Thread 513911940

>trying to stealth advertise your shitty fashy etsy grift
kys fgt

>>513911940 (OP)
Fuck your Twitter
https://www.foxnews.com/us/2-men-claiming-police-shot-killed-homeowner-authorities-say

Don't mess with texas

>>513912017
lol seething kike

>>513911940 (OP)
to be fair they usually dont try breaking in with 2 guys

>>513911940 (OP)
God bless America. Cops are gonna need to call in advance to serve a warrant in Houston from now on. Or show up with SWAT, but that gets expensive.

>>513911940 (OP)
The home owner was unarmed, the 2 fake cops shot first, home owner got his gun and kill those scum bags.
Texas don't fuck around

Real pigs usually show up in tactical gear to serve warrants.

>>513912160
>had a ring camera
Doorbell cameras save lives

>>513911940 (OP)
personally i wish they were really cops. maybe when they return to arrest the homeowner

ok but what was the firearm?
did the rounds penetrate the body armor or were the fatal wounds inflicted elsewhere?

>>513911940 (OP)
what's the implication of the comment on the bottom?
>guns are actually bad still though
???

>>513912716
ar15 with green tips goes through fed body armor

>>513912160
>LT KHAN

>>513912161
amen

>>513912789
retarded no guns nigger

>>513912161
amen

>>513912867
wat? so you disagree? why?

>>513911940 (OP)
I understand how he knew they were impersonators. Houston PD wouldn't be caught dead actually doing their fucking job.

>>513912716
Head shots are pretty effective if you’re close enough.

>>513911940 (OP)
>Houston homeowner shoots first and asks questions later

>>513912160
>https://www.foxnews.com/us/2-men-claiming-police-shot-killed-homeowner-authorities-say

>>513913049
>I understand how he knew they were impersonators. Houston PD wouldn't be caught dead actually doing their fucking job.

fuggin hearty KeK't

>>513912944
/k/ tourist here. All 5.56 will easily defeat IIIA soft armor. Plates - hard armor - are tougher. Green tips only defeat polyethylene Level III plates because of the steel core. They are no good against steel or especially ceramic. Steel plates lose to M193 or varmint projectiles because of speed. "III+" ceramics beat both and need M855A1, a better designed steel penetrator, to beat. There are also higher III+ ceramics able to beat M855A1. Examples, Hesco 3411 or LTC 19513. III+ is an unofficial rating and can mean anything. Then you have Level IV. You cannot defeat Level IV ceramics with 5.56 unless you are shooting M995 black tip out of a 20" north of 3,350ft/s. Even then that's v50 territory. Military ESAPIs revision G onward are good for M995 @ 3,400. Realistically you either need tungsten core 7.62x51 like M993 @ 3,050ft/s (XSAPI threat) or Swiss P AP.

>>513913401
so aim for the head? that was my orig plan anyway

BOOM HEADSHOT

>>513911940 (OP)
To any non-nigger/low IQ type it's obvious the police wouldn't send just two guys to do a no-knock night raid.

>>513911940 (OP)
obligatory based.

The real story is two faggots pretending to be cops/feds came up and tried to rob the homeowner. Feds don't let you know they have a warrant, they just door kick you, as do competent cops. The whole 'FBI WE HAVE A WARRANT' is kike media bullshit; why the fuck would LEOs ever want you to have the upper hand when their job is to figure out when you're bullshitting them?

If you don't know someone and they're trying to break in, you shoot them; end of discussion. If they ended up being cops or feds, GOOD. Shit officers of any kind have to go, because mediocrity is what incentivizes them to become compromised. Maybe if more terrible LEOs go good ones can get brought on who don't just bend the knee to jew petrodollars or jewish hegemony like most do these days.

>>513911940 (OP)
so they were imposters...
https://youtu.be/6PTk_oCC2CU

>>513911940 (OP)
Zionist Copes from Dissident Soaps.

>>513913498
Aim for the pelvis actually. It's a larger target, contains the femoral arteries and enough of the spine to secure rapid arterial bleeding and immobilization permitting follow up headshots, and is less armored. Helmets not rated for rifle threats on occasion will still deflect a round or two because of their geometry. Military ACHs have defeated 7.62x54R this way. Now rifle rated helmets like the RCH and ECH are in play. M855 will pop them but the hit needs to be square.
Pelvis armor exists but is either IIIA or very bulky 6x8" rifle plate carriers. Chinese outfits have IIIA skirts that cover the entire femoral area, along with 10x12" full size pelvis carriers, but they aren't used professionally outside of Russian desperados buying shit off Aliexpress.
Also figure out how to deal with shields.

>>513913941
Shoot a guy in the dick?

>>513914023
Yes. Shoot their cock off with a 10 gauge shotgun and magnum 00 buck. Bag both femorals.

>How did you know they weren't cops?
> I didn't
WTF?

