Thread 513895141

>>513895141 (OP)
Tgey already ate a viable option.

You can also make metal ar lowers with a $3000 milling machine

>>513895141 (OP)
Second Amendment:
>A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
>A WELL REGULATED
That means regulations on things like 3D printed guns are absolutely valid and not against the Constitution in the slightest. Neither is banning bump stocks or fully automatic weapons.

>>513895357
well regulated mean well supplied
it means the feds cannot prevent supplies to state militias
if a state wants nukes, feds cannot prevent that

>>513895516
kill yourself

>>513895357
Wrong. Intellectually dishonest. "Well-regulated" means having your shit together- like being fit, trained, and equipped with weapons. A militia is armed citizenry. The people. That is separate from a standing military. The second amendment is so plainly laid out, only a liar can say it does not mean exactly what it says.

>>513895653
look it up
back in their day the word regulating did NOT mean - cucking
it meant supplies - or in working order

so, they meant, you need well supplied militia in working order and the feds cannot do anything to interfere with that because it is vital

and the right to bear arms is there to ensure you can carry your arms in the open demonstrating you are a free man

>>513895357
Other anons are covering the meaning of the phrase "well regulated"

I'd like to address the completely retarded logic of your argument, faggot.

The second amendment exists so that the people can fight against their own government if need be.

Giving that government the ability to restrict the people's ability to access weapons directly violates the intent of the second amendment.

Therefore you are a faggot

>>513895516
>>513895857
"Well regulated" does not mean "well supplied" but you can't ever trust gun nuts to understand what words mean

Maybe you haven't noticed, but at a federal level all talk of assault weapon bans or whatever has mostly faded.

The battle was lost after Sandy Hook, and the war was lost with Trump in 2016. There are more guns than anyone could have imagined 15 years ago.

>>513896580
use a search engine you monkey nigger

>>513895357
Samefag here

Additionally, making your own guns has always been legal. They are fairly simple machines, I'm a gunsmith, it's easy.

3d printing doesn't change that.

Rights aren't dependant on the technology available at the time they were written down.

Faggot

>>513896643
How do we win worldwide?

>>513895357
>A well regulated militia is necessary.
>Thus, access to firearms must be readily available. All regulations must therefore assist access.
That's what it actually fucking says, retard. Words. They mean things.

>>513896580
>doesn't understand that "well regulated" REQUIRES "well supplied"
And militaries don't have logistics ratings. Right.

>>513896673
>Making your own guns.
And you have to put serial numbers on them and register them with the government.
Or just faggetaboutit and be assured by the ATF.

>>513895357
continental marshall here
you haven't the first fucking clue who or what the actual militias are

>>513897081
You don't even know how to spell "Marshal"

>>513896580
"Well regulated" at the time the second amendment was written meant "kept in good working order" A well regulated militia wild be understood to mean a militia that is capable of performing it's expected duties. Soldiers in the standing armies at the time we're referred to as "regulars"

Just as eating fiber keeps your digestion regular, and a well made clock is regulated. That doesn't mean the government is in charge of them. It means that they are "in good working order"

And like I said I'm the other comment, it's always been legal, and thanks to Bruen it's always going to be legal. Caetano vs Mass says that the second applies to weapons made with technology that didn't exist at the nations founding. Gun control lost, you are an idiot for thinking you still have a chance.
Faggot

>>513896417
Where in the constitution does it say that the purpose of the 2A is explicitely for people to fight against their own government. The language only implies it is to maintain security which at the time it was written would be against foreign powers.

I think america needs more guns. 50% gun ownership rate is too low honestly
crank it up to 60% in all states like in Alaska and Wyoming, and 80% in those
we should support republicans and stomp on california
it's for our own good

How about we change the 2nd amendment to reflect modern times

>>513897058
No you don't

Registries are literally prohibited by federal law.

Serial numbers are requirements for those engaged in business.

Do talk about shit you don't know about.

>>513897274
>he doesn't know California has the most guns and gun owners of any state

>>513895357
>A WELL REGULATED

Meaning proficient with your weapons and able to be battle ready on short notice, but you're a lying jew so you already knew that and there's no point having this discussion over violently silencing you

>>513897274
This. The more means Americans have to slaughter each other and their own children, the better off the rest of the world is.

>>513896580
That is literally not what those words mean in historical context.
Maybe you should learn to use your eyes to read what people are telling you so that you appear less retarded.

>>513897487
>in historical context
In revisionist history maybe*

>>513897264
Literally in the second amendment.

It's only one sentence long, I can see why it would confuse you.

If you care to look the founding fathers actually wrote down what they were thinking and the justifications for what they included.

Until you've read those, you didn't belong in the conversation.

>>513897381
rejoice!
>>513897389
just because it's the most populated one. 30% is VERY low
>>513897461
no not like this!

btw do you think picrel is a fed or a genuine american?

noguns here, does modern technology allow for reliable submachine zipguns, or does that shit still melt and explode?

Japan has gun control and it didn't stop their PM from being killed, because the killer just built a gun himself from cheap parts from a hardware store. 3D printing is also already a viable option. And the black market for guns will always be around. Gun control doesn't stop bad guys; it only stops law abiding citizens from exercising their God given right to self defense.

>>513897598
search FMGC-01 on odysee for a full-auto FGC-9 frame. easier than machining out a STEN pattern smg

>>513897206
>replies exclusively to the single retard and not the other Anons after being thoroughly schooled

>>513895141 (OP)
> 3D printed barrels
Wake me up for it.

>>513897598
Yes, very much so.

Even barrels can be made at home.

Hell, look up the Luty, an SMG a brit designed out of hardware store parts. He went to prison for designing it.

3d designs are great now, even better if you can get the non regulated parts

>>513895141 (OP)
Nobody gives a shit when you're worked to death and then have to drive at least an hour and a half from niggerville to the suburbs and don't have energy or time to train with guns or know anyone to train with.
Nobody does shit, least of all (you)

>>513897776
spoiler: you DON'T need a rifled barrel. a smoothbore barrel has the same ballistics as a rifled one under 50 meters, and you probably won't be shooting farther than that. sure your shit will keyhole but it will do even more damage like that lol
fgc-9 is perfectly reliable, the only thing you need is ammo. if you can get primers without a license you should make one right now
a 16mm OD 9mm ID pipes are available everywhere in the world

>>513895141 (OP)
their plan is to try and ban the distribution of printing files. never mind the fact that you'd have to do something like the great firewall on steroids to even have a chance at success

>>513896756
You don't, unless you have the ability to flood the world (with how many billions of people?) with firearms.

>>513897776
You done slept through it boy


Captcha: STR8G

>>513895141 (OP)
Unless it prints with metal, craftsmanship is still required. Doubt the price of metal printers will be affordable any time soon. Its game over for gun grabbers when replicator technology is released.

>>513895357
A "well-regulated" machine is one that functions well. So to, is a well-regulated militia. It means "functioning." [A functioning militia, necessary to the security of a free state, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed] sounds one hell of a lot more logical than [A restricted militia, necessary to the security of a free state, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed ] which is open-ended, not clearly defined, and sounds self-contradictory. Yet you dumb fuckers who think it means 'restricted' will bend over backwards to shove your head up your ass to try to sell others that it means this. Don't be retarded.

>>513897552
>A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Okay so point out where it says the purpose is for the people to fight against their own government. Because this more reads like the State (government) will be regulating its militias in order to bolster its security. Not so that the people can fight against their own state/government.

speaking of guns, I have a fetishe for ar 15s, am I weird guys?

>>513898125
slay brother! what do you think we could do about california? their tyranny is spreading and I think it's bad for America

>>513895141 (OP)
I have a machine shop. I care not for "Printers"

>>513898193
Ok so you're just an enemy of my culture and you need to be dealt with physically

>>513897945
Every anon needs to learn digital censorship circumvention, privacy and opsec, and download as many of these files as you can in case they try to shut it down and we need to keep them alive later

>>513895141 (OP)
They won't be. 3D printing is a lazy version of polymer fabrication, which is a settler science. You'd be better off casting a square mold of high quality glass filled polymer and putting it in a CNC machine to mill it out. You're not gonna be able to print with high quality polymer, you can only cast it in a mold which isn't even hard. People are just fuckin lazy. Anything they're 3D printing right now they could just cast in a mold and it would be stronger. 3D printing may only be useful for casting the molds to make real strong polymer items.

The whole fad is just lazy fucks, they don't wanna learn metal fabrication either. A gun is already extremely easy to fabricate, yet you see retards trying to print these ridiculous (and dangerous) toys. Just fabricate them with the proven methods. It's a fucking pipe and firing pin mechanism... we've gotten that inept...

