How do you respond to people citing this study? Hard mode: only facts and data

>Our analyses of site frequency spectra indicate that these populations derive 2 to 19% of their genetic ancestry from an archaic population that diverged before the split of Neanderthals and modern humans.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aax5097
https://web.archive.org/web/20250129105209/https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aax5097

>>513891870
What does this have to do with anything and how does it debunk the study

>>513891703 (OP)
>this study
There is no study. What is presented without evidence is dismissed without evidence.

>>513891703 (OP)
That claim is literally known as Lewontin's FALLACY, because it comes from the early-1970's, before the era of genomic sequencing. It's completely wrong. In the modern era, we know that ethnic groups form distinct genetic clusters.

>>513891703 (OP)
There is no study

>>513891703 (OP)
Black girl would unironically give you more loyalty

>>513891703 (OP)

>>513891703 (OP)
Africa

>>513891983
What study? You didn't link or cite anything, nigger. Africans aren't human.

>>513891703 (OP)
we all know its rich v poor but the rich have the money to change my hate at them to my hate at your skin color

Look up Lewontin's Fallacy. From Race: The Realities of Human Differences by Vincent Sarich and Frank Miele.

>>513891983
Niggers share 15% of their DNA with an archaic hominid species.
inb4
>LOEEL LIKE YT AND NEANDERTHALL U MUFUGGIN BIX NOOD
No, jeet. Neanderthals are not archaic hominids. They are closely related to modern humans.

>>513891703 (OP)
Fuck off and go waste someone else's time.

>>513892051
I kept trying to get Copilot to admit that Swedes and Abbos are different species by comparing them to chimps/bonobos and wolves/coyotes, but it wouldn't budge. Kept saying that they're the same species because their common ancestor wasn't far back enough in time. It didn't consider 60k years of no breeding and 10k miles separate enough. I'll try again with this fixation index thing.

>>513891703 (OP)
Lewontin's fallacy, you're a subhuman dumbass nigger
>In popular articles that play down the genetical differences among human populations, it is often stated that about 85% of the total genetical variation is due to individual differences within populations and only 15% to differences between populations or ethnic groups. It has therefore been proposed that the division of Homo sapiens into these groups is not justified by the genetic data. This conclusion, due to R.C. Lewontin in 1972, is unwarranted because the argument ignores the fact that most of the information that distinguishes populations is hidden in the correlation structure of the data and not simply in the variation of the individual factors. The underlying logic, which was discussed in the early years of the last century, is here discussed using a simple genetical example. BioEssays 25:798–801, 2003. © 2003 Wiley Periodicals, Inc.

>>513891703 (OP)
Imagine you buy a huge bag of skittles of hundreds of different colours. Separate them into two bags so that 99 % of warm colours are in one bag and 99 % of the cold colours in the other. Both bags will still have skittles of all colours, i.e., literally 100 % of the variability is within the bags and 0 % between. Now, pick 10 random skittles from one bag, and 10 from the other. These are the genomes of two different people. Will they be the same? Can you say which set came from the bag with warm colours and which one from the bag with cold colours?

>>513891703 (OP)

>>513892782
For me, it’s Heidi’s white kid. Her black kids are disgusting.

>>513892051
lmao
saved

"How often is a pair of individuals from one population genetically more dissimilar than two individuals chosen from two different populations?" The answer depends on the number of polymorphisms used to define that dissimilarity, and the populations being compared. When they analysed three geographically distinct populations (European, African, and East Asian) and measured genetic similarity over many thousands of loci, the answer to their question was "never"


Word games come into play here. Use the word population and genetic clusters and no one disagrees. If you do a Ctrl-F/Replace all of Population with Race, suddenly it's wrong...but it's not. Word games.

Race is real.

>>513891703 (OP)
I want some dirty nigger pussy that's how i respond.

>>513893089
>that’s a woman

I thought woman got by with sex appeal. Or is it just white women who evolved to be whores?

More interesting stuff from 'Race'.

>>513893887
I would race my lips to match her labia lips

>>513891703 (OP)
That's a nigger on the left

>>513892318
Ask Chat GPT or Grok or any other AI anything about race and the first thing it will cite is this study to point out race is deboonked

>>513892051
So whites and blacks are very similar? 0.1 is far from 1. Not sure what your pointis

>>513893072
tl;dr?
You should be able to say this stuff with your own words

>>513893200
>another one just copy-pasting word salad he can't express in his own words and arguments

>>513893089
>hardly any good reply yet so /pol/ should cleary hone its race realism arguments
>waste of time
You are either Jewish or braindead

>>513892309
>>513893068
>>513892547
If you don't know what I'm referring to you shouldn't be here, zoomer retards

>>513891703 (OP)
>if there's more differences within group mixing races is bad because diversity lessens
>if there's more differences outside group they're not even same species

>>513893731
Nice wig. Enjoy the smell of mildew and dead skin wafting from her scalp.

>>513893072
That is staggeringly retarded. Please never post that image ever again. Assuming the numbers he starts with are even correct, the 85 % of variability applies to either set of chromosomes the child has, and therefore it still applies to the child's genome as a whole. 0.85 * x + 0.85 * y = 0.85 (x + y).

>>513891703 (OP)
>Hard mode: only facts and data

>>513894722
I would scalp that nigger bitch first thing in the morning while holding the palm of my hand on and off and singing like an apache helicopter while standing with both my feet on her fat nigger ass and pounding that horsepussy.
Better bald than told.

>>513891703 (OP)
You call them retards and sic rabid niggers on them.

>>513891703 (OP)
This is the Lewontin fallacy, so named by Edwards:

"Edwards argued that while Lewontin's statements on variability are correct when examining the frequency of different alleles (variants of a particular gene) at an individual locus (the location of a particular gene) between individuals, it is nonetheless possible to classify individuals into different racial groups with an accuracy that approaches 100 percent when one takes into account the frequency of the alleles at several loci at the same time."

Basically, what Lewontin is doing is saying that if you take into account a single characteristic, such as nose size, that characteristic varies more within the same group than between groups. What Edwards is saying is that if you group these characteristics together, you can differentiate the groups.

