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Anonymous (ID: 0d5E6Ciz) Russian Federation No.513812153 >>513812259 >>513812537 >>513813084 >>513814487 >>513815564 >>513815813 >>513816022 >>513816199 >>513816458 >>513818883 >>513819109 >>513820344 >>513820686 >>513820808 >>513821709 >>513821899 >>513821981 >>513822569 >>513822782 >>513822981 >>513823056 >>513823639 >>513825193 >>513825359 >>513825489 >>513826028 >>513826807 >>513828237 >>513828933 >>513829981 >>513830207
Positional meat grinder
1.7 milion experience formula

The positional meat grinder is a new strategy of war. “Positional meat grinder” refers to grinding down enemy forces with weapons of mass destruction, such as FABs, KABs, ODABs, Iskanders (all types except nuclear and EMP), and others.

The advantages of this strategy are as follows:
- Demilitarization of the enemy side (NATO, Ukraine) takes place in a limited area.
Demilitarization includes the destruction of enemy military equipment and manpower.
- The limited area of combat operations reduces the area of mine clearance, search, and disposal of unexploded ordnance for post-war cleanup.
- The limited area narrows the area of destruction, minimizing the resources spent on post-war infrastructure restoration.

The last two points directly affect the economy of the initiating side (Russia). Only the party possessing weapons of mass destruction, i.e. Russia, can benefit from such strategy. Ukraine does not have such weapons. And even if it did, it only has one example for advertising in the media.

Evidence that this strategy works:
- Forced mobilization in Ukraine, human rights no longer exist
- Rutte's cries and whining, the childish rage of EU mini-politicians, and NATO's feverish construction of fortifications on the border with Russia tell us that the EU is afraid. NATO's military industry cannot keep up with Russia and is lagging far behind.
- Economic regression and deindustrialization in Europe caused not only by the lack of cheap Russian resources and markets, but also by the multi-billion dollar support for Ukraine, which has led to the depletion of European economy.
- Attempts to negotiate peace with Russia.

When someone says that Russia is spending a lot of money on this war, that person needs to understand a few simple things:
1. Russia has bottomless resources.
2. All military companies in Russia belong to Russia (state corporations). Russia spends huge amounts of money buying products from itself.

Any objections?
Anonymous (ID: wVamUvzM) United States No.513812259 >>513812531
>>513812153 (OP)
i don't think of it as killing them. i think of it as freeing them from jews.
Anonymous (ID: 0d5E6Ciz) Russian Federation No.513812531 >>513815968 >>513819864 >>513820555 >>513825463
>>513812259
What does the concept of the danger posed by Jews mean to you - their race or their religion? Or are they one and the same?
Anonymous (ID: Hw7JdCe/) Netherlands No.513812537 >>513814563 >>513826721
>>513812153 (OP)
14:1
Anonymous (ID: VJrnXUbm) Canada No.513813084 >>513814078 >>513814170 >>513817852 >>513819022 >>513821661 >>513828659
>>513812153 (OP)
>The advantages of this strategy are as follows:
what are the disadvantages?
Anonymous (ID: 3wG7LXEM) United States No.513814078 >>513814233
>>513813084
I think the main disadvantage is simply time. It has all of these benefits at the cost of it being fairly slow. If your objective is time-sensitive, this is not ideal. Additionally, against a better-equipped opponent, this would only allow your enemy to gain the initiative (i.e. sitting around and waiting for the enemy to start "counteroffensyiv").

Against Ukraine/EU/NATO it's the perfect strategy. Won't work against China though
Anonymous (ID: 0d5E6Ciz) Russian Federation No.513814170 >>513829070
>>513813084
As the previous anon said, it's time. Time works both ways here.
Anonymous (ID: VJrnXUbm) Canada No.513814233 >>513814696 >>513814817
>>513814078
Thanks for the good reply. One thing that struck me about the video in OP is that it makes all the drone gore videos look extremely pathetic, lol. Like okay, you killed _a guy_, great job.
Anonymous (ID: 0d5E6Ciz) Russian Federation No.513814435
>>51381253
Anonymous (ID: 6bN9RCZi) Finland No.513814487 >>513814621
>>513812153 (OP)

2 more weeks kek how many generals has Ukraine lost compared to your Ziggerland


Ryssä
Anonymous (ID: 0d5E6Ciz) Russian Federation No.513814563 >>513814817
>>513812537
Anonymous (ID: 0d5E6Ciz) Russian Federation No.513814621 >>513815490
>>513814487
Anonymous (ID: wGP4otFc) Norway No.513814696
>>513814233
since the beginning the ukies had to restort to celebrating single deaths, whereas the russians just use these big bombs on troop concentrations
Anonymous (ID: 3wG7LXEM) United States No.513814817 >>513815747
>>513814233
>drone gore videos look extremely pathetic
Well, tactically or strategically, the events in the videos are completely irrelevant. Usually these videos are of torturing soldiers already taken out of the fight. Their main goal is demoralizing enemy troops and entertainment for internet sadists, and the requirement for producing them is to just find some guy and drop hand grenades on him from a quadcopter while he runs around (similar to the ISIS execution videos, for example).

