupid. Only thing Karl talks about is how big of a cheater is so everyone was misled into thinking that the lawsuit was about cheating and not about Apollo's allegations.

>>513774481
>because I can find White people that committed crime in a White country means that shitskins are allowed to commit crimes in a White country too !!!!1111
>also I dont understand per-capita because i'm a shitskinned retard vermin

>>513774165
What Karl said was that Apollo *had* to pay Billy a lot of money to settle out of court, without any evidence.
This is factually false. Apollo never paid Billy anything, is a lie and therefore defamation.
Even if it influenced Apollo's suicide, you can't blame the whole thing on him, specially when other members of the speedrunning community were doing hit pieces on Apollo before his suicide.
Here is the video EZscape did on Apollo where Karl is cited on the description as a contributor. If you asked me this video would be more likely to cause someone to kill himself than the Billy incident. If anything Karl is more directly responsible for Apollo's suicide than Billy.
https://archive.org/details/the-downfall-of-apollo-legend-feat.-billy-mitchell-todd-rogers-dark-viper-au_202012

>>513774449
>Cat calling a woman in Finland is sexual offense.

Key Figures for 2017
• The overall number of rape cases recorded was 1,272, marking a 9% increase from the previous year .
• In cases where the suspect’s identity was known (994 rape cases), foreign nationals were suspected in 285, which is nearly 29% of those cases .
• Looking at all sex offences (not limited to rape): of 2,418 cases with known suspect identities, 568 were committed by foreign nationals, or just over 23

568 cases total cases like 90% of which are girls that regretted having sex. How do we get to 1 million girls raped?


If you don’t want migrants then ban them. Stop being a useful idiot for kikes

>>513774544
I did the exact same thing you did except my cases are recent and not just unlabeled mugshots

>>513774165
I'm not necessarily defending Billy either, I admit that he is most likely a cheater on 40 year old video games, but who cares? it's not like he is harming anyone by doing this.
He is also a litigious asshole, but the fact that he let go Apollo legend without having him paid anything at least show that he isn't after ruining anyone's life.

This is just the story about 2 narcissists trying to one up each other, the only difference to me is that Billy at least doesn't pretend to be blameless victim.

>>513774316
>money came from the slopes
everything rolls downhill huh

>>513771952
>>513774520
>The fact that Billy let go of Apollo without having him pay a single dime shows that Billy is not as big of an asshole as he seems
>If anything Billy was really merciful with Apollo if you asked me.
First of all from what I understand is that the judge ordered the $25,000 contingent penalty so it wasn't about Billy "being merciful" but rather than a penalty imposed by the judge as a deterrent to not talk about Billy again.
And "merciful" really the word you use, you sue a man with health problems because he correctly called you out for being a cheater, although due to kike lawyering can't prove it in court of law, not that some video game cheating claim should even ever be in a court of law thats retarded in the first place.

>but I don't believe you can Apollo's death on him
Yeah that part is obviously unknowable you can't get into anyone's head. That's why claiming someone had effect on his suicide shouldn't be illegal because you can't truly know it either way and this is of course obvious to everyone.

>he wasn't slightly wrong, he only heard rumors about it on the internet and claimed it was true without any evidence
well the fact is that Apollo obviously had to pay massive legal costs. misunderstanding the part that the money went to lawyers and not to billy, and that the $25,000 extortion was only IF he speaks further on Billy, I'd call that being just slightly wrong and not in a deliberate jewish trying to misdirect way, but in just doing a honest little mistake that doesnt matter that much wrong.

>>513770055 (OP)
Sounds unironically criminal what Karl is doing. I don't believe his gook wife won't take all his shit.

>>513770416
In the court of public opinion Billy was redeemed and Karl absolutely torn to shreds. I thought Billy was a shitheel, now i realize he's based after dumpstering youtubers.

Dude clearly isn't hurting for money. Seems Karl is.

>>513774520
>muh murderer
So what if you call someone murderer I can call you a murderer there is supposed to be FREE SPEECH. Its obviously to everyone with a brain cell that whether he is really a "murderer" or not whether he had a stake in the suicide would be left up to everyone to decide.
Causing someone that already has health problems massive financial trouble, on top of making it seem like Apollo was wrong in his accusations just because a court murdered him and forced him to delete the videos with the accusations, plus then the other youtubers getting on Apollos case claiming he's wrong because of that could all contribute to the suicide.
And anyway its obvious to anyone that is unknowable so how the fuck can court decide this is not allowed speech. Let the people decide for themselves for fucks sake.

I am not a speedrun tranny and wouldnt kill myself over something like that, but if I made a video about some kike scammer and then using lawfare the kike would force me to shut up and never speak about it again making it look like I was wrong even when I wasn't, but that I just got court sniped by kike, I would be absolutely fucking fuming just out of principle

>>513770203
If you were Karl, you'd be crying like a fat little bitch in your basement as people enter your run-down appartment and take away your electronic toys to pay the debt.

>>513774964
>Dude clearly isn't hurting for money.
Yeah from quick searching it seems that Billy turned his fraud career in video games into money for him. Kinda like jeets when they come to White countries and turn their scamming and fraud into money.

And it seems that because he had money and Australian courts are as kiked and cucked when it comes to speech as UK ones are, he could go after people telling the truth about him.
Reminds me of ADL pushing for laws that makes telling the truth about the Holohoax illegal.

Or how UK prosecutors sent letters to USA that 4chan is being prosecuted for speech violations and the USA state department basically told the UK to fuck off which was hilariously based
While USA is kiked in many ways it seems that today the other White countries are even more kiked, especially the Anglosphere ones where you cant even say "fuck immigrants" anymore without going to jail

>>513770416
Anon. If you have multiple millions of dollars and lose 500k, and your opponent declares bankrupcy and is literally owned by his wife to ensure you lose that 500k. Who actually lost.

>>513775082
Why does anyone defend Billy now that I can't understand. Are you all shitskins or what is your thinking? As a White man who thinks free speech is inalienable right I cannot fathom why any other White man would defend Billy that goes against fucking SPEECH in cucked Australia and wins

>>513774865
>First of all from what I understand is that the judge ordered the $25,000 contingent
there were not judges because the settle out of court.
Apollo's videos were about speedrunning but he found a golden goose with Billy so he kept making videos about him. Billy

>well the fact is that Apollo obviously had to pay massive legal costs
you don't know that, and you should really see the EZscape video here https://archive.org/details/the-downfall-of-apollo-legend-feat.-billy-mitchell-todd-rogers-dark-viper-au_202012 to understand all the other shit Apollo had going against him, including by Karl jobst himself.

here is the apollo legend suicide video, https://archive.org/embed/apollo-legends-suicide-note you could argue that Apollo didn't mention Billy in case the suicide failed so he didn't want to get any fines, but certainly there were more things on his head than just money and Billy

>>513774980
accusing someone of murder is not free speech, you could say you believe something and that's fine, but what Karl did was to claim that Billy was the one reason why Apollo committed suicide because all the money involved in the supposed settlement that never happen. No evidence, no witness, no nothing, only reddit and 4chan screenshots. Karl is a massive retard that believes he is above everyone else and that he can get away with anything.

