Thread 513776439

How are you supposed to quit weed and alcohol if being sober feels so bad?

you bring up a good point

life as a man is hard, but he should seek being respected, not being happy. seek greatness, dont seek happiness, and you will find yourself happy.

Jesus helps

>>513776566
Respect is worth nothing.
Majority of people are subhuman garbage.
You must be some underaged faggot.

>>513776439 (OP)
>How are you supposed to quit weed and alcohol if being sober feels so bad?

You have to tire yourself out with lots of exercise then it's better.

What is your problem not wanting to feel your feelings so you mask them with drugs and alcohol. Grow up s

>>513776673
It's just boring

>>513776439 (OP)
You have to do stuff and keep active.
If you were busy, you would have no time to smoke weed and get pissed.

I smoke weed every day I don't have anything better to do, but if I have something to do, I dont smoke weed, and I don't miss smoking weed on those days, because I'm not thinking about it, rather, the task at hand.

The devil makes work for idle hands.

>>513776627
Yes also this.
Think of yourself as a border collie, if he doesnt get his 20km run every day he feels depressed and unfulfilled.
Cardio and weights combined with good diet works greater than any pharmacy pill.

>>513776439 (OP)
well I still drink alcohol, although only red wine and in moderation, but I did quit weed and masturbation.
The key was just really striving for finding out how to make yourself feel good every day without those things.
Exercise, play an instrument, pray, fast, take nootropics.
Also a big thing is accept that you're not going to feel good all the time. Sometimes you feel bored or lonely or sad. That's normal and it's important to have these feelings sometimes. It's not normal to be in a stoned state 24/7. It actually harms you in the long run and stunts your spiritual development.

>>513776439 (OP)
I had a love affair with craft beer for the past ten years, but the worst of it happened during and after Covid lockdowns. I'm just lucky that I was never a liquor guy or a drugs guy, though I would do mushrooms again if given the chance because that's the safest drug and it also happens to be the best. This week I started doing intermittent fasting, something I did ten years ago but stopped due to the beer thing. It's like I've woken up from a bad dream this week. I can think clearly, I have motivation again. The thing is I had zero interest in drinking during the day or drinking while I was at work. What I really wanted to do was drink once I got home as a reward for myself for a hard day's work. If I ate dinner, I had zero interest in drinking. Now that I've restarted intermittent fasting again, specifically one meal a day, dinner is the only meal I get, so I want that more than drinking. Today's my first Saturday and I used to start drinking at noon to enjoy my days off. Now I think I'll drive around in my car instead. I bet you're not too far from the countryside. Probably an hour at most. See if you can afford to go look at nature while you're bored instead of drinking or getting high.

>>513776795
Porn is something I forgot to mention. I'm in my late 30's and I feel like porn has completely lost its shock value. It's boring to me now. Women aren't shit when you think about it.

>>513776623
this.
used to want a dream car, still do, can still purchase it, i wont, because i realized im flexing on nobody but niggers and all it takes is one retard old person not looking or one nigger who gets a little too envious and my prized possessions go kaput. no point even participating in this society

>>513777080
>used to want a dream car, still do, can still purchase it, i wont

right, you really don't need it. you are not your posessions.

Well of course if you're just sitting at home you're gonna wanna eat and do drugs because you're bored. So go outside and do something.

>>513777080
Its cool how we just cant have nice things huh

>>513776760
One has not quit alcohol until he finds joy in being sober

Besides staggering around like a retard and puking your brains out is overrated

I've been sober for like 5 days collectively in the past 4 months.

>>513777569

all time russian soberness record

>>513777631
I just don't understand how people manage to tolerate reality without drugs. Being sober sucks arse.

>>513777700
You'll get sick of it one day and you'll realize sobriety is the only answer. That's what happened to me.

>>513777700
Checked. I have been drinking a lot lately too. Idk what to do. Life is becoming increasingly worse. Everything is hopeless.

>>513776439 (OP)
That's a question I think is best unpacked in therapy, Anon. Please promise me you will go and stick to it.

Will you promise?

>>513777847
I hate therapists. They're ultra liberal douchebags who get paid extortionate amounts of money to tell you to have a positive attitude.

>>513777847
Therapy lmfao. In the big two five? Post tits at least dumb whore.

>>513777894
Just quit drinking! Be happy! Life is beautiful!
It's not but it's what normies keep telling you.
I've heard that semaglutide - the stuff which is in Ozempic - helps to easy not only food cravings but alcohol cravings as well.
Tomorrow is my second injection. Yet to feel anything of significant difference but people say it might take a few weeks to pick up the pace.

