Thread 513806697

>reliably built
>made of steel
>can’t be shut down by EMP
>makes driving kino
Why haven’t you taken the pill yet anon? Modern cars are pure shit, and they’re computerized to the point where the government can literally shut down if not control your vehicle. It is the safest and most based option for driving.

Because everyone wants a ridiculous amount of money for them.

cars are shit. walking and public transportation is superior.

>>513806736
40k for this, or 40k for a computerized plastic shitbox? Either way you’re spending the money

This and trains are the only acceptable forms of transporation.

Their are older lexus/toyota v8s that will last for half a million miles or more if well maintained.

>>513806697 (OP)
Because in your country Obama's cash for clunkers destroyed "older" perfectly serviceable cars, and in the EUSSR they are making it more difficult to drive in some places because muh green energy meme. Also most of us were not born early enough to buy them.
Pictured : Toyota Hilux 1982, the world will never see its likes again.

>>513806697 (OP)
>Why haven’t you taken the pill yet anon?

Because I have a cheap and reliable 14 year old shitbox. People who constantly waste money on cars are niggers who will be in debt forever.

>>513806697 (OP)
That truck would still get wiped in an EMP blast. Want you want is an older generation diesel. They have mechanically timed fuel injectors and the only thing the battery does is power the starter and lights

>>513806697 (OP)
Old chevys are where it's at. Parts are so easy to find and they are so easy to work on

>>513807425
give examples

>>513806697 (OP)
the old square bodies are aesthetic as fuck

>>513807783
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q14rHLvMco

>>513806697 (OP)
Just say you don't live somewhere where it ever rains or snows. These things rust to shit in no time.

>>513807662
you have to go back to the 60's to an an emp proof vehicle

I took the World Rally Bluepill

>>513808069
get an*

>>513808006
shut up you flyover nobody
>t. caliwali chad

>>513806697 (OP)
Old things work

>>513808092
Goated

>>513808479
what the fuck is this awful attept at design and copy this is terrible
faggot redditor teir

>>513808479
What exactly is it about Toyota's? Do they do something different from everyone else or is it as simple as just using higher quality parts?

>>513807662
2nd generation Cummins, known as a Gen 2. Potentially the greatest truck ever produced. Picrel
>>513808069
You have to get the ignition system and electrical timing out of the vehicle to be emp proof. 60s cars still has ignition systems (but no electrical timing, since cars that old used carburator instead of fuel injectors). Older cars still used spark ignition. Diesels work with compression ignition, so no spark plugs, distributors, etc. Aka no electricity

>>513808712
Durable as fuck, cheap, and the older Tacoma especially is a fucking brick that just works no matter what. Also, they're everywhere, and they're obvious because of the brand name on the tailgate so it became a bit of a meme.

CO2
More than 95 grams = €10.000/year tax when median income is €20.000
More than 104 grams = The state removes your fingernails

>>513808735
Lol pic didn't load

>>513807054
I cannot wait to inherit my grandmother in laws 02 Lexus. It has just over 100k miles on it and it's been maintained religiously, driven short distances regularly, and kept in a garage.

>>513806697 (OP)
Because unless you personally are a mechanic and have the time and expertise to maintain something like this it'll be substantially more expensive than just buying some new car every 10-15 years

>>513809089
Based truck and opinion. You're correct. Cousin has one. Still runs perfectly.

>>513806736
It's a boomer cope thread for having their lifestyle reduced by inflation. They already own their old cars.

>>513808712
perfect blend of cheap and reliable, even as second hand, third hand car.

>>513809220
Old chevys have cheap parts, and they’re very easy to work on.

>>513808092
I had a 13.

How many EJs have you gone through? I went through 1, but sued SOA and they gave me 7500 for a new one.

>>513806697 (OP)
Im going to look at a 78 Coupe Deville. As long as the frame is solid and there's no filler in the body I'm buying it. Those old 425s can run even better with a little tweaking. I'll keep my 13 Tundra till it dies though. Fuck anything made after 2015.

>>513807054
i already whip an old lexus, although I'd prefer an even older model. I'm talking about the original ls400 or maybe a mid 90s es300.