>>513775123
Yeah this much is true, Billy had the money for the fight to go against much poorer Karl and Apollo and could hire the best kike lawyers and win by that, and could take a hit of some lawyer expenses which the other side couldn't.

In fact this is how jews all over often win court cases they aren't even right but they have the best expensive lawyers use every possible technicality to win which the opposing side can't counter, and also deliberately drag out court cases so the opposing side would run out of money.
You should never fight against jews with the law they have corrupted the courts to be their tools, as seen in the George Floyd case where an innocent cop got sentenced for 22 years because a multiple-felon nigger with a heart condition died of a meth+fentanyl overdose.

Jews need to be fought against with bullets, not in courts. You cant vote jews out of White territory just like you can't kill jews in courts, but you can kill jews with bullets.

>>513770055 (OP)
i bought 5 bottles of his hot sauce since the lawsuit victory.
never bought it before and to be honest i was kind of on karls side at first. mostly because of the lies that the lawsuit was about. karl encouraged people to watch the livestream of the judgment. dumbest shit karl couldve done. immediately was on Billy's side and ordered a bottle.
its really good hot sauce. opinion of Billy aside. its my favorite hot sauce. I used to use cholula on everything, but Ricky's Hot Sauce is significantly better.

>>513775165
>As a White
No white person ever starts a sentence with "As a White man"
>would defend Billy that goes against fucking SPEECH
If we allow defamation based on shaky grounds, then one good rumor can destroy any business or any life.
Stick to the facts or STFU, is my prescription.

>>513775183
>you don't know that
Of course I do. Lawsuits are literally always expensive and never free. Apollo lost the case so he would have had to pay at least his own costs but likely also Billy's

Of course he had lot of things going on but that EZscape video wouldn't have happened without that Billy's lawfare, so would that Apollo still have commited suicide if Billy didn't bring his life crashing down? Maybe, maybe not.

In any case its UNKNOWABLE so obviously any claim that Billy caused it is something that might or might not be true and nobody can know it, obviously saying something like that shouldnt be illegal.

Like if some kike raped a little girl and that girl later committed suicide maybe even years later.
It should absolutely be legal to say that the kike's rape possibly caused the suicide, everyone knows its impossible to actually know one way or other

>>513775377
It's hard to get it shipped to Australia.

>>513775455
again, Karl claimed there was money exchanged and that never happened.
Using you analogy, if you claimed an immigrant raped a little girl and then that little girl killed herself, but is later found out that a different immigrant was the one that raped her you can't really go around saying that the first immigrant is a rapist.

>>513774450
Leave it to a speedrunner to try and glitch court.

>>513775296
the fact is that Apollo would have been in financial trouble due to the lawyer costs alone, it really isnt that relevant exactly who ended up with the money the point was Apollo's financial loss.

And that financial loss was from a forced capitulation even though Apollo was right, so I cant understand how anyone can defend Billy here who very likely might have caused the death of Apollo and thus calling him a murderer isnt out of the question.
As the case was settled out of court it seems that the kike Billy kiked Apollo, that Apollo didnt have the money or health or strength to see the case through and capitulated EVEN THOUGH HE WAS RIGHT
So in Apollos case we already see that Billy is kike that bullies other people that are right through kiked lawfare

Also have you not realized that people call each other names all the time who the fuck cares this isnt something that you're supposed to be able to take someone to court over

It seems obvious that Jobst case is just a continuation of this, Apollo wasnt wrong, Jobst wasnt wrong, but both got fucked because Australia is cucked, and Billy has the money for kiked lawfare

Thats my point here that court lawsuits and settlements are fucking broken if you have the money and the kikes you can go after people and if they dont have the money to litigate it to the end you win by default like in the Apollo case

So its absolutely unfathomable to me that anyone would defend Billy here.

I must ask you >>513775296 , what is the flag that lies behind that memeflag and are you a White man?

>>513775596
the better analogy would be that i claimed an immigrant raped a little girl and stole his phone, wallet with $100 in it, and a watch while doing it, and then the girl killed herself and the rape was the cause.
but later it was found out that there wasnt actually money in the wallet and i was wrong about that.

>>513770641
>The law isn't some poorly coded game from the mid 1990s.
Underrated

>>513770146
>The dude doesnt have a pot to piss in.
how do you get to that with successful youtube channel?
I make pennies but I'm doing alright, lol

>>513775446
So are you White? (jews and arabs are not White)

>>513770055 (OP)
Billy is one of the greatest gamers of all time, Karl should have thought this thing through

>>513770055 (OP)
Lmao imagine caring about some washed up scammer's score in PACMAN from 1985 lmfao like how the fuck is this nigger even distantly relevat I can't

>>513775834
From my understanding the lawsuit drained all his money
And he had just bought a house in Australia which has a totally fucked housing market due to jews destroying the White Australia policy and the govt-regulated housing and housing-loan market, so they could start making profits on immigrants and housing. Think canada with 20 pajeets to a house paying rent to a jeet/jew landlord, thats what Australia today is like too.

>why would anyone cheer against an obsessive vindictive cancel e-celeb who lied to his own audience for money
No clue

>>513775956
Imagine the smell

>>513775956
I've now watched this "internet archivist" video for the overview
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwwR-nYcpTc

Yeah its obvious that Karl is an autist but i don't think he done anything wrong and Billy is a fucking kike scammer that kiked both Apollo and Jobst due to simply being better at kikery.

So my final conclusion for people jumping on the Billy side isn't that they're necessarily against free speech, but that they're sheep NPC's that go with the 'winner'.
Now that Billy is gloating and taking Karl's money and bankrupting him, NPCs want to take the 'winner's side and then even claim "ohh I was actually always on his side" because people dont have convictions and are retarded.
I think if the lawsuit had went the other way then people'd be saying "ohh yeah massive respect for jobst putting that scammer in his place"

>>513770055 (OP)
wrong board you faggot zoomer

>>513776142
And here's the quote that won Billy the lawsuit

Karl:
>He also sued YouTuber Apollo Legend for $1 million. I haven't spoken about this publicly but this lawsuit ultimately ended with Apollo giving in and settling with Mitchell. He was forced to remove all of his videos about Mitchell's cheating, and payed him a large sum of money. This left him deeply in debt, which required him to find extra work. But with his health issues, this was all too much of a burden and he ultimately took his own life.

