Thread 513902190

>Soviet Union
Too many Jews.
>every other communist country in existence
Dependent on Soviet handouts. Except for China which let Jews in.

>>513902190 (OP)
well it did work

>>513902190 (OP)
Well, yeah. That's National Socialism

>>513902190 (OP)
bolshevism=judaism

>>513902190 (OP)
It worked in north Vietnam the Yankees lost

>>513902190 (OP)
The need for ism's is completely made up by jews in the first place. Its a D&C tactic. The fact of the matter is each nation ( race ) does fine for 1000s of years as long as they aren't around to fuck it up. You can call it socialism if you want or communism. But its really just a nation surviving the way they know best. Taking care of their own. The jews disrupt that.

No. Giving full control to the government is a big mistake.

>>513902190 (OP)
>Could Communism work if there were zero jews involved?
Yes, you're talking about the Soviet Union under Stalin after the 1930s when he went complete schizo mode and got rid of all the Jews still left in Eastern Europe and banished the ones that remained to a bumfuck republic in the Far East. The Soviet Union was also the joint most powerful country on the planet and created White ethnostates in Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, and every other nation in the Warsaw Pact as well as the Western SSRs.

>>513902190 (OP)
China is winning so yes it can work

>>513902190 (OP)
authoritarian regimes are good for collective action and stability
they get out competed by more open societies who innovate faster usually

the soviet union minted currency top down centralized which disposesses the worker, having only gosbank is terrible too
ownership and a stake in something motivates investment and sacrifice, even without the price problem you got the issue of the tragedy of the commons

I'm very interesting in what hjalmar schacht did in germany, the GDR couldn't even make proper helmets due to degraged metallurgy. Communism is offensive to my sensibilities as a german each time I see the things they produced.

Feminism was terrible too.

The fundamental problem with communism is the same reason why the US had civil war

>>513902190 (OP)
There will always be Jews involved because Marx and Lenin were Jews.

>>513902951
There was also the fact that the GDR didn't have Prussia or Silesia and also didn't have the entirety of West Germany including the Rhineland

>>513902190 (OP)
No. Communism simple is not a reality. There are two kinds of communists, the utopians who believe they won't have to work after a communist revolution and the mentally challenged retards that actually think a team of bureaucrats will efficiently manage your life for you to minimize personal anguish.
>>513902790
>ethno state
I always love this propaganda considering racialism has literally always been the enemy of communists. They accidentally created an ethno state by creating such shit living conditions that nobody would even risk illegally immigrating to their shitholes.

Aside from that they were super pro immigration and diversity in all policy and speech.

>>513902190 (OP)
>could something invented and used by the jews work without the jews?
No.

>>513903104
no, this is systemic everytime I see GDR HELMETS I START TO HATE COMMUNISM

>guise communism is like based and racist like nazis
>so why not become a nazi
>fuck nazis racist piece of shit die!

Every time.

>>513903217
they send vietnamese to east germany

>>513902190 (OP)
No.

>>513903365
just answer the question

>>513902190 (OP)
Communism under a singular white ethnicity will basically reduce to a typical monarchy... would look like england or something like that.

communism without jews turns either into national socialism or monarchy

>>513903217
The USSR stopped preaching Lenin-era communism the second Barbarossa began. The USSR turned from a globohomo union of nations to a Russian empire that destroyed its enemies and created a giant sphere of influence in Europe. The only reason East Germany is right-wing and less replaced than the West is because of 50 years of Soviet influence. The most religious place in Europe is Poland, under 50 years of Soviet influence.
>Illegal immigration
Stop implanting 21st century American problems to 20th century Eastern Europe. Stalin deported the brown Tatars to Siberia and turned Ukraine into a white ethnostate. Poland became 99% Polish and stayed that way until becoming part of the US sphere. Likewise with Czechoslovakia.

>>513903456
I've already answered the question. No, communist literally believe value is entirely based on labor. LOl. Of course it wouldn't work.

Who needs jews to ruin your country when you have retarded leftists running it?