>>513807098
2030 emissions /ice cancellations has been canceled from what I'm getting. "DRILL BABY DRILL" has a beautiful phrasing to it. Canceling ev credits too I doubt we'll have the means to like stop ice vehicles soon. And we should get more hybrid production I'm guessing. A few years ago I was under the impression we would have all ev on road by like 2040 from cash for clunkers and tax credits. But not anymore.

>>513809089
based
anon

>>513809647
>all ev on road by like 2040
was never going to happen. EVs aren't good enough to even be the majority

>start engine
>remove battery (only critical electric component to engine operation is alternator)
>change 4 hoses and run on cooking oil
>krkrkrkrkrkrkrkr

truly beyond comparison

>>513806697 (OP)
Salty roads kills every vehicle in 15 years or so. Otherwise I would have one.

>>513806697 (OP)
These things have survivors bias so bad, 90% of them died unceremoniously with shit engines and rusted out frames and bodies.the ones alive today are alive cause people really cared about them.

>>513809942
Mercedes W123
Good
This is one of the best cars made in human history
Absolutely unkillable

>>513809335
I bought it as a rolling chassis with no motor years ago from a SoCal milf. I put an EJ207 in that had done around 65k KM. Replaced water pump and timing belt/pulleys. I’ve put 20k miles since with no issues. The 2.0L EJs seems to be more reliable than the 2.5Ls

>>513810140
slow, refuses to die under any circumstance, sounds like its running on gravel.
no wonder niggers in the desert run 19th hand w123s with a over a million miles as taxis

>>513810010
If you have a frame and engine, you can order the rest of a Jeep CJ7 through the mail and have it dropped on your doorstep
Stainless steel body panels and build it in your garage
So long as you don't drive it off a cliff or get hit by anyone, it will last forever

>>513806697 (OP)
Anything older than 15 years is a rust pile. Everything newer than 2010 is locked to the dealerships.

>>513807662
The first 7.3l made by international Harvester for the Ford pickups

>>513810302
An old lady came driving down my road when I was coming home a few weeks ago
W123. Looked like a 1980 or so - round headlights. That meant a diesel.
All I saw was little hands and white hair. I almost turned around and followed her home so I could offer to buy it.
Absolutely fantastic car

>>513810411
muhammad, the only thing standing between you and w123/w124 salvation is your government.

pre-daimler/chrysler mercedes build quality mogs any modern vehicle.

>>513810505
Keep a lookout, never too make that offer anon.
They're an absolute dream to work on- especially if you've got a spot that can fabricate parts you can't find, and nothing ever breaks- and if it does, it's always a repair, never a replacement.

>>513810746
too late*

>>513806697 (OP)
Never forget what they took from us.

>>513806697 (OP)
Talk me out of getting my friends F250, a vintage camper off craigslist and upgrading them both overtime?

>>513806697 (OP)
>can’t be shut down by EMP
easier to repair after EMP damage, but far from immune.

Best truck in the world but by 2004 they also became filled with electronic bullshit and CANBUS garbage

>>513811459
arent rangers disposable trucks made for tradies just starting out?
better off getting a 90s f150 instead of trying to nurse a vehicle thats been destined to be cash for clunkers fodder from the blueprinting stage

>>513806697 (OP)
Most normies don't know how classic solid axle trucks drive and handle - they're not like the Homo Civic they're used to.

If I was a poor/normie who wanted to stop being a faggot I'd find a low mile used Jeep Wrangler TJ with D44s (likely a Rubicon but can be easily swapped) and the classic 4.0L inline 6 if I was worried about computers in cars.

>>513806792
It's a bit more than 40k

>>513806737
Civilization is shit, living in caves is superior.

>>513806697 (OP)
That Chevys Too old anon
Sloppy steering wheel I mean. Suggestion wheel
Shit brakes
SHIT IGNITION AHHHHHHH!!!!!
It's made of steel so the energy transfers into the softest energy absorbent thing (Your internal organs)
Also the gas is expensive for this specific Chevy model

get yourself a 90s shitbox Saturn Buddy those things are so fucking slow your filling up monthly hell cylinder 1 might be dead so you get a 3cyl fuel economy boost get yourself a nice yard full of parts Saturn's

>>513812054
zased plastic fantastic saturn lover

can't get dinged if ur car is made from bottles

>>513806736
/thread. void the problem all together and don't drive.

