Thread 513856419

Following the Trump–Putin meeting in Alaska (Aug 15, 2025) and the Washington talks (Aug 24, 2025), Rome is considered a plausible venue for the next stage of negotiations aimed at achieving peace in Ukraine. The European role is limited to Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, as Moscow refuses to engage with other EU leaders it considers “warmongers”
>Framework
Palazzo del Quirinale would host official meetings, La Nuvola for journalists. Putin at Villa Madama, Trump at the U.S. Embassy (Palazzo Margherita), Zelensky and Meloni in secure government facilities. The objective is to build on prior discussions to define a framework for peace, including humanitarian measures and follow-up mechanisms
>Air Corridors
NATO is excluded. Italy coordinated by U.S. and Russia to manage security and airspace. Special corridors for VIP flights escorted by Italian Eurofighter Typhoons, hand-offs coordinated with U.S. and Russian commands. Italy has over 90 Typhoons and 4 KC-767A tankers
>Context
Putin’s initial skepticism toward Meloni was eased by the recent arrest of a suspect linked to the Nord Stream attack, seen as a sign of Italy’s impartiality. Trump supports Rome as a venue; Zelensky’s presence is essential but carefully controlled
>Ground
Motorcades follow established Italian VIP protocols using available government and security vehicles. Italy has extensive experience ensuring heads of state safety through tested logistics and coordination
>Diplomatic
Rome offers a neutral European venue, with Meloni as the sole EU representative. By excluding NATO while leveraging U.S.–Russia support, Italy provides a politically acceptable environment for direct peace negotiations
>Temporary ICC suspension is a key condition enabling participation

There will be no peace.

>>513856556
Unless we go to war against demons
Si vis pacem para bellum

>>513856419 (OP)
President Donald Trump has proposed Rome as the venue for a summit with Vladimir Putin, signaling that a temporary suspension of ICC proceedings is feasible, enabling Putin’s participation. Putin initially preferred Alaska due to Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni’s pro-Ukraine stance, but the Trump proposal highlights Italy’s role as a neutral mediator. Meloni’s consistent opposition to deploying Italian troops in Ukraine further eases tensions

>>513856419 (OP)
French President Macron desperately pushes for Geneva, his proposal is a last-ditch attempt to prevent Italy from gaining prestige, highlighting that a Rome summit would elevate Meloni as a major international diplomatic figure

>>513856556
>There will be no peace.

>>513856419 (OP)
Against Rome, Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko has expressed concerns about preserving Orthodox traditions and the influence of the Church in society, emphasizing that any international agreements or negotiations should respect the cultural and religious values of Orthodox communities

>>513856419 (OP)
Meanwhile, Zelesnky’s “to the last ukranian” policy continues, with young ukranian facing intense pressure and coercion to comply with state demands. Many are trapped in a van that leaves little hopes for choice or dissent, highlighting the human cost of authoritarian control

>>513856419 (OP)
wasn't it in october as you said?

>>513858233
never talked about it before things getting serious

>>513858403
i mean this, its quite obvious its your post

>>513856419 (OP)
Why offering a venue for this high risk summit ? 'it*ly' is just looking for troubles. Nothing to gain and everything to lose. But hey, being dysfunctional and stupidly self-defeating is the hallmark of this judeomasonic 1859 'it*ly', so nothing surprising really.

>>513856419 (OP)
I don't think any country related to the International Criminal Court would be an option, Russia could want to avoid Turkey, Morocco and Israel, USA shouldn't want China or Belarus, Hungary could be an option but you have to fly over Poland, Ukraine or Romania, it will be most likely Kazakhstan or some country from that region.

>>513856419 (OP)
A ROCK WILL STAND ON SEVEN HILLS

Will there be pasta ragu and pizza served at the peace summit buffet?

>>513858739
Oh shit. What would the rock be though in this context?

>peace talks
>its just a way for trump and putin to spent millions of tax dollars going to parties and drinking/eating on taxpayer money

good litlle pay piggies..

>>513856889
>highlighting that a Rome summit would elevate Meloni as a major international diplomatic figure
When something happens to Putin the diplomatic prestige will turn into a mushroom cloud on Aviano or Ghedi. Lombards must die en masse for that demented mexican flag no matter what happens.