>https://youtu.be/PwwR-nYcpTc?t=630

So he didn't call him a "murderer" not that it should matter, and even if the "large sum of money" didn't actually went to Billy but the lawyers, who cares. Billy caused that financial loss while he also was a cheater and in the wrong and Apollo did nothing wrong.

And I, as a White man, can't see anything wrong in Karl's statement there either. Apollo was right, he got sued by Mitchell, who btw has history of kiking people with lawsuits before, and forced Apollo to settle probably due to lack of funds, put a man with bunch of physical and mental health issues into financial dire straits while getting to gloat that his accusers are wrong and that he isnt a cheater, which he is.

I can't really understand anyone siding with Billy to me it seems that bunch of sycophants with jeet-like hiveminds simply want to side with with the winner and that's the only reason they side with Billy.

This guy is getting sentimental for the albino with chinkspawn

>>513773062
that sad moment when you realize the right guy from "then" is troon "now"

>>513775690
You are fucking retarded.
>the fact is that Apollo would have been in financial trouble due to the lawyer costs alone, it really isnt that relevant exactly who ended up with the money the point was Apollo's financial loss.
There are no facts there. Do you know Apollos finances? How much did he pay lawyers? How much was he in debt?

You don't know because you have no facts. You have assumptions.

>So my final conclusion for people jumping on the Billy side isn't that they're necessarily against free speech, but that they're sheep NPC's that go with the 'winner'

No you fucking moron. No one should have the right to defame someone under the guise of free speech. People switched sides because Karl mislead everyone about the nature of the case Billy brought against him in order to KEEP THE GOFUNDME MONEY COMING IN. Everyone with a brain knows Billy is a cheating asshole. The NPC sheep took Karl's side like you did with no facts because of this and because Karl misled everyone. Then the case details come out and it turns out Karl is a greedy liar.

Cheated in donkey kong 40 years ago < Lied about a current case to fans in order to keep their money flowing into his pockets.

This isnt hard to understand you must have too much slant and slope in your head Fin.

>>513777357
kek, oof
reminds me of the joke
"how to get a programmer girlfriend"
1. get a progrmamer boyfriend
2. wait

there is a true trooning and pajeet epidemic in the once prestigious computer science field
it seems the straight White men are being pushed out to the point they dont even want to choose it as career anymore because who the fuck wants to work with stinky pajeets and commie troons

>>513770416
No one watches Karl anymore lol

>>513778229
i watched that internet archivist video and read now several articles of the case and the "misleading" from Karl's part was simply NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CASE at all and that it was solely about cheating was never said by Karl but rather circulated in articles by bad journalists which Karl then didnt comment on to correct, as explained here
>https://youtu.be/PwwR-nYcpTc?t=749

>Normally, I'd give you a full breakdown on this kind of thing, but because this one involves me, I'm going to keep my cards a lot closer to my chest. What I will tell you that I am being sued for defamation, and the amount of damages being sought is $450,000 [...]
>After this, I didn't talk about my lawsuit at all, for over a year. And during this time, news outlets were posting articles about how Billy was suing me for cheating. Again, this wasn't because I said this. I wasn't even talking about my lawsuit at all. These articles were being written because reporters were reading the court documents where these issues were being argued.


Again I don't see anything wrong on Karl's behalf he did not talk about the case as he was instructed by his lawyers not to as it could jeopardize the case, especially not mentioning or talking anything about the Apollo Legend case anymore.
So now his fans are "felt betrayed" because he wasn't "transparent" and talked about the case when its literally the first thing that lawyers say in any lawsuit that you do not say anything that could jeopardize it as any statement could be kiked against you in the court

Like how are people this fucking retarded to not understand it. In that video its shown that he even briefly mentions that he cant say anything about Apollo Legend right now because its part of Billy's lawsuit against him

>Billy Mitchell is referring to the YouTuber Apollo Legend who tragically took his own life in December of 2020. I won't go into specifics of this particular point because it does relate to his ongoing lawsuit against me.

>>513770641
>up to 5 years in prison
So as bad as posting a meme in a private chat
Cool

Billy Big Scores wins again.

>>513778768
Are everyone just fucking retards they don't understand how the world works, and they're so entangled with e-celeb worship that they think they have a parasocial relationship with the e-celeb thinking they're entitled to be told everything that is happening?
Even when its about a lawsuit where the first advice is to NOT TALK ABOUT IT as ANY talk could potentially jeopardize the case being framed and kiked by the opposition to be used against you

Like even that "archivist" youtuber is retarded saying that he "handwaved it away without proper depth and transparency" when he said that quote that he can't talk about it.
Like what the fuck is so hard to understand, a kike lawfare specialist is after him and he need to be careful to not get fucked.
And obviously even that wasn't enough, the kike fucked him anyway.

>>513778229
>Lied about a current case to fans
Where is this lie? It seems that you're now just making shit up to support Billy and go against free speech. From what I looked at the case what he has posted he never lied, it was the gaming journalists who, albeit unknowingly, lied about what the case was about. Not Karl.
What he's being accused of is not setting the record straight, which he COULDN'T DO, because the lawyers instructed him to not talk about it.
I don't even understand how retarded people are not talking about an ongoing court case is literally standard fare they have to had heard before the standard "cannot comment on an ongoing lawsuit" at least somewhere.

The most important question though, are you White?

>>513778768
Watch Karl's videos https://youtu.be/lUdKSLjwZTo

If you cant see how this is misleading then I'm not really surprised. You're a moron who can't separate facts from assumptions.

>>513778982
I started by coming to this thread not really knowing about this thing nor caring but it seemed at least bit interesting due to the kike lawfare part

But now it ended up with me actually getting mad because people are this fucking retarded that they are defending the lawfare kike when its clear that the kike was wrong, not apollo or karl

This is by the way also why you DO NOT let brown people in White societies they'll fucking turn them into cucked shitholes without free speech just like their own countries where you get a death penalty for criticizing allah

>>513770146
>owe money
>sell all your assets to someone else
>no longer owe money
??? How does that work
If his wife took out loans to buy his half (from him), then the value of those things - that his wife paid him - would be stuff he can pay to Billy.
If he just gifted his assets to his wife and then declared bankruptcy, then she wouldn't have had to take out loans, but also I'm pretty sure courts can annul this specifically to prevent dodging debts like that.

>>513773496
I have 4 lawyers in my family. The older ones always say this (“You’ve got to format it a particular way”) but from what I’ve observed they farm the formatting work out to their legal assistants; not even the paralegals are bothered with it. When I’ve interacted with government portals it’s actually quite straight forward and the few times I had to call someone they were a lot more helpful than you’d expect a government employee to be.