>>513806697 (OP)
Take the vanpill.

>>513812128
They also shatter in nine million fucking little pieces when it's cold t. Owned one with all the plastic destroyed

I really liked my "My cars 500$ I will be merging" sticker I gave it cause niggers really did listen when they saw that Saturn logo

>>513809942
the official car of "i'll get a new car when this one dies..20 years later DIE ALL READY... you know what No, fuck it i'm keeping it now!"

absolutely can be shut down by EMP. you'd have to go to pre 1970 to find something immune to an EMP. there are some diesel injection cars/trucks from the 70s that would survive as well, only because they have mechanical injection. I used to collect motorcycles and those used something called an ignighter box, which used a very rudimentary micro controller, apparently they were in cars too.

>>513812328
as a rusty old w210 owner with two busted bumpers and a screaming turbodiesel engine i agree
the consumers fear the battleship shitbox owner. i pull my parts off busted car carcasses in a scrapyard, you have to wait for insurance, we are not the same
>>513812362
time is cyclical anon. you think about replacing it, but by the time you do, it's already cool again and you keep it
>>513812478
see w123. vacuum lines, full mechanical everything and nothing on the engine runs on electricity the moment your glow plugs get warm enough for combustion

>>513810746
Our vehicles are old.
My farm truck is from 1973
My daily driver is from 1988
My son's car is from 2000
My tractor is from 1947
I keep things going because we do not own anything in this world - not really
We just take care of things until the next generation takes over
These are worth it because my family is worth it
Having my farm truck's fuel tanks replaced as I write this
It's less expensive to keep old things going than to buy new

>>513812605
and that is the moment you realize you have more in common with a dude in a balkan armpit than an american four tax brackets above you. the moment you realize posturing with vehicles is pointless is the moment you find your mind at utter ease, for you have escaped the shackles of your own generation and found solace in the unbreakable technology that your forefathers remember

>>513812602
Ford made 1/2 million of these little 8N's
They are literally everywhere and you can buy parts for them at the local feed store
This is a slightly younger one from 1951 - no idea if it still has the 6V electrics - that's on the other side
Mine has been updated to 12v electrics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVGqMR3vYTw
Guy down the street got one last year

>>513812478
you can kill a HEI with a strong enough EMP but you can also unfuck your shit in about 1 minute, not to mention the amount of belligerent old fucking boomers that tore the HEI right off and went back to points and condenser is astronomical

>>513806736
Still usually 5x cheaper than new

>>513811833
Ranger is the bigest selling ute in NZ and Australia. Reality is an F150 doesn't fit anywhere here and everyone thinks you're a homo for trying. They're ok trucks in my experience, painfully underpowered but they do what the box says.
>>513810411
This. Most cars weren't even galvanized before the 90's, and now they're just plastic shit. take the 1985 - 2010 pill.

you boys are cute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FYtNQ8izM0
see ya soon

>>513812602
>time is cyclical
i read that as "time is cynical" and it felt more appropriate

Saved this thing from getting crushed in 2019. All local mechanics said it was too far gone (frame rot) and the cost to repair it would exceed the value of the car. Proved them all wrong after I found a reliable welder willing to do the work for cheap. Today it's still my daily driver. Car does have blowby (which just means I need to refill the oil every 2 weeks) and a few other minor problems, but nothing that can't be fixed. Pretty reliable for the most part.

>>513812802
Heh... there is some truth in that.
You would like our house, I think
It looks like a cross between a small farmhouse and a museum
I have tools from my ancestors going back generations - I still use some of them.
I was going through my father's stuff - he passed on 5 years ago.
Found a giant bench vise - weighs as much as a bag of concrete - brand new, and right when I needed one. Didn't even know he had one.
Old man has been gone 5 years now and still teaching me.

>>513809647
What I want is Leaded 98 octane at the pump. This is my mid term issue.

>>513813015
>Most cars weren't even galvanized before the 90's
True.
That's why Ziebarting exists.

>>513806736
Yeah and the sellers always put like two words in the description and don't tell you jack shit about the billions of problems it has.

>>513813555
Go to your local airfield.
They will sell to you.
Aviation gasoline is like 105 octane

>>513812605
Based Grand Pa. Teach them well.