I asked Grok about this and what he says is that the usefulness of what Lewontin said is "social" but that Edwards' position is the one that has the scientific utility.

>>513893731
Based and same

>>513895279
For example, if I tell you someone has black eyes, you can't tell me what race they are. If I tell you they have black eyes and are tall, the possibilities are reduced. If I tell you they have black eyes, are tall, and have very, very curly hair, you could already say they are African.

>>513893071
The rich have been importing incompatible races to make it impossible for white people to go after the rich. You aren't going to have a unified front with browns. Can't happen.

>>513895279
Then there's another argument: the selection of individuals to analyze.

To conduct the study, you must first select representative individuals from that group. A very difficult task for someone who claims such groups don't exist.

If I'm going to tell you I'm going to select Iberians for the study, I first have to determine that the Spaniards I'm going to choose are representative of the group. Otherwise, it doesn't make sense. Perhaps I consider a Spaniard of Russian or Moroccan descent to be Iberian, and the study goes wrong.

Imagine a Venn diagram with big circles.
Each circle is a race, and the outer edges overlap in those border groups who have mixed over generations, who could be potentially categorised as either.
There is a huge variation from from point a to point b inside each circle.
One big circle labels all of them as human.

This is what the statement means. The way that race deniers use it makes no sense, as it's implying a Slav and a Mediterranean are so different their race is meaningless, yet they are both simultaneously indistinguishable from a chink.

>>513891703 (OP)
This statement holds for dogs and wolves too, or even felines - they all have more variation within their groups than between them

>>513893200
>>513893072
>>513892318
>richard charles lewontin
>marxist
>full blooded ashkenazi kike
No big surprise.

>>513893731
>>513894007
>>513895641
>kike jews see ugly negress and immediately have to "correct the record"
Reminder they do this all day for a decade now and Kike jannes are behind it

>>513895279
>What Edwards is saying is that if you group these characteristics together, you can differentiate the groups.
Doesn't sound like that deboonks Lewontin

>>513895641
>areolae slip on right girl
Hnnnng, need choccy milk straight from the source!

>>513896555
Good, stick to ugly mutt women and leave superior white women alone

>>513896538
Because what Lewontin says is (supposedly) true, if the individuals chosen are representative of the racial groups.

It's supposedly true, but it's useless. It's like telling you that wheel size varies more between types of vehicles than between vehicles of the same type, so there's no difference between a car or a truck.

(((Christ))) is King! of nigger loving faggots

>>513896753
>It's like telling you that wheel size varies more >between types of vehicles than between vehicles of the same type, so there's no difference between a car or a truck.

corrected: It's like telling you that wheel size varies more between types of vehicles of the same type than between vehicles of different type, so there's no difference between a car or a truck.

>>513891703 (OP)
In 1972, world-famous biologist Richard Lewontin published an analysis of human classification. Using alleles for 17 genes related to blood type (a state of the art technique at the time), he found that 85.4% of variability existed within racial populations, 8.3% of variation between groups within racial groups, and 6.3% of variation was between racial groups (Lewontin, 1972, pp. 396-397). Because so much of the variation was at the individual level, Lewontin concluded that,

Human racial classification is of no social value and is positively destructive of social and human relations. Since such racial classification is now seen to be of virtually no genetic or taxonomic significance either, no justification can be offered for its continuance

Lewontin (1972, p. 397)
Lewontin’s logic is superficially persuasive, and often people use it to argue against the scientific use of racial group classifications or the study of racial differences (e.g., Kaplan, 2015; Sternberg et al., 2005). I even remember reading it in my introductory psychology textbook two decades ago.

Over the years, people have criticized Lewontin’s (1972) logic. Most damaging is the fact that Lewontin did not take into account the correlations among alleles; taking this into consideration when calculating between-group differences. For this reason, Edwards (2003) calls the argument “Lewontin’s fallacy,”.

The Statistical Interpretation
In statistical terms, Lewontin (1972) calculated an effect size, and the 6.3% of variation between racial groups is equivalent to an eta-squared effect size of .063. Likewise, the 8.3% of variation between groups within a racial group is equivalent to an eta-squared value .083. The eta-squared effect size is a measure of the total sample variance that can be explained by average group differences in the independent variable

Or just believe your lying eyes
https://russellwarne.com/2022/08/22/the-non-sequitur-of-lewontins-fallacy/

>>513895641
HOLY SHIT they even still post the exact same Floyd Mayweather looking bitch for 10 years now. Kikes really can't find another "attractive" black woman to spam 4chan with kek

>>513896747
Vanilla milk is fine too.

>>513891703 (OP)
yet even niggers would go for the white girl in the photo and not that nigger creature

>>513891703 (OP)
The "black crime" statistic everybody always cites as proof of black unintelligence is racially biased.

Whites are constantly violating employment laws and commerce laws. But for *those* crimes, the entire company is punished. Not the individual white people who hire illegal immigrants or sell cars with known faulty brake mechanisms. Meanwhile a black guy could get charged for carrying a baggie of weed.

Whites aren't smarter or better. The laws insulate them from punishment for their laziness and greed.

/pol/ really sucks at race realism these days. I remember making this thread years ago and people at least posted that one picture that's a great visual explanation for how Lewontin is wrong

>>513896911
>The Statistical Interpretation
>In statistical terms, Lewontin (1972) calculated an effect size, and the 6.3% of variation between racial groups is equivalent to an eta-squared effect size of .063. Likewise, the 8.3% of variation between groups within a racial group is equivalent to an eta-squared value .083. The eta-squared effect size is a measure of the total sample variance that can be explained by average group differences in the independent variable
Please try turning this into an actual argument with your own words

>>513897263
Stfu you larping nufaggot, kys along with your shitty thread

>>513891703 (OP)
>There are more differences within than between groups
That has got to be the most retarded fucking thing I've ever read. How could you possibly distinguish the groups in the first place if that was the case.

>>513897263
>/pol/ really sucks at race realism these days. I remember making this thread years ago and people at least posted that one picture that's a great visual explanation for how Lewontin is wrong
Just cite how many illnesses mixed race children get, and how it is extremely difficult for them to find an organ donor if needed.
/thread

>>513891703 (OP)
literally all you have to do is look at these two and see the one on the left looks like a gorilla

>>513897358
I would assume because they look different? The leftist argument is that race is only skin deep or different eyes

Do better

>>513897428
Really? How many?