The videos that are actually interesting (at least to me) and indicate realities on the battlefield are videos of actual military achievements or battles (be it the bombardment in OP or something like this https://files.catbox.moe/9qifah.mp4 or >>513814563)
Anonymous (ID: 0d5E6Ciz) Russian Federation No.513815243 >>513817859
Anonymous (ID: jgioAsl6) United States No.513815332 >>513816084 >>513817356
I'm sure Russia would eventually take over Ukraine, but at what cost?
Russia used to be respected as the top 2 world power, this Pakistan tier dynamics will take away any leverage it could have in international diplomacy for the next hundred years. Who's gonna be scared of Russia when all its neighbours know they can just grin the Russian army down indefinitely and profit from it via Western gibs? More importantly, who's gonna buy weapons from Russia? How is Russia gonna bully Kazhakstan et al? Once the energy map reconfigures, who are they selling their oil and gas to? Is India gonna risk 100% tariffs on its total exports to get 20% cheaper oil?
Putin should have nuked on day one. He would still be a pariah but at least a scary one.
Anonymous (ID: V2zavP8q) United States No.513815490
>>513814621
80 more good men added to the infamous "Zelensky missing list"
Anonymous (ID: eehssIDP) United States No.513815564
>>513812153 (OP)
This is like WWI, pretty insane to have been watching for 3.5 years now.
Anonymous (ID: VJrnXUbm) Canada No.513815747 >>513816927
>>513814817
yeah the videos of large scale things happening are more interesting for sure. I still don't enjoy seeing the videos like in OP though. Sure, they're cool but think of all the cool buildings and innocent people getting killed. Shit is gay. Another thing: notice how reddit midwits will sperg out endlessly about AI being a danger to humanity, but nothing about drones? Drones are the real danger, they're the thing that will track you down and kill you if you make a jew or woman sad. We should be passing laws about limiting use of killer drones not limiting lame LLMs.
Anonymous (ID: KlzHnTwn) United States No.513815758
Doesn't everything get left in rubble and ruins. Do you have like satellite view of cities before and after Russian advancement ? If he was trying to not do free demo I would've been surprised.
Anonymous (ID: ZXIqsOyS) Germany No.513815813
>>513812153 (OP)
chatgpt thread
Anonymous (ID: JPfNyvyW) Malaysia No.513815968 >>513817783
>>513812531
their rancid smell and their diseases mainly
Anonymous (ID: OYh8YPqg) Slovakia No.513816022 >>513816466
>>513812153 (OP)
is that grad ?
Anonymous (ID: 0d5E6Ciz) Russian Federation No.513816084 >>513817539 >>513817624 >>513817981
>>513815332
Man, we never wanted anyone to fear us. During Putin's 25 years in power, Russia has offered a huge number of concessions to the Western world in order to quell the Western Cold War mentality. This also includes an offer to join NATO (which the US rejected, as it did not want a weapons competitor in NATO), lucrative contracts and cheap prices for raw materials, and the opening of the market for investment and Western goods on very favorable terms. In the end, the West saw this as weakness, guided by the Cold War mentality, believing that Russia could only be talked to as a defeated rival in a lower hierarchy.

Putin himself ultimately said that all these events prove that the West's hostility towards Russia has no ideological basis (implying the poor relations between the West and the USSR), but is primarily geopolitical. The very existence of Russia is a source of irritation for the West.
Anonymous (ID: 3NlVHex/) United States No.513816199
>>513812153 (OP)
Anonymous (ID: frn7emG5) United Kingdom No.513816458 >>513816927
>>513812153 (OP)
What weapon is that bros?
Anonymous (ID: 0d5E6Ciz) Russian Federation No.513816466 >>513816795 >>513816927
>>513816022
Thermobaric shells. They burn everything the cloud touches after detonation, and targets that are not visible are destroyed by an extremely sharp pressure drop.

I remember footage from 2022 showing Ukrainian positions after thermobaric shells were used. Everyone outside was reduced to a handful of ashes with the outlines of skeletons, while those who were sleeping on beds inside dugouts appeared unharmed but were dead, their insides turned to mush.
Anonymous (ID: frn7emG5) United Kingdom No.513816795
>>513816466
What are they launched from?
Anonymous (ID: 3wG7LXEM) United States No.513816927 >>513816967 >>513819819 >>513819839
>>513815747
I think you're overselling the lethality of drones. They tend to be overrepresented in the media seen by normies because they're novel and because their effects are easy to film. The principles of warfare remain the same; drones are just another tool in the toolbox to those ends.
>>513816458
Grad mixed with TOS
>>513816466
Bad normie/journalist-tier explanation
Anonymous (ID: frn7emG5) United Kingdom No.513816967 >>513817334
>>513816927
Thanks
Anonymous (ID: 3wG7LXEM) United States No.513817334 >>513817567 >>513818883
>>513816967
Correction, looking closer, that video is just a Grad (HE) barrage. When Grad is mixed with TOS, it's a lot clearer.
Here's what a TOS barrage looks like, since you were cucked out of a TOS video.
Anonymous (ID: 6jvWlnJT) United States No.513817356
>>513815332
The framing of this entire conflict as Russia vs. Ukraine, and not Russia vs. all of NATO pouring every iota of effort into a bullshit proxy war, is one of the most humorous angles oft-repeated in this 77th brigade psyop campaign.
If anything it is NATO, the EU, and the US losing face and standing from this conflict.
NATO is also making the *exact same mistake* as Rome did before their collapse. Focusing on the frontiers whilst the core rots away.

Considering that they seem to be fully locked in as slaves of the international jews, betraying their nations as easily as they breathe...
NATO should collapse, and the EU disintegrated.
The only thing they represent is
>kowtowing to evil jew banker/corpo overlords
>protecting global pedo networks(Ukraine was where they harvested much of their "stock" before this war)
>an unrelenting onslaught of niggers and poos
>selling out to the islamic menace
>nigger murals in Baghdad before the entire op was sold out for an arms deal
>fag flags everywhere.
>saluting women and trannies in a military hellbent on erasing all martial competence, prioritizing it being a nigger women daycare.