>>513813359
Man I always loved those eagles. the 4x4 versions can drive on literally everything.

nice car, man. hold onto it.

>>513806697 (OP)
>computerized to the point where the government can literally shut down if not control your vehicle
They can take control of your vehicle and kill you that way.
All these new cars have gps, wifi and cameras in them. You have to pay a ton to get it removed. They made it expensive to remove those parts.
How will bad goys protect themselves who criticize the jew government?
When you buy a new car have to shell out thousands more to get those parts removed.

Early 2010s civic chad checking in. Love my little go kart

Not a classic Vehicle but also not a modern faggy E-Car. I have wet dreams about this car for past 2 weeks and i can't stop thinking about it, might buy it in few months.
What do u think pol, good choice?

>>513812987
old tractors are unkillable- unlike any john deere in the past 20 years, apparently. putting electronics in critical agricultural equipment was a mistake- thinking that your underpaid indian outsourced engineer knows more about the equipment than the guy that uses it to earn a living doubly so. happy to see people treating old equipment like it should be- well maintained and doing work.
>>513813015
was referring to the anon's picture of the plastic rangers in the states, but yeah. australia is way different- though in honesty having access to the jappo market is a huge win for keeping old shitboxes running. i'm betting my head even ranger utes can't stand up to a clapped out old soarer in reliability, unless your gubmint is imposing some gay ass law against old shitboxes
>>513813359
oh god this vehicle carries the ghost of lee iacocca with it. hopefully too economy for any sort of gay electrics to be introduced as potential points of failure
>>513813522
i very likely would, anon. i still use my grandfather's old tools on the same bench he used in the basement- i haven't bought a single screwdriver, wrench or ratchet since my teens- i barely remember him now since he died 22 years ago, but there's something in gripping that shiny chrome-covered wrench that makes me think of him every time i have a bolt that needs loosening.

If you own a truck and don't use the bed for anything then you're 100% faggot

>>513813002
word on the street is you need my cock

>>513813902
just like all german cars. good on outside, ugly on inside. but since all people wanna show off, they dont care about interior, they may as well sit in some suzuki cheap interior as long as it looks like ferrari on outside

>>513813902
mercfag here, if you're comfy paying 2k euros or whatever krona that is to recycle diesel injectors, go right ahead.
your passengers will /not/ like the cls sloping roof in the back unless they fixed that from the 1st gen of the cls. its a cdi, keep a good eye on those fucking injectors, cost a fuckload to replace, especially in a car of that vintage thats potentially been assraped by 5 turkish dealers before you got your hands on it

>>513813902
that's a literal piece of shit on wheels
only gipsies, balkanites or literal retards still think mercedes is anything of value these days

>>513814166
>check flag

typical gipsy and his 10th hand murhcedes

>>513814516
>bulgarian
>gypsy
tell me you're an albanian without telling me you're an albanian. don't you have mdma to deliver to the netherlands, mahmoud?
>>513814407
truth. if mercedes, only buy models from before the new millenium- 96 was the year engineers got replaced by business managers, old mercs still on top, new ones still renault-tier garbaj

>>513808479
Maximum keks

>>513808638
Literally projecting, you’re the reddit

>>513808712
Find that all time greatest Top Gear episode where they drop an ‘80s Toyota truck off a building… for its final test. What’s more, talk to a mechanic and you’ll learn among other things Toyota is distinguished for having made engines that can actually run 30 minutes or more without oil. They’re the most bullet proof thing you could buy for instance if your parents were senile and unlikely to maintain it. The after market value reflects this. Former /o/-fag and car collector here.

>>513806697 (OP)
I'm going to take Lada Niva pill soon enough. My wife thinks I'm nuts, but it's just my midlife crisis and I always loved the sight of it. Beauty is in simplicity. Modern cars are utter garbage by intention.

>>513806697 (OP)
That truck still has an electronic ignition 1973 onward and an emp.would ruin it. You need something with ignition points like a 1972 and back.

>>513807028
MEIN CRACKER

>>513814838
Toyota trucks are memes, just go buy some old square body and have a cheaper and better experience.

>>513814886
wish we could get those here.

>>513814886
>I'm going to take Lada Niva pill soon enough.

>>513813727
I've been doing that. The feds have been working on doing away with it altogether.