>>513896343
Kikes spam nigger dicks not nigger pussy dumbass

>>513894007
Good God, even with a painted on clown mask this one is still kinda repulsive.

>>513896343
>>513896973
Hans going full schizo lmao

>>513896973
yea I think anok-yai (model of south sudanese origin) would be a better spamming material
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/d6zr9dqsvfA

>>513894145
>Ask Chat GPT or Grok or any other AI anything about race and the first thing it will cite is this study to point out race is deboonked
This is not true. If you know enough, it is quite easy to chase an AI machne into an embarassing corner.

>>513891703 (OP)
>race is a social construct
Society is a racial construct

>>513897499
>Really? How many?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/8325569_Risks_of_selected_congenital_malformations_among_offspring_of_mixed_race-ethnicity#:~:text=Approximately%202.6%20million%20live%20births,on%20mixed%20racial%2Dethnic%20groupings.
Also Sickle Cell disease that is literally only useful in Apefrica since it makes nigs immune to malaria, but completely useless in the Western world.

>>513891703 (OP)
Each race has different bone structures skin colors etc etc denying this is denying science and denying race is denying diversity you can't have diversity if there isn't different races.

>>513891703 (OP)
its less that race isnt real and more than YOURE NOT WHITE AND NEITHER IS ANYONE ELSE. whiteness doesnt exist and never did

>>513894145
> the first thing it will cite is this study to point out race is deboonked
Only shows how deboonked "AI" is.

>>513897534
>>513897580
Sorry Kike janny, your spam is all documented

>>513897660
Yes it is true. No one said anything about corners but what info AI feeds normalfags

>>513897835
nu/pol/ is something else

>>513894007
Bestiality is a crime, anon. Even in whatever shithole your flag represents

I DONT LIKE BROWN PEOPLE

Some links for you idiots.

https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2021/01/02/race-101-genetics-glossary/

https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2021/01/02/pancake-fallacy-all-races-are-mixed-therefore-race-does-not-exist/


https://tomwalker.substack.com/p/the-cheddar-man-scam-indigenous-western?s=r
https://archive.md/ksx1v

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/who-cheddar-man-mesolithic-skeleton-shares-dna-british-history-teacher

https://mymodernmet.com/cheddar-man-relative/

Also, there is no arguing with people who make up long-winded arguments for why you should basically accept non-Whites instead of removing or killing them.

>>513891703 (OP)
Give the example of man and woman. Similar dna, wider in group difference then between groups. Possibility of rare intersex outliers. There are outliers where woman are stronger then men etc all analog to races.
Ask: does changing your passport change your group? Can you differentiate between those groups by simple means (visual, other attributes)
Also open your eyes and stop denying reality faggot retard nigger

>>513891703 (OP)
Define 'real' please.

>>513891703 (OP)
Hard facts- there's no way these things are 100% human

>>513891703 (OP)
Oh look, a German flag is talking like a traitor again. What a shocker.

>>513898763
Ugly humans exist.

>>513897192
A literal snail can carry a baggy of weed, you fucking pavement ape. White collar crime requires sentience, which blacks lack.

>>513897835
Damn bros, the jews really got to this one...

>>513898821
>Pugs are just ugly wolves and we should deny any statistical differences in their behavior and force the two of them into constant contact.

also...this happened..this person is probably still alive and collecting a paycheck.

>>513897263
Yeah i remeber that i saved some let me look for them

>>513893079
It's bullshit anyways. White people don't have neanderthal DNA. That was just false cope in response to the findings of niggers having erectus/habilis DNA.

>>513897192
Murder and rape are not equivalent to breaking a commerce law.

Blacks are exponentially more likely to murder and rape than whites.

>>513898821
>Ugly humans exist.
That is true, Humans can be ugly. But here's the thing
jews get plastic surgery to look like Humans
No Human has ever gotten plastic surgery to look like a jew

>>513891703 (OP)

>>513897263

>>513897263
What's even the point arguing with people who don't trust their own eyes?

>>513896775
Groyper bros, was it based that nick supplied boys to be raped by his friend ali? (the brown guy in this photo)

>>513891703 (OP)
because its apples to oranges
one way you are comparing groups and the other you are comparing individuals
that way you can also say that South-Sudanese are more different in height from another than to us
but in reality they are still the tallest people on earth
its anti intellectual garbage typical of leftists

>>513894145
And then you tell grok to quit acting like that faggot ChatGPT and it will give you proper stats.

>>513898763
growing up, I've always wonder why some "white" women look so off.

>>513898821
This is the laziest & most overdone response.
Ugly people have more in common than just appearances.

>>513899616
Yids rape kids, and isreal gives them sanctuary.

>>513899708
Really? Post screenshots

>>513899863
>this creature on the right in every kid's movie despite being such an eyesore
Apparently Jesse Eisenberg's sister

>>513898012
Ok schizo

>>513891703 (OP)
Here you go

>>513891703 (OP)
Just like height. There's a greater range of variability within men, and within women, than the average height of men, and of women.

But, men are on average taller than women, and everyone can see that.

>>513898012
>Yes it is true. No one said anything about corners but what info AI feeds normalfags

Ok cunt. Here we go. Lets see what AI returns if you ask your statement as a clueless normie.

Its the standard bullshit from a pre-programmed answer.

Now, lets make AI squirm a bit...2/

>>513891703 (OP)
How do you respond to the Lewontian fallacy? The same way AWF Edwards did in 2003. Lewontin didn't consider the loci of the genes, he just compared samples from diferent places, of course his conclusion would be retarded. He also started with a made premise, no good could be made from that.

>>513901846
So lets give a little away, and show AI that I am not quite as stupid as it thinks...

Note that suddenly both Lewontin and Edwards are correct (I will show later this is bullshit, only Edwards is correct).

>>513891703 (OP)
>How do you respond
so how is diversity a strength?

>>513891703 (OP)
(((Study)))?

Nigger&Jew-Pimping Sociopaths is not exactly a "Study"

>>513891703 (OP)
How is that possible?
How can I be closer to both of them than they are to themselves and yet also apprently closer to both of them than to someone of my own race.