>>513776439 (OP)
sober is reality.
reality sucks because you've been chemically escaping it.
if you're bored, it's because you are boring.
wherever you are in the world you can figure out something to do (notice i didn't say "find something to do")
create something.
paintings, sculpture, short stories, wood working, topiary, learn a new language, etc...
there are so many interesting ways to spend your time.
quit being a crutch-hugging faggot.

>>513778107
> you can figure out something to do (notice i didn't say "find something to do")
Whats the difference?

HHC oil and maybe get diagnosed for ADHD and get on medication.

>>513776439 (OP)
The last thing I'll say is I'm 38 and my life just started getting good. It'll probably be even better when I'm 40. It doesn't all have to happen when you're 25.

>>513776566
That's not a great man. That's an immoral poser grifter. Totally fake. Only poor people idolise him.

>>513777894
Have you been to one? What type of stuff did they say for you to say that?

>>513776439 (OP)
That's Buddhism, vowing a life of sobriety and learning to shed the false ego that's being tormented and discovering your true, blissful self. Look into shikantaza meditation and avoid reading anything written by a Jew which is a lot of the "Western" Buddhist literature.

>>513778192
finding something to do implies that there is already something around you that someone has set up for you.
like going to the movies or eating at a restaurant or going to a wall climbing gym.
figuring out somthing to do presupposes nothing.
you want to climb a rock wall? build one.
you want to go to the movies? go make some popcorn, invite some friends over, and watch one.
there isn't a pre-fab "grow your own pixel art out of flowers" kit.
no one can hand you the ability to do 10 pushups if you haven't done 1 in years.
figure out what you want to make better in your life, figure out a plan HOW you can make that better, then do the plan.

>>513776439 (OP)
It just feels bad at first. Eventually you'll wonder why you ever did it.

>>513776566
Andrew Tate never had to deal with stuff like this because he is a nepo-baby. How can he tell me on how to fix your life if he never had to?

>>513776439 (OP)

Try nicotine and coffee.

>>513778298
Yes I went to public therapists at the VA and it all just boiled down to "have a positive attitude" and "women like confidence." So eventually I stopped going. You literally can't talk about anything that you're actually feeling because they're stone cold libtards. I hate both political sides really, but libtards are a unique kind of annoying.

>>513777700
I have never been drunk. Life sucks and I cope with kpop and porn.

>>513778407
How was Andrew Tate a nepo-baby?

>>513778518
They arnt meant to have much of an opinion on anything. Maybe its different in the US but mine just let me vent. I actually asked if they had advice and they didnt have any, like they wernt meant to give any. I think yours sound unprofessional.

>>513778107
Tried: cycling, jogging, swimming, gardening, learning Korean, learning German, learning Icelandic, playing videogames, cooking, investing time into my career, getting into kpop, hiking. None of this works. It just doesn't stick. I don't get any kind of gratification out of anything other than drinking booze.

>>513778728
>I don't get any kind of gratification out of anything other than drinking booze.
have you tried making your own booze?
figure out what the qualities are that you enjoy about your booze and see if you can make a better booze than what you can buy.

>>513776439 (OP)
What are you, some kind of sad sack? Being drunk/high sucks, can't think clearly like that

>>513778711
Yeah they're supposed to let you figure it out yourself. See, Sigmund Freud and Carl Jung came from a time when no one EVER talked about their feelings. Nowadays, people are very open about talking about their feelings, so therapists aren't really needed anymore. I'm glad terms like depression and trauma are common knowledge now, but I think therapists have served their purpose.

>>513778801
>have you tried making your own booze?
No, never really felt any urge to.

>figure out what the qualities are that you enjoy about your booze
I quite enjoy how it makes me numb to reality lol.
I don't care about the taste AT ALL. Usually I just mix 96% pure alcohol with sparkling water or beer so it would kick in faster.
To me sommeliers are the equivalent of a fart smelling club. It's booze. None of it tastes good.

>>513777003
>I'm in my late 30's and I feel like porn has completely lost its shock value.
It's called lowered testosterone.

>>513776439 (OP)
Get hooked on caffeine and cocaine

>>513779029
>Usually I just mix 96% pure alcohol with sparkling water or beer

Russians go hard. Erm dont do that itll kill you.

>>513778728
Just quit.