I thought the US would be like this, too, since you don’t even need to go to law school to be a judge there.

>>513779114
>On a more positive note, it really seems that Billy's legal crusade is coming to an end. All his lawsuits have been dismissed or settled. Note that Billy has never ever actuall won, the only lawsauit Billy has remaining is the one against me.
>Am I really going to be the only person Billy wins against? Oh boy, wouldn't that just be hilarious.
F :DDdd

Okay I don't really get what you're trying to get at with the video, so spell it out. He talks about another case of Billy's lawfare against his former associate that he lied to and used as a pawn. Tried to make it again so evidence about his bullshit was hidden claiming that recording his phonecalls was illegal, even though it wasn't in Ohio where Billy had called, but it is in Billy's own home state of Florida. Again tried to lawfare kike his way through but got his case dismissed.

From my point of view it seems that Billy's lawfare didn't work out in his cases in America, except Apollos case where he forced a settlement due to Apollo's lack of funds (and possibly mental strength) and thus capability to continue
But that Australia is as cucked as UK is when it comes to free speech, so Karl got fucked because he lives in a cucked country with even more kiked judges than in USA who at least uphold free speech

You also didn't answer the most important question, are you White?

>>513779114
And what he speaks about his own case in that video is almost nothing except saying it is still ongoing, he does not discuss the contents of it and does not lie or mislead in any way, the only hint towards the contents of the case is the article he shows an image @4:00 with the title
>Video game champion 'regrets' jokes about death rumor

And of course since the charge is just "defamation" these things would be stuff that Billy's lawyer would be pulling out of his kike ass during the proceedings. You don't get the exact arguments of the prosecution before they happen, obviously

>>513770055 (OP)
Karl is trying to hide his assets and keep his Youtube profits in his own pocket, but he won't get away with it. He might even end up in jail if he doesn't finally cooperate.

>B-b-but the youtube channel belongs to Karl's gook wife and he is just any employee!!!!
Yeah, good luck going down that path, Karl.

>>513770785
oh shit i missed this post and NOW i finally realized what its all about
its because Karl is White and you're all shitskins and you like seeing a White person get fucked by his own government

Shit it just became clear, people not answering the question whether they White and these non-white flags like Germany popping up to side with the kike lawfarer liar

Ahhh, just one more reason to hate browns. As if I needed any more

>>513779782
Are you White?

>>513774861
slope heads

>>513771652
>2 minutes in
>actually, it's all YOUR fault for implying I-

fucking vile

>>513771489
>Apparently giving everything you own to your wife to avoid your creditors is legal is Australia.


Literally every single boomer with money does this here.

My father in law in a rich boomer and EVERYTHING is in his wifes name, so if they try come after him for his business, none of his assets can be touched, its all in his wifes name.

>>513770416
He’s just gonna sue Karl company next

>>513779909
>34 posts by this ID
Are you speed running this thread, Mr. Karl Cuck Fanboy?

>>513775834
jewish accounting to hide assets so he doesnt have to pay. he gives his wife all his assets and divorce her so he also doesnt have to pay. if his wife would just leave him that would be comedy gold. i so hope it happens. she's a member of the eastern jew clan after all.

>>513780038
>My father in law in a rich boomer and EVERYTHING is in his wifes name, so if they try come after him for his business, none of his assets can be touched, its all in his wifes name.
Is he jewish or some other for of non-white? Sounds like he has set up some scam business like pajeets do and is just waiting for the hammer to drop and get caught, like why the fuck do such thing pre-emptively if you're doing nothing wrong

>>513770709
Then he should be able to kill hom if he can’t pay up.

>>513780168
Yeah like I said this thing piqued my interest because it seems for some reason shitskins are derailing against Karl because he is White?

You missed answering the question, are you White?

>>513780196
He is white and runs a law firm

ALL of his assets outside of the business itself are in his wife's name and her name only

>>513780038
The difference is if your wife already owns everything so you can't be sued in the first place, vs. getting a court judgement for stuff that YOU own and instead of complying you hastily shunt everything over to your wife.

>>513780046
It's insane though that you can go after someone in Australia for calling you names
Which he barely even did he just slightly insinuated that the lawfare against Apollo could have contributed to his death, which obviously is true
It seems that in Australian courts designed to protect jews even insinuations are enough to go after someone's assets

Wow, Some random attention whore I've never heard of has an opinion about something that doesn't affect me or anybody I know or have ever met! I'm outraged!

>>513771068
das raycis

>>513780259
>He is white
>and runs a law firm
Are you sure he isn't jewish :D
>ALL of his assets outside of the business itself are in his wife's name and her name only
This sounds extremely sketchy.
Like I wouldn't blame a man trying to hide your assets when shit hits a fan like in Karl's case where he really didnt do anything wrong even
But being a lawyer and pre-emptively hiding his assets, hmmm

Or actually maybe he is a lawyer has realized how kiked and cucked Australia is, that he is actually not doing anything wrong and his hiding his assets as precaution out of fear that he could get kiked at any point like Karl did?
Literally say a wrong word at some point and have a kike army come after your belongings for it.

>>513780451
>is a lawyer
*as a lawyer

>>513780280
How sure are you that Jobst hadnt already done that 10 years ago?

A lot of YouTubers do this to protect themselves too

My father in law does it because he runs a law firm and for decades hes kept his assets safe this way because if his firm ever fucks up and for some reason the legal insurance doesn't fully cover whatever fuck up happens, he doesnt have to worry about being personally sued

>>513780495
Oh right right so he isn't pulling some shady jew shit but is actually doing the asset hiding to protect himself from shady kikes
That does make sense considering how Karl just got legally murdered in Cuckstralia
I didn't know that though that you have it that bad
Can you even say "fuck jews" in Australia or will that get you in trouble?

>>513780451
Well its not like its 100% risk free

If you do this stratergy, your wife is able to kick you out of the house and take ur shit because well, by law, its all in her name, kek

You give your wife A LOT of power doing this.

Jobst is basically now financially cucked to his wife who can fuck him off any time she wants, legally, and keep all their assets.