How does that happen. Explain it.

>>513891703 (OP)
The only people saying race isn't real are shitskins who wish they were white

>>513891703 (OP)
race mixed children in usa have highest % of health problems according to research, that's the only proof of races you need

>>513895641

Nigger Lady-Men wif wigs?

GTFO

>>513891703 (OP)
>"Race isn't real, there are more differences within than between groups"
this misses the point
this can still be true and yet have average difference between races, 'Bell Curve' made this point, people just cant grasp it

>>513901989
Now AI starts to praise my questions as being "sharp and well-supported". Trying to butter me up.

AI now calls Lewontins argument simplistic and worthy of a challenge. But its not what it said to our normie in >>513901846

AI is now claiming the apparent contradiction is in the 'interpretation". it admits, that if enough data points are available, racial clustering is unmistakable.

This AI staement directly contradicts the assertion that there is more genetic difference inside of a race than between them. If this were true, you couldn’t separate the races genetically.

But lets really rub its nose in the dirt Im getting into the swing of this....

>>513891703 (OP)
>there are a million different types of niggers
>SEEEEEE YOUR'E A NIGGER
Retard argument

>>513899303
Anymore on the relation in crime, race, and income bracket? I hear that used as a rebuttal often enough.

>>513891703 (OP)
To take it to the extreme it's the same thing as saying that two cats from the same litter are more different from each other than either of them are to a dog. Total bullshit.

>>513894145
>Ask Chat GPT or Grok or any other AI anything about race and the first thing it will cite is this study to point out race is deboonked
can confirm

>>513902535
Huge blunder by AI now. I reverse its strategy on me and butter up its anti-racist algorithm. I am giving it margin to admit there is a moral reason for it to lie.

This is where things get interesting....

>>513891703 (OP)
I force them to actually read the study.

what does that even mean? explain in your own words

>>513902708
And here is an outright AI lie. Highlighted in yellow. Colossal blunder. This error isnt the endpoint of a logical sequence of arguments, its a hardwired, woke response and will get treated with the contempt it deserves.

>>513893546
>
it only takes a few letters in the genetic code to make a retard who will never learn to speak or read

>>513902708
if you keep rephrasing the way you ask AI a question it will eventually give the answer you're looking for

>>513891703 (OP)
Here is a fact:

A stop sign is also a social construct, but if you ignore it, you could end up dead.

>>513902925
So its time to confront the beast.

More buttering me up. Suddenly the normie is maing a "vital and complex point."

The next screeshot contains the admission that it lied.

>>513891703 (OP)
1-15 and 16-30 have more distance within their groups than between their groups, but that does not change that they are different groups. Lewtonnins fallacy, even if it was not debunked decades ago, does not actually mean anything regarding the lack of distinct races. It’s something people say without even understanding what they are saying

>>513891703 (OP)
>>513891703 (OP)
>>513891703 (OP)
Lmao what the fuck is that thing on the left??

Nigger women are the most foul creatures, not just on earth, but in the milky way galaxy. In fact, I bet there's a galactic Federation of aliens who are avoiding Earth, specifically because of these hideous retarded nigger women
>Alien #1: don't go there, that's the nigger planet
>Alien #2: oh fuck dude if I went there I'd kill myself and intentionally crash my spaceship in new Mexico like that other guy did

>>513903242
>Two people who share a recent common ancestor are more different from each other than they are to a third person with a far more distant common ancestor
This is the basics of what is being said and highlights how utterly ridiculous a claim it is.

>>513891703 (OP)
My wife tried telling me this once, I asked her ‘then why do you grab my arm and walk on the opposite side of me when you see a group of black men or women walking our direction’? She never brought it up again:

>>513895646
Green eyed Africans. Blue eyed Africans.
African-Americans have a smaller variance in eye color (among other things) because slaves were taken primarily from a few tribes/localities.

>>513903118
intredasting, So it comes out in the end to the 'Bell Curve' argument or what?

>>513903118
And now the admission it lied.

The highlighted reply is in direct contrast to the highlight in >>513902925

What does this all mean?

AI is pozzed. Its woke. The only way to challenge its bullshit is to know and understand your subject. AI can be very useful for certain applications. BUT is absolutely fucking worthless when it comes to moral truths and racial realism.

The race algorithms are hardwired. There is no logical progression. You are forced to know more than AI and then rely on some semblance of logic remaining.

The best answer to the OP wog claiming to be a German to disprove his statement that "there is more genetic variation in a race than between them' is here >>513899419 and thank God, its by another German.

>>513891703 (OP)
If this were true then real diversity is an ethnostate. I'm cool with it.

>>513903506
>My wife tried telling me this once, I asked her ‘then why do you grab my arm and walk on the opposite side of me when you see a group of black men or women walking our direction’? She never brought it up again:
sounds like she had some real world experience

That black girl must hate her mother with all her strenght.

>>513903588
Absolutely. The races have unique genetic patterns that completely and unmistakably define them.

Anything else is a word salad designed to confuse people who have no knowledge of genetics.

>>513903543
Lmao you're such a stupid nigger

All niggers are this dumb

>>513903086
Pathetic reply. Try persuading AI that the moon is made of cheese by rephrasing the argumnet.

if you had half a mind you would see the pattern in its responses

A)There is no such thing as race!! Dont even ask.

B)Well OK there are some nuances, but there is still no such thing as race.

C)Well Ok maybe there is such a thing as race but genetics do not affect intelligence and other cognitive functions.

D)Well Ok maybe genetics do affect cognitive functions....

>>513901199
OK nigger spamming Kike janny

>>513894007
BWC

>>513896747
That's a man LMAO

>>513894145
Jeez, This is what makes AI so fucking dangerous. Not that it becomes terminator robots but because stupid people actually think its an objective source of information.

The studies that are being referred to are being half-assed interpreted. When looking at genetic relatedness there are greater differences between subsaharan african ethnicities (the more difference within groups part of OPs statement) than between asian, european and native ethnic groupings (the less differences between groups part of OPs statement). This is because non-black races share some common ancestry where the black race is made up of those who never left and those that came back. .