>>513897058
I’m pretty sure that’s not how that law works

>>513899283
only like that in california. it's perfectly legal to manufacture guns for your own use (unless you plan to sell them as a business then you need an FFL)
california is a tyranny. how do we counter it?

>>513898771
>no argument
Lmao i accept your concession. I mean if you think about it, itd be retarded for the founding fathers to grant the colonist the power to fight back against their new government, given that at the time there were thousands of loyalists to the British crown on the continental US fighting against the revolution.

>>513898771
>no argument
Lmao i accept your concession. I mean if you think about it itd be retarded for the founding fathers to grant the colonist the power to fight back against their new government, given that at the time there were thousands of loyalists to the British crown on the continental US fighting against the revolution.

>>513899059
At least they've finally gotten off of the plastic barrel bullshit. I don't want these hand grenades anywhere near me on my range, frankly

>>513898193
Ok since your such a fag about it, let's break it down bit by bit.

A well regulated militia. A militia is an unorganized military group made up of civilians. Well regulated means in good working order. A well regulated militia therefore is a group of civilians that is capable of performing as a military unit.

Being necessary to the security of a free state, this is the part right here. A government that is oppressing it's people is not a free state. If they intended the second the to allow them to "bolster their own security" they would have said "state" not "free state" Also, your use of that argument, to bolster their own security just proves that not only have you not read any of the documents related to this countries founding, but you didn't have any interest in what actually is true, and will argue anything of you think it will let you win, but let's continue.

The right of the people, now this part right here is a great, because there is no ambiguity to it at all. There can be no other meaning for the people, it doesn't mean the state, it doesn't mean some vague collective right. It means the rights of each individual person.

To keep and bear arms, again no ambiguity. To have and carry arms. It didn't say muskets, it didn't say limit out to the technology of the time. They used the word arms, which is defined by the Cambridge English Dictionary as "weapons and equipment used to kill our injure people"

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, now this couldn't be more clear, there is no possible confusion. Again from the Cambridge English Dictionary infringe: to act in a way that is against a law or that limits someone’s rights or freedom

So taken as a whole, the government cannot restrict an individual person's ability to keep or carry weapons capable of allowing them performing the expected duties of a soldier because that person may need to over throw the government at some point

Mind you, I have the words of the founding fathers backing up my argument

>>513899388
the founding fathers weren't retarded bureaucrats who thought "well regulated" meant "government controlled" and you've had that explained to you multiple times in this thread. kys

>>513899532
>>513899543
how do we defeat tyrannical gun control laws of california?

>>513899463
Faggot the founding fathers literally just got done shooting their own government in the face.

They knew the only reason they were able to do that was because they had guns, faggot.

They also knew they had no way to guarantee that their new government wouldn't turn tyrannical, so they didn't limit the people's ability to shoot them in the face when they needed to be shoot in the face

Let's see what Thomas Fucking Jefferson has to say about it

>And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.

>>513899723
Challenge them, they can't stand against the standard set by Bruen and Heller.

Gun control lost, is been a while now actually. It just takes time to with through the courts

>>513896673
>I'm a gunsmith, it's easy.
making a barrel isn't easy. making ammunition isn't easy either. assembly is easy if that's what you mean.

>>513895141 (OP)
It's viable. Certain parts still need to be metal like the barrel but it's all mostly figured out. If someone can 3d print the whole thing then the metal parts aren't an issue to lathe and fabricate.

>>513899532
Im not questioning the part about an individuals right to bear arms and that it should not be infringed. That much is outright said. Im questioning wether this grants the freedom to fight against the government.

Free state means a sovereign nation, as in a nation that is not in the yoke of another like the British Empire. It has nothing to do wether its individuals are "free" or not. The other amendments outline the freedoms granted to its citizens, but none explicitly state that one of those freedoms is to overthrow their government if it is being oppressive. That language is in the Declaration of Independence, not the constitution.

As for well regulated it can be both things; that it is well supplied AND controlled by the government. Otherwise youd have roving bands of militias doing whatever they want which for a fledgling nation would have spelled disaster and the founding fathers knew this.

Also the right of the people to keep and bear arms, not to overthrow their government which is not included like the former statement. They should have really included that part if thats what they meant.

>>513900465
The barrel isn't that hard either, are you trying to make a sniper rifle or an SMG, maybe a small single shot to assassinate the guy with the rifle.

You are right about ammunition, but it isn't impossible either, brass is easy to work, primers would be the hardest part, but still not impossible, it's just chemistry.

>>513900044
You know Jefferson said this as a response to Shay's rebellion which occurred a few months prior. You know where disgruntled revolutionary war veterans who werent paid for their service and overtaxed citizens rebelled against the new US govenment in 1787.

The government and other militias put that shit down real quick, so much for granting your citizens the right to fight against tyranny. Anyways Jefferson said that quote as a response to British propaganda saying that the US was in chaos and about to crumble. Basically him saying that these kinds of things are normal.

I know it makes boomers feel warm and fuzzy inside when theyre taught propaganda that the founding fathers were such nice people that they encouraged their citizens to rebel if they turned tyrannical, the same people that had slaves and reserved the right to vote to the wealthy land owning class. But it makes for shitty policy in reality.

>>513900753
Then you haven't done your research. These aren't my own arguments, they come directly from the founding fathers and their peers

Tench Coxe in a letter to the Philadelphia Gazette, June 18 1789

> “As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.”

And James Madison from Federalist 46

> “Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of.”

>>513895141 (OP)
That shit will be filled with surveillance tech and you will receive visits from glowies for using them for that purpose

>>513900753
That actually isn't an argument against anything I said. There is still a mountain of evidence behind my arguments, from the founding fathers themselves.

Nice try though faggot

>>513895516
State militias aren't a thing.

The militia is every white male 17-45ish

>>513895328
Motorcycle gangs in Australia we're making cheap machine guns in garages too, with a lot less

>>513899388
>lmao I accept you-*BONK*

>>513902627
>That actually isn't an argument against anything I said

Because the intent isn't to have a serious discussion with you it's to make you waste time trying to reason with them while they kill you

>>513902307
>you will receive visits from glowies

>>513903653
Eh, I treat these as practice in case a normie tries to argue that shit with me in real life.

I'm not trying to convince the faggot, just making arguments for the people that might read this and haven't thought about it. Make that dude look like a fag, drop some references they can Google if they want to know more

>>513895141 (OP)
I've never understood the tacticool gun larping in the US.
To be able to flex with your Glock you'd need to see your target first.
Chances are, a well trained guy with a compound bow and plate carrier will take your Glock from your dead body and you won't even know what hit you.

>>513903939
>Eh, I treat these as practice in case a normie tries to argue that shit with me in real life.

Then you say the same thing in real life, "you're an enemy of my culture and I don't owe you an explanation, the only thing stopping me from clubbing you upside the head are cops and as soon as that's not an issue that's what I'm going to do to you.

>>513900196
The judges are corrupt. One judge tried to stand against it, demonstrating how ridiculous and vague the law is, and even he failed. Challenging in court is impossible, at least in those districts. It needs to go higher up.

>>513904586
You gotta learn to recognize the different between the true believers and the normies. You can lead the normies.

I literally just had a girl I work with message me the other day to day I red pilled her.

If I acted like you then she never would have seen the light, and now I'm gonna get her pregnant

>>513904774
That is good, that is what you want.


The goal is Supreme Court decisions

>>513902132
Interesting how Madison can spout this yet when Shay led his rebellion against the government they cracked down on it hard with the help of other state militias. I always felt the "well regulated" part of the constitution was added because of the rebellion; because the government did not want these happeneing across the country so they had to make the case these militias needed to be controlled by the state, and the establishment of the Army would help curb against this anyway.

>>513904586
Also cops aren't the only thing that would stop you from doing that, the glock I carry would be a deterrent as well.

>>513895141 (OP)
3d printed guns are boogeymen to technologically illiterate boomers. They don't have the tolerances to be anything more than an intimidation piece/glass cannon

>>513905253
Again, the reasoning for why things are in there is well documented.

They argued over the wording, they thought that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" wasn't clear enough, so they added the well tegulated militia portion to clarify why individuals needed arms

>>513905528
Lol

Shut the fuck up faggot, the adults are talking

>>513895141 (OP)
Didn’t new york make owning a 3D printer a regulated licensed thing? Lmao

>>513905132
>You can lead the normies.

Normies deserve the rope too at this point. After the way the acted during covid they've made themselves an enemy of me and they don't get to wake up now. 2020 was the deadline to figure it out.