>>513858824
>what Rock
a black one
Merz

>>513858799
The organization and catering, including all meals, will be handled by each delegation’s national staff to ensure full security and proper protocol

what retard thinks rome is plausible? why would the russians show up to the capital of a hostile country? shitaly signed the rome statute to enforce ICC warrants and there's one for putin they'd be obliged to enforce

>>513858710
>I don't think any country related to the International Criminal Court would be an option, Russia could want to avoid Turkey, Morocco and Israel, USA shouldn't want China or Belarus, Hungary could be an option but you have to fly over Poland, Ukraine or Romania, it will be most likely Kazakhstan or some country from that region
Rome remains a highly viable option despite these concerns. Its status as a neutral European venue, combined with Italy’s ability to coordinate directly with both the U.S. and Russia, ensures secure air corridors and high-level guarantees. The ICC issue can be temporarily managed to allow participation, and Italy’s experience hosting major summits provides tested logistics and protocols. Unlike more remote or politically constrained locations, Rome offers immediate infrastructure, accommodations, and diplomatic visibility, making it the optimal choice for advancing direct peace negotiations. Daddy Trump dont speak for no reason

>>513858930
>When something happens to Putin the diplomatic prestige will turn into a mushroom cloud on Aviano or Ghedi. Lombards must die en masse for that demented mexican flag no matter what happens.
The success and safety of the summit depend on the careful coordination of all organizers, including Russia, the U.S., and Italy. Every measure, from secure air corridors to on-site logistics and emergency protocols, will be designed to protect all participants and ensure that the diplomatic process proceeds smoothly. Rome’s experience in hosting high-level events makes it fully capable of providing a safe and neutral environment for constructive negotiations. Any failure would reflect poorly on all parties involved, while only certain actors, such as Zelensky and EU warmongering leaders with hawkish positions, might gain from a breakdown in talks

>>513859063
>what retard thinks rome is plausible?
trump
https://www.google.it/search?q=trump+rome+putin

>>513859063
in any case this is all irrelevant. there will be no peace negotiations. this war ends only with full accession to russian demands. zelenskike, however, cannot accede to even a single russian demand or he'll be killed within 24 hours by elements of the various armed and security forces within the ukraine, most likely by kosher boneheads from azog, kraken, aidar, etc. this means that so long as he is in power the war will go on. i am 100% certain that the war will go on until a total military collapse by ukraine, followed by unconditional surrender. terms will be enforced by russia militarily

>>513859298
that retard has only just understood that an unconditional ceasefire isn't going to happen. this is just another shitbrained idea of his that won't happen

>>513856419 (OP)
Rome is a nigger infested shithole.
Meloni is a cheap whore that grifted her own voters.
Peace was never an option.

>>513859462
Rome is a fully plausible venue because it allows the summit to accommodate Putin’s requirements, which Trump has already communicated to Zelensky as acceptable steps toward peace. Refusing to engage in a globally recognized venue like Rome would position Zelensky as the true obstacle to peace in the eyes of the international community. In such a scenario, the failure of the summit would reflect on all parties present in Rome, while Zelensky would risk being seen as a leader prioritizing personal power over his country, undermining his international image and portraying him as a figure willing to let the war continue for his own ambition

>>513859525
Rome is plausible precisely because Trump proposed it, signaling that the necessary condition can be arranged to allow Putin’s participation. The objective is not an unconditional ceasefire, but a concrete path toward peace, giving all parties a platform to engage constructively and achieve a lasting resolution without further escalation

>>513859703
Personal attacks and offensive language do not change the strategic feasibility of Rome as a meeting place

>>513859975
>attacks
It's the truth.
Nobody wants to set foot in a nigger infested shithole.
Meloni is a cheap whore and she grifted you by bringing in more niggers.
Putin refused Ukrainian terms. Zelensky refused Russian terms. There won't be any peace unless Trump puts a leash on Zelensky and that will never happen because he's a Deep State puppet.
Nobody except Trump wants peace and he's only interested in peace so he'll have a chance at getting that Nobel Piss Prize.
Total Hohol Death will continue until further notice.

>>513860303
>romanian flag
yo, check this out. any other state as host? romania? bulgaria as host? nah, senpai, we all know that vibe is cursed since ’94, ain’t gonna fly. meloni running the show in rome? Now that’s power moves. watching von der leyen and the other EU warmongers sweat and scramble? straight up makes me grin like a boss. turkey, UAE, belarus as alternatives? That’s a straight-up downgrade for yt ppl, and geneva or wwitzerland? globalist central, ain’t about that life. finally, we get to shut down the hype around unelected big shots like von der leyen, and let maloney show how it’s really done. rome is the move, no cap bro

>>513859935
you misunderstand me mario. I know that an unconditional ceasefire is not the object. my remark was to highlight that trump doesn't understand what's happening or how to stop it, or what the russians really want. none of the american ideas have had legs and this one won't either. there will be no negotiations, only unconditional surrender

>>513860492
>Total Hohol Death will continue until further notice.
English is too complicated for niggers?