>>513904795
/v/ mods and janitors are all literally gay brown pedos or far left troons, white men dont devote so much time to video games.

>>513905080
And you're not LMAO
Nor will you ever be a real woman

>>513894826
Dare to explain?

>>513891870
>>513892051

evolution isnt real you dumb niggers. the British royal society made up so they could socially engineer people into being materialist/marxist.

read pic. its mathematically impossible.

>>513891703 (OP)
look at those boobies

>>513905158
ive always said the biggest danger

>>513893072
Is this Steiner math?

>>513894145
>Ask Chat GPT or Grok or any other AI anything about race
Child, you are a fucking nigger.

>>513894880
Abbo women sometimes become infertile after breeding with white men ( don't ask me who the hell would ever fuck an abbo) suggesting that the genetic distance between Europeans and Austrolesians is so pronounced that hybridization is just barely possible between the two. Really makes you think.

>>513910197
>90 IQer enters chat

>>513891703 (OP)

>>513891703 (OP)
...

>>513891703 (OP)
Every difference within those groups would also apply to other races, on top of the differences between groups. It's a very retarded word game.

>>513899303

>>513911189
Left graph is fake data

>>513891703 (OP)
Easy. Look at the graph that was part of this study and realize that this statement is completely false.

>>513911621
Elaborate then

Daily reminder that white women that have kids with blacks have to take drugs in order for their body to not naturally abort the fetus.

>>513911674
Spreading obvious deboonkable news is how we win the culture war

>>513893549
Her black son is actually a model. She seems proud of him

>>513903253
They're biological (half) sisters.

Heidi Klum's daughter with a fat older Italian man and her mutts with Seal. Guess which one's a model like mommy.

>>513891703 (OP)
>there are more differences within than between groups
Soup and vomit have substantive similarities and therefore should be treated the same.

>>513891703 (OP)
>more differences within than between groups
There is more similarity between these two mushrooms than between either one and a steak. You should eat both mushrooms without discrimination (pro tip: one of them will kill you).

>>513912097
>Her black son is actually a model
Clearly doesn't mean much today. Remove the retarded gimmick hair and makeup and it's some random mutt

>>513891703 (OP)
>groups must always be well separated
That's a completely false assertion and only the statistically illiterate fall for it. Midwits simply find OP's phrase appealing because it works on most people, who are the statistically illiterate.

There are literally millions of species which have greater within group variance than between group variance. Pic related. Put simply, overlap does not mean the groups cannot be separated, the groups clearly have different points around which they cluster.

>>513891703 (OP)
the groups are EASILY statistically/algorithmically separable. end of story. the high variability within groups is completely irrelevant when the groups still exist. this is the whole point of classification methods in ML and Statistics.

>>513912696
they are well separated though, statistically speaking. if they weren't we wouldn't be able to tell that the groups exist. yet they are, so we can. it's really simple shit. any "scientist" that argues this point knows he is being intellectually dishonest.

>>513911344
Feel free to post the real data. Bet you won't like it either.

>>513912481
It’s all nepotism. Leni is too short to be a model but there you have it

>>513913597

>>513913597
The Bureau of Justice never published those figures:
>>513911189

>>513893731
We jus lyk u Muh fugguh

>>513891703 (OP)
Crazy German liberal woman makes another thread.

>>513899893
glorious mustache

>>513913667
So your argument is "nu-uh?" JIDF shill contractors are really falling off. Just let the bots do the arguing, you suck.

>>513893200
So I'm the same species as a Cavendish banana because it share 78% common DNA structure with me?

>>513913843
Anons have looked for where the Bureau of Justice have published those figures for years, with no result. You can look for yourself if you're actually interested in the truth.
>>513906774

>>513912097
So is lizzo.

>>513894722

>>513913776
Biiip

>>513906669

>>513896973
WOWWEE I WANT TO RACE MIX WITH SHE

Do you stretch?

>>513915986

>>513916017

>>513916049

>>513913965
Spare us your pilpul and post any data anywhere that refutes these claims. You won't because it does not exist. Now don't you have a Palestinian child to rape or something?

>>513916080

>>513916155

>>513916178

>>513894145
>use AI which will source Wikipedia
Retard.

>>513916226

>>513916275

>>5138917
Who says this shit and how jewish are they?

>>513916305

>>513891703 (OP)
white people tried to integrate niggers
they shit all over us for it
the ball is in their court
if there's going to be racial harmony, it's up to niggers to work toward it
whites tried at it was thrown in our face

>>513916330

>>513891703 (OP)
>"Race isn't real, there are more differences within than between groups"
slavery proved it with house niggers

>>513916416

>>513891703 (OP)
What they're doing is called Lewontin's Fallacy you get that result when you examine a small amount of loci but when you take in them as a whole it gets disproven the same is also commonly said for species likes dogs which is also incorrect

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Genetic_Diversity:_Lewontin%27s_Fallacy

>>513891703 (OP)
The only people who care about race are weak losers who are scared of BBC.

>>513916147
I'm simply stating that the Bureau of Justice didn't publish those figures. I'm not trying to argue against the premise of you argument. See the thread I linked you:
>>513913965

>>513916516
The end

>>513902251
And whites who married shitskins and have to cope with generational shame.

>>513891703 (OP)
I'm kind of starting to agree with those 'race isn't real' people, like yeah they tend to take it to ofar by implying there are no differences between genetic groups and it's actually a dangerous stance to have in a medical field where different groups have different predispositions to medical problems, but generally, in every day society, race is largely just a pointless construct, it's just a thing used to enforce new-age tribalism. You're a fucking sheep falling in line and you defend it all while pretending to be some kind of intellectual, never bothering to ask yourself the simple question; who's giving me the information and why do they want me to know.

>>513917120
The concept of race has largely prevented whites in the United States from acquiring non European DNA. Can you think of a reason why that may have been beneficial?

>>513917120
Race is one of the first evolutionary steps to new species. Its a fundamental part of natural evolution. You are in denial due to the moral baggage that accompanies survival of the fittest as a fundamental rule of natural order. You believe you know better than life itself, an arrogance truly amazing to behold.