It's been more than 10 years since this entire farce started.
It's more akin to the Spanish Civil War prior to WW2, where all the new weapons and R&D were tested on the hapless Spaniards.
The foreign troops and equipment fighting on both sides now is almost parallel to this. Western IC, govs, Norks, Chinks, etc. testing out all their stuff.
But all the new toys like drones seem like a trial run to them being unleashed on Western civilians before the dipshit elites move onto the next phase of their tyranny.
Anonymous (ID: 4ziGu4cm) No.513817539 >>513825050
>>513816084
> We never wanted anyone to fear us
Chechenia
Dagestan
Chechnia (Again rofl)
Sakartvelo
Arresting your own people for holding a blank piece of paper

Arresting your own people for saying I think

Do I need to say more? You niggers only know how to rule through fear and now you expect everyone to buy your hurr durr we only want peace and to coexist bullshit.
Anonymous (ID: frn7emG5) United Kingdom No.513817567 >>513817981
>>513817334
Wow, it also seems far more accurate
Anonymous (ID: V2zavP8q) United States No.513817624 >>513818756
>>513816084
>The very existence of Russia is a source of irritation for the West.

retard, our leaders in all western nations are the descendants of the Jews that were kicked out of Soviet Union, that is why you will always be the enemy(to them), Jews are not good at letting go of past grudges, they still moan and kvetch about small battles that happened 3,000 years ago
Anonymous (ID: KxaPMVJN) Canada No.513817783
>>513815968
That's indians
Anonymous (ID: KxaPMVJN) Canada No.513817852
>>513813084
It takes time, hence why you see posters from /uhg/ make the argument that Russia is winning too slowly
Anonymous (ID: Oi4vI6Hw) Germany No.513817859
>>513815243
That's fine. Germany will rebuild these in no time.
Anonymous (ID: 3wG7LXEM) United States No.513817981
>>513817567
Indeed, but generally the best way to identify TOS/aerosol bombs is by the resulting white billowing plume of smoke (similar to diesel smoke).
>>513816084
In your opinion, what would be the best way to improve ties with Russia for my country?
FYI, I am not a shitskin/American.
Anonymous (ID: hx9oXtVO) No.513818333
>513813084
1.7 million dead pigers
Anonymous (ID: 034EsMOF) United States No.513818756 >>513819858
>>513817624
Millions of khazar jews left Russia for America during the 1880s-1900s.
Russia felt like "phew, glad to get rid of all those kikes."
Little did they know those khazar kikes were using New York City as a staging area for the bolshevik revolution against Russia who they hated.
jew bankers moved a whole army of kikes from New York City back to Russia to manage the new bolshevik commie government after 1918.
Anonymous (ID: Q0jL9ZZg) United States No.513818883 >>513819277
>>513812153 (OP)
I have one objection. You allowed NAFO to occupy /k/. Please exterminate the Ukrainians faster so we can have our home back.
>>513817334
It's awesome how you can literally see the blast waves. The "thermobarics kill people through negative pressure" bullshit is so obviously wrong when you see that. I remember believing that shit when I was in high school and read World War Z.
Anonymous (ID: yZugAdUt) Germany No.513819022
>>513813084
> what are the disadvantages?
They will become apparent only when peace breaks out.
Anonymous (ID: yZugAdUt) Germany No.513819109
>>513812153 (OP)
Let's hope that NATO will send their troops so that you can denazify them too.
Anonymous (ID: 3wG7LXEM) United States No.513819277 >>513821951
>>513818883
Man, you just reminded me about the sad state of k
I haven't been there since like 2020
>bullshit is so obviously wrong
Pretty much all pop culture explanations for the mechanism of aerosol bombs is complete bullshit, but is still grounded in a small microscopic kernel of truth. They do produce "negative pressure" but so do all pressure waves produced by all explosives, by nature of what a pressure wave is lol
Of course, what kills you is not "extreme flames" or "inverting your lungs" but by collapsing the roof over your head.
Anonymous (ID: VYeRSzCq) No.513819819 >>513820299
>>513816927
>I think you're overselling the lethality of drones.
>fly drone over political enemy like in videos in your own country
>drop grenades
>"wow wonder what happened lol"
>"maybe it was a drone?"
>"yeah maybe the tooth fairy is real too lol fuck off"
political and expressly future genocide techniques are at the forefront and will not be swept under the rug for no fuckin reason because they're "overrepresented". pair that with ai and the hive mind shit, we're gonna see very interesting things when the current drones go from MG-08 to MG-34 in terms of refinement and use.
Anonymous (ID: VJrnXUbm) Canada No.513819839 >>513820299
>>513816927
yeah you're right there's just something incredibly dystopian about being killed by a hovering robot
Anonymous (ID: V2zavP8q) United States No.513819858
>>513818756
Yup, JFK's ruthless conspiracy speech was about this, he saw what was going on behind the scenes with the jewish blackmail and assassins, he got domed because he got to close to the sun
Anonymous (ID: 0IGZSRUT) France No.513819864
>>513812531
>their race of their religion?
Nope, none of them. Not their race since they are white, not their religion since it’s quite similar to Christianity of course.