>>513913401
What's the lightest level 4 plate available to purchase these days? I remember seeing something that was a combination of ceramic and poly and I want to say it has some kind of metal too?

>>513912824
So is he Chinese or Japanese?

>>513911940 (OP)
Of course they were imposters. The black skin is a giveaway.

good on him for not relaxing. literally that simple

>>513911940 (OP)
place your bets: two dead spics or niggers?

>>513914254
Actual lightest from a reputable manufacturer is the Hesco 4800. It's thin on drop foam though and will drop the ball if it's harshly conditioned - see Buffman test. Lighter than that is the Dayton RF3, but their armor generally runs hot on backface deformation in test reports, and the Armor Forge MK-VII, but that's a literal who. The Hesco 4800 has seen use with the FBI. It's trustworthy.
If you aren't concerned about harsh handling the Protech 9812-R1 is a technically superior plate with better multi hit (5x BZ API versus like 2-3).

Ceramic + poly + metal sounds like a plate with a crack arrestor, probably the 4.4lb Ceradyne Defender 275. Note, that is NOT a Level IV plate. It is rated for 7.62x54R B-32 API - lesser threat - once or 2x 7.62x39 BZ API. Same rating as SOCOM's LTC 28590, LTC 28595, and the new, superb 4.38lb LTC 28570.
If a Level IV plate is BELOW 4.7lb, it likely has an undersized strike face, reducing the actual coverage zone from 10x12 to 8x10" or even 6x8" for the really egregious ones.

>>513913401
Touch some grass incel

>>513915359
no u

>>513911940 (OP)
>Imposters?

>>513911940 (OP)
Based. More dead zogbots please.

>hey brah we da poeleece and shieet. Open da mutha fucking doe. We gots a warrant.
So I just starting blastin'

>>513914283
Dirtynese

>>513914254
Chinese ones for $150

>>513912716
Those armor plates don’t really cover much area. If they even had plates

>>513911940 (OP)
He noticed it was dark out but they weren't glowing. Terry saved this man.

>>513915772
American Blast Systems has a 4.5lb for $350 but it failed straight up in a youtube test and they had to legally threaten the uploader.
>>513915886
What matters is that they cover the vital organs you need to hit in order to secure rapid incapacitation and maximum blood loss, absent the head / neck. If these fuckers are on drugs the situation will get nasty.

>>513912716
>>513915886
Body armor is ONLY intended to protect your heart and lungs, so if you are shot you can make it to medical care.

>>513916063
See Mike Day case. Guy got shot more than a dozen times, lived because the plate protected his organs and the rest of the wounds could be handled by medical.
There is also a case of an IDF soldier withstanding twelve 7.62x39 to an oversized 15x16" full-torso plate, but he got lucky and those kinds of plates are not commonly sold.

>>513913401
Even if it doesn't pen, if you get hit it's still gonna rock your world right?
How many rounds to incapitcate, with lvl IV.

They were imposters,what is the problem?

>>513912160
>turned them into meat pulps with a well placed grapeshot cannon load
just as the forefathers intended

>>513916245
No. It's your reaction to the bullet that knocks you down. Been that way since this video was recorded in the 1980s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QBjOio_sds
Now of course the NIJ does permit backface deformation up to just below 44mm in depth. That's not fun. However, a cracked rib will not reliably incapacitate someone. A bruise will not reliably incapacitate someone. Adrenaline and drugs will keep bad guys in play. You have to either hit the CNS or bleed them out. The former is faster than the latter.
>how many rounds to incapacitate
Depends entirely on the plate. Note that NIJ is NOT linear. Level III plates are rated to defeat 6 7.62x51 M80. Level IV plates at minimum must only defeat 1x .30-06 M2AP. They do not need to pass the Level III test.
Anons have tested very poor Level IV plates like the RMA 1155 and found they lose to .308 on the second hit. Better plates like the Hesco 4403 can handle at least three. Ditto for military ESAPIs or XSAPIs. Hesco 4601 can handle the full six.
For 5.56, double those numbers to account for lesser crack propagation across the ceramic strike face. Half a mag is not practical to best a Hesco 4601.
Now what you CAN do is concentrate hits. If rounds hit next to each other, they will only face already-compromised ceramic. For the 4601, you need to land hits within <2" of each other. Good luck.
Other than that, pierce with tougher ammo or practice pelvis shots. The latter is the most practical solution. Brute forcing armor is just clumsy.

>>513916993
Thanks to the info, I guess it makes sense since the bullet impact will always be less than the recoil.

>>513916245
>if you get hit it's still gonna rock your world right?
I've primarily heard the experience described as like getting struck with a hammer.

