Thread 513817547

whenever jewkrainians say that russia is so weak it can't win against a much smaller country I tell them let's do an experiment and send the same amount of military and financial aid to Russia while freezing any external support for Ukraine and see how cocky they still are

>>513817547 (OP)
Money goes a long way, but it isn't always the key to success. The US has embargoed the shit out of Cuba and they still flip us off.

>>513817547 (OP)
Real Ukrainians aren't laughing; most of the UA flags you see on /pol/ are VPNs or glowniggers stationed in Kiev.

>>513817547 (OP)
desu this is a 'shockingly' cheap price for humiliating the russians on the world stage for years and setting them behind by a decade+

>>513817547 (OP)
But that's kinda the point tho: Russia acts in a way that is completely selfish and zero-sum (i.e. like niggers).
That's WHY you don't have rich or powerful allies to lend you a hand.

>>513818436
That would work if the west was still the main economic power in the world and the home of new technologies. Perhaps sadly but all the sanctions instead of settling russia back made it in fact the first one to abandon the sinking ship.

>>513818501
The problem is the cockiness. At least say "only thanks to America or specifically the American and EU taxpayers Ukraine still exists. Without them Ukraine would be a Russian vassal state by now. We wholeheartedly thank you Americans and EU citizens for your crucial support in these trying times. We will repay you back one day we promise."

>>513817547 (OP)
>freezing any external support
Russia is helped by China, North Korea, Iran. They even launched the invasion through their proxy Belarus

>>513817547 (OP)
They're both weak

>>513817547 (OP)
no need to send anything to russia, ukrainian weapon storage lasts 1-2 month until the next supply by NATO. Plus all the payments to soldiers and so on, compensation to the families, if such thing even exists there. US intelligence and satellites, planning of the operation and so on. There is no such thing as Ukrainian army, only soldiers managed and supplied by US and NATO. Without America there would be no war at all.

>>513817547 (OP)
>The most Aids.

>>513817547 (OP)
>noooooo you can't have allies in a war. That's not fair.

Also, the EU has overtaken the USA in both weapons and money delivered.

>>513817547 (OP)
Let's stop sending euromutts money

How about we stop Iranian and north Korean ammunition supplies to Russia?

>>513819566
that is very funny that Russia is winning having north Korea and Belarus as allies and Ukraine is loosing with literally US, Britaine, France Germany, Canada, Scandinavians etc. not only on its side but actually directly being involved in daily operations

>>513818436
How does humiliating Russia and setting it back a decade help me?

>>513817547 (OP)
Just as important are the satellites. Ukraine's C4ISTAR benefits hugely from them.

>>513819856
>Russia is winning
Both countries are losing though. This is becoming a Chines proxy war.

>>513818436
What purpose does it serve to "humiliate the Russians", other than to irreversibly push the world's most resource-rich country to become a Chinese satellite state, and to cause chemicals and energy-intensive industry to migrate from Europe to China?

>>513819796
I believe Russia pays for the supplies and services they receive (with their own money)

>>513820482
>I believe
You have a lot of wrong believes. They are exchanging technology not money though.

>>513820582
I wrote "believe" because I have not personally seen the receipts so I can't know for sure

Trade with Iran and North Korea goes both ways, of course. It's not just Russia buying, it is also selling. For example, Russia provides launch services for Iranian satellites. Russia probably sells oil and other needed goods to North Korea. They might be selling technology on top of this.

>>513817547 (OP)
Now show us how much of the US military aid was paid by the EU.

>>513818958
Nah, most of the credit goes to Ukrainians fighting like motherfuckers.

Russia isn't even able to GET to the hard part of occupation.