>>513856419 (OP)
imagine this, rome hosting the summit, cameras on trump 24/7, all eyes on him while the world watches. the city’s prestige just pumps up his media spotlight, makes him look like he’s running the show on a global stage, maybe even nudging him for some kind of nobel-type recognition. meloni’s there holding it down, making sure the logistics and protocols run smooth, keeping it all legit, but the focus? trump front and center, soaking up the fame with rome as the perfect backdrop
>MAGA strike again

>>513860492
>wwitzerland
>memeflag
>qwerty keyboard with w near to s
brit nigger typoo

>>513859001
>Merz
that snownigger is only seeking taxpayer moneys as his master require

>>513858233
yeah there was a retarded-tier thread about it some time ago

>>513861036
yes
>>513858575
quiet unbelievable at the time

>>513858846
>its just a way for trump and putin to spent millions of tax dollars going to parties and drinking/eating on taxpayer money
nah, it’s not about blowing money on fancy meals or parties. most of the budget would go to air security, escorts, and keeping every flight and motorcade safe. anything else would be way too risky when you’re dealing with heads of state during war. at most, italy might drop a few million just to make its damn planes fly and spray colored clouds for show

>>513858575
source? link to the archive? you filthy reddit-tier animal

>>513856419 (OP)
have a bump for the lunch time here in summy italy

>>513856419 (OP)
>pic
ukraine’s gonna go full mission impossible and wreck the colosseum just to hit putin. bro, that’s not how diplomacy works, and rome ain’t some video game map. sit down and chill before you start fantasizing about historic landmarks turning into rubble

>>513856419 (OP)
trump pulls off a rome summit like a pro, cameras flashing, all eyes glued on him
>every move he makes is media gold, boosting his global image and making him look like the guy actually steering the peace talks
rome’s prestige just amplifies the spotlight, the city itself a backdrop that screams power and credibility
>meloni’s running logistics, keeping it smooth, but trump’s the one soaking up the fame, playing it like a boss on the world stage
it seems pretty losing for italy to me

>>513856419 (OP)
What peace? Jewlensky just said today that Ukraine will not cede any territories and there will be no negotiations about that.

So negotiations are over, thank mister Z. The war will continue up until the last hohol (and the European if you're stupid enough).

>>513856419 (OP)
You didn't had to piss our flag onto the sky but thanks for the gesture pasta bros

>>513862331
there’s a van waiting for the volunteer that lives in each of us

>>513862192
>if you're stupid enough
the values of the talmud doesnt agrees with you

>>513856419 (OP)
the only guarantees of security ukraine will ever receive are simply lowering its tone when it speaks to Russia,
and stopping the nigger pitbull behavior its perpetrating on behalf of london
it will ONLY be the unilateral and unconditional surrender of the ukraine
period
the end
there isnt going to be some nato patrolled "demilitarized zone" on the Russian border

>it's called "losing a war to Russia", a common way for european empires to end

>>513862492
>it will ONLY be the unilateral and unconditional surrender of the ukraine
if i end up paying even one euro less on my bills, that works for me

Hope not
That whore had destroyed Berlusconi foreign policy legacy and our longstanding friendship with Russia and Putin
Now she crawls back

>>513863515
she had to comply eu's blackmails

>>513856419 (OP)
what kind of pasta will you serve them?

>>513863858
Not at all
She changed sides because she saw that there were money on the table for the Ukraine reconstruction
She also did a 180 on migration and faggots, EU and NATO
All because of money

>>513863060
>if i end up paying even one euro less on my bills, that works for me

lmao london sent continental europe to hell so it could fail its impotent attempt to "balkanize Russia"

>>513856419 (OP)
Putin isn't a retard.
Western leaders pretending he is, is the main reason why they are losing the war.

>>513856419 (OP)
>Rome offers a neutral European venue
Lmao.
I mean, maybe — if it were hosted by the people of Rome and not by their government — but the next part this very sentence mentions Meloni. The wench stinks.

>>513857837
Lukashenko somehow didn't protest against Istanbul at any point in the past. I would've understood if he were to refer to it as Constantinople but seeing how he hasn't, this is rather hypocritical of him.

>>513859118
>The ICC issue can be temporarily managed to allow participation
The fact that laws can be temporarily suspended for one person speaks volumes about them and the system that pretends to follow them.

>>513864840
>The fact that laws can be temporarily suspended for one person speaks volumes about them and the system that pretends to follow them.
yesss

>>513864607
>Putin isn't a retard.
and yesss

>>513856419 (OP)
>time to vote for the perfect location for the peace summit
N = nice
I = istanbul
G = geneva
G = glasgow
E = edinburgh
R = rome
>make your choice /pol/

>>513864840
FYI, the 15th and the 24th fall on a Saturday in 2025, thus meaning that the 17th of August and the 27th of August should be considered as possible days of the meeting.