Thread 513800890

How's the job market in your country?

>>513800890 (OP)
What's a job?

>>513800890 (OP)
lrn2prompt

>>513800890 (OP)
lmao i can remember nerd losers spamming 4chin of how great and well paid were cs jobs just a couple years ago

>field becomes trendy because a bunch of autistic nerds make a lot of money
>the said field is then flooded with normalfags with no intrinsic interest in the said field
>the job market becomes so diluted that even the aforementioned autistic dorks can't get a job anymore
>everything turns to shit and the bubble bursts
>the goycattle find some other field to shit up
>the autists resort to neeting
>rinse and repeat
happened with law too at some point

>>513800893
Still pays great for me. Keep crying, Mario.

>>513800893
It was very obvious bubble tbf
The vast majority of codemonkeys are genius enough to justify their high salaries.

Plus AI destroyed a lot of these jobs too

>>513800893
Computer science is more software jobs
Computer engineering is hardware jobs

>history major
>and this is our son's room, he's quite the history buff

>>513800896
Also interest rates
Companies are more careful with spending hundreds of billions on shit ideas(metaverse) when credit gets more expensive

>>513800896
Mind telling me what engineering roles AI eliminated. I've yet to see one actually removed because of AI. Unless AI means Another Indian.

>>513800890 (OP)
The job market for engineers is collapsing but so are the numbers of graduates and people starting engineering degrees, so it averages out.
CompSci on the other hand has seen a massive increase in graduates and students and I dont see where they are all supposed to get jobs.

>>513800895
>me me me
This is why you and other similar pawns will never form a coherent opposition towards those who actually benefit from the status quo in place

>>513800890 (OP)
>How's the job market in your country?
I am about to start looking for work after neeting for years.

No idea what i should try for

>>513800897
It doesn't matter. Even doctors cannot find an employment, any employment in this shithole country. Dentist graduate, computer scientist and biotech PhD compete against each other to land a relief support work/care home job

>>513800890 (OP)
Decent stealing has always been profitable.

>>513800895
I earn 1/4 of that as a code monkey wtf

>>513800906
In which metro area do you live?

>>513800899
It has nothing to do with interest rates. Basically outsourcing and AI dried the entire job market and nothing will ever change

>>513800895
Do you write linkedin blogposts

>>513800909
KEK

>>513800906
You are not American, what is there to be surprised by?

>>513800907
Berlin
Its my first job out of college albeit

>>513800901
>but so are the numbers of graduates
Lol, you sure about that?

>>513800902
I don't give a shit about anyone but my wife or dog.

>>513800906
It's kind of bonkers how well this shit pays. I'm also paying $3k in rent.

>>513800911
I try to forget how much they're paid to cope, this actually surprised me

>>513800909
>>513800910
I actually do need to write a LinkedIn post to help get my consulting business started. Thanks for the reminder.

>>513800912
Small company with out a union contract?

>>513800914
>I'm also paying $3k in rent.
Per month or per 2 weeks?

>>513800906
>>513800911
but i was told germans and lesser germany are so delighted that all their tax money is going towards queen ursula and the green new scam
are all euroids not complete robots or something

>>513800893
>>513800894
>>513800896
I have no idea why people are focusing on cs jobs
job market is crap for everything honestly

>>513800912
This is my 5th job. My first job paid $75k/year. So rightly 2/5 of this.

>>513800917
100.000 employees corporation with A11 or thereabouts. It's ~4.6k/month before taxes, ~3k after

>>513800906
>manage to landing a job in 2025
>and it's a fucking programming job at the age of AI
>still complains

>>513800918
Per month. God forbid ever two weeks. No, I'm prepared to pay $4.5k/month for a mortgage though.

>>513800916
Nobody reads them btw

>>513800919
Where did I implied that a high salary job automatically defines success?

>>513800903
I would say pick a field that isnt cs but also learn to program because sometimes companies will hire people with domain knowledge even if you arent good programmer
happens in my job a lot, these people can give answers to things which I cannot even if they get confused about basic shit in programming

>>513800925
Yeah they don't, but they like them and it before establish yourself as an industry expert.

It's all a fucking grift at the end of the day

>>513800913
Yes. New students in mechanical engineering have halfed since the 2010s.
Chemcial and Electrical engineering have also suffered a lot.