>>513806697 (OP)
>Modern cars are pure shit, and they’re computerized to the point where the government can literally shut down if not control your vehicle.
I believe this was the real reason behind the cash for clunkers debacle. They just wanted to take as many non-computerized cars off the road because they knew where the auto industry was headed and knew that they were running out of time to pull all of those older perfectly fine vehicles off the road before people caught on to how shitty fully computerized zogmobiles really would become.

>>513814132
Interior looks comfy to me desu.
>>513814166
Sounds rough.
But what i checked to maintain it in a i need to spend somewhere 7000-8000SEK (630-720euro) a year just for the service and straight up change some parts like brakes etc. to make it drive smooth 25000-30000SEK for the start.
then belt in few years which is another 30000SEK+ considering it has over 100k km's
Yeah im prepared for the spendings, its a good car and i like it

Fords are for posers. Trucks and cars.
That is all.

>>513807028
It's time to remember.

>>513815187
Some might think it's tacky, and they might even be right, but I love the faux woodgrain all over the interior. It might be partially fueled by nostalgia though, but idc.

>look for 1st gen tacoma
>$15k with rotting bed
>no budging on price
>look for 2nd gen tacoma
>$20k not budging on price
I went with a 2013 because the owner was cool and it came with a color matched shell already. They're absurdly fucking expensive though I hate how they're $50k brand new or $30k clapped out.

>>513815304
Yeah it really has this elegant classy look to it that's what i like in cars, but i don't want something completely old, so thats i go with this one.

>>513815187
springs or air? important distinction to make- keep some funds saved up in case anything comes up if airbags, nobody likes a saggy merc. if thats really a 350, then its probably om642, which could leak at the bottom of the block. repair's a one-time thing but you should keep an eye if its done, since it might come up. otherwise, yeah. not a bad car as long as you can handle early 2010 merc maintenance

>>513812213
void the problem all together and slit your wrists

>>513806792
3k for a Saturn that "runs"

>>513813359
SOVL

>>513815421
another tacoma depreciation (lack thereof) survivor. happened to me last time i tried to find a proper landcruisers, both the lexus cruisers and the fucking toyotas refuse to go down in price, its fucking unreal brother

>>513806697 (OP)
>Reliably built on a special line
>Made of exotic metals like A L U M I N U M and M A G N E S I U M
>EMPs fear the insight
>Drive all day and still have three quarters of a tank.
>5 speed manual
You're retarded if you don't have your home in a faraday cage desu.

>>513813902
>I like this niggercar
I didn't know arabs used /pol/.

>>513815187
>Interior looks comfy to me desu.
comfy=/= beautiful
theyre tough and practical, but dont match with exetior. same fate is of VW passat CC. looks sexy sleek on inside and inside is your average VW peasant shit

i wouldnt buy one without V8 petrol anyway

>>513813359
>cost to repair it would exceed the value of the car.
Thats always been a retarded argument to promote buying new cars.

You should see about boring thr pistons out and installing ones slightly larger to fix the blowby

>>513815519
>springs or air?
seller doesn't mention that so i assume it has steel springs
>keep some funds saved up in case anything comes up if airbags
i always have money on the side just in advance, i never spend all my savings, im not retarded lol.
> then its probably om642, which could leak at the bottom of the block. repair's a one-time thing but you should keep an eye if its done, since it might come up.
thank you, i will keep eye on that.

>>513806697 (OP)
How paranoid do you have to be to worry about EMPs or the guberment shutting off your car? lmao at your life. 2 more weeks!

>>513816230
I guess everyone has its own taste.

Any 20+ year old vehicle is likely clapped the fuck out. It will not be reliable unless it is fully restored. Even then, the parts available now are total shit. After 15 years, most manufacturers stop making replacement parts and the only parts available are aftermarket. Every aftermarket parts company has been taken over by kikes and sells chink made shit.

Most parts have a 1 in 5 failure rate out of the box. Even if it doesn't fail right away, it lives for 40,000 miles at most, where the original part went 120k+.