The issue is their habits of course. And anyone neglecting that the Jews are literally at war against every single non-Jew, and that they will lie at you, and will not concede any pride or honor to you unless you are one of them, is either a Jew or a fool. It doesn’t touch their mind at all when they abuse you, they literally think you are a subhuman and you don’t even notice, and they call you Goy with his fellow Jews the day after acting like he is your friend. If you say anything, you are labeled antisemite and your life is destroyed.
Anonymous (ID: 3wG7LXEM) United States No.513820299 >>513820757 >>513820772
>>513819819
>future genocide techniques
I hate to rain on your parade, but my genocide technique is leagues ahead of "drones" or "AI"
>>513819839
People have said the same shit about pretty much every new development in warfare. I think you and that other anon above have just let movies and TV rot your brains into thinking that real life is some kind of comic book.
Anonymous (ID: rPVl1uOt) United States No.513820344
>>513812153 (OP)
Z.
Anonymous (ID: mdCUlHGz) United States No.513820555
>>513812531
Their religion because it is inherently a religion about ethnic supremacy. They are the "chosen" while you are a goy. So, all jews, even non religious ones view goys as subhuman because of the things they were taught in childhood.
Anonymous (ID: ZA8Gr/SS) United States No.513820686
>>513812153 (OP)
>1.7 milion experience formula
ivan, you dont really believe that do you? its worse if it is true because it makes the russian army look even more retarded for stalling out on the frontlines against angry babushkas yelling at them, since the entire ukranian military would be dead at that point if those numbers were real.
Anonymous (ID: VYeRSzCq) No.513820757
>>513820299
alright but you're the one getting genocided right now have fun imagining it on LSD
Anonymous (ID: VJrnXUbm) Canada No.513820772
>>513820299
I don't watch movies or tv. Drone bombings were cringe and gay when obama did them, and they're cringe and gay now too. But you make a decent point about every new form of weaponry seeming dishonorable. I guess in the end people are dead so it's not a big difference in how they get there. I'm mainly just calling out anti-AI-fags as hypocrites.
Anonymous (ID: RK2ceH7u) Germany No.513820808 >>513820941
>>513812153 (OP)
>positional meat grinder
Did chatGPT come up with that?
Anonymous (ID: 0IGZSRUT) France No.513820941
>>513820808
OP is Jew so he might as well just come ou with all that bullshit by himself
Anonymous (ID: bTR4z01Y) United States No.513821661
>>513813084
Takes a lot of time, high casualties for both sides (assuming russian casualties are roughly ~25% of what Ukraine suffers) and if it happens in an urban area it will be completely devastated
Anonymous (ID: POKGtKZM) No.513821709 >>513821951 >>513822279 >>513823393
>>513812153 (OP)
That's a cope.
Iraq had 7000 (SEVEN THOUSAND) surface to air defense vehicles, a massive ground army and NATO (mostly USA) just cut through it like butter in a few weeks. Iraq had way more air defenses than Ukraine, and after 3 years Russia still can't afford to overfly the country.

The reason you guys even have to resort to attrition strategies is because you don't have the amount of satellite and air recon intelligence and the amount of air force and long range precision guided weapons to crush the Ukrainian military.
It's not a good strategy, because Russia is also suffering massive losses. It's just the only strategy that you can use, because you lack the modern weaponry and technological advantage that NATO has.

Have you managed to produce more than a dozen Su-57 yet? In the meanwhile USA built 1200+ F-35s.
Yeah you can make a lot of artillery shells, wow congratulations, any third world country with a metal foundry can do that.
Sure, you will barely manage to reach your goals and capture 20% of Ukraine. But any first world country would have crushed Ukraine in less than a month, and without losing hundreds of thousands of their own men.
Anonymous (ID: AlB501zX) United States No.513821899
>>513812153 (OP)
This is so retarded. If you would have channeled all the resources you used in artillery and rocketry into drones instead, you would have won the war three years ago. This isn't 1915 any more.
Anonymous (ID: Q0jL9ZZg) United States No.513821951
>>513819277
>you just reminded me about the sad state of k
We /k/ommandos are a displaced people, our homeland living under the oppression of the NAFO Occupation Government.
>what kills you is not "extreme flames" or "inverting your lungs" but by collapsing the roof over your head.
Actually it's Lo Pan.
>>513821709
Iraqi air defenses were both substantially weaker than Ukraine's and never completely suppressed during the Gulf War. Your pop history understanding of the war is embarrassing.
Anonymous (ID: 86PbAYVd) Chile No.513821981
>>513812153 (OP)
Please uncle Sam meat grind all venecos.
Anonymous (ID: POKGtKZM) No.513822279 >>513822426 >>513823393
>>513821709
You guys tried to destroy Ukraine's power network and all you managed to do were a few blackouts and daily power quotas for the civilians. Do you know why you failed to shut down Ukraine's power network? Because the only thing you can mass produce are artillery shells and drones.

Your can only make like a dozen high tech weapons like ballistic missiles each week that you fire off as soon as they are ready to keep up the pressure. And you probably have to smuggle in electronics to make them from Chinese black/gray market.