>>513779119
>itll kill you
Why would I care exactly? I'm not a scientist on the verge of a breakthrough discovery, I'm not a composer who's passionate about finishing his symphony, I'm not a family man who's got people to care for. I'll never do anything even remotely significant so why would I care whether I get to live a bit longer or I don't.

>>513779029
Most people only drink once every few months if that. Most people who drink wines only do so on very special occasions. This leaves gap where they want to treat themselves to something thats perfect.

I haven't drank any alcohol in almost 10 years. If i had a bottle of wine and some good cheese in my hands now I would coom I would be so happy.

Some people drink to get drunk and others drink as an experience in gastronomy. As far as drinking goes i miss drinking for the food more than drinking for the drunk. That being said I would kill for any of my preferred liquors and a nice bowl of hash with a cigarette.

>>513779284
Well that's a good point I guess. Have you considered enlisting?

>>513776760

Youre dumb or your dopamine is fried. Life is as boring or interesting as you make it.

>>513779284
I cant fix people's lives. But you dont know what the future holds.

>>513779284
I live out of spite.

>>513779476
>But you dont know what the future holds.
Whatever it is it will end up with me dying alone with nobody who loves me.

>>513776439 (OP)
first you have to build connections with friends and family
if they already exist you have to build ontop of those connections
a strong social safety net is the only thing that reliably can get rid of addiction

>>513778585
His dad was a chest-master

>>513776439 (OP)
Find something worth living for. Simple as

>>513777080
>all it takes is one retard old person not looking or one nigger who gets a little too envious and my prized possessions go kaput.


This is a real thing. In my hometown your friends would slash your tires cause they didn't like you having nice things and them not, or sugar your gas tank.

>>513777080
If you want your car anon who cares go and get it. Dont let niggers and boomers stop you from doing something you enjoy. Plus if something does happen just make an insurance claim and jews will have to pay for the damage.

>>513776439 (OP)
You just decide to do it, and you do it, and you find things to fill that time.

>>513776439 (OP)
With sport and sex.

>>513776566
yeah man I want to be like that tryhard no chin faggot. fuck outta here

>>513776439 (OP)
Switch weed for steroids

>>513776439 (OP)
You just dont start lol.

>>513779750
His father was an International Master (IM). They don't make any money apart from coaching maybe.
The only people who make big money in chess are the GMs who stay in the top 10 consistently for a long time. They are leagues ahead of IMs in skill. Like on a different planet of skill. A top international master with an elo rating of 2500 which just below low tier GM would be outside the top 1000 in the world. A bottom tier IM would be ranked 5000 in the world.
Basically Andrew tates dad is trash at chess compared to Magnus. Like an ok amateur tennis player or golfer who enters tournaments and wishes they were pro but will never make it in the big leagues.

im high and starting to get dronk(haven't drank in months)
still a sorry state, i'd rather be sober, but i am yet to break free.

Being sober feels better in the long run.

>>513776566
thats literally the son of a cia asset, and if youre wondering why that discredits anything he says, youre probably a fed too

>>513776439 (OP)
I usually just don’t drink because my wife won’t let me at home, but I still drink a couple beers a night on business trips which are weekly for me. Usually when I’m home I’m too busy taking care of my property to feel much besides physical discomfort, which has become the norm for me at this stage and I have become extremely tolerant of.

>>513776439 (OP)
You're not ready to quit if you believe that

>>513776439 (OP)
I am sober 14 months
sobering up sucks because you realize life has nothing to offer if you're not a gf having normie
lately I crave drinking, I can control it at the moment but the time will come where I can't control it anymore anf that's the day I probably die

>>513783986
Drinking yourself to death in just one day is basically impossible anon. You're going to pass out and involuntarily vomit out the alcohol you just drank.
It's a work which takes time.

>>513777355
yeah i know right hahaha can't have shit these days. all of the gas stations near me lock the alcohol up at 9pm now because niggers keep stealing beer. in fact almost nothing here stays open past 10 because nigger crime keeps getting worse. I just don't drink anymore these days.

>>513776439 (OP)
Haha, ya....
I am convinced we live in purgatory always making just enough to survive but always feel behind.

>>513783986
>>513784670
Alcohol is a part of half of all suicides. A return binge might result in suicide even if unplanned.

I saw the prices the jews were siphoning out of my pockets and at least curbed the alcohol.
Cannabis I don't need every day so I'm not free but least financially better off

>>513776439 (OP)
I quit weed to feel less groggy and dullwitted, turns out it didn't male any difference and I had a sinus infection. I felt ripped off.

>>513776439 (OP)
people quit things?