If it takes you 1.5 hours on average to disassemble and reassemble components to replace a part-- you now must do that for every 40k instead of 120k. Multiply this times every shit autoparts store part you have put on the vehicle. Also consider your average normie is not a professional mechanic. They are a parts swapper. When 1 out 5 parts is fucked from the get go-- how are they supposed to know how to triage each part on a pre ODBII vehicle? How much time are they gonna spend learning all this before they can actually go somewhere and not worry about breaking down and being shot by niggers? If you are going this route, stock shit like pic related and be prepared to turn wrenches the rest of your life.

>>513815679
I saw a dude selling a trd offroad 2016 on fbm for $35k with over 200k miles on it. Clearly an overland build with the whole traction board and rotopax bullshit mounted everywhere. It sold before the owner even got back to me.
The guy that sold me my truck said he got a ton of offers but he sold to me for less because everyone else was looking to resell it for a profit afterward.
I'm wondering who the people buying clapped trucks for new truck prices are. No one can afford new trucks for some reason but they can afford a used one for the same price?

>>513813902
Consumerism

>>513816817
It's the Toyota tax, anon. The ones that refuse to depreciate are the ones that refuse to die, no matter how clapped out or how many miles- peace of mind comes at a premium.
Nobody can afford anything anywhere right now- at least in the states mouthbreathing social-validation-seeking retards get to finance that shit at 30% APR, pushing the note on a new truck around for a few months before it ends up gathering dust in a repo lot. It's really not new truck prices- go check the videos from BladedAngel or any of the videos from that dude watching car note tiktoks- 30k can, at best, buy you a pre-owned shitbox if you're shopping new. At least when you dump it into a 10 year old Toyota, you know you won't end up with a piston-shaped hole in the block by the end of the first year.
American car manufacturers are a total joke- as are all the fucking rest. All the new cars are trying to move up a fucking tax bracket- even new Jeeps cost a fucking wagon of cash despite being built like a Soviet panel bloc (welded by drunk Vietnamese labor-camp slaves with no respect to tolerances or proper fitment. New cars are a scam, glad you managed to get a relatively new truck at all- at least Toyota managed to survive a decade before they started recalling cars over horrendous engineering.

>>513815421
Obama's "Cash for Clunkers" program was a car selling technique disguised as a charity, with the true intention of getting old but usable cars off the road so you have to buy the new computerized shit.

>>513817751
That's absolutely true. Though less a conspiracy for new computarized shit, more as a cash injection for retarded corporations privatizing profits and socializing losses. There's a whole documentary on the topic by the fat spic that co-hosts that faggot RCR's show. And they scrapped shit like GMC Typhoons, the fucking gall on those niggers.

>>513816817
Over landers are over-weight. Tacoma's are too fat stock now. Take a reliable yota and bolt 10,000 of shit you don't need to overworked IFS and you have a POS that isn't worth half the stock MSRP. Let idiots who want a grocery getter lifestyle vehicle be idiots here and stay far away from these used Toyotas.

>>513813006
>Still usually 5x cheaper than new
And also has 250,000x more mileage too and about 20x more problems to worry about. It surely is a great deal

>>513816783
I'm waiting for automated manufacturing to trickle down to the consumer market. A CNC mill I can program to make new control arms means I can start bulk ordering block steel and aluminum instead of hoping the chink knockoffs don't shear at the first pothole.
I even saw some people are printing their own gaskets and o rings out of TPU. If we could get subtractive manufacturing for metal parts I could Ship of Theseus my truck and keep it alive forever.
>>513817450
>picrel
$31k for brand new 2025 base model. I know with dealers you're not getting $31k for anything but you'd think with how many are rusting on lots for 2 years you'd think dealers would start giving msrp prices just to free up space. A 2023 tacoma is never selling at $50k.

>>513816783
you can explain this til you are blue in the face but they won't get it because they equate any old car to a very few highly sought after oddities and even those vehicals like the hilux and K5 etc. only got that status because the people who originally bought them also maintained them like the heavy machinery it is.

>>513807139
Karin Rebel

>>513807662
Maybe this one https://www.youtube.com/shorts/saLsSvE5Hac

>>513817885
The truth is that you need my cock.

>>513809089
Second gens have an ECU and a TCU, you fucking retard. First gens are the ones without computers. You want an '89-93 model with the VE pump. It's those, Early 6.9L IDI Fords and Detroit GM squarebodies. Anything else is going to have a shitty computer system that will brick if a magnet gets within a foot of it.