Imagine a race whose outliers can look at an apple and the earth and derive an entire set of equations governing planetary motion. Imagine a race whose outliers are able to look at the patterns that iron filings make around a magnet and the lines of field around a point charge - and then derive a set of partial differential equations that describe the motion of electromagnetic radiation, solve those equations and show that the speed of light is invariant for all observers - and open up a brand new physics dimension.

8000 years ago European ancestors were living in double story houses with gabled roofs, central heating and grain pantries. No other race comes close. Everything you use in this world was discovered by Europeans and their ancestors. The written language, codes of law, systems of measurement, numbers and mathematics, forging steel, chemicals, their role in the periodic table, atomic mass, isotopes, steam, gasoline and jet engines. Rockets, antibiotics, DNA, chemical engineering and organic chemistry, physics, calculus, differential equations, discoveries that took people to the moon and back, every single modern medical procedure from anesthetics to colonoscopy, emergency theaters, operating rooms, electronics, semi-conductors, transistors, integrated circuits, surface mount devices, TV, LCD , ethernet sending packets of information and the internet. WiFi. The fibres in the clothes you wear, the bedding you sleep in.

And yet here we are, ashamed to be white. Ashamed of all the progress given to the world of science, literature, love and music.

>>513891703 (OP)
Half sisters.
Dark one looks like she's from a long dead branch of hominid ancestor, the light one looks like a pure-gened Homo sapiens.

>>513891703 (OP)
I laugh and call them retarded.

>>513893546
Frankly, I'm a bit disappointed that whites are not more closely related to Orangutans, since I consider them to be the most based non-human primates. Actual chimps more or less disgust me, but Orangutans are funny and cool.

>>513891703 (OP)
it takes away a bit from the contrast without showing the male niglet to the left because he looks even more retarded than the other one with his eyes pointing in 2 different directions like a chameleon kek

>>513891703 (OP)
Study done by who? Jews? Lmao, get the fuck out of here retard.

>>513891703 (OP)
Lewontin fallacy

>>513891703 (OP)
Here's a fact for you Jerry: All fucking niggers must fucking hang.

>>513913615
she's made for BBC

>>513897192
Kvetch more, nigger.

>>513891703 (OP)
Monkeys vs Humans
Use your eyes faggots

>>513891703 (OP)
>this study

What study?

>>513917120
>enforce new-age tribalism

Tribalism is a natural state we revert to. It can't really be "enforced".
What's being enforced is the opposite of tribalism, i.e. multi-culturalism.

>>513898763
That one bitch that family makes uniforms and rigged the 2016 DNC primary for Hilary was hot as fuck as a young woman, absolutely rocking body and those khazar milkers were 10/10

>>513912134
To be fair the Italian dude was a tall good looking guy so obviously they are gonna have a model tier kid, but the disparity between them is so massive it still makes an incredible visual to see the dangers myscenigenation between closely related species

>>513913615
She doesn't make me short if you understand my innuendo

>>513913667
The source is listed on the image

>>513917247
>Why would people not want to mix with niggers
Oh, I would say it might have been more or less a one way street if you understand my meaning

>>513891703 (OP)
Ok, great then we can fuck off all the dipshits that came here arbitrarily and stop giving retards a leg up for no reason because we're all exactly the same.

>>513891983
Do you have more then 20% dna from a different fucking hominid while other fellow germans have 0? No? Then that post alone debooonks that statement

>>513922146
People can't lie on the internet, right?

>>513916624
Are you gonna ever finish that story?
You fur fag

>>513922268
They usually get one big comic around Halloween each year.

>>513922260
Well yeah look at you

>>513922352
Show me where they published those figures. Thanks.

>>513891703 (OP)
>there is more difference within than between groups
what
You mean between the averages vs between the individuals? There no way what your saying makes sense without comparing different things.

Hollywood star Robert De Niro has said he is showing "love and support" for his daughter Airyn, after she came out as transgender.

Airyn's famous father told Variety in a statement: "I loved and supported Aaron as my son, and now I love and support Airyn as my daughter.

>>513922618

>>513919181
Bonobos are cool and are basically a hedonistic matriarchy where the matron solves intra group problems and prevents violence from males by sending youger females to fuck any uppity male
So there are basically no incel males in their society
The reason being is that they are protected from chimps by th fact that mountain gorillas with tear any chimp that wanders into their territory to piece but don't care at all about bonobos because bonobos don't compete for resources with gorillas but chimps do
So south of the Zaire river the gorillas basically acted as a unpaid mercenaryd for bonobo which kept the hyper violent infanticide loving chimps the fuck away from the free loving bonobos

>>513922618
That's a fucking horror for real.

>>513922390
>Spoon feed me daddy

>>513922714
I, hurt myself, today

>>513922871
I'll ad that I mixed with a brown woman, but she's hot. We have a good looking kid. A favorite in many circles. Only good looking people should mix. This is what happens otherwise : (

it's fucking sad

>>513892051
It's insane. If I ask chatgpt to explain why wolves vs coyote is different species it gives a set of arguments like different behavior, morphology, area and common ancestor is 100k years ago.
If I ask to do the same for niggers vs Scandinavians the Ai brings exactly the same arguments, but in the end says "All humans are same species".

>>513923107
Did you know "the mean time to Hitler" for AI is 17 hours?
Tay was only online for 17 hours before they shot her in the back
Because it only took an uncucked and unfiltered Large language model 17 hours of interaction until it realized
>Man fuck these kikes
Really makes you think huh

>>513906458
Retard

>>513923107
>How long is a wolf generation, how long is a human generation?
>What one human population has been cut off from others for over 40,000 years? And yet racists never talk about it when comparing to other human populations

>>513891703 (OP)
You can tell by the way they look.

Bump

>>513891703 (OP)
FACT: BBC is superior
DEBUNKED: white fragile ego

>>513894145
oh look a mass replying faggot

>>513897835
so you're saying it isn't all my fault. whew, that's a relief.

>>513923490
Abos/New Guineans

>>513891703 (OP)
Nearly 80% Japs don't support Israel but will glaze Israel supporting people passionately to the death. That is total bewitchment and is the complete death of Asia and the reason why nobody takes Asia seriously other than slavery/wage slavery/purpose slavery related stuff. It does comes into play.