>>513905357
oh so you're against guns but have one, curious

>>513905688
Which part of what I said do you have a problem with

never.
Trump is literally Hitler to these people:
Still want to be disarmed.

>>513896756
>>513897598
>>513897922
>>513897950
>>513898101
>>513899522
>>513900465
Considering the former pm of Japan was blasted in public with a black powder pipe musket set off by a hot copper wire, the idea that firearms capable of ambush attacks are innacessable to anyone has been dispelled forever. Obviously everyone wants more than a musket but the effectiveness of even that primitive weapon is still such that if 1% of the population of any modern country started ambushing people with them from alleyways that country would collapse in a month.

A YouTuber with the bizzare name Suckboytony created a fully plastic pump action weapon capable of firing 50 caliber projectiles with compressed black powder charges in disintegrating plastic hulls using electric ignition.
As for cartridge firing weapons
From the beginning functionally 100% plastic guns were viable for single shots with low pressure ammunition.


The cat is out of the bag. The only thing that stops a people from being armed is the desire to be armed and oppose their own government.

>>513905953
I never once said i was against guns. That is the only part I feel is explicitly clear about the 2A. I just dont believe the 2A implicitely gives people the right to own guns to rebel against the government, because that would be stupid for the founding fathers to do.

Furthermore its not something the US govt has ever honored in its entire history, even in the decades after the revolution when you had George Washington leading the army against citizwn militias protesting high taxes they never voted for.

>>513906177
3d printed guns are completely 100 functional and reliable. Especially here in the USA where the only related part is the frame.

Just because you are ignorant to the technology doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Faggot

>>513905528
A single shot pistol is more than enough to kill an individual, and if necessary an attacker could be carrying multiple.
We haven't evolved resistance to old guns.

>>513906177
>>513905528
Officer You can 3D print barrels now that’ll last for volleys. Everybody knows it, telling the kids it won’t doesn’t pursade or convince them.

>>513895357
>That means regulations on things like 3D printed guns are absolutely valid and not against the Constitution in the slightest. Neither is banning bump stocks or fully automatic weapons.
You could actually make a decent argument to that affect, particularly about 3D printed weapons and bump stocks. 3D printed weapons of insufficient quality have a very high chance of exploding in your hand. Bump stocks quite literally reduce the effective accuracy of a weapon by allowing it to shift in its furniture. On paper banning them for those reasons is valid.

Fully automatic weapons though? That's a tough sell, especially since most of them are select fire and can be adjusted to semi-automatic or to an engaged safety setting. Safety regulations are interesting because there's not a 100% uniform definition of safety. For example, Kahr handguns do not require a safety switch because they have a plate in the slide that prevents the striker from coming into contact with a loaded cartridge. The double-action mechanism of the handgun first pulls the plate away from the striker, then activates the striker itself.

>>513906510
All rights exist as threats of mass violence from the governed towards the government.

>>513906722
People are making rifled metal barrels, they have been for a while.

3d printing doesn't mean every part of 3d printed, it's just the easiest way for a non machinist to make a receiver/frame at home.

>>513895141 (OP)
I legit think the obsession mutts have with guns is compensation for their tiny dicks kek
Only country in the world where this is a thing

>>513906510
>I just dont believe the 2A implicitely gives people the right to own guns to rebel against the government


Well you believe wrong because they explicitly stated that's what it was for

>>513906958
Several times and in different places.

>>513906786
>3D printed weapons of insufficient quality have a very high chance of exploding in your hand.
You've done the statistics there I'm sure?

>>513906927
The reason I own guns is I have a fetish for liberals thinking about my dick

>>513906927
What a womanly thing to say lmao

>>513907119
You really think a resin handgun isn't going to crack after you run a few rounds through it? Use your brain.

>>513906913
Tell a noguns fag about fully plastic guns and they cite memes about the half plastic guns. Tell him about the half plastic guns and he pretends he's only heard of the all plastic guns.
Classic motte and Bailey shit.

>>513905226
>>513904774
https://youtu.be/ainmfS5dMnw
Here's a video of the judge in question, by the way. He's pretty decent and knows his stuff.

>>513898101
they'll just regulate the printers lol
you know what happens when you try to print a dollar bill using your home printer? yea same with guns

>>513907288
>A 3d printed plastic gun has a VERY HIGH CHANCE of EXPLODING IN YOUR HAND!!
>What you don't think that if you shoot a single shot weapon a bunch of times it won't take any damage?
And the goalposts shift again.

What would you say a very high chance is, 70%? 90%?

>>513907499
A 3d printer isn't some magical device no one can build any highschooler could make one in a week.

But really any highschooler could make a single shot weapon like the one that killed shinzo Abe in a weekend.

>>513907288
https://youtu.be/ouCQYf0hPN8

>>513907511
>And the goalposts shift again
You're a fucking retard. Every single round you run through it weakens the material it's made of. It can weaken, crack, or explode and not necessarily in that order. It's an inevitability, and the chance gets higher every time you fire it.

Stupid fucking nigger demanding exact statistics when there's multiple kinds of materials that can be used for 3D printing. Ignorant as fuck.

>>513902307
use it offline, and cover the camera if it has one. why are you so retarded? niggers do it all the time. Well its usually one nigger doing it for all the other local niggers. most niggers are too dumb or lazy to learn 3d printing even though its easy as shit these days.

>>513904478
>well trained
>needs a digital dot scope/range finder with leveling system
pick one

>>513907288
I'm literally a fucking gunsmith.

Do you even understand how and where the forces are distributed when a gun fires?

>>513895328
Guns really aren't that complicated. Lol. The fact they're glorified is comical.

>>513907943
>I'm literally a fucking gunsmith
and yet you seem to think polymers used in 3D printing don't deform when heated and subjected to explosive force

>>513908042
People have made ar-15 lowers or if 2x4s and a drill press.

It's a meme to make an ak out of a shovel if you hang out in the right circles, many people have done it

That's why the anti gun people are funny, they lost, they are just too stupid to realize

>>513907805
>Every single round you run through it weakens the material it's made of.
>Make single use ambush weapon
>Complain that it's single use
>Complain that if you use it wrong it malfunctions
>Make bold statistical claims then freak out when it's pointed out you have no evidence of a trend much less an extreme trend

>>513908098
Yeah, and you're a fucking moron. You know what you need to support the chamber of a low power zip gun? A ring of brass or copper. Even iron. Something anyone can get their hands on. Noguns moron. They're hilariously easy to make, so much so that dudes in fucking lockdown prisons have managed to make them. All you need is materials and tools, and to not be a total mouthbreathing moron.

>>513908098
You don't understand how guns are designed or hour they function.

You didn't know how guns handle those forces, but you are arguing like you do against people that actually do.

Why are you doing that?

>>513895141 (OP)
I have the exact same balance kek

>>513895328
You dont need milling machine to make some crappy submachinegun

>>513908098
Fully plastic guns are one time use, and when made at the scale that has been settled science for like ten years, they break functionally never on that one shot they're made for.

Partially 3d printed firearms which only use 3d printed parts to replace non pressure bearing parts function like regular firearms.

>>513908362
>Make single use ambush weapon
Your single use ambush weapon is still going to explode if it's not properly constructed of appropriate materials.
>You know what you need to support the chamber of a low power zip gun?
Something that ain't resin, jackass.
>>513908398
>Why are you doing that?
Why are you arguing that every 3D printed gun ever made is a perfectly safe object to use? Because that's what you're doing.

>>513907499
You can make a slam-fire shotgun with 2 metal tubes an end cap and a nail. All things found at the local hardware store.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9mr-o8QIlo

BTW they already tried to regulate 3d printers and it backfired on them miserably. So instead they got YouTube to ban all the 3d printed gun channels.

>>513908613
Forgot to quote this faggot's post number: >>513908373

>>513900465
Watch me reload those used 9mm casings with cap primers, homemade gunpowder and lead bullets i mold myself from car batteries using only vice
Yeah its eassy as fuck and it works (good enought up to 10 meters) so i can still kill your faggot ass with ease

>>513908665
And I literally told you what you need. Right there. In my post. And your retard nigger ass decided to quadruple down. Making ziip guns is comically easy and you only need 1 shot. That's the entire point. The fucking FP45 liberator was made from pot metal, and they still function today. There's even a fully 3d printed version that exists now. Shut the fuck up and get back to sucking your own dick.