I'm just going to go ahead and say it, Toyota is a shit company. Their cars are unreliable, uninspiring, and unaffordable.

>>513817963
yeah bro modern build quality isn't absolutely fucking garbage. pick a new vehicle, open up jewtube, go see how it fails, or how many hundreds of thousand are currently on recall for a life-threatening problem or have build quality problems
>>513817997
fabrication is the god of vehicle maintenence. normies cannot into cnc or even manual fabrication, though. and yeah, 31k msrp? hell fuck no, dealership still oversell plastic garbage or don't have space for cheaper inventory later in the model years because they overbought during the pandemic, thinking they'd be able to sell everything over sticker because niggers with disposable incomes are going to pay anything for a new car. like there's a chink chip shortage still.

>>513818215
They don’t have ecu/tcus. It’s all mechanical

>>513814838
Fuckin sharp vehicle there

>>513817751
Cash 4 Clunkers was like a drop in the bucket compared to how many trucks rust the fuck out each year due to poorly sealed frames.
I agree the plan was to force people to buy new cars for the privacy invading ECUs though, the impact just wasn't as big as they were hoping.
>>513818301
>normies cannot into cnc or even manual fabrication, though.
Not yet. 3d printing is starting to encroach on the normies if office talk is anything to go by. At the very least mechanics are gonna start having automated cncs and make you a part for that might not exist online anymore.
>dealership still oversell plastic garbage or don't have space for cheaper inventory later in the model years because they overbought during the pandemic
Alright this makes sense, I can see how there's no room for base models because they riced out ones aren't selling like they thought.

>>513818755
hope you're right, anon. lucrative if true and directly benefits autists like me (engineers that could justify setting up a low-scale manufacturing operation that can outsource manufacturing to all the mechanics shops that need the parts)
>picrel
2021 f250 costing over 100k. who the fuck buys this shit? the vast majority of americans do /not/ need a 100k ((schwarzjew ops)) faggy blacked out f250 with a factory lift kit. and almost nobody that actually offroads'd even lift their head from the old tj they're running to even give it a second look.
and now that the economy's this garbage, nobody can even afford it too- not even the frivolous metropolitan faggots that'd otherwise buy it.

>>513814973
I grew up in the old Hiluxes that Americans seem to froth over nowadays and can confirm they're actually pretty fucking awful to live with. Slow and underpowered. The heater does nothing in the off chance it works. They require a surprising amount of regular maintenance. They're too small. My knees hit everything while I'm driving, especially in the single cab models. The only part of the Hilux meme that isn't a meme is they really will go anywhere.

>>513819268
People who have money for toys? Regular people just buy new around the 80k margin for nice trims and if you want a lift just put it on after.

>>513819430
It’s just the whole you want what you can’t have. I don’t get it either

>>513816004
>niggercar
>arabs
Shut up and enjoy driving your fat wife on the back of that pickup.

My dd is a 2025 service van with a gas card.
I get this out on nice days or bomb around in my old wore out jeep.

>>513809089
King cabs are for faggots.

>>513820077
Yeah, I see shitbox Buicks and Cadillacs that you guys wouldn't be seen dead in and think "wooooow coooool xD" so yeah

>>513819268
>2021 f250 costing over 100k. who the fuck buys this shit? the vast majority of americans do /not/ need a 100k
Me, and anyone with a business or farm. It's nice not being a poor brown retard.

>>513820448
Confirmed arabianigger! Go back Abdulla.

>>513806736
>>513806792
>>513811971
Actual retards, a decent classic driver could run you from 5k-15k and they can be had all day long. That includes all the meme machines like 69 Camaros and 70 Chevelles, landbarge Caddys and 4x4 trucks

>>513819430
It's entirely because of marketing. They see that Top Gear episode and the Taliban using them, and they suddenly think they're the greatest thing on the planet.
They completely ignore you when you talk about actual known problems like the $2bn fine Toyota had to pay for knowingly selling Hiluxes that are literally guaranteed to blow a DPF. Or the GR Corolla that lights itself on fire, but it's your own fault because you drove it too fast. Or the known problems in the northern hemisphere where they have far worse rust prevention than any other Japanese brand.
Or even just the little fact that if anybody's had the displeasure of sitting in a rental or Uber Camry in the last few years, they'll know that they dropped the roofline and it's now physically impossible for a 6' tall adult to sit in one without their head touching metal.