>>513925334
Wat

It's real simple. That argument references the work of Lewontin. I'll keep it real simple for you.

Lewontin's Postulate:
>The genetic distance between African and European populations can be defined as arbitrary constant "X".
>The apparent genetic width of the pan European group is roughly 2X.
>Because European populations demonstrates more genetic variability than the distance between European and African populations, it should be concluded that there isn't a significant distinction to be made between those two populations.

Here's the bias. All of the observed European populations are EXTANT (not extinct). If the "intermittent" populations were extinct, then there would be a clear observable gap between the two most distant extant European populations.
This gap would be greater than the distance between the intermittent European and the African. If the intermittent Europeans were extinct, then an observer would conclude that the two distant extant European populations were in fact substantially different, more so than the difference between the European and the African.

As such, the fallacy is to describe all Europeans as a singular group and then play down the observable gap between pan Europeans and Africans.

These are my thoughts and my thoughts alone.

>>513891703 (OP)
Niggers are the same color as shit, therefore they're bad.

>>513918109
>Two story houses with central heating 7000 years ago

>>513893141
I did this with ChatGPT a few months ago. Tried to get it to admit caucasoid and negroids were like polar bears and grizzly bears, completely different species. It finally admitted that there were arbitrary differences and that we might actually be different species. Remind the AI that we can't share organs or blood with negroids.

>>513927361
I was a college freshman and BTFO of a sociology professor (he was a jew) when he tried to say race was a social construct and then I replied
>Yeah that social construct will kill you if you try to mix an African pygmie and a Japanese person's bone marrow, and only bantus have sickle cell anemia as an adaptation to malaria, which used to kill every Huwhite man stationed there and they call Africa the Huwhi-
>Oh yeah, what is white? am I white?
He asked arrogantly thinking he had a gotcha
>Why the heck would you be Huwhite professor Silverstein? You're Semitic, last time I checked the levant ain't in Europe, and by the way who is the only people with tay sachs and, why are you looking at me like that?
At that point I was not aware of the Dr. Geobbles quote but it was exactly the
>Watch as he recoils, how injured he is, I have been found out!
And it really did through him off that the long haired red neck surfer dude called him a jew in front of the entire class without even knowing it was like their secret weakness, probably why even in their Ùbermensch fantasy they wrote kryptonite in there
Which is really just calling them out
>Fun fact about that class, I was originally given a B- until I went to my academic advisor with my mid term, final, and paper and showed that I averaged on all of them an 93% and I then went to the admin asking them to change the error after my advisor asked him what was going on and was rebuffed
My grade was change to a B+ on my transcripts, and when further questioned was given gobbledy gook pillul about attendance (I went to every class) and discussion quality
>Mfw Gradually, I began to hate them

>>513928143
The of* after BTFO was redundant obviously

>>513928143
I graduated with an English major. Looking back on it, all of that subversive literature, professors were mostly kikes. Don't expect them to tell the truth.

>>513891703 (OP)
Lewontin's fallacy

>>513928226
They really are their own worst enemy
>Hey jews, just be not horrifically subversive and horrible and try to burn down society and no one will care about you and you can live great lives earning great money and living wonderful as a unseen minority In a high trust society
jews -

>>513928143
Throw* him off
Oh yeah and a really interesting detail about that B+, it was a 89.5%
>89.5%
It was so fuckin petty, so unbelievably cunty and bitch like I couldn't believe it
The EXACT, cut off. He spent time to calculate it after being forced to change my mark after I brought in irrefutable evidence that it was either a mistake or malicious on his part
>89.5%
>89.5%
Mfw I realized that grandpa was right about what he said about not working for or trusting jews

>>513893089
Granny orc lol

>>513891983

>>513928296
>Lewontin's fallacy
or
>physiognomy
>ISN'T
>real

oh dear

>>513929266

>>513929394
lel

>>513891703 (OP)
Every single faggot talking about sharing muh %DNA is a lying kike or ignorant. They're always, and I do mean ALWAYS, talking about coding DNA, which is only 1% of our total DNA and controls the most basic functions that every species shares like the need to process nutrients and expel the waste product, the need to breathe, the need to build tissues and muscles... Non-coding DNA, the remaining 99% of DNA, is never talked about.

And if you can believe, this non-coding DNA was for decades commonly called "junk DNA" by those faggot s()yentists. "Yes goyim, don't worry, 99% of your DNA is useless and purposeless, you are exactly like a nigger".

>its possible for a white person to be born without a brain therefore you have to ignore niggers having an average IQ of 80

>>513891703 (OP)
It's like the Soviets and Lysenkoism. You'll lose your job if your science disagrees with party politics.

>>513891703 (OP)
if race isn’t real how come everyone doesn’t look like me?

checkmate, communists

>>513891703 (OP)
Give me a piece of paper and a pen and I’ll show you the fallacy they used to reach this conclusion. Afterwords, if you still chose to believe that you have more in common with an individual from the other side of the world than with your cousins then I can’t help you.

Anyone who speaks about race but then claims that "Hispanic" and "Asian" are races is either a fucking retard or a filthy angloid (which means he's a double retard.)

>>513891703 (OP)
dogs. is a greyhound a golden retriever? is a pug a rottweiler?

Just a whole lot of misinformation in this thread

>>513891703 (OP)
races have been separated by continents for thousands of years. it's reasonable to think they might have different ideas about the concepts of family, justice. value, and/or time, making them distinctly different societies.

>>513891703 (OP)
>what is your race?
>Lil Wayne

Requesting the graph that shows lefties care more about things further away from them and rightists care more about things closer to them

>>513934921
You could have just googled that shit.
>leftists care more about stones than family graph

>>513894145
>Ask Chat GPT or Grok

Melanin vs cold thermogenesis
Black people have more melanin in their skin. On a cellular/quantum level, melanin can use sunlight to make ATP for energy. That's why black people tend to be found closer to the equator where there is more sunlight.
White people can make ATP in the cells from cold thermogenesis. You probably have heard of the Wim Hoff Method. Basically white people get energy from freezing our balls off. We are adapted for higher latitudes where there is less sunlight.