Russia simply cannot produce the amount of precision weapons that NATO does, which is what enables nations to win wars by destroying every important target in a country. With only artillery and drones, you have to resort to bleeding the enemy on the frontlines.
Anonymous (ID: Q0jL9ZZg) United States No.513822426
>>513822279
Are you joking?
Anonymous (ID: AzVoqu9M) Latvia No.513822569
>>513812153 (OP)
>Russia has bottomless resources
Someone should let russians know.
Anonymous (ID: OiZ1n5Ea) Lithuania No.513822782
>>513812153 (OP)
>Any objections?
Yes, winning the war in two weeks is preferable than winning one in 5 years.
Anonymous (ID: pgE3c49G) Russian Federation No.513822981
>>513812153 (OP)
That's the Russian military school all right - after shitting yourself, instead of doing assessments of what went wrong and working to improve it just quickly sit down and pull a whole new doctrine out of your ass where things currently unfolding are presented as planned and desirable. Worked since "kiting Napoleon to lure him to Moscow".
Anonymous (ID: WBpZ4w45) United Kingdom No.513823056
>>513812153 (OP)
As long as im not fighting in it its not my problem
Anonymous (ID: VYeRSzCq) No.513823393
>>513821709
>>513822279
all these details and yet so narrow in thought it wouldn't even matter underlining it as no masquerading opposition response like a human and not some GPTkike hybrid unless it's a post I'm making right now. Extreme oranges-and-apples shit here alongside dimwittedly dogmatic appraisal of the goals of this war.
Anonymous (ID: 5BIryCPm) United States No.513823639 >>513827069
>>513812153 (OP)
Russia's head Jews created this whole idea of a "war economy", whereby Russia prints money to buy military equipment from itself. Throwing away said equipment in the Ukraine ensures that this circlejerk system can continue to work. Even Ukrainian counterattacks only benefit the system because they ensure that more money will be spent building replacements for whatever they destroyed.
Anonymous (ID: aSI4+NwR) United Kingdom No.513825050
>>513817539
Nigger, pls.
>Chechenia
>Dagestan
Islamic terrorists beheading ethnic Russians INSIDE Russia (they are part of Russia, dumb fuck).
>but they are Russian cause you are enslaving orcs reeee
Listen, nog, and listen careful - russia let ussr and eastern bloc dissolve for free (for free, beltoid Troon) and took on their national debts on itself on top. Cold War was not real war and russia could easily keep ussr by steamrolling various beltoids and chakras with tanks but being extremely kind and altruistic let all those niggers go with all the infra for free. Few bits of Caucasus remained with russia and started chipping out.
>Sakartvelo
Furry ape, your hook nose is visible. https://www.reuters.com/article/world/georgia-started-war-with-russia-eu-backed-report-idUSTRE58T4MO/

Apes started and got their ape-skulls crushed. Road to Tbilisi was open and Russian army, again, in its eternal mercifulness let fur leave, but easily could have taken it and genocided your kind if it really wanted to.
Anonymous (ID: xrF1DDcw) United States No.513825193
>>513812153 (OP)
14:1 zigger
Anonymous (ID: fEmscVEg) United States No.513825359
>>513812153 (OP)
>Attempts to negotiate peace with Russia

Western leaders don't seem very serious about this, but it's hard to tell if that's deliberate strategy or simply political chaos in the US foreign services.
Anonymous (ID: szAPIRGa) United States No.513825463
>>513812531
>what danger
Their appeal to empathy while they harbor none. Their claim to being special, above all laws and customs, their stranglehold on the arts, writing and sciences, and their desire to bring others low. It's not just jews. Any Exceptionalism is worthy of total extermination. America is extremely guilty of this, but in our defense, we were tricked and infested by these vermin. Please grind our meats so that some of the cancer gets grinded away please, I'm begging you to set us free. I pray every day that god or space aliens will come down and fix this mess, but nobody is listening except for my gangstalkers. Please grind us into burgers, Ivan.
Anonymous (ID: pr54WR7O) United States No.513825489
KEK this nigga claiming Russia is considered about building infrastructure >>513812153 (OP)
Anonymous (ID: sVSRw1de) United States No.513826028
>>513812153 (OP)
But cnn says ukrain is winning
Anonymous (ID: wipDTD+u) No.513826721 >>513833416
>>513812537
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Anonymous (ID: V8bX5LYW) Poland No.513826807 >>513828519
>>513812153 (OP)
>1. Russia has bottomless resources.
>2. All military companies in Russia belong to Russia (state corporations). Russia spends huge amounts of money buying products from itself.

Imagine claiming you have unlimited resources, kek. Then imagine believing that state control activates it in an optimal strategy.

Rwanda are btfo'ing Congo, you fucking mongolid faggot.
Anonymous (ID: V8bX5LYW) Poland No.513827069 >>513827264 >>513828519 >>513831706 >>513833766
>>513823639
Russia are trading an insane amount of manpower hours, resources and time, in exchange for some dogshit land which is mined to fuck, and in utter ruin.

The initial offensive was an impressive, but they fucked it up immeasurably, kek. Now it's cope city, and Poland is scoring an insane amount of Russian loss.

I probably pay $1/year for 1000s of Muscovite deaths. lmao. Better than Netflix.
Anonymous (ID: ONhV++d6) Russian Federation No.513827264 >>513827446 >>513829771
>>513827069
>in exchange for some dogshit land
In exchange for THD (less able bodied hohols = lessened threat)
Anonymous (ID: dsnFCWDe) United States No.513827399
Popular opinion will swing towards russia soon
Anonymous (ID: V8bX5LYW) Poland No.513827446 >>513827907 >>513827947
>>513827264
ok, lmao, keep going.
I'm guessing the complete capture of Bakhmut Raion = the next strategic goal? Maybe this year?
Anonymous (ID: VJrnXUbm) Canada No.513827907 >>513827951
>>513827446
lol russia is winning too slow, PWNED
Anonymous (ID: ONhV++d6) Russian Federation No.513827947 >>513828047
>>513827446
>We Actually Never Needed It
Anonymous (ID: V8bX5LYW) Poland No.513827951
>>513827907
What is it winning, that Poland isn't winning 2fold?
Anonymous (ID: V8bX5LYW) Poland No.513828047 >>513828321
>>513827947
When did Poland recently need Bakhmut Raion?