>>513780638
Although the money part about litigation is something that you can be kiked with in all western countries
Here too lawsuits are expensive and someone with deep pockets could fuck you over with a civil suit by simply dragging it out
It does help though that there aren't many jews here so the courts do try to prevent abuse like that, to stop trying to force settlement by dragging out cases

>>513780495
>How sure are you that Jobst hadnt already done that 10 years ago?
I'm not, all I know about this case is from reading discussions on /v/ and /pol/
And everyone is saying shit like "he gave everything to his wife" or "his wife bought off all his assets". See for example >>513770146 literally saying his wife took out loans for this

Feel free to provide information to the contrary (no I'm not watching any videos by either of them)

>>513780638
>>513780736
Its not so much about Jews, its more so just about having basic asset protection when youre going about business where your assets may be at risk if you fuck up some how

>>513780687
Oh yeah you need to 100% trust your wife to do a thing like this.
On the other hand the fact that you can do that means you have a good relationship
It seems that relationships get more fucked as time goes on with cheating and divorces only going up. But in boomertimes there is/was many ironclad relationship where they truly mean the "until death do us part" part

>>513780809
I mean the part about jews is they create the legal environment where someone can go after your assets for simple mistakes
Not necessarily that it would be a jew coming after you, just that they created the environment where its possible
Kinda like they created the environment where housing is expensive and your daughter might get gang-raped, its not the jew that gang-rapes your daughter its the pack of lebos that were let in because they destroyed the White Australia Policy, if you get my point

>>513780833
Well as I said, a lot of YouTubers do this because they're at high risk of being sued.

Any profession/business that is high risk for being sued calls for this kind of asset protection stratergy

>>513780196
As a non Anglo European myself I understand why you would think this way Pekka, but be aware that anglos are basically the same as kikes and will go above and beyond to legally fuck anyone and anything they deem a worthy target if they can make some money off of it. They seem to see the world as a massive hunger game but with lawsuits instead of weapons, something like that.
So yeah even some random indie game dev will have a limited liability company and put as much shit under their wife's name as possible.

>>513770055 (OP)
Karl deserves for turning against his friend RWhiteGoose, who helped him launch his channel in the first place, and siding with the tr00ns that cancelled him over saying mean things about Israel (things that said tr00ns say now lmao)

>>513780809
Here's what Australian housing used to be during the White Australia policy, $8,000 houses with govt-backed low-interest loans in all-White neighborhoods with decent amount of land to go with it.

>The 1950s and 1960s dream

>At the end of the 1950s, the median house price was around $7,000–$8,000 at a time when average earnings were around $2,000 per year. At the interest rates of the time (of around 5 per cent), such an income would support a loan of more than $9,000.
>A significant contribution to the expansion of home ownership came from houses built under the Commonwealth State Housing Agreement of the time – in other words, from social investment. These houses were on-sold on the basis of a 5 pound ($10) deposit and funded through mortgage finance provided by a highly regulated mortgage finance industry or by direct government lending.

Research Report No. 10
Australian Housing and Urban Research Institute
>https://www.ahuri.edu.au/sites/default/files/migration/documents/NRV3_Research_Paper_10.pdf

Compare to today, you're paying $1,000,000+ for a cuckshack in a neighborhood filled with jews, niggers, lebos, pajeets and chinks.

It's almost unfathomable how different it would be if jews didn't exist and hadn't destroyed both the White Australia Policy AND the strict govt-regulated housing and house-loan markets
They just had to start making giant amounts of money from immigration by making housing an investment vehicle instead of just basically a consumer good

Holy shit this story just keeps pissing off more and more people. Billy is our boy but its fun to watch you idiots get so attached you get mad when Billy doesn't get his huge pay out from karl.

>>513780960
Right, yeah maybe I just don't get it like this >>513780964 non anglo pointed out that you anglos have been in bed with jews with so long that in some ways you've become like them.
Getting sued is not really something that anyone worries about here for example, thats why it sounds so strange to me
And like said because lawsuits cost money you definitely could fuck someone over with a civil lawsuit if you have money and the opponent doesn't, but people just really don't do that
I don't know anyone that has ever been involved in a lawsuit

>>513781045
Are you White? Why the memeflag?

The entire fucking situation would have just blown over if jobst wasn't a narcissistic retard. Instead he's basically ruined financially for the next 7+ years, his sponsors mostly bailed, he fucked up his wife's finances, and all it cost billy was a 6 months of his passive income. Jobst got fucking demolished and served every last bit of it

>>513781167
I hate lawyers. They were the only winners in this situation

>>513781243
That's not an answer.

>>513781225
I don't think sticking to your guns and not ceding any land when you are in the right 'narcissistic'
If anything its commendable to go against a kike lawfarer instead of cucking out and settling, but yeah it did bite him in the ass

But there is severe smell of brown over this that theres the browns who cheer on Billy for fucking over a White person, and on the other hand the fencesitter sheeple that now like Billy because he won and is gloating and meming on X, not wanting to side with the losing side even if the losing side is right

>/pol/ worshiping Billy "Pedophile" Mitchell
I'm shocked!

>@3:04
https://youtu.be/lXLQqcHcJDQ?t=184
Why is Billy's friend in prison?

Twin Galaxies and the classic arcade hobby was full of pedophiles.
Billy Mitchell is friends with those pedophiles.
Billy Mitchell and other young boys had sex with Walter Day in his arcade.

>>513781391
Billy is a nigger scum who clearly was cheating, but jobst actively defamed him, failed to provide any evidence, refused to apologised, and then scammed his audience out of a obscene amount of money to try and save himself from the consequences of his actions.

I dont cheer for billy, I cheer for a fucking degenerate getting their comeuppance

>>513773199
Karl sounds like a zoomer calling everyone he hates some kind of pedo/groomer/r--pist

>>513781497
>jobst actively defamed him
So are you a 100% Anglo? and not a jew?
maybe it really is true that you anglos have become like jews due to being so long in bed with them
This is probably the irreconcilable difference in thinking here like you're act like
>muh defamation
is like some huge crime. line of thinking around here goes that you're an absolute bitch if you sue someone for "defamation" and it shouldnt even be a crime
And something like an insinuation shouldnt even be enough especially the effect of billy's lawfare against apollo how much of a part did it play in pushing him over to suicide is unknowable

>>513781865
I denounce the Talmud and my dick isn't mutilated. I also denounce the jeetflood, the gooks, the niggers and all of the other subhuman degeneracy that exists on this planet. The most peaceful places on earth are consistently white, and free of the Jewish infestation. The less white, and the more Jewish, the more violent a country.

It wasn't a huge crime that's why it was a civil matter. Jobst got demolished because he got caught fucking lying like a kike and then he lost everything

>>513773405
With a good Chat GPT, it can write a lawyerly letter for you. I know you were bullshitting about the price. Shame on you. Also, when a government bureau doesn't want to give up video, get a FOIA request letter from Chat GPT.

>>513772080
>Apollo makes video on Billy's cheating
>Billy sues and takes ownership of Apollo's video
>Apollo murders himself soon after
It obviously had something to do with his suicide even if he had mental problems.