>>513908613
>Your single use ambush weapon is still going to explode if it's not properly constructed of appropriate materials.
This is such a cop out it applies to everything, everywhere, to such an exaggerated extent that it renders your argument pointless
>It's arguable that you could ban plastic one shots because they blow up if you make them wrong and use them wrong
Fails as an argument because every gun blows up if you make it wrong and use it wrong. You want to attribute some kind of extra danger to a 3d printed gun like it's "more likely" but it doesn't exist. You build it to the appropriate scale or it blows up is a rule of every single firearm in history.

>>513908613
>Why are you arguing that every 3D printed gun ever made is a perfectly safe object to use? Because that's what you're doing.

What a fascinating thing to say, because I've done no such thing

I've argued that you are a faggot that doesn't know how guns work, and you have no idea how far 3d printed guns have matured

At no point have I ever remotely hinted at the possibility that every 3d gun ever is perfect, and if you think I have it is because you are fucking stupid

You aren't fucking stupid are you faggot?

>>513908796
>And I literally told you what you need
Yes, things that are not 3d printed. Well done. Fantastic. Good job.
>>513908816
>This is such a cop out it applies to everything
Congratulations you admitted I am correct in this post, the premise of which you are arguing against: >>513906786
>3D printed weapons of insufficient quality have a very high chance of exploding in your hand

Now fuck off you brainlet cunt.
>>513908885
>What a fascinating thing to say, because I've done no such thin
Yes you have, because you're challenging the above statement. Eat shit.

>>513903653
Excellent post, saved. Thanks for reminding me. Sometimes the gaslighting makes me forget.

>>513907644
people who got the skills to both build 3d printers AND make functioning guns with it that dont kill your self when shooting it could probably be counted by your fingers. If someone got those skills he's most certainly already hired and working for some company or the government, he's not gonna go around arming citizens

>>513908940
HURR DURR IT HAS A COUPLE EXTRA METAL PARTS, THAT MEANS IT'S NOT 3D PRINTED!

You are the dictionary definition of mentally handicapped. How are you able to breath manually?

>>513895141 (OP)
I used to be pro gun / pro 2nd amendment, maybe even zealously so. However since covid and plenty of nigger riots, I know that white men will not actually use their guns for any good reason.

Therefore all ownership should be restricted. They won't do anything anyways and they don't deserve the safety blanket and toy to fingerfuck. They will have to find some other way to cope.

Don't even argue with me. I lived in WA and saw "muh guns" rural conservatives meekly comply with everything King County (seattle) told them to do with their guns. Nobody will do shit. You don't actually care. Stop pretending.

>>513895141 (OP)
They already can easily be printed , the guns aren’t durable though , a small basic machine shop can make sub machines guns quickly / cheaply,
The ammo and primers are the hard part.

>>513905953
Because he’s jewish and he believes that he should have them but you shouldn’t.
>>513905357
No it wouldn’t, because we don’t strike second.

>>513909009
>UHHHHH AKSHUALLY IF YOU PUT PARTS IN THE 3D PRINTED GUN, THAT INTRINSICALLY MAKE ITS CONSTRUCTION OF HIGHER QUALITY, THEN IT WON'T EXPLODE!!!
Fuck off and die ignorant nigger.

>>513908940
Your argument is literally

> This is what I think, any evidence that shows I an wrong is invalid, because I'm a fucking stupid faggot

>>513908986
>counted by your fingers
that's awfully conservative

>>513909013
Shut up Jew
You will be dead before you even know what’s happening

>>513909095
You are literally asserting that all 3D printed guns are safe and will not explode. You are a fucking retard.

>>513909170
You won't do shit mutt.

>>513908986
We literally have multiple Gunsmith schools running full-time in this country

Guns are simple, any machinist would find them simple.

Guys like me can make them out of steel with a file and a vice.

Most of us don't work for the government. Most of us hate the government

You are just flat out wrong

>>513908613
>Why are you arguing that every 3D printed gun ever made is a perfectly safe object to use?
People who don't test what they make get what they fucking deserve, the world can do with less detritus

>>513909079
Thank you for proving everything I said about you with this comment faggot

>>513909286
Gunsmithing is one thing, it's replicating smokeless powder and primers, even basic black powder that's the hard part. If the supply chain failed and shit went out of control, soon enough, we'd end up returning to manual action black power firearms like levergats.

>>513909322
>People who don't test what they make get what they fucking deserve, the world can do with less detritus
Yes they do, but the point is that guns of shitty quality can very easily be legally regulated without infringing on the Second Amendment. I do not know why so many fucking people are challenging this idea.
>>513909347
Eat shit and die, retard.

>>513895141 (OP)
how the hell you gonna fire a plastic gun? shit would melt if you used it

>>513909271
>You are literally asserting that all 3D printed guns are safe and will not explode. You are a fucking retard.

Fucking stupid faggot, anyone can scroll up and check my comments to see that I never once said that.

Faggot

>>513909475
>I never once said that.
Then why the fuck are you arguing with me?

>>513909447
A lot of more modern guns use polymer furniture. Difference being they're made of materials that can endure heat and pressure. Some piece of shit that came out of a resin printer? Not so much.

>>513909429
>I do not know why so many fucking people are challenging this idea.
In my case it's an abhorrence of "for your own good" legislation. People will learn by word of mouth real quick which highfalutin zipgun is a finger-taker or a widow-maker

>>513908613
>but the (plastic) gun can bo boom!

Yeah that's basic barrel math.

>>513909767
>In my case it's an abhorrence of "for your own good" legislation
Good, that's fine. But for some reason I'm getting very angry posts from people that are arguing something entirely different.

>>513908940
>Congratulations you admitted I am correct in this post, the premise of which you are arguing against
>Decent argument
I've proved you can't make a decent argument on those terms, literally.

>>513909896
>I've proved you can't make a decent argument on those terms, literally.
I don't need to argue with retards misrepresenting my argument. You're the one committing the fallacy, dipshit.

>>513909507
Because of an the stupid shit you are saying you stupid fucking faggot.

3d printed guns are not dangerous, there are many 100% functional and 100% safe designs that are no different from commercially available products in terms of reliability.

You didn't understand what a gun is doing when it fires, where the forces are distributed, out what the different parts do.

You are building strawmen to argue against because you are a fucking idiot that doesn't know that there are things you didn't know.

We aren't in the days of the 3d printed liberator anymore. We're 3d printing machine guns with metal barrels.

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about, yet insist you do.

Fucking stupid faggot

>>513908986
Anyone with an IQ above room temperature can make a functional musket that doesn't explode.
Anyone with an IQ above 100 can make a cartridge firing weapon out of hardware store materials.

>>513909956
>3d printed guns are not dangerous
Blanket statement about all 3D printed guns
>there are many 100% functional and 100% safe designs
Followed by a restrictive subset of the objects being referred to. Inconsistent. Retarded.

>>513909286
ok would you trust using a 3d printed gun made by some random dude? with real ammo?

>>513909393
>it's replicating smokeless powder and primers, even basic black powder that's the hard part
You don't actually need smokeless powder or primers you jackass. Shinzo Abe was killed by a musket made from a fucking hair dryer and a pipe.

>>513909987
It will really blow their minds to learn that full auto is much easier than semi auto. Open bolt with fixed during long is really easy

The magazine of the hard part

>>513897264
Probably the part where you fought off the government and declared independance.

>>513909987
you say even kids can make these guns. Would you trust using a gun made by a highschooler? No questions asked just poiint and shoot

>>513910089
After I inspect it the exact same way I inspect any gun before I fire it, yes. This is basic gun stuff any person that shoots would do. Why don't you know that?

>>513909954
>You can make a decent argument for banking full plastic one shots because they explode if you make them wrong and misuse them
>"But that applies to all firearms, making it not a "decent argument""
>Reeeeeeee

>>513895141 (OP)
they are a meme because you can't print ammo

>>513910046
That is a general statement you stupid fucking faggot. If I meant all I would have said it, faggot

>>513910274
cause its fucking plastic garbage made by some retard in his garage and not a professional weapon made by people who really know their shit?

>>513909863
With American flags no less. Americans need not concern themselves with zipguns when there's over a century of real factory-made firearms in private hands, these things are for the absolutely fucked, and are still lagging in the home-produced ammo department.

>>513910338
Honestly in 2025 the quality difference in a garage gun and a factory one is shockingly small.

>>513910273
>you say even kids can make these guns. Would you trust using a gun made by a highschooler? No questions asked just poiint and shoot

That isn't something anyone would do, inspecting your weapon before you use it is something you would know if you weren't arguing from complete ignorance

Nogunz really should just stay quiet for these conversations

>>513910463
im not a nogunz nigga, go play with your 3d printed guns until you blow your face lmao i'll stick with real weapons

>>513895357
First amendment:
>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Obviously, this only applies to the printing press. Speech on the radio, on television or the internet are not protected.