You've spent 1% of this millennium trying to take it, kek.
Anonymous (ID: CvMdX5pD) Faroe Islands No.513828237 >>513828468 >>513829080 >>513829227
>>513812153 (OP)
>Rutte's cries and whining, the childish rage of EU mini-politicians, and NATO's feverish construction of fortifications on the border with Russia tell us that the EU is afraid. NATO's military industry cannot keep up with Russia and is lagging far behind.

You really haven't been paying attention to the war, have you? The crying is happening on your side. Mediev is constantly sobbing and threatening to nuke every capital in Europe. Lavrov flip flops every single fucking day just to flood the information space. I don't think he even knows which day it is anymore.

Russia hasn't won a war without western backing since never. You did not produce shit in WW2, everything was given to you through Murmansk. You are nothing just a fucking disease; a plague that the west must suffer. I will cheer when your society collapses, when you have no more able bodies to support your old, your weak, when China finally takes back their own clay. You will do nothing because nothing functions in your society. How much is it, 5% of your society don't even have roads so sustain traffic.
Sorry for the rantI just have that people believe Russia is capable of anything they're poor and Putin could have made Russia rich and powerful but no, he has USSR issues
Anonymous (ID: ONhV++d6) Russian Federation No.513828321
>>513828047
We’ve spent 1.7 million Ukrainian lives to take it so I’m not complaining
Anonymous (ID: KmqbI51O) United States No.513828468 >>513828924
>>513828237
>tf
>tp
stick to whaling instead of shit talking, your country has literally no history.
Anonymous (ID: Q0jL9ZZg) United States No.513828519 >>513828622
>>513826807
>>513827069
If your point is that a free market would produce more and better weapons for a lower price, you're correct, but the western military industrial complex is absolutely not a free market. It's a couple of companies which are almost entirely run by former government employees, which only deal with governments, and which do not compete with one another, instead simply "competing" for contracts which grant monopolies for this or that class of good. Those contracts are rarely granted on the merits of the product, and are instead the result of back room deals and corruption, and they will openly admit that they are granting certain contracts to prevent one or another company from going out of business, or because another company already won another contract. So this is a market where nobody spends their own money, nobody competes to make the best product, and nobody can ever go out of business, so at that point it might as well be nationalized, since at least then the graft would have less layers of corruption.
Anonymous (ID: V8bX5LYW) Poland No.513828622 >>513828725 >>513829727
>>513828519
My point was clear:
>Russia doesn't have unlimited resources
>Authoritarianism doesn't guarentee optimal use of said resources.

Stop strawmanning, you jew loving faggot.
Anonymous (ID: xnjaT+WW) Czech Republic No.513828659
>>513813084
Its expensive as fuck. Your economy created firepower that is overwhelming enemy firepower and that costs money. But its not really as much of a strategy as it is lack of it. The war is a WW1-esque situation where technological development heavily nerfed maneuver and the whole thing became a positional mudfight.

Soviet/Russian doctrine however reigns supreme in such environment because they are "fire first, maneuver second" as opposed to NATO's "Fire supports maneuver".
Anonymous (ID: ONhV++d6) Russian Federation No.513828725 >>513829727
>>513828622
I unironically suspect a chatbot behind this. Shit like this usually comes off as narrow minded and painfully lacks a broader scope
Anonymous (ID: CvMdX5pD) Faroe Islands No.513828924 >>513831313
>>513828468
Mate you country was born 20 minutes ago what the fuck are you talking about?
You weren't even a thought when Norwegian Kings hid in Kirkjubø to later reconquer Norway
>Muh history
Anonymous (ID: tlNQJPyj) United States No.513828933
>>513812153 (OP)
This does not work. The cost of personnel and equipment will eventually catch up to if you keep doing it. Also, targeting civilians is not only cruel, it is a waste of resources. It's been almost 4 years and not much has been accomplished. This strategy is really, really dumb but Putin is dumb, so no surprise there.
Anonymous (ID: tlNQJPyj) United States No.513829070
>>513814170
KEK. 4 years and you still cannot get past a nation the size of Texas. Hitler took over most of Europe within 3 years or so. So, what does the US do if Russia decides to go to war with NATO. At this pace, The Texas National Guard could win a war against Russia all by themselves.
Anonymous (ID: P30cDCbk) Norway No.513829080 >>513829313
>>513828237
Absolute trvth nuke
Anonymous (ID: tlNQJPyj) United States No.513829227 >>513829581 >>513829691 >>513832395
>>513828237
Well, if he uses nukes in Ukraine it is definitely going to lead to WW3. No question about that. If he uses nukes against NATO, Russia will be turned into radioactive, cratered wasteland. Bunkers aren't going to save you from that. No use in even being alive if there is nothing left.
Anonymous (ID: tlNQJPyj) United States No.513829313
>>513829080
"Muh nukes." Russia says that as if they are the only country with nukes KEK.
Anonymous (ID: 11gnB1g+) Canada No.513829341 >>513829555
r*ssians are dying brutally and painfully in VKRAINE while OP seethes incompetently
Anonymous (ID: tlNQJPyj) United States No.513829555
>>513829341
Russia has already lost this war. It was lost the minute that they retreated from Kyiv. Nearly 4 years in with not much to show is not a win. Exhausting personnel and resources while having the same amount of territory is not a win. Russia cannot possibly win this war. Not even with nukes. They are done.
Anonymous (ID: ONhV++d6) Russian Federation No.513829581 >>513829752
>>513829227
Don Gemini sends his regards
Anonymous (ID: CvMdX5pD) Faroe Islands No.513829691 >>513829916 >>513830232
>>513829227
I believe that about 20% of their silos are functional. We saw their testing ground fucking explode. A fully functional test site which is being run and maintained. How do you think their corrupt society will maintain their nukes? We saw it in February 2022 when they invaded. Their tanks, armoured trucks and even fuel tankers had no fuel because Ivan sold that shit for extra pay.
Same thing is 100% happening with their nuke program.
Lets just hope that their 20%=1000 nukes will get shot down before impact.
Anonymous (ID: Q0jL9ZZg) United States No.513829727 >>513831617
>>513828622
>My point was clear:
no it wasn't, that's why I had to say "if your point is".
>Russia doesn't have unlimited resources
Him claiming that Russia has unlimited was clearly hyperbole. Russia's resources are not infinite, they are simply immense.
>Authoritarianism doesn't guarentee optimal use of said resources.
I'm glad we agree about that. In fact authoritarianism guarantees sub optimal use of resources compared to a free market. My point, which you seem to have failed to grasp, is that the western MIC is also not a free market. I would go so far as to say that we have such an inefficient system over here that even the more authoritarian system of the Russians is more efficient, and that compared to us they have effectively infinite resources because of that.
>Stop strawmanning
I wasn't straw manning, I was doing the opposite of that. I clearly stated that I wasn't sure what your point actually was, and then gave the most charitable interpretation I could come up with.
>>513828725
I don't know, chat bots have gotten pretty advanced recently, but I don't think a chat bot would have brought up Rwanda and the Congo as examples.
Anonymous (ID: tlNQJPyj) United States No.513829752 >>513830025
>>513829581
Well, if Putin thought he could win a nuclear war he would have already tried. So, why hasn't he? What's he afraid of?
Anonymous (ID: xnjaT+WW) Czech Republic No.513829771 >>513829989
>>513827264
Big Cope. Total Hohol Draft was the situation Putin sought to prevent during 2013-2022.