>>513917498
No problem. Newton's third law strikes again. Keep in mind there is only one recorded case of excessive backface deformation killing someone. That was a .45-70 to Level IIA soft armor many years ago. The US military, as of a few years ago, raised BFD limits on VTP ESAPI / XSAPI plates to 58mm from 44mm to save weight.
A guy called L. Cannon wrote a seminal paper on behind armor blunt trauma. Basically, the only area where BABT generally gets nasty is if you're getting hit with .50 BMG. There are plates able to handle that, but it's a matter of scaling the strike face and composite backer to the threat and accordingly they're heavy as hell. See Adept Colossus Heavy - note that's a prototype, Ceradyne 80571, and the newer (late-90s) Ceradyne discussed in that paper.

>>513911940 (OP)
SUSSY BAKA

>>513911940 (OP)
Boomers are literally exploding trying to justify both sides of this

>>513917682
Keep in mind there's a massive performance range when it comes to armor. Poor performers will exhibit higher BFD and greater blunt trauma than higher quality plates. There's a lot of garbage armor out there because this is the one thing that you'll never know if it works unless you destroy it. The vast majority of armor never gets shot. Ergo, the vast majority of armor will never be tested. Stick to what's on the NIJ compliant product list and you'll be okay within the limitations of the standard.
https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/equipment-and-technology/body-armor/ballistic-resistant-armor

>>513912716
It wasn’t a bunch of niggers claiming verbally that they were police. They were wearing shiesty’s and presumably clothes which were not police uniforms

>>513911940 (OP)
That's pretty mediated mudder he should of waited till their cocks were inside him

>>513912017
ive been looking for a new soap vendor. thanks for pointing that out, kike.

>>513912160
"ayo dis da muh fuggin poleese"

>>513911940 (OP)
>texas
oh that explains that then

>>513911940 (OP)
guy i was in county with smoked a deputy doing a no knock w/no lights or sirens and got away with it. still went to prison for the weed he was growin but he killed a cop, claimed self defense, and got away with it. supposedly he posts on /pol/ too.
>The subject who shot him was initially charged with capital murder, but a Grand Jury returned a no bill on the charges based on the suspect's self-defense claims. The grand jury indicted the man on felony possession of marijuana while in possession of a deadly weapon, and in April 2017, he was sentenced to 19 months on the drug charges.
>https://www.odmp.org/officer/21892-sergeant-investigator-fredrich-adam-sowders

>>513912160
They actually fell for the leftist meme of people won't be able to tell if you're ICE or not.

>>513920158
he was lookin @ lethal injection while we were in county, i was lookin @ north of 240 months. 3 years later after bullshitting them for extra time b4 trial with doctor notes galore 12 jurors voted not guilty

>>513911940 (OP)
he'll probably be charged with a crime anyway

>>513915359
Any proper /k/fag will touch grass regularly at the range. Then will it with some lead.

>ring camera
>no footage online
Gay

>>513911940 (OP)
It would be nice if all home invaders dressed up like police and got shot. That way the police will stop thinking they can get away with being home invaders.

>>513911940 (OP)
When the imposter is sus!

>>513920366
Eh, it's Texas and he's got cam evidence on his side. Castle doctrine will likely stop the police from bothering since it's a guaranteed lose in court. Especially since these were ski mask imposters, so no one currently knows their race.

But Houston is controlled by libshits now, so there might be a globohomo angle they could try either via race or ICE shit if these were illegals. Any way they cut it, it will backfire and they lose in a Texas court though.

>>513912281
If the police want to investigate you, they'll have glowniggers pick locks while you aren't there.
If they know you're armed and home, they send SWAT.
2 dudes aren't gonna show up saying "this is the cops" and try to kick the door down.

>>513911940 (OP)
Anyone breaking into my home is getting fucked up, I have a doorbell they can use if they want to chat on live stream though.

>>513911940 (OP)
You can tell thy are impostors because they had a warrant.

>>513920686
>But Houston is controlled by libshits now
Ehh, it's been worse. That dumb nigger Turner fucked the city up proper as mayor, at least Whitmire is White and interested in actually governing instead of grafting. And anyway as I recall the homeowner was Hispanic (and dark, not like """White""" Zimmerman) so they can't play the race card. There's no way to feel bad about this story, a couple nigger home invaders got gooded.

>>513913498
armpits or legs

>>513920158
>guy i was in county with
"surely this is a veteran and he meant in country with"
>keep reading
nigger

>>513911940 (OP)
Finally a good story that isn't some fag European getting raped or stabbed by so Arab nigger.

proud of my neighbor.

>>513912017
>>513912175
dissidents soaps is some kiked maga zogbot though. shady fucker that one.

>>513922286
On a scale of 0 to 1, how Jewish are you?

If cops have a warrant, they aren't going to be polite and say open up. They'll just kick your door in because they are literally covered by the warrant to begin with.

If they are sitting at your door asking questions or trying to be invited inside, they don't have a warrant and you can and should tell them to fuck off and get one.

Good on the homeowner for seeing through their stupidity.

>>513922816
depends, here in Houston you can get a knock or no knock warrant.. if it's no knock it's probably swat. the real trick is to ask them to