Thread 513875232

Reproduction is evil.
You force an unconsenting sentient being into an existence full of pain and suffering. Into a meaningless word full of cruelty and pain.
Benatar in his book suggests not banning reproduction because he's still not 100% sure he is right, and that it might be politically infeasible.
How would you realistically go about enforcing antinatalism politically?
Obviously you'd want to give everyone easy access to reproductive care, abortions etc. But how do you stop people who still want to reproduce?

>>513875232 (OP)
OP claims life is cruel and not worth it, yet every day of his life he chooses to exist, he could end it at anytime but either doesnt believe what he is saying or is an infantile coward too pussy to kill himself. Regardless hes not anyone you should trust because his ideas are inherently hypocritical, if life truly was actual suffering and not his spoiled bed rott loser fake suffering then he would end it, yet he doesnt instead he wants to convince others to end the world for him like some learned helplessness fag

>>513875939
Doesnt follow. Also ad hominem.

>>513875232 (OP)
If you dont think having parents is worth existing then why not just die, if you dont think friends are worth it then just die, if above all else you dont think suffering is worth it so you can experience live and those friends and family then just end it bro, OR you create your own meaning and meaningfull life instead of being a nihilist faggot

>>513876051
Nice deflection, so which one is it hypocrite or coward

>>513875232 (OP)
I read this book and refuted it a few years ago during the lockdowns. I've now married a white wife and have a white son on the way.
Anti-natalism lost. The blackpill lost. Evil lost.

>>513876051
Please do tell me how hard live is in eastern europe lmfao

>>513876065
Ever since the covid hoax I stopped interacting with the goyim cattle. I just look through them and pretend they don't exist. I don't even greet them or acknowledge their presence. I'm not staring either, I'm just looking straight through them as if they weren't there.
My life has significantly improved. I am at peace.

>>513876233
I do this too altho its probably just autistic deassociation

>>513875232 (OP)
>existence
this is semantic deceit
we are created
existence is for persons corporations trusts etc etc etc

>>513875232 (OP)
>You force an unconsenting sentient being
A being that does not in reality consent to existence dies.
Antinatalists are just crying for attention.

>>513876412
This. If your son is born and bro is like fuck this shit he can literally just kill himself if he enjoys it he wont just like OP wont because deep down he knows its still worth it to exist to be

>>513876188
Cool, what's the refutation?
>>513876196
Life is hard everywhere.

>>513875232 (OP)
you have the power to end it if you wan nihilist

Life is an incredible gift from God, you make of it what you will. Suffering is created by mankind.

>>513875232 (OP)
fag
captcha: K4NT

>>513876051
It does though. Iife is a burden end it

>>513875939
smart take
>>513876051
classic accountability dodging with arrogant pseudo psychological mumbo jumbo rather then face the simple truth that you are wrong.

>>513875232 (OP)
Meh, too many hurdles to jump through to have kids. Cant even find a decent woman anymore. Too many problems.

>>513876051
It does follow though. If life is such an unbearable burden to (You) then end it.

>>513876983
How do you suggest I end it?

>>513876051
Then correct the error and neck yourself

>>513877095
Murder as many jews as possible until zogbots are forced to kill you. Murder shitskins if no jews are available.

>>513875232 (OP)
Wow he didn't take long. Check the wikipedia of his dad Salomon Benatar
Every single time

Always funny to see the ultimate form of bootlicking when people get upset at anti-natalists.
God is a retarded cunt at best.
Unless you can guarantee that you soul dies with your body suicide is a noob trap that will have you sent back as crippled shitskin or to a pair of white faggots with itchy cocks.

Its not evil to reproduce as such. What is evil is putting billions of people into the world that should have never existed. Including me.
One of the most morbid things about todays society is how eugenics is more looked down upon than dysgenics.

>>513875232 (OP)
the only goal of life is to reproduce

>>513875232 (OP)
fuck off kike

>>513875232 (OP)
Reproduction is natural
Being an anti life faggot like you is evil

>>513875939
>>513875232 (OP)
Op you're just witnessing life Jews promote, find life outside of it and see how different and good it is

>>513875232 (OP)
The world and life aren't meaningless. No one ever taught you how to find meaning cus no one ever taught them.

>>513876559
>Cool, what's the refutation?
My son.

>>513875232 (OP)
DAVID IS A HACK

>>513875232 (OP)
OP and Benatar go kill themselves or kill each other if their own existence appears so meaningless to them.
I keep celebrating life with Nietzsche.

> You force an unconsenting sentient being into an existence full of pain and suffering.
It’s up to them to view life as pain and suffering
While they are with me and are my children, they have and never will experience more bad than they have good
Their lives have been easier than mine
Their lives will be easier than mine
They will be knowledged and learned on everything and anything that is necessary

Stupid kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiike

>>513875232 (OP)
Also miscarriages are a thing. If my children didn't want to be born, they would've shut the whole thing down. A child DOES in fact consent to be born if it doesn't initiate a miscarriage. Every child is capable of killing itself in the womb.

>>513878323
Children in the womb are incapable of conceptualizing the possibility and making an informed decision.

>>513877627
That's only the biological purpose of the individual. Ask yourself: what is the intellectual purpose of my life? If you have an intellect above the level of an animal.

It would be better if I were never born. This world is a shithole. There is no god. There is only pain and meaningless suffering.
And you aren't even given the possibility to leave . Euthanasia is banned in all but the most severe cases and if you express wanting to die you will be locked up in a mental hospital.

>>513875232 (OP)
The new being can exit existence whenever he wants if he doesn't like it
If you haven't kys-ed yet it means you like existing more than not existing, and thus no one cares about your attempts at looking edgy.

>>513878625
>And you aren't even given the possibility to leave . Euthanasia is banned


>Nooooo!!! Why won't someone else just kill me in my stead reeeeeeeee!!!
You serious, you bitch ass nigga?
Just be honest and admit you fear death

>>513876188
>have a white son on the way
what's it like knowing your son will inhabit a world full of mutts, niggers, faggots, trannies, spics, and mongrels?

what's it like knowing he will have to "yes sir, no sir" them at work?

what's it like knowing he will have to choose from a bevy of skanked out STD riddled basketball shaped women who got passed around a bunch of niggers?

what's it like knowing your grandchildren will be mutted out after your future daughter gets pumped full of nigger cum?

america, FUCK YEAH!

>>513878625
Follow the dhamma and the Buddha and you'll never have to come back. Otherwise, you're here forever.

>>513877532
what if you lived in a late bronze age ethnostate with running water, 10 acres, a 1,000 sqft home, a wife who works her share, an international trade and travel network, and a government you can participate in without election? would that be better? there aren't any nigger slaves yet because the kikes haven't risen up and started all that shit yet.

must've been heaven.

>>513878450
“Informed” is an inherently subjective criteria and not a serious, coherent philosophical position

>>513875232 (OP)
At the end of the day you have to try. You are born because others decided that. But you still have a right to continue on.
>>513875939
This is misdirection. OP is wrong but you're not giving a proper explanation.

>>513878882
He is a pathetic whiny coward indulging in self-pity. I'm shuddering with disgust.

>>513879588
Self pity is correct and appropriate feeling for a bad predicament.