>>513770946
post more of this oddly shaped bitch

>>513770055 (OP)
Defamation is such a bullshit law
>claim Comet Ping Pong is operated by pedophiles
>lose $500k for defaming Comet Ping Pong

>>513774255
The cops (who were Muslims) were arresting the parents of the girls for "racism". You are a shitskin, Paki who doesn't belong in lands White people founded. Go away.

>>513782097
Okay so you seem like a reasonable person, who aren't just dunking on Karl because he lost, or because you hate free speech, or because he's White and you're brown.

I genuinely don't see though where did he supposedly lie from what I've now researched on it he never lied and in my opinion did not even mislead anyone, it was the gayming press that did

>>513782108
EXACTLY, how are you the first fucking person ITT so see this. There absolutely can be and probably is a connection between those, and claiming so shouldn't be fucking illegal because its something that cannot be proven so some court saying he must "produce evidence" for something THAT CAN NOT BE PROVEN is fucking retarded

>>513782464
Exactly my point. Such laws are clearly designed to protect kikes that make sure they don't leave any smoking gun evidence. And when you don't have that you aren't then allowed to talk about them at all make circumstantial connections etc.

Like if you claimed that pic rel jew tranny is a pedophile and so are the people in that room pedos or at very least pedo-enablers, now some Aussie court says you must produce some tape of them in the act or you are out $500K for defamation

>>513782488 (checked)
It's mind-boggling that we have entered into an era where its possible that a shitskinned muslim invader arrests a White man in his own fucking home
Like how are the NPCs so fucking brainwashed that they dont rise the fuck up, like I'm ready for an armed revolution right this fucking minute

>>513775956
I'm very afraid of that in Poland. German hedge funds are already buying a lot of new buildings for renting.
This shouldn't be allowed

>>513778768
>>513778982
Don't know much about the case but it's cool that there is one person being able to offer another perspective

>>513770397
I used to work for lawyers and the amount of money they suck up is fucking heinous. Easily $300+ an hour just for their time and a clerk/paralegal is about $150+. You can pay tons but if you don't shell out enough for "quality" you just get fucking fleeced. Some guy did a shit job on my parents' kitchen, lying the whole way and everything, but just because my parents only got a paralegal they couldn't get any leeway from that fucking tool.

The legal system is for rich fags to throw their money around, largely closed off to neo-peasants.

>>513770785
> when you can't buy rickey's hot sauce in fingolia

>>513784307
pledge allegiance to the American Flag or die, finncuck

>>513784010
Obviously not foreigners of any kind should be able to own any piece of land or a company in your country. This is the core that forms the national socialist economic policy, there is trade with other countries but no rents or profits cross borders because thats fucking insane that it happens.
But obviously the international jew gets all its unearned wealth and power this way.
And that is the real reason why Germany had to be destroyed, its not because the kike bankers gave a fuck about Poland or even the kikes in the summer camps waiting for deportation, it was that they were TERRIFIED of national socialism.

You can already guess who the real owners of the (((German hedge funds))) really are. One hint I can give you the ownership of lot things German were not left in German hands after the (((Allied))) victory

>>513784219
Also the amount the taxpayer spends on lawyer fees cannot be overstated. Lawyers for a hospital led a family friend around in circles for TEN YEARS because they fucked her up during an operation and refused to admit to it. Imagine all of the money wasted on lawyers talking in circles for ten years at over $300 an hour.

>>513783149
The judgement is publicly available and is published by the courts if you care to read it.

Tldr the courts upheld that jobst made false claims that Mitchell caused the death of ApolloLegend and claimed Mitchell was happy about the suicide, jobst mocked Billy's reasonable legal requests for to correct the record. Jobst truth defense failed, when that failed he tried to claim Mitchell's reputation was so bad that no matter what jobst said his reputation couldn't be harmed further, something mitchell successfully proved was not true.

I was team jobst the whole time too, fuck billy Mitchell, but when it came out what jobst was actually sued for it became immediately clear the guy was a habitual liar and it finally caught up to him. Successfully suing somebody for defamation is incredibly hard, jobst was just that big of a fucking retard

>>513770055 (OP)
I only know about this guy because ine of our science teachers in jr high was famous for beating him in donkey kong one time, steve weibe was the teacher i think.

Pic unrelated, lol vagax

>>513784355
kek pic rel is what your flag represents today, a kalergimutt country of race-mixed abominations thats only purpose is to be jewish golems
USA used to be great, but it stopped being great a long time ago, jews destroyed it

>>513784438
link?

>>513780220
You should have made the sun a little pack man
I'll also be using the promo cod karllost to get 15% off some Ricky's hot sauce

>>513784543
Dios mio..

>>513783343
Then I'm guessing if you have the tapes, they ask you why, and arrest you for possession of child pornography.

>>513775165
/pol/ is spiritually Jewish.

>>513784574
https://archive.sclqld.org.au/qjudgment/2025/Summary_Mitchell_v_Jobst_2025_QDC_41.pdf

>>513784438
>Tldr the courts upheld that jobst made false claims that Mitchell caused the death of ApolloLegend and claimed Mitchell was happy about the suicide
Still just seems that the kikes twisted that shit around because "claimed that he is responsible"
is literally this quote
>He also sued YouTuber Apollo Legend for $1 million. I haven't spoken about this publicly but this lawsuit ultimately ended with Apollo giving in and settling with Mitchell. He was forced to remove all of his videos about Mitchell's cheating, and payed him a large sum of money. This left him deeply in debt, which required him to find extra work. But with his health issues, this was all too much of a burden and he ultimately took his own life.
And if that is enough to get sued for $500K in Australia thats absolutely fucking cucked
Considering that in my opinion he is absolutely right to insinuate that there could be a connection and obviously anyone listening can make up their own minds about it, as it is UNKNOWNABLE and UNPROVABLE either way, speculating on someone elses feeling is exactly that, speculation, and EVERYONE understands that

>>513784722
Thanks

>>513784438
He let his ego and greed get to him. He could've just posted a 1 minute video on Youtube saying how he posted incorrect information and Billy Mitchell didn't cause Apollo Legend to commit suicide and apologizing about that particular accusation and then the lawsuit would've had absolutely no legal grounds, but he had to milk the hate against Billy.
Hell if he corrected that information at the time he could've continued to shit on BM for the cheating, since that wouldn't have held in court (because he DID cheat).

>>513770055 (OP)
>ha ha I very publically sold all my assets to my wife when I was ordered to pay billy
>surely this will just happen with no challenge and no judge will rule against me for this
do australoids really?

Australia is a pussy nanny state and that is the only reason Billy "won" but that same pussy liberal nanny state is the reason why Karl realistically has to pay Billy very little
Billy spent half a million and maybe got back 100k, winning ain't free.