The war is on and it will stay on for months more, Kiev is still subservient to Washington, no sensible solution on the horizon, just taking more land of the worst shithole in Europe
Americans won, they scored a hit and this whole war is just Russia rolling how much damage will it suffer.

>inb4 seethe
Yes, EU is a loser of this situation as well.
Anonymous (ID: tlNQJPyj) United States No.513829916
>>513829691
Yeah, I am not surprised. Corrupt governments like this never have good supply lines, or logistics. They would rather fill their pockets than to maintain functional military equipment.
Anonymous (ID: pN2RSxn2) United States No.513829981 >>513830162 >>513830263 >>513830330 >>513830468
>>513812153 (OP)
How much meat does oinkraine have left if this 1.7mil number is accurate? If it’s true, one would expect their defenses to start breaking in a major way.
Anonymous (ID: tlNQJPyj) United States No.513829989 >>513830093 >>513830232
>>513829771
>Kiev is still subservient to Washington
North Korean boots on the ground. Relying on weapons from Iran and supplies from China. Tell me who Russia is subservient to.
Anonymous (ID: ONhV++d6) Russian Federation No.513830025 >>513830068
>>513829752
Can you retune the prompt to get more believable textbox outcomes
Anonymous (ID: tlNQJPyj) United States No.513830068 >>513830200
>>513830025
Well, you cannot even answer a very simple question, so...
Anonymous (ID: ONhV++d6) Russian Federation No.513830093 >>513830274
>>513829989
>who Russia is subservient to.
Primal urges of lust and greed. Ukrainians aren’t white so warcrimes against them don’t count (or count at 1/3 of a normal nation)
Anonymous (ID: tlNQJPyj) United States No.513830162
>>513829981
Well, the Ukrainians did beat Hitler during WW2. Maybe there some truth to them being very efficient and well trained.
Anonymous (ID: ONhV++d6) Russian Federation No.513830200 >>513830341
>>513830068
You didn’t stop abusing poor chatbot either so we’re at a draw now
Anonymous (ID: 1Azi+1R+) No.513830207
>>513812153 (OP)
14:1, sign the contract
Anonymous (ID: xnjaT+WW) Czech Republic No.513830232 >>513831757
>>513829691
Sounds like an absolute retardation. Russians have the best Doomsday arsenal in the world, in their worldview survival of their nation rests upon it, as they lack the manpower to face either NATO or PRC.

>We saw their testing ground fucking explode. A fully functional test site which is being run and maintained.
Testing grounds explode because they...run fucking tests...on technology no one else put to work so far.

>Their tanks, armoured trucks and even fuel tankers had no fuel because
Putins retarded yesmen came to a conclusion they can pull off Georgia 2.0 and told military to abandon all logic and push ahead of supply lines.