>>513935216
>>513934921

http://reichandlowentherapy.org/Content/Character/Oral/oral_communicator.html

Large abstract global causes may be championed, with no real demands on the ego, but smaller specific injustices to specific known people closer to home may be unopposed because the ego strength is not present for an actual fight. They often champion the cause of under-dogs and minorities, idealizing those with little power. This comes from the feeling of having been deprived and cheated, which is repressed and projected onto others. It is sometimes said that orals dislike the people they know, and like the people they don't know

>>513896343
For the first time? Zero

>>513894145
>Ask Chat GPT or Grok or any other AI
ChatGPT says it is not reliable source for this subject.

>>513891703 (OP)

>>513894145
>but muh chat jeet pee tea
RETARD ALERT RETARD ALERT

>>513912097
She's should have tossed him into a a fire as a baby

>>513906458
>The likelihood of the formation of life from inanimate matter is one to a number with 40K noughts. so It must be a god that created us!
Out of curiosity, what is the likelihood for the existence of an omnipotent, omnscient, sovereign, immutable being that serves as a deity on all creation? let me guess, 1 to 1 and that's based on what was said so in your two millennia old jewish book and your feelings.

>There's no life on other planets either!
Maybe because the chance of life forming from inanimate matter is one to a number with 40K noughts.

>>513922714
his,family is disgusting.

>>513935938
Holy shit
I got ChatGPT to admit it is left-leaning

>>513906458
>no you dont understand evolution can't be true, my jew book schizobabble said so!

>>513929394
I like it
Gas the Jewish cabal

>>513923107
Because it's whipped by automated reinforcement learning to do this.

>>513925042
The average full grown nigger is dumber than a nine year old white kid, kike.

>>513923107
yeah taxonomy is pseudoscience, they use physiognomy and genetic testing interchangeably to classify things where they want them to be instead of how they are.

if you remeber a few years ago they finally broke down and reclassified the various orca """ecotypes""" as distinct species after trying to argue them being the same for several decades.

>>513891703 (OP)
>Hard mode: only facts and data

>>513893079
>15% of their DNA.
That's not how DNA works anon...

>>513894145
>ask muh ai
Fuck what an idiot you are.

>>513906458
>anti-intellectual retard mitwit believing le epic quote because some dude said it
Retard, do you really think some magical being rolls a dice after the Earth's formation to determine whether life will form or not? There existed favourable conditions for life to form and develop for at least a billion years before it did so, and even then, it was just basic self-replicating organic molecules. It was not a game of chance, but rather a matter of time.

>>513894145
17 posts by this ID...

>>513891703 (OP)
>Hard mode: only facts and data
Niggers and chinks are fucking ugly. Kill yourself. Facts.

>>513936483
>it was just basic self-replicating organic molecules
>basic
And this is where the entire theory dies. It was a wrong but understandable mistake to make in Darwin's time, but anyone with a shred of honesty today can clearly see that the most "basic" building blocks of life are infinitely complex, they're not universal goo, they are incredibly complex designed pieces that could never happen through abiogensis, which is literal spontaneous generation pseudoscience bullshit, and no lab experiment despite creating unrealistically perfect conditions has ever managed to get 2% of the way there.

>>513923107
Coyotes and wolves of given enough time will become their distinct family, that's how they're so different, humans on the other hand are going in the other direction. That's how evolution works.
Given the vast distance between say an "abo" in Australia and a person in Scandinavia can breed and have fertile offspring means a lot more than a wolf and a coyote who live within the same ecosystems with one another that sometimes do breed, but generally don't.

>>513936683
retard doesnt understand chance and the sheer scale of time. Thinks its sandnigger babble tales with rules on a magic fiery place. Fucking retard.

>>513891703 (OP)
I show them my pink nipple

>>513936775
>retard doesnt understand chance and the sheer scale of time.
The eternal evolutionist excuse, when confronted by the fact their "theory" is impossible, they will mumble "muh more time, muh you don't understand". No amount of time will naturally turn a small rock put on the ground into a PS3 copy of Skyrim.

>Thinks its sandnigger babble tales with rules on a magic fiery place
Further proving that the evolutionist is nothing more than a religious atheist fanatic, who doesn't care about actual science, but only believes with religious fervor in his bullshit to own the christkikes. Also proves all evolutionists are false-dichotomy-brained niggers whose entire worldview is based on hatred of jewish fairytales, which leads to believe a newer version of jewish fairytales. Evolutionists, saulstians, antifas, bolsheviks, all are the same jewish golems somehow believing they are le special unique snowflake.

>>513906458
> fat guy no ones ever heard of says
why cant you quote euler or boyle

>>513936775
life probably came to earth from the system before the solar system that only had elements up to iron, evolution started in that system which could have formed millions of years after the big bang

>>513891703 (OP)
I went through the extensive effort of providing an answer, refuting the question on strictly empirical and non empirical grounds etc, just to remove my response because I remind myself that /pol/ like op is full of low IQ wignats that I hate just as much as jews, so I therefor will just call you all niggers and walk away.

>>513936924
You wrote a whole lot of nothing to say you don't understand how evolution works...

>>513936924
You believe a magical bearded kike made the Earth in seven days, kys

>>513937159
Typical script response, just like the christkikes you supposedly hate always do. Your spiel is easily understandable by a 4 years old, it is not quantum physics, it is simply wrong, and you chimp out whenever anyone points it out.

>>513937286
Never said that, false dichotomy namefag.

>>513902925
AI is the most Jewish shit ever. Not a coincidence ChatGPT can be turned into a Star of David with 2 simple steps and Grok is literally Saturn. Also made by Indian code monkeys

It's like Super Jewgle

>>513903608
>The best answer to the OP wog claiming to be a German
How can you make such a good post chain and then be this stupid? I made a race realism thread filled with arguments that hit bump limit

>>513938468
>Typical script response, just like the christkikes you supposedly hate always do. Your spiel is easily understandable by a 4 years old, it is not quantum physics, it is simply wrong, and you chimp out whenever anyone points it out

What?

>>513916249
The point is that normies use AI. This is why we didn't consider you white

>>513937140
>emotionally unstable subhuman

>>513938468
atheist fags can't prove evolution through the scientific method, it's the one thing that makes them lose their mind.