>>513771525
Forty years ago anon

>>513784837
Exactly. All jobst had to do was say "I don't have proof, this is just my take etc" and the whole case was dead in the water

Instead he went full narcissism mode, life to his audience and mocked the courts. Never a good plan in any country.

>>513784722
>wrongly asserting that Apollo Legend had had to pay Mr Mitchell a large sum of money
If he had just said that he had to pay a large sum of money because of the case, or that he had to pay lawyers large sum of money, then it would be completely truthful
Again I don't look at this as any malice but simply being careless
The main point still is that Apollo was forced to settle and pay money which led him to bad financial straits
It really is a moot point that he didnt have to pay Mitchell directly the point considering his suicide the more important part is his financial situation rather than who exactly the money went to
Sure Karl made a mistake here but a $500K mistake when the essence is still valid, thats just retarded

>>513770055 (OP)
I swear his wig is in a different position in ever picture I see of him.

>>513784837
This situation was really a perfect storm of ego
Billy could have actually not lost money on this if he took the 300k Karl offered as settlement but now he is in the red way more then that with no hope of further recovery

>>513785025
See: >>513785020

Jobst was wrong and mocked the legal process Mitchell used to compel him to set the record straight. As I said from the start, this entire thing was only possible because jobst was a narcissistic retard. All he had to do was correct the false statements he made and he could have kept 90% of the content out there shitting on Mitchell.

>>513783210
Australia doesn’t have free speech protections and also have fairly draconian slander laws

That being said it really seems like Karl and Billy deserve each other

>>513785127
This too. The only winners here were the longbeak lawyers egging them both on to fuck themselves financially over some mean words on the internet

>>513785264
> Australia consistently scores higher than amerimutts on personal freedoms in publicly available peer reviewed research
Oof. Get zogged on

>>513770055 (OP)
Karl did it to himself. He just kept going and going and going with this delightful glee in all of his videos. I'm sure Billy is a scumbag but Karl was just relentless like some obsessed fangirl

>>513770473
1 step forward 2 steps back is like the entire foundation of the post- "and then one day, for no reason at all, christians handed jews control of your nation's money supply" economy.
there should be a jew or two somewhere nearby rubbing their hands in satisfaction, and in the distance, a based noticer who couldnt fulfill his purpose in life because jews made such things financially unsustainable whose going to sacrifice that jew in an inventive way worthy of his pagan gods favour, and then live in the jew's mansion off the infinite supply of gibs stipened onto the cards in his wallet and whose new life will afford him an abundance of free time that has resulted in a cult of personality online dedicated to everything yahweh hates, posting søyjak yahwehs and yeshuas saying "whats moshie gon' do, write a screenplay?". but he soon gets bored and decides one jew isnt enough, the pagan gods are restless and demand more sacrifices, so he hops from jewish mansion to jewish mansion, like a T-cell attacking its foreign invaders as one would do in the body, but for his land and people

>>513785334
Do you think anyone believes that except you after COVID

>>513770397
>Indian lawyer

>>513785264
It's all Anglo countries, for some reason civil court is absolutely cucked over there. Don't act like America doesn't have ridiculous lawsuits like that nigger who sued Tesla for like 10M dollars because someone allegedly said nigger at the workplace, and WON.
If BM tried that defamation case here he would've lost, but in the extremely unlikely event that he won he would've gotten like $5k tops, because you have to clearly and directly prove that the defamation caused you to lose that exact amount of money. The judge in the BM case absolutely winged his numbers, and he said he would've awarded even higher damages had BM asked LOL.

>>513770055 (OP)
Dont know who this is but looking at pic his declaring bankruptcy seems reasonable

That Asian lawyer who absolutely chimped out about Karl going bankrupt is probably the most embarrassing part of this
The guy spazzed out and wrote a letter to Australian bankruptcy court alleging all this fraud and thought he had him dead to rights until they informed him they already looked at all that and it was all legal
Karl kinda won in that regard, he smartly kept his money in his company. There is no doubt Bill would have done the same if he lost. Billy doesn't even own his own house, it's his wife's name on it and he was trying to give Karl shit for doing the same.

>>513785549
Are you one of those retards who gets their information from fox news? Come to tell me about the concentration camps that supposedly existed lel

>>513774444
Checked

>>513784837
My take on this is not greed but rather standing your ground
Like putting myself in his position it would absolutely grind my gears to give any ground to some lawfaring kike and issue some groveling apology to him
I can actually admire that even though he end up fucking himself over
But atleast he had conviction to not give an inch to a scammer, and did not cuck out

>>513784889
yeah maybe that shit could some bite him in the ass
like sure you are allowed to sell all your assets to your wife
but if you did it explicitly to not pay that might not be legal, idk

>>513786149
You don't have to apologize to him, you just have to say that the information you said about him being the direct cause of Apollo Legend's suicide was incorrect. As I said he could've continued to shit on him for the cheating.
This is not a hill worth dying for, he was stupid and I bet you he was regretting it the whole way, I've been through legal processes myself and I know how horrible and stressful it is, I couldn't sleep or focus on work properly for months.

>>513784904
I agree that the other anglosphere countries are fucking cucked on speech issues and USA is probably the most based of any countries in that regard
But also its funny that you call other countries "nanny states" when you've literally the highest social security spends of any country
of course its due to sheer amount of nonwhites but also per nonwhite your SSI checks and EBT cards plus section 8 housing checks all of that social security is more than anyone gets in any other country except maybe switzerland and germany in some cases

>>513785148
>Jobst was wrong and mocked the legal process Mitchell used
mocking the kiked legal system is a based thing to do
you really start to sound like an anglokike the courts are fucking kiked and they are not on the White mans side in most of things in fact the courts are our enemy for the most part as we've already seen transpire in UK for example
Nonwhite nonces walk free or with slap on the wrist while you get hard time for thought crimes like if anything EVERYONE should be mocking the courts

>>513784363
>not foreigners of any kind should be able to own any piece of land or a company in your country.
it's less about foreigners and more about corporations, who buy 1000 houses at once and then rent them to other corporations, who hire jeets
I could care less if you bought one house in Poland as your summer house/renting for the rest of the year. But if you wanted to buy 2, it would be very concerning.

>>513785148
And in fact he did correct the statement but that was in some dark souls video and that wasn't sufficient to billy's liking billy wanted Karl to make a groveling video specifically for him which the Karl didnt agree to cuck to

>>513785334
Those "personal freedom index" are compiled from a list of things we were talking about specifcally freedom of speech here, in my opinion the single most important freedom of all.