>>513910338
That isn't a response to what I said.

I asked why you didn't know that inspecting your weapon is a part of safe weapon handling, and your response to that question was, and I quote

>cause its fucking plastic garbage made by some retard in his garage and not a professional weapon made by people who really know their shit?

Not only is that not an answer to my question, it is a stupid answer to a question I didn't ask. You wouldn't inspect it because it's shitty?

Do you think you are actually making effective arguments?

>>513910463
>Nogunz really should just stay quiet for these conversations
The thing is, nogunz is exactly the demographic that have use of these things. It's inevitable that some sub-room-temp IQ gets his hands on something for which he cannot begin to appreciate.
BUt with any luck, nature takes its intended course and he lives on in our hearts as a Fine Example of What Not to Do

>>513910719
Thing is, of they were asking questions I'd be bending over backwards trying to help them out

But that isn't what these fags are doing, so they get no respect.

>>513910281
>because they explode if you make them wrong and misuse them
Yes, as in if they are OF INSUFFICIENT QUALITY.

>>513910546
I'm literally a gunsmith, I work in the fucking industry. When I'm not fixing guns in teaching people to shoot them. You have fun cleaning your Glock, I'm making machine guns with my friends because we can

>>513895141 (OP)
they've been viable for years now. antigunners are retarded and will never fold because they have the not the courage of their convictions, but the dumbfuckery of their programmed "convictions" where they're incapable of processing any other info on sheer basis of being a fucking dumbass.

anyway, it doesn't matter, because in a year or so the files will be basically unobtainable due to regulation of the internet. we're either going to have to use some kind of i2p setup, cope, or find ways to share files hidden in other files.

>>513910697
its a perfect valid answer, i was saying i wouldnt know how to inspect some plastic toy made by a faggot like you, enough to be sure its "safe" . You understand? i know when real weapon is safe, you plastic shit? yea no inspection is enough for that

>>513911007
ok cool, just dont kill yourself or anyone. Im not against your toys, im against fools making toys. If you know your shit go ahead

>>513910352
But even then; isn't 3D printing just a really convuluted way of making a firearm? If i remember correctly the Luty can be made with hardware store materials.

>>513911195
*convoluted

Didn't have my coffee yet.

>>513911039
This is how I know you are lying, you are a nogunz

Gun parts are gun parts, of you know how to inspect them you know what you are looking for.

Again, just because you are ignorant of what the technology is capable of doesn't mean the technology isn't capable of it.

But lying to win an argument you were never going to win, that's kinda pathetic.

>>513911148
>im against fools making toys.
You shouldn't be, it's a great way to dispose of them at least by way of distraction, if not more permanently

>>513911263
i trust metal for high temperature. i dont trust plastic. Its as simple as that
>inb4 the barrel is metal
just build a real weapon then if you're alrady making your barrels lol whats the point of plastic guns again?

>>513911235
Yes, today's designs are basically the regulated part that you fit off the shelf unregulated parts to.

There are also designs like the Luty that use non gun parts instead

>>513895516
>well regulated mean well supplied
it seems that all of you are retarded and have no clue what the second amendment says or means. here's the real story for those of you that don't know or think you know (gay europeans/gay australians/gay canadians/retard americans):

1. all guns laws are unconstitutional, no exception
2. we the people can have any arm we want, no exceptions, and as many arms and as much ammo as we want. this means if we want 1000 AR-15s, an arsenal of machines guns, a nuke, an f-15, or a tank, we can have it. we the people shall be equally armed as the government. point 2 is limitless
3. shall not be infringed
4. there is no point 4

>>513911263
>>513911470
you said yourself in this thread that you know they are not 100% safe. Yet you keep talking like they are. See you agree with me and you dont realize it?

>>513911195
Plastic is easier to work with, so it's a give and take. Ultimately the majority of them metal or not suffer from an ammo problem.
If you can obtain even one bullet, sending it in the proper direction is fairly trivial... Easy enough to cast lead but you'll need more than that

>>513911444
The point of the government didn't need to know what we have.

The 3d printed guns we are talking about are literally just replacing the receivers and the rest of the parts are off the shelf commercially available.

There are designs that use only metal parts from the hardware store of you live in an area that doesn't have access to the off the shelf parts

There are methods to make rifled barrels that can handle 9mm in your homes with minimal equipment if you don't have access to those

There are designs that use hand made metal parts for when you are really desperate but have some skill.

They work hard to suppress this information, talking about it gets you banned from YouTube for example, but the information is out there is you know where to look.

>>513911663
NOTHING is 100% safe; "good enough" is of course the individual's prerogative

>>513896580
way to be completely wrong. Part of being well regulated is being organized, manned, armed, supplied, and all other logistical things. The 2nd amendment does not invalidate itself no matter how many times people like you push that mumbo jumbo.


And time has yet again proven that the PEOPLE being organized and armed really was the only thing stopping the bootlickers and elites from taking over, as we see in basically every country that is not america being forced to revolt to get their freedom back

>>513910442
so i guess then the military is gonna start using them anytime soon.. you know with the cheaper costs and being as effective. Oh wait..

>>513911663
>you said yourself in this thread that you know they are not 100% safe.

Ok, this is the part where I start calling you a faggot too.

Why do you faggots insist on putting words into my mouth.

Fuck your strawmen nogunz faggot

>>513897058
that isnt how that works retardsananon

>>513911758
if you got such skills and you're already making your rifling (you said you're a gunsmith) why would you not build a real weapon? why add plastic garbage to a beautifully made barrel? contact your local metalsmith and build that shit, what do you need plastic for?

>>513911890
>so i guess then the military is gonna start using them anytime soon.. you know with the cheaper costs and being as effective. Oh wait..

Bro really isn't up on his current events

>>513911890
>US Military caring about efficiency
Bro this is AMERICA. Might I direct your attention to the M7 rifle

>>513908885
>>513909475
>>513911897
with these two posts you're implying you know they're not safe. Stop being a faggot

>>513895141 (OP)
You would think, but no.
The retards will double down on trying to control the uncontrollable.

>>513911993
Maybe it's a hobby, faggot

Maybe I don't want the government knowing about what find I have, faggot

Maybe I'm testing out new designs and enjoying the benefit of rapid prototyping faggot

Why are you trying to argue about a topic that you clearly don't even have a basic understanding of, fucking nigger faggot

>>513912238
how would the goverment know if your local metalsmith built you the parts? its no different than printing it. In fact there's more of a chance the goverment knows about it with a 3d printer than the metalsmith, you know with computers and all that.

>>513912159
You don't even understand what we are taking about nigger faggot.

You lack the ability to follow a conversation you inbred faggot

>>513912238
every time you download some 3d model, the goverment could know about it. But they cant know if you talked to the metalsmith.Even if you designed yourself in your PC, they could know (cpu backdoors) Stop being retarded

>>513912334
I hope you love a long life, where you get to watch everyone you love die slowly from cancer.

Have the day you deserve nigger faggot

>>513912347
you were talking about the safety of 3d printed guns, same as we are doing. Why are you such a faggot?

>>513895931
Notice how the truth gains zero replies, but sperging out with some psyop garbage will make you the most popular kid in the room.

>>513912437
yea you ran out of arguments i can tell. The goverment definitely knows about your "hobby" retard. They wouldnt if you just kept it old school, but techies like you lack some fundamental part of the brain, but whatever you probably think youre so cool and hip lmao

>>513912501
You have nothing to argue against, you ignore everything and repeat yourself. You have demonstrated you don't even have the most basic understanding of the topic, regarding guns or the laws.

You are just a nigger, and the only thing left to do is insult you faggot

Kill yourself

>>513912238
>Maybe I don't want the government knowing about what find I have
>talks about everything he's doing on a literal glownigger honey pot website
you're not the brightest bulb are you

>>513912501
What is the difference in your opinion between a gun made by an amateur in a metal shop vs one made by an amateur with plastic? A faulty metal barrel is probably quite a bit more catastrophic than some disposable plastic

>>513912668
you got anger issues man, please dont go murder innocent people like you burgers love doing. Fucking fatass blob i bet you cant run a single mile and your dick is lacking its skin HAHAHA go vote for the next kike loving president you filthy rat

>>513912697
Literally everything I said is completely legal and above board. I have nothing to be worried about

And I'M A FUCKING GUNSMITH I'm already on the fucking lists, they know exactly what I do.