>>513800928
An it establishes yourself*

Fucking TTS

It's just matter of time until all of your jobs outsourced to India. And then, you'll share the same fate as me

>>513800902
Selfishness, psychopathy and greed are cultural traits of America

That and obesity, fentanyl addiction and diabetes

>>513800890 (OP)
I gave up trying to get a job and have settled for being a NEET until retirement.

4 years experience as webshit dev, been unemployed for 1 and a half years now

Everything would be better if women hadn't entered the labor market

>>513800927
Thinking about calling myself a prompt engineer and just shit out leap.com builds plus all the rest

>>513800932
Thirdie cope and jealousy. We actually have a Brazilian (lives in the US) on our team that we pay just as well. Maybe get out of the crab bucket

>>513800929
How can I get a job in Germoney? I'm an electronics engineering graduate and finding a job other than homecare in this shithole's practucally impossible

Discussing economics on /int/ is truly grim. Its honestly amazing how ignorant most are on the subject.

>>513800908
Yes but this correlates with interest rates

Much cheaper to hire a guy named Singh that lives in Kerala than Matthew that lives in San Francisco or something

>>513800936
FFS leap.NEW

>>214110203
thats just meme shit. Even if I sometimes use AI extensively when I code its only bwcause some of the shit I do doesnt interest me at all and its boring, like frontend stuff for example where I just beg AI to figure out why this pre-react / react frontend div is not centered

if all else fails, become a doctor

>>513800939
Line goes up and down

>>513800937
yeah but like brazil is literally the exact same just triple it

>>513800939
There are some zoomers here who haven't entered the workforce yet and just don't know the current state of things.

I'm an old man

>>513800935
No, everything would be better if billionaires were more giving than retaining

>>513800890 (OP)
Si whatever did happen to all the learn to code chuds making fun of journalists, artists and humanities students?

>>513800924
You're very poor
Wtf

>>513800942
>if all else fails, become a doctor
I am extremely lazy. If i can use leap.new, create the backend in seconds and push something that kinda works, i will.

I suck at programming but even i can troubleshoot ai slop code, using ai.

Have you tried leap? Its one of the best

>>513800890 (OP)
>90% of art students have secure employment at starbucks

>>513800940
Well, I don't think companies will stop outsourcing to India no matter what will interest rates become. Regardless of interest rates, hiring a jeet in India is always cheaper and I'm still surprised that European companies are not still practicing outsourcing all these engineering/tech jobs

>>513800890 (OP)
even though stem people laughed in my face about my demise completely unprovoked I'm still genuinely sorry for them having difficulties

There is no evidence that offshoring or AI has caused a reduction in labor in USA. A better explanation for a tough job market for recent grads is that there is a large mature older white collar labor force, but the share of works in white collar jobs hasn't actually decreased.

For tech specifically, the over-hiring in late pandemic, higher interest rates, and a change in the tax code are the main reasons that hiring is down.
>>513800896
>Plus AI destroyed a lot of these jobs too
This gets said a lot but there isn't actually any data that suggests this is actually happening.
>>513800931
We've been offshoring to India for decades and the percentage of our labor force in white collar jobs has steadily risen (besides the quick spike and decline in 2022). There's not a fixed number of jobs being distributed between the west and India.

>>513800948
I am. Please send donations.

>>513800950
I literally cannot find a job, any job including homecare and starbucks as a 2 STEM degree holder (BSc Electronics and MSc Embedded)

Fucking dogshit, I'm clinging to my current job for dear life

>>513800890 (OP)
We’re in a golden age with 300% employment

>>513800935
No. This would wreck the economy
Unironicaly only possible in socialist economies

>>513800938
Being fluent in German would be the most important part. Any engineering job that can be done in english is most likely already in India. Otherwise look at Siemens career portal, they are generally the biggest and best employer of electrical engineers.

>>513800953
>We've been offshoring to India for decades and the percentage of our labor force in white collar jobs has steadily risen
Man,all that statistics provided by government is a pure lie. Look at linkedin and job boards and then compare application numbers on same/similar kind of job with 2021/2022 era. Real unemployment in west is at least triple of what officials claim

>>513800959
Colonialism was a mistake. Jeets and silicon valley jews ruined everything

>>513800945
I'm an old man who hasn't entered the workforce

>>513800960
>the stats are fake because they don't conform to my narrative
2021/2022 was a hiring spike, it should not be seen as the baseline. You can even see it on the graph.