>>513787060
And freedom means different things for different people.
For example I would consider national socialism freedom as in 'free from having to see any niggers or jews and free from being exploited by any international jews or other such parasites' meanwhile someone else like a jew would consider capitalism freedom as in freedom to import immigrants charge them rents and get the rent check from the taxpayers, freedom to buy up companies from other peoples countries and steal their profits
And in my version of freedom it'd be the opposite, the freedom of not being affected by those things

>>513785285
That's the worst part of it all. Jews won anyway no matter the verdict

>>513785542
I'd watch this movie

>>513786535
Nanny state doesn't mean gibs
It means banning stuff that is dangerous for your safety or for the children
Sure the US is fucked but we ain't taking nerf guns or gell blasters off the shelf, that to me is a nanny state

But the moderation

>>513770055 (OP)
whole thing couldn't be more american
what a weird fucking country

>>513787503
no, you're just banning lawn darts and kinder surprise eggs

>>513785680
Yeah thats probably one of the reasons why in non-anglosphere countries civil suits and lawyering is much less common because non-damage awards aren't a thing. You'd need to be able to show exact monetary damage and numbers arent pulled out of their asses.
Of course there is a downside to this too, like actual violent criminals have to pay very low sums, like if you crack someones jaw the award for "pain & suffering" is maybe 500 euro thats nothing.
Even in cases where there is permanent damage its just few thousand euro at most so its a double edged sword, its cucked in another way that nobody ever really gets any compensation when they actually get victimized by crime

>>513786431
He did say that in the dark souls video supposedly but i cant find it right now
Just that Billy boy didn't think it was enough he wanted Karl to apologize and grovel

>>513786431
>I've been through legal processes myself and I know how horrible and stressful it is, I couldn't sleep or focus on work properly for months.
Yet you say that the legal warfare exacted on Apollo couldn't have been cause of decline of his mental health which lead to suicide?
This is also my central problem here that Karl isn't wrong in insinuating that the legal warfare contributed to his suicide he didnt even say it out loud just insinuated so
And a simple instantiation is worth $500K thats fucking RETARDED

>>513786828
that is what i meant foreigners buying land and property with intention to use it for profit, not some elderly buying a single vacation home
and obviously that is done through corporations

>>513787997
For example, a israeli jew called Chaim Zabludowicz owns 40% of all land in downtown Las Vegas.
This means that every person living on that land, improving that land, using it for business, etc. basically half the people doing anything in Las Vegas are paying billions in rent to a jew that does absolutely no labor.
This makes no sense, and is absolute insanity, why the FUCK should someone from a foreign hostile tribe own your tribal lands just to rent them back to your tribe?! Total and utter insanity. Foreigners should not be able to own White lands.

Am I supposed to know who or what any of this shit is?

>>513787503
yeah like >>513787636 said you're doing that stuff too
if anything at least here in north europ that "ban everything" culture came from you
we used to laugh things like having to have a "dont wave your pets" in a microwave oven instruction manual because someone had sued a microwave company after his cat exploded trying to dry it in the microwave

or all those road signs like "bridge is long, check that you have enough gas before proceeding"
from our perspective you are very hand holdy in many things
and gibs are absolutely part of nanny state
like just put a nigger in a house owned by a jew and give the jew the rent check
then put EBT card on his hand so he can eat himself on White mans dime
even give him free schooling and healthcare just so he could become a drug dealer gangbanger

if that isnt nannying then i dont know what is, and yes because of jews the entire western world is doing that shit

>>513787568
except it happened in australia
billy is american sure but the court case was in jobst home country of australia
and in fact in this case i dont think that billy would have won if the case was tried in USA instead
because unlike the cucked australia/UK/canada, USA is actually better in the free speech things and winning a defamation suit isnt this easy there
you dont or at least shouldnt get fucked over by some mean words over theere

>>513787915
I'm sure it contributed, but BM and AL reached a non-monetary settlement a while before AL committed suicide. My point is that if you live in a cucked country it's not worth it because you know you're gonna end up - surprise - cucked. If you want to fight the system you do it in other ways, not by playing right into it.

>>513788450
I assume Karl is autistic and didn't really understand what he was getting himself into

>>513788450
>reached a non-monetary settlement a while before AL committed suicide
yeah the settlement was that Apollo needed to cuck and remove all the videos, and even though he didn't pay Billy anything he obviously did pay for the legal fees which would be massive
In fact reading some articles even in this Jobst case while the settlement was $500K some estimates say due to length of the case the legal fees could be much more than that up to $1M even
And who knows what the fees for Apollo was but at the very least they would be few dozen of $K and if you dont have that money it might as well be a million

>>513788695
Imagine being that Apollo guy and already battled with physical and mental issues all your life and now you have a running debt on some debt collector collecting interest on maybe hundreds of K of legal fees and you're unemployed and would need to look for a job just to start paying for your legal fees to not have all your assets confiscated to pay for them

>>513787330
you should come to america, theres as many jews here as in israel. theres no shortage of jewish mansions to pick from. theyre all concentrated too. we have public records that provide you their addresses and everything. you could make a life for yourself here going from jewish mansion to jewish mansion. the legal system is all based on the honor system, its utterly retarded which is why jews are able to navigate it so efficiently. but what happens when people who just stopped giving a fuck and know theyre living under a jewish occupation refuse to play by the rules from when it was a free white country before christcucks came along and then one day, for no reason at all, handed jews control of the money supply?
theres no body
theres no motive
theres no weapon
theres no witnesses
and i got a lease signed by the jew in question allowing me to live in his mansion
what can they do?
fucking nothing
all theyve got is my word he said he was going back to his holey land to genocide phillistines or whatever, whose gonna question that? whats more likely, that, or a guy put an icepick in his brainstem and fed him to the starving pitbulls he keeps kenneled in a false tile in the ceiling whose floor gives way if a zogbot hits a tripwire?

>>513788031
true
majority dont want it but it happens anyway. And the answer why, is small and mid businesses. They just want the slave labor from 3rd world countries and lobby the politicians. and that slave labor need to be accommodated somewhere, so it's another lobby for commercializing housing. Housing should be citizens right.

>>513788876
i like the way you think

>>513789204
don't forget that all the browns are the jews bulwark of National Socialist party being voted in and kicking the kikes out

It's not that jews only push multiculturalism, they DEPEND on it. They use it as a tool to bring in allies so a Nazi-Aryan policies like the 'White Australia' or 'National Origins' could never come back, and jews could forever keep their claws in White countries.

>The Census Bureau has just reported that about half of the American population will son be non-white or non-European. And they will all be American citizens. We have tipped beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in this Country. We [Jews] have been nourishing the American climate of opposition to bigory for about a half a century. That climate has not yet been perfected, but the heterogeneous nature of our population tends to make it irreversible—and makes our constitutional constraints against bigotry more practical than ever."
- Earl Raab, The Jewish Bulletin, 9th Feb 1993, p. 23