But you are such a fucking retarded nigger you didn't understand that rights are bigger than a single person, and anyone can do the things I do

Now, seriously, kill yourself

>>513912759
in both cases the fault would lie in the barrel, but i still trust more the real gun not to fail than the plastic crap. Simple

>>513895357
>bans on things are VALID
The purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to overthrow the government and kill traitors, should such actions ever become necessary. The endless cope and seethe cycle that faggot commies like you have with NRA boomer fudds is wholly irrelevant to me and everyone else with a spine and a working brain.

The people should be sufficiently equipped to fight their own government and win. That is the point of the law. The goal of the 2nd Amendment is to burn Washington DC to the ground and hang baby tyrants like you from lampposts. Yes, I understand why you would be terrified of that, because you are ontologically evil. But you're always free to move to some other country where evil is more throughly legalized, like Germany or the UK.

God blesses the deaths of the wicked. A righteous man kills evildoers when necessary. Phineas and his entire bloodline was made holy until the end of time because Phineas picked up a spear and killed two racemixers while they were fucking in their tent. This pleased God.

Good luck in the war to come, should you provoke it. Know that you will not win. Your wordplay is worthless, and your godlessness moreso.

>>513912843
then why do you need to "hide" from the goverment with your plastic toys? go make a real gun like a real man nigger
>Maybe I don't want the government knowing about what find I have, faggot
>Maybe I don't want the government knowing about what find I have, faggot
>Maybe I don't want the government knowing about what find I have, faggot
>Maybe I don't want the government knowing about what find I have, faggot
>what find i have
larping nigger detected lol

>>513910299
Suckboytony on YouTube designed primerless plastic case black powder ammunition set off by a battery you fag

>>513897058
Wrong, nigger.

>>513912849
An amateur-made metal gun isn't a "real gun" any more than the plastic

>>513903163
The national guard of a state is technically an organized militia. What your talking about is the unorganized militia. Both are technically militia.

>>513912849
>In so i guess then the military is gonna start using them anytime soon.. you know with the cheaper costs and being as effective. Oh wait..

The stupid nugget faggot still doesn't get it

>>513913036
still trust it more than the plastic
>>513913116
>uhh its about the goverment not knowing!
>literally downloads from the totally not monitored internet
>hooks up his 3d printer to the totally safe and not backdoored computer
you win the retard award today

>>513906339
I love the part where you said, "the cat is out of the bag." I just started imagining an angry cat jumping out of a bag it was confined in and booking it. Really funny.

Have a green frog.

>>513910944
>"But that applies to all firearms, making it not a "decent argument""

>>513913211
>still trust it more than the plastic
You might want to reconsider based on the following logic: A metal pipe-bomb is more dangerous than a plastic one.

>>513910089
>ok would you trust using a 3d printed gun made by some random dude? with real ammo?
You niggers trust rando dudes in toilet stalls to sell you brain altering chemicals in plastic baggies. Your incredulousness is deep hypocrisy.

>>513911148
Muskets are medieval technology and the solution to pressure isn't some magical spell it's "thicker pieces".

>>513913265
You do realize there are currently regulations on conventional firearms to that affect, yes? ATF shit their pants over zip guns.

>>513895357
HEEYY LOOK IN IN BAIT REPLY POsT!!

>>513913211
Again, you didn't even have the basic understanding of the laws for buying a gun, so you wouldn't understand the difference

Kill yourself nigger faggot

>>513912925
shut your faggot ass up and go buttplug yourself you fuckin crybaby

>>513913310
>the solution to pressure isn't some magical spell it's "thicker pieces".
To a point, but only if the metal is sound quality.

>>513913396
>everyone on the internet must be aware of gun laws in my country
i dont have to know any law, you said you dont want the government knowing what you have. While doing 3d printing. You already outted yourself with that, as the biggest retard here

>>513909170
dont give island jungle jeets attention
that is how they multiply
simply ignore and move on

>>513913382
Is the implication of your post, the gayest post ever made, that a government anti gun argument is decent, and that a similar argument is conferred decency by being similar to said government argument?

>>513895141 (OP)
no idea
https://youtu.be/6PTk_oCC2CU

>>513913422
a fucking leaf ! how's the jeet infestation going? smell any curry lately? HAAAHAHAHA

>>513913457
You can make a gun out of wood or paper or plastic if the pressure bearing pieces are thick enough compared to the pressure and caliber.

>>513913639
Jeet infestation > literal shabbos goy lunatic as leader

>>513913519
The things is sometime that knew the law would understand how it works, and the significance of a 3d printed receiver.

You didn't know, so to you nothing we are saying makes sense, because you cannot understand.

Now, kill yourself nigger faggot

>>513913717
whatever you say mr gunsmith, just dont kill anyone (i know you're dying to, all you sickos are)

>>513913659
Many materials are simply unsuited to the task, some materials are simply too hard. With enough material it's POSSIBLE but the lifespan and usability aren't there.

>>513895141 (OP)
USA was exposed 5 years ago
Americans just buy guns, they don't use them

George Floyd Riots
- innocent people beaten by mobs in the streets
- entire sections of cities and town taken over
- moving trains looted in broad daylight
- police stations burned to the ground
- streets and highways taken over
- restaurants destroyed
- stores ransacked
- cars set ablaze

this went on for months

police did nothing
the military did nothing
the government did nothing
and gun consoomers did nothing

>>513914099
Gun owners have gone to protect their own values.

Not rush to the protection of people with no guns, that voted to take away our guns, when the niggers they cuddled turn on them.

Gun owners aren't an entity you can call up to right your battle for you.

You want to fight your battle, buy a gun and start shooting.

Gun owners aren't going to lift a finger to protect Democrat cities from Democrat policies.

>>513897776
>>513897776
The fgc 9 has files to rifle "explosion proof" pipes. We solved that a long time ago. It also covers making the ammunition. The fgc9 isn't even the best complete dit print there is, there's the Urutau which is a bullpup 9mm and the rebel/rogue 9 series which is a much better build and solves the out of battery issues the FGC 9 had.

The entire system is diy, made by a kraut faggot like you.

https://guncadindex.com/detail/REBEL-9:f

>>513897598
i had a zip gun made on a high school metal shop lathe. guns are not complex but they can be a work of art. for all the gun fags, enjoy. this is is kino
https://youtu.be/qTy3uQFsirk

>>513914099
>this went on for months
So what I'm hearing from anti gunners is gun owners can't cross state lines but are expected to cross state lines.
Pick a lane.

>>513914099
of course, they never do anything. Its all about feeling powerful with their guns, feeling like a man. But time comes to use it? they cower in fear like the chicken shits they really are.
They'll never fight the government.
They'll never fight minorities.
They will grow old cleaning their guns while mulatto boys run rampart spreading chaos and mayhem. Its already happening.
Its all talk to seem tough, but everyone knows the dog that barks loudest bites the least

>>513914555
>It also covers making the ammunition.
As in making brass cases, or are we talking reloading

you Americans should do something about it like genociding all the jews and then kicking out all the non-whites in your country already
then you can rule the world and give all of us 2nd amendment rights
maybe by that time ammo can be printed already because every round of 5.56 here is 1$

>>513895141 (OP)
How many shots can those things shoot before they explode on your hands?

>>513913964
When I say that I'm referring specifically to a single use weapon.

>>513914501
You wont do shit, doggy

>>513914555
That simply can't be possible. I didn't know why you are arguing that any 3d printed gun ever made will always be safe forever and ever

I read an article 12 years to ago and I'm basing every argument I make from that, because I'm a nigger faggot and there is no possible way technology can advance, not in this day and age.

Any parts kits chads ITT? Just wrapping up my MK5 Sten.

>>513914809
I'll fuck your dad

Nigger faggot

>>513914099
not entirely true. there were entire neighborhoods with whites outside on the corners with their rifles and the iconic rich white yuppie couple that pulled a pistol out on the protesters on their lawn. it wasn’t the race war that everyone was hoping for but some gun owners brandished their arms in order to protect their neighborhoods. all in all it was a let down though. just shows how much control zog has over the nation

>>513910100
>Shinzo Abe was killed by a musket made from a fucking hair dryer and a pipe.
Well aktchually that was a muzzle loading shotgun. But yes that was interesting, particularly the electronic hot wire method of firing.

>>513914771
Out of a weapon where all the pressure bearing parts are made of steel? It's never going to blow up under conditions where a normal gun wouldn't also blow up.
Out of a single shot surprise weapon made of plastic or pipe?
How many shots did it take to kill poor shinzo Abe, retard?