>>513800960
Peak midwit post

No jobs available in current job market. Employers/managers/supervisors know that and practice mobbing in the job place by pressuring you to not take a break. They're legally obligated to give us an unpaid break of 30 minutes for every 6 hours of work. But me and my colleagues are frequently forced to work for free in our unpaid break time as well

>>513800962
You didn't fall for it. Smart man.

>>513800960
for sure they are juking the stats somehow. we have terrible unemployment, especially among men.

>>513800963
Yeah bit then how can you explain seas of people,applying hundreds of jobs and not even getting interviews?

>>513800964
People literally apply 600 jobs and not even getting any interview. That's the truth. Things turned into dogshit especially after January 2023 due to AI

>>513800955
cant u sign up for neetbuck and they'll help u find work?

>>513800958
Now maybe, but the economy would be better than ever if it had never happened

Kek. Imagine studying CS? You can just pay for a 3 month boot camp. There's virtually no reason to learn anything beyond algorithm & data structure fundamentals, which should only take a month. Get a 4 year degree in whatever field you're interested in and have a boot camp in your back pocket. Software engineering should be a back-up for everyone, regardless of background. 99% of software engineering jobs can be performed by individuals just out of a boot camp

I don't think this involuntary parasitism neet epidimic affects women no one is talking about it

>>513800968
>Yeah bit then how can you explain seas of people,applying hundreds of jobs and not even getting interviews?
The existence of a large mature older white collar labor force, higher interest rates, over-hiring during pandemic, and for US tech specifically a change in the US tax code.

>>513800967
THIS! Also female supervisors practice excessive amount of mobbing on especially male coworkers like me. But you can't put that fact on "dAtA" for obvious reasons soo redditors will not believe us,until they experience it by themselves

I know recent grads who have gotten jobs as a copywriter in the past few months, which should be like the easiest job for AI to replace.

>>513800969
No, they just milk me for data through ghost job openings. That ghost job shit also became a thing after January 2023 btw

>>513800890 (OP)
>>513800893
>>513800896
Computer engineering is not CS or IT

>>513800897
This

>>513800968
Sir I understand this is hard for you understanding but the social media is not the reality sir

>>513800973
But this shitshow's global. I doubt UK, Canada and Australia also changed their tax code along with the US at the same time. Interest rates are also getting back to normal, but still no improvement on job market. Outsourcing and regular mass-layoffs on the other hand is skyhigh. AI and outsourcing fucked us so badly

>>513800978
Whatever you want to believe. I myself with 2 STEM degrees applied 500+ jobs. In return, I got 10 interviews. Every single job application receives 100s of applicants within a day. I'm telling you what I experience, the reality. It's your choice to believe to your own eyes or govenrment dataslop

It's soo fucking over for white collar jobs. None of my friends (more than 10) managed to find any jobs at all as STEM graduates. This country's finished and there's no reason for younger generations to study STEM, unless they want to torture themselves during and after uni

>>513800977
i learned vhdl and verilog in my computer science course, and my first job was at freescale
now i work for the government... ah ha ah

>>513800893
My paycheks keep coming in despite what the shieking chinks and jeets here are posting

This is 100% due to foreign labor importation, btw. All of the entry level jobs that previously went to new grads are now being filled by middle aged indian men with 3 fake degrees

>>513800902
>you disproved my demoralization spam, therefore you are the cause of the problem

blow me, achmed

You need to be religious to get hired by government sector and kinda liberal for private sector.
If you didn't got any job in those sectors, army is your last resort.

>>513800890 (OP)
>How's the job market in your country?
I've already adapted to this OP.
Now, I'm a "software development contractor" which means I have multiple part time jobs.

>>513800890 (OP)
>How's the job market
the what

>>513800895
I make just as much in a low income country, LMAO.

>>513801807
What about starting your own business?

>>513800900
The first jobs AI is going to eliminate are lawyers. Once I start seeing articles about law school graduates working at McDonalds I'll believe it. This current CS job slump is 100% H1B fraud

>>513800949
saaar this is very good sar. i trying now !

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