>>513829989
I dont know if you noticed, but ZSU is relying on Chinese supplies as well. Everyone is, as China is the largest economy in the world.
Anonymous (ID: pN2RSxn2) United States No.513830263
>>513829981
Can someone who isn’t mentally retarded please answer my question?
Anonymous (ID: tlNQJPyj) United States No.513830274
>>513830093
>Russians are white
Anonymous (ID: 6vWC6iQh) United States No.513830330 >>513830509
>>513829981
The Russians are retreating from Pokrovsk.
Anonymous (ID: tlNQJPyj) United States No.513830341
>>513830200
Well, if you're too dumb to answer a simple question, then there is no point in continuing is there skiddie?
Anonymous (ID: xnjaT+WW) Czech Republic No.513830468 >>513830782
>>513829981
>1.7mil number is accurate?
Question is what the number even is. So far I have not noticed the database being public. Might as well include wounded and AWOL, then it would roughly match situation on the ground.
Anonymous (ID: tlNQJPyj) United States No.513830509
>>513830330
I'm not surprised. Russia is about to completely collapse KEK.
Anonymous (ID: pN2RSxn2) United States No.513830782
>>513830468
Neither have I and while Ukrainian defensive lines have been partially breaking in certain areas for at least a year now, they still appear to be able to man the entire front. There haven’t been any breakthroughs i would describe as major yet.
Anonymous (ID: j0JN2MW/) Uruguay No.513831313
>>513828924
based viking showing the illiterate mutt who's boss
Anonymous (ID: j0JN2MW/) Uruguay No.513831617 >>513832105
>>513829727
imagine effortposting to debunk a retard on a glowniggerkike controlled mongolian basketweaving sissy forum
Anonymous (ID: eNZ0KhyM) Chile No.513831706 >>513832141
>>513827069
>I probably pay $1/year for 1000s of Muscovite deaths
Some poles are such spiritual kikes
Anonymous (ID: PCaYEj4I) Bulgaria No.513831757 >>513832068
>>513830232
history always repeats itself. russians get involved in a war, often after trying to offer friendship (see the aftermath of the molotov-ribbentrop pact, post-ukraine euromaidan actions, chechnya 1), eat shit, then readjust tactics and end up winning. they mostly stomped through europe into a nazi capitulation. and the battle of grozny 2 wasn't them trying to keep the city like before, letting the hillnigger chechens rain rpg7 shells ontop of their tanks. instead, they turned the entire city into dust with howitzers
any question to what the russians do comes from one's own lack of historical precedent and any hate for them comes out of some uptight superiority that's the same reason berlin looks like ass and moscow's nice and clean today- unrealistic opinions of the western world's own moral superiority even in the face of myopic self-destruction. just let the russians win, let putin retire into leading the novorussian republics after finding a worthy heir and then build a new world with them, as god intended
Anonymous (ID: 1Azi+1R+) No.513832068 >>513832268
>>513831757
>Just let Putin rule
>When the retard can't even defeat Ukraine
LMAO, keep sucking vatnik LMAO
Anonymous (ID: Q0jL9ZZg) United States No.513832105 >>513832417
>>513831617
I mostly do it because it's funny to read when other people do it. I'm playing to the crowd. I don't seriously expect people like that to realize how wrong they are and change their ways.
Anonymous (ID: j0JN2MW/) Uruguay No.513832141
>>513831706
a lot of poles are actual kikes, there's a reason why in south america (in some regions) we call jews "polaquitos"
Anonymous (ID: PCaYEj4I) Bulgaria No.513832268 >>513832493
>>513832068
>memeflag
kys jew nigger, you'll never be white
the more you hate that dude, the more i love him. out of spite. god will grant him a long and uneventful life- just hope it isnt medvedev at the helm afterwars. i'm sure there'd be at least 20 icbms earmarked for your kibbutz then
Anonymous (ID: rOig1t1Y) United States No.513832395
>>513829227
You watch way too much Sean Hannity if you think he’s going to nuke Ukraine. Do you also think Iran was close to nuking us?
Anonymous (ID: j0JN2MW/) Uruguay No.513832417 >>513832503
>>513832105
you're doing god's work and keeping this place alive. when Uruguay invades the USA I'll vouch for you and your loved ones and give you a safe passage permit and some gold coins.
Anonymous (ID: 1Azi+1R+) No.513832493 >>513832558 >>513832768
>>513832268
Holy cope vatnik LMAO
Anonymous (ID: 9sXSyAan) No.513832502
It seems logical that EU is fucked because China has strategic interest in protecting Russia and having it as vassal while nobody gives a fuck about EU
Anonymous (ID: j0JN2MW/) Uruguay No.513832503
>>513832417
I'll separate these for you.
Anonymous (ID: rOig1t1Y) United States No.513832558 >>513832685
>>513832493
Most people know you’re a Jew dude. Saving these videos just confirms it for the ones that may have thought otherwise
Anonymous (ID: 1Azi+1R+) No.513832685
>>513832558
Check how many russians live in Israel, you stupid retard
Anonymous (ID: PCaYEj4I) Bulgaria No.513832768 >>513833919
>>513832493
isnt even denying it lmfao.
how's the draft dodging going, moshe?
heard they'll start drafting you useless deskrider kikes into operation ((iron fist)) soon, i don't think you'll run faster than the draft notice. damn, would be a shame if you got fucked like last october, huh? maybe they'll announce your useless ass on the newspapers too
Anonymous (ID: Vb2casvS) Canada No.513833416
>>513826721
Yes, the side advancing collects more dead as it overtakes contested land. Would you ever expect the defender to be running out into the fucking battlefield to snatch up all the dead invaders?
Anonymous (ID: Vb2casvS) Canada No.513833766
>>513827069
>The initial offensive was an impressive
Not at all. It was a completely bungled combined arms fuck up that saw Russia's entire modernized and experienced professional army decimated, their entire ability to engage in airborne infantry ops destroyed, the loss of an example of almost every modern ECM and Command/Control system developed since the end of the cold war into western hands.
Anonymous (ID: 1Azi+1R+) No.513833919
>>513832768
You lost the war, go sign the contract LMAO