>>513914787
Times are real hard when you have to use a glass barrel.

>>513914769
>give all of us 2nd amendment rights
You don't receive rights you take them when you win a revolution.

>>513914685
>As in making brass cases, or are we talking reloading
Do you know why most people don't make cases out of an extremely easy to work with metal? It isn't because it's difficult. It's because manufactured ones are that much cheaper. And that's because the metal in question is that easy to work with.

>>513914809
>y-y-you'll do nothing
>was richest country
>does nothing
>communists gain power because did nothing
>100 years of ultra poverty and brutal oppression
let me know when your country doesn't suck dick

>>513914908
They got their guns back with no repercussions. Just had to pay the lawyers. Get insurance.

>>513914989
that only applies to white people duh
non-whites in general are to low IQ

>>513914501
are you really trying to claim the only people, towns, cities, police stations, bank machines, restaurants, mom and pop shops, cars, windows affected in the George Floyd riots were Republican?
come on, man

>>513914917
>particularly the electronic hot wire method of firing.
Agreed, whatever gets people out from under the chemistry of primers

>>513915036
sounds like whats going on in yours, might want to check that mirror

>>513914964
As a scientific curiosity I wonder how thick that barrel would have to be for a low charge black powder shot, I'd wager over twenty times caliber.

>>513914905
i know you would, faggot

>>513915044
>They got their guns back with no repercussions
Amusingly they were also gifted guns. They did pretty well

>>513915115
What the fuck is with you nogunz faggots and your strawmen arguments.

That isn't what I said at all, not even remotely close to what I said

So why are you fucking retarded and unable to comprehend a single sentence

Fucking jeets and their 75 iq

>>513915267
Didn't forget St Rittenhouse bump firing his duel wielded machine guns into crowds of niggers from across state lines like a chad

>>513915118
>Agreed, whatever gets people out from under the chemistry of primers
Working with lead means you need to be very specific with hygiene... which you should be anyways if you're working with chemicals that rapidly release energy. About as scary as setting the headspace.

>>513897223
>"kept in good working order"
This, sad thing, that Americans not only don't know their language, also don't know their history

>>513915036
>let me know when your country doesn't suck dick
bro, 2025 will go down in history as the year the world learned that the USA and the 340 million Americans in it are owned by Israel (population 9m)
so maybe simmer down, m'kay?

>>513914836
Yeah that's pretty much the euro brown brain argument they keep saying over and over.

FRTs and suppressors are what is being made now. A 3d printed frame with a drop on forced reset device with a 3d printed suppressor and it all works pretty well, It is amazing what plastic can do.

I always found it odd that folks repeat the literal fuddlore of "it'll explode in your hand". The only failures ive seen is the frame cracks and then they just print another frame. None of mine have ever failed BTW.

>>513915147
>sounds like whats going on in yours
yeah? we're the single richest country on earth, so please explain which 100 years we were ultra poor? also explain where communists have taken over our country. last i checked trump isn't a commie, and last i checked trump is president. you're a giant fag and will explain nothing. i await your next post explaining nothing and providing a deflection or strawman instead.

>>513915487
>bro, 2025 will go down in history as the year
>canada bends the knee
yup, they just did. how does it feel to be owned by a king that is importing infinite dotheads and chinks? meanwhile we're mass deporting all non whites and also jailing them. how does that feel, _cucknadian fag?

>>513913602
No the implication of my post is not some faggot fucking narrative you invented in your head to argue against. Piss off.

>>513915639
yeah rich "on paper", see how fast the jews can pull the rug from under your feet. They already got your collapse planned and are moving to other bases of operations. Enjoy your soon to be 3rd world

>>513915639
we were never "ultra poor" either retard lmao
you are clueless about my country

>>513915987
>see how fast the jews can pull the rug from under your feet.
You could bomb us back to the stone age and we'd still have cooler stones than yours. Not sure how your threats can scare anyone.

>>513915987
>"on paper"
i and everyone i know has more money than you. so not sure what you mean by on paper, it's actually reality. do you believe that money isn't real? are you a retarded communist? you sound like it.
>something about jews
don't care. you're poor and stupid. keep making up excuses, fag.
>soon to be
nope, keep crying though :)

>>513916071
you live in a spic country, you're poor as shit. also argentina is like 98% niggers, so there's a very very high chance that you are a nigger. nigger

>>513915280
I'm not against guns at all. I'm pro gun.

but i know a country of full-of-shit frauds when i see them.

i think i do i get what you're saying
and I get the whole American individuals-before-country thing

but if you don't stand up for your own communities, what's the point?

what good is a country of individuals who don't give a fuck about what's half-an-inch outside their own property line?

>>513916202
>measuring in "money"
haaahahaha this is how i know im dealing with a retard, Yeah lots of money, how much do you pay for a steak? like $30? LMAO
how's that $2000 rent for a 1 bedroom in the middle of nigger infested shithole? how youre pollution going? you're falling to third world fast and now amount of dollar printing is gonna fix it. Even brazil has a brighter future than you.
Oh btw, i havent seen a nigger in like.. 15 years? can t recall HAHAHAHA

>>513916254
havent seen a single nigger in more than a decade. I think you mean "indios" which are a whole different race and quite tame compared to your gorillas actually

>>513916306
>what good is a country of individuals who don't give a fuck about what's half-an-inch outside their own property line?
Some of us were like 20 feet from the stuff you brought up
Half an inch.
Our country is bigger than that.

>>513916332
>how much do you pay for a steak? like $30?
nope
>how's that $2000 rent for a 1 bedroom in the middle of nigger infested shithole?
nope again, sounds like you live on the internet, you don't know prices here at all, you don't sound ok. you need to go outside, you're an extreme homosexual
>how youre pollution going?
lol what. it's just fine for a first world nation.
>you're falling to third world fast
all the worlds top companies and best technology doesn't operate out of third world shitholes like yours. you ok man?
>Even brazil has a brighter future than you.
this could not be further from the truth. they're run by socialists. have you ever been to brazil? it's a literal dump, kinda like your country.
>Oh btw, i havent seen a nigger in like.. 15 years?
go into your bathroom and look in the mirror, there's one right there. or maybe you don't have a bathroom in arGAYntina

>>513916306
>your own communities
So you admit that this is purely directed at the residents of the cities where this shit happened

>>513897058
No you don't you dumb fuck. Nothing I hate more than a confidently incorrect nigger.

>>513916619
ahahahah deluded trumptard, you cant see the forest from the tree. Your hero president is fixing stuff, all hail! hahah you're going straight to war you fucking retard, while tyrone rails your gf

>>513916759
>trumptard
uhoh, you've outed yourself as a giant pedophile homosexual retard

>>513916759
>you're going straight to war
Hey, I just noticed your flag. One of my fal rifles was mostly made by you guys. Good job! It's fun to shoot.

>>513914621
not an anti-gunner and i don't give a fuck about your gun laws
i'm saying the 2nd Amendment gicves you a right
BUT Americans have turned that into the right to consoom guns
you ACT like you'll keep your country the way it should be, with your guns
but you don't.

the George Floyd riots were the perfect test
and you guys failed

like 0/10

>>513908237
>That's why the anti gun people are funny, they lost, they are just too stupid to realize
Silly Liberals

>>513916891
>i'm saying the 2nd Amendment gicves you a right
the constitution doesn't give rights, you don't know anything
>BUT Americans have turned that into the right to consoom guns
nope. we have a right to bear arms, no matter what. shall not infringe

>>513916827
>if you're not a kike loving trump cocksucking fag like me you're le evil pedo democrat
this is the brain of your average burger lmao. Stick to your engineering and scamming people with finance, all you're good for
>>513916844
thanks, we got some talented fuckers here

>>513914579
>https://youtu.be/qTy3uQFsirk [Embed]
based
whatever happened to people practicing real crafts?

>>513916306
Because we don't want it to happen

If it happens it means that the country we love is dead, and now we are fighting so that whatever comes after has our values.

We aren't going to kick it off to defend the very people that would now be our enemies. You know the people that have been calling us the evilist people to ever exist for the better part of 20 years.

Don't pretend like there hasn't been a double standard in how the left and right are treated. The Floyd protests were celebrated, and the fucking CDC even said it wasn't a risk for COVID transmission. There was almost no punishment for the millions of damage done. Compared to the CDC in the very same statement saying it wasn't safe to protest lockdowns. And then let's not forget the blatant violations of the constitutional rights of the jan 6 protesters.

And I'll point out that protesting against the government is literally the way America was founded, it is the most American thing you can do

Destroying your own neighborhoods is just a riot.