The fact is that Aussie larpers are all using Rangers now, South African farmers are using GWMs, and the durkadurka retards waging holy wars were never very smart to begin with.
Toyota has gone to absolute shit.

You're right about the "want what you can't have" mindset though. Same reason why they goon over Skylines but don't give a fuck about completely comparable cars like Mustangs from the same year.

>>513810010
Just wash your truck once a week. Some car washes in places that salt the roads also have special undersprays that protect against salt corrosion. For $35-40 a month I get unlimited car washes.

>>513821495
I've had better luck buying used euro cars and just running them to death. Irony is that an early 2000s Volvo with 200ks on it will run for years and the only issues you might have are a bushing or a brake disk.
Tried to convince my brother of this but he couldn't help himself. Had to pay $10,000 for a 30 year old hilux with 350,000kms on the clock and has had endless trouble with the fucking thing.

>>513821333
I can assure you that i am more white than you amerimutt.

>>513821442
Where are you finding 69 camaros and 70 chevelles for 5-15k that don't need 20k worth of work done to them before being able to drive them? Those are early 2000's prices.

>>513821442

You are not daily driving a 5k classic car anymore unless you turn wrenches and keep it barely going down the road as a shitbox. In that case there are cheaper shitboxes available from the early 2000's with cheaper parts and easier to diagnose systems. A 3.8 GM anything. A panther Ford. A manual corolla or civic, a 5.3 vortec truck or late FI 300 inline ford, etc.

An old car is fine for a boomer or gen-xer that grew up with these things. But if you want it reliable to goto work and back, you are putting 25k of parts in it and don't ask about the labor required or the insurance cost to get it to daily status with agreed upon value. You are also now an idiot magnet. Every fucking idiot on the road will stop thinking when they see a "cool car" and drive right into the side of you. Those who have them know this phenomena. I won't take mine anywhere near a major city or interstate.

>>513818755
Rust isn't a problem in most of the country, only on the humid coast areas.

>>513822339
>i am more white than you
Something no real White man has to say. Pack your bags, dunecoon.

>>513822117
240DL redbook was fucking indestructible. Except the ac, it was shit. It was also ugly and gutless. But absolutely indestructible.

My 70's Mav with an inline six was awesome too. It broke down occasionally (Ford) and needed stuff but it could always be fixed on the side of the road and NOS parts were $14 in the early 90's-- regardless of the part. AC was ice cold.

Nowadays, all the parts available for a 70's Mav would be chink shit that doesn't even fit out of the box and cost a minimum of $85.

>>513823383
get a 3D printer for plastic stuff and learn to fabricate basic metal pieces. it'll save you so much money in the long run, especially on less common vehicles. you need my cock.

>>513822979

Umm. No. The whole upper Midwest salts the roads all winter and cars there rust out faster than they do in Florida.

Rust isn't an issue where I am at, but anything rubber, cloth or plastic falls to pieces if left outside within 5-7 years.

>>513823532
Already had one. It sat idle and I weld steel shit and fig it, like a real man. Plastic is for women. Wife's cricket is useful for gaskets though.

>>513821442
Glad to hear you came out of your 30 year coma.

>>513806697 (OP)
EMP caused by a nuclear explosion in the lower atmosphere, emps are pre strikes to nuclear apocalypse.
You still need computers in old cars
Lead gas ?
Where the fuck are you going to find lead gas !!!!

>>513806697 (OP)
I love the sleek look of old classic.

I got this 1978 nova for 2,000$ it's 3 on the tree, 250 inline 6, mono carb, has a bit of rust on the right rocker panels and rear quarter panel, but it's so easy to fix, all you need is a socket set a flat head and a Phillips head, just cleared out the flue filter cus it was running bad, now it's running like a champ.

Interior

>>513823717
Not my problem. Everything is fine here in the mountains

>>513808735
Anything late model IDI (Toyota, Nissan 4.2, Ford 6.9/7.3, dodge 5.9 12 valve, Chevy 6.5) with a turbo charger.
Inline 6 diesel being most desirable and easy to work on and natural harmonics guarantees durability, with Inline 6 gas being a close second.
Either way, anything mid 90's is what you want.