>>513776566
He’s flexing so hard in that picture he actually shit himself. Went through 4 diapers that day.

>>513776439 (OP)
I like feeling bad

>>513784903
Very very few people do. Overthinking is just a predetermined reaction to external stimuli. So unless your daily life is severely changed the drinking problem won't go away.

>>513776439 (OP)
it feels bad because of the weed and alcohol.

I smoked almost daily for like 15 years and I’m completely sober now. I’m never going back. In the end it’s simply not worth it

>>513784670
Russians are the experts on the subject of alcohol

>>513785216
Every culture on the face of this planet drinks alcohol. Even the muslims. They have the death penalty for those which drink alcohol yet they still do it.

>>513776439 (OP)
Butt sex

>>513776439 (OP)
>weed
Nigger.

>>513779075
I've noticed that there don't seem to be any porno movies that are made for guys like me. All the porn I've come across was targeted at beer-swilling sports bar dwelling alpha-males. Men who like their women stupid and submissive

Men who can only get it up for monosyllabic cock-hungry nymphos with gargantuan breasts and a three-word vocabulary. Adult films are populated with these collagen-injected liposuctioned women. Many of whom have resorted to surgery and self-mutilation in an attempt to look the way they have been told to look.

These aren't real women. They're objects. And these movies aren't erotic. They're pathetic. These vacuum-headed fuck bunnies don't turn me on. They disgust me.

And it's not that I'm against pornography. I mean, I'm a guy. And guys need porn. Fact. "Like a preacher needs pain, like a needle needs a vein,"

Guys need porn.

But I don't wanna watch this misogynist he-man woman-hater porn. I want porno movies that are made with guys like me in mind: Guys who know that the sexiest thing in the world is a woman who is smarter than you are. You can have the whole cheerleading squad, I want the girl in the tweed skirt and the horn-rimmed glasses: Betty Finnebowski, the valedictorian.

Oh yes.

First I want to copy her Trig homework, and then I want to make mad, passionate love to her for hours and hours until she reluctantly asks if we can stop because she doesn't want to miss Battlestar Galactica. Summa cum laude, baby! That is what I call erotic. But do you ever see that kind of a woman in a contemporary adult film?

No.

I'm talking about the girls that used to fuck up the grading curve. The girls in the Latin Club and the National Honor Society. Chicks with weird clothes, braces, four eyes, and 4.0 GPAs. Brainy articulate bookworms, with MENSA cards in their purses and chips on their shoulders. My porn starlets will come in all shapes and sizes. My porn starlets will be too busy working on their PhD to go to the gym.

>>513776439 (OP)
Just quit weed first. Weed lowers ambition.
Then when you hit a good stride on booze, just taper off if you need to.
The worst thing to do is go to ER or to a program. Those are setup for the people who need others approval.
80% of the population is mentally ill because the system they love is sick.

>>513781248
BASED OLYMPIA ENJOYER

>>513776566
Pic is rich guy who is slave to materialism and pussy so it doesn’t count as someone avoiding pleasure

>>513776439 (OP)
Weed makes you feel worse. It makes you feel more aware of everything, so if your life is shit, you will be more depressed about it. Alcohol is fine. I get drunk at least 3-4 times a week. It's fun. Although I can feel my internal organs suffering recently. I hope I die in my sleep.

>>513787927
This. Quitting weed will help with everything else. Be prepared for a shit week's sleep but you can do it anon

replace them with cocaine and meth. everything in life is a distraction

>>513781248
Don’t post gay black porn here bro

>>513776439 (OP)
Just wait until you hit your thirties, Anon. The hangovers after a night of heavy drinking become unbearable. When it became a lot harder to bounce back after a night of boozing, I really cut back on my drinking. I haven’t given it up completely, but I understand my limits now.

>>513776439 (OP)
Kys Rodney McKek

>>513776439 (OP)
Jesus.

>>513784708
It's legitimately starting to feel like roaming the wastelands when you go out in the West now.

>>513776439 (OP)
Gabapentin for life. Killed all my cravings and I was a sick fucking junkie

>>513784815
>I quit weed to feel less groggy and dullwitted, turns out it didn't male any difference

Sounds like you're just a mong

>>513789001
It's not, it the pinnacle of human muscular development.

>>513790094
Gay veiny sweaty niggers with no clothes on

>>513777080
>buying a car to flex on people, not just because you want to enjoy the car
Shiggy diggy

>>513776566
I'd rather be happy than bald

>>513776439 (OP)
remind yourself that at least you're not a shitskin. If you are, then kys