So implying that gun owners would have helped is generally something someone that is trying to weaponize our own values against us, values that the liberal invoking it didn't share

>>513917024
you're gay

>>513914579
in my high school a guy turned a steel replica of the CN Tower.
it was amazing, easily the best term project in years --- and then the principal failed him because it was also a bong (this was before weed was legal here)

>>513916891
>not an anti-gunner
Neither are the anti gunners passing laws against gun ownership.
"I'm not against guns but there are some common sense laws that need to be passed, for the children".
Yeah, they also claim to not be anti gun. But they are anti gun.

>>513917024
Nigger faggot

>>513917115
you lack a foreskin HAHAHA
they cut your dick HAAAAAAAHAHAH
closer to a tranny than i'll ever be

>>513917013
>nope
so explain how Americans did fuck all while your country burned for almost a year.
you had the right but you were all too scared to exercise it, is that about right?

>>513917268
truth hurts doesnt it?

>>513917013
Me: i'm saying the 2nd Amendment gives you a right
>You: the constitution doesn't give rights; we have a right to bear arms, no matter what. shall not infringe

so where did you get this right, if not from the Constitution?

>>513917284
>prime minister locks your bank account
>arrests you for protesting
>does nothing
>can't fight back
>ruled by a king in another country
lol super _cucks

>>513917284
>so explain how Americans did fuck all while your country burned for almost a year.
>you had the right
but not the obligation.
Not everyone is a captain save a ho.
Did anyone there want help? I sure as fuck wasn't being asked to charge across the country to shoot people for other people. Especially if they didn't want that bloodshed.

>>513917409
>so where did you get this right, if not from the Constitution?
super retard. read a fucking book you idiot. the constitution doesn't give people rights. LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY
retard

>>513917409
It is an extension to the right to life.

Every person has the right to be alive.

If you have the right to be alive you have the right to defend your life with the best tool available.

Every human has the right of self determination, you cannot be free unless you possess the means to resist those that would impose their will upon you

>>513917370
Your father's asshole hurt when I was done with him

>>513917069
i think we mostly agree, but when i see people acting in an unacceptable way, I say something.
that's just how you maintain community standards; cuz once you lose a generally accepted way to behave, it's all lost

i believe many Americans would do the same
but with guns to back it up --- like the Rooftop Koreans, but instead patrolling the streets, letting people know it is cool to protest but you don't get to loot or throw public statues into rivers

imagine how different that would have been

>>513895357
Sorry bucko, good old tyrant Abe made sure we stopped being free states with his little civil war.

>>513917409
the rights of man in the united states don't come from a piece of paper. if you knew how to use google for even 1 second you could learn this. our rights are natural rights. we have them without any paper at all. and even if you change or delete the constitution we still have them. you cannot get rid of or change our rights. they are innate and inalienable

>>513917798
>imagine how different that would have been
I remember the call for help over the bundy ranch situation. I also remember there being NO call for help with those riots. Forcing your help when it isn't wanted is kind of rude. Even rude by Canadian standards.

>>513895141 (OP)
no, idiot. they'll demand that industrial equipment be bought through an FFL or some stupid shit.

>>513917797
Faggot, just for having such thoughts

>>513917798
Again, we just saw the Democrat cities suffering as a result of their own policies.

I didn't know what you are picturing in your head as what we should have done.

When we can turn right around and point the finger at you, what did you do when your government was freezing back accounts and raiding churches, you guys have guns too.

That is literal government oppression, not niggers burning down their own neighborhoods. Notice they stayed out of conservative areas. They knew the Democrat run shit holes would continue to coddle and make excuses for them.

We stood back and said we told you so.

>>513917858
said.. who? some philosopher? natural rights lmao. You gonna claim muh natural rights when a gun is pointed to your face? as if it made any difference. Its just silly words for silly men like you

>>513918097
Raped is about power not sex

Nigger faggot

>>513918273
Imagine being such a cuck that you proudly proclaim that you have no rights

>wait you cant kill me i got a natural RIGHT to live
LMAO

>>513918390
there's no such thing as a "right" you silly nigger faggot. Stick to your toy guns

>>513918273
and exactly that's why you live in a poor nigger shithole where you have no rights, congrats. you haven't read a single thing about american rights, or any countries rights, or i bet even your own. you're just a dumb little kid that is flapping his nigger lips. you have no rights and you can't even comprehend it

>>513918324
thats what every homosexual top says to themselves LMAO, you're still a faggot, faggot. Nothing will change that

>>513918273
>said.. who? some philosopher?
To be fair, the bill of rights is written as a list of things the government can't do, not a list of things we can do. The difference is subtle, but still there.
Look at the 3rd amendment. We don't have to quarter troops in peacetime. It isn't that they can ask and if we are feeling ballsy we can say no, it's that they can't legally ask. It isn't so much that the paper gives us a right to say no, it's that the paper limits their ability to intrude on our existing rights.

>>513918437
i have more freedom than you ever will in your police state . I dont need God or the govt to give me "rights". You're a clueless nigger

>>513918390
at first i didn't think he was going to be that much of a _cuck, but then he was. he's actually proud of having no rights at all. pathetic

>>513918525
and they can wipe their asses with such paper when shit gets real, as fast as you can blink. ANd people will scream but but muh constitution, the foundation! while hordes of niggers loot and rape and nobody does shit. Welcome to reality

>>513918437
To the caged bird, freedom is terrifying and incomprehensible

>>513918491
To be clear, I only rape your father

>>513918555
what is having a right? nobody is enslaving me, i can sleep how i want eat what i want work how i want. How exactly am i without rights? you're simply too stupid to understand my point

>>513912955
okay and that isn't 3d printing

>>513895141 (OP)
niggers hvae been 3d printing guns since like 2018

>>513918555
It's actually funny what you can get a stupid person to argue for when you realize that they are arguing from emotion

>>513895141 (OP)
Im holding your daughter at gun point for oral sex since she came for drugs ill give her my cock

>>513918536
>your police state
we don't live in a police state, but are definitely are arresting niggers like you, nigger
> govt to give me "rights"
once again, the government doesn't give us rights, fucking retard. read a book you illiterate nigger

>>513918640
>and they can wipe their asses with such paper
Which is why there was a call for help with that Bundy Ranch situation. Because they were wiping their asses with such paper.

>>513918748
Try to keep up with the conversation before commenting you utter fucking imbecile

>>513918790
look at this shit, it's unreal levels of stupid: >>513918692
this retard is definitely underage

>>513918790
your "rights" mean SHIT when angry MEN decide your life is over. Understand , nigger? Might be the government, might be your neighbor. When violence comes, the paper is void. All contracts are void. They were just words after all, not reality.
>nooo but my rights!
>gets shot
just like in soviet times, they had rights too you know, natural "rights" lmao

>>513903939
I appreciate the effort, as someone who enjoys reading through such arguments

>>513918844
i said God or the government fucktard, you know you faggots claim your "natural rights" come from God himself, you disingenous faggot so dont play fool

>>513911515
100% factually correct. It's only those faggots that like to pretend the Constitution is a living breathing document that magically changes to mean whatever is hip and cool in the (((current year))) to either invent new rights or strip old ones away.

>>513918932
>When violence comes, the paper is void. All contracts are void. They were just words after all, not reality.
"Some people mistakenly think the locks on my door are for my security" line of reasoning. That isn't just your country. Lots of people are like that.

>>513918852
they killed everyone and nobody did shit, great example of you faggots in (non) action lmao

>>513919040
>they killed everyone and nobody did shit
Odd. I don't remember dying. Are you dead?

>>513895141 (OP)
Nigger

>>513913041
When the second amendment was wrote, the national guard didn't exist
And is us code, the militia is clearly defined as what I said
Eat shit, commie

>>513918932
No child, my rights mean that if men want to come and kill me they have to put their own lives on the line to do it.

They have to weigh killing me and their children having a father.

They have to weigh killing me against the tears of their mother.

You can't possibly comprehend what it means to be a free man, little boy

You are nothing but an insignificant little bitch, just hoping someone stronger doesn't come take what they want because they can

Fucking worthless cuck faggot

>>513919040
LMFAO, Bundy won idiot

>>513919074
i mistook it for that other scenario where a family was murdered by the feds. Sorry im not up to date with your latest armed conflicts, seems you have a lot of them lately. Must be all those guns 'protecting' you lmao

>>513919194
>if men want to come and kill me they have to put their own lives on the line to do it.
uhhh just like, every single time in history? before the word "right" even existed?
what did the concept of "right" change with respect to this? you really are this dumb