>>513903456
The answer is no, communism still doesn't "work" even without jews.
The truest, purest, most thorough implementation of communism was pol pot's cambodia, and leftists hated him.

>>513902190 (OP)
Just get a job you lazy Jew

>>513903691
Ah yes. I remember that, the day the USSR started to genocide all of the asiatics and muslims in their country. Oh wait, that never happened and moscow is almost as muslim as the UK now.

Give me a fucking break, Stalin himself was a literal cuckold that jerked off to bbc movies.
Care to explain why ever USSR propaganda poster is ethnically diverse and supports women in the work force?

>>513902190 (OP)
Giving up personal freedom in lieu of state slavery is a bad choice no matter who is behind it. Communism is mere evil midwits taking advantage of very low IQ low morals morons and get them to get them into power before then severely beating them for the favor. The most significant way to tell if someone is evil is they are over educated and favor marxism, the most significant way to tell if someone is stupid is if they are under educated and favor marxism.

>>513903987
>Genocide all of the Asiatics and Muslims in their country
I just told you that they genocided the Tatars.
>Stalin himself was a cuckold blah blah blah im an american i cant shut up about bbc
Yeah, and Brezhnev's first thing he said to Margaret Thatcher was 'how to ensure the survival of the White race'.
>Moscow is almost as Muslim as the UK now
Moscow was over 90% Russian, not including Ukrainian or Belarusian, until the Soviet Union fell, then the Russian percentage began to collapse. Furthermore, you still haven't disputed that Poland and Czechoslovakia were 99% White ethnostates. And not just ethnostates, Poland was 99% POLISH. One of the most ethnically pure countries on Earth.

>>513902190 (OP)
Maybe if data science gets advanced enough, but central planning is dysfunctional at best

>>513904367
I've already disputed why they were ethno states, they were poor shitholes nobody wanted immigrate too.
If you're concern is white nationalism then be a nazi or white nationalist. Economically communism is retarded and thats before all of the leftist gay faggot nigger loving bullshit which you will never actually truly deny.

>they did genocide the Asiatics
So why do they still exist? Why do jews still exist in Russia? No, they didn't move back after the fall, they were always there. The answer is simple, communists are not serious about their race or people. They view race as a distraction.

Communists are literally the ones who invented the term racist lulz

>>513902190 (OP)

Depends on “works” I guess.

I hate to sound like a boomer but I think communism is ridiculously utopian. To the point where I think it’s crazy that intellectuals and otherwise smart people believe in it. The idea is that in communism once everything is centrally planned and everyone’s needs are met and there is no more oppression that means eventually the police will disband because there will be no more crime and prisons will be abolished and the state itself will ultimately completely dissolve itself because it won’t be needed anymore. My view is that no matter who you involve it will probably never work.

On the other hand it *can* work to an extent. I don’t think they will ever actually achieve full communism but the USSR, North Korea and other states functioned or function to at least some extent. Even if it was sub-optimal. They built militaries and space ships and did manage to do at least the general basic function of a state (building roads and apartments and so on).

>>513906293
The thing about that is its not even communism though. Functionally, once you reach a state such as North Korea, its not communism its just an authoritarian government. It no longer has anything to do with economics.

This concept that communism is a spectrum is so fucking retarded. Its either communist or its not and its never going to be communist because that is literally impossible to achieve. This is why communists are so retarded and dangerous because they believe they can achieve a Utopia by implementing shitty ideas that fuck everyone's lives up.

insert that qoute about the greedy tyrant vs the moralistic one.

>>513906004
>this entire chain of 80 IQ brainrot
Flyovers shouldn't be allowed on the internet desu.

>>513906714
>no argument
You're entire country flag is a fly over nation you stupid fucking shill.

>>513906805
>nooo u!!!
Oof.

>>513902190 (OP)
>Communism
>Zero Jews
Pick one, memeflag retard.

It just turns into National Socialism like in China or North Korea, other places. Transnistria. Finland is essentially Communist, twas fully infiltrated for the whole Cold War. But they remained staunch National Socialists.

>>513902190 (OP)
any system would work in a high trust homogeneous society
all barbarians were basically communists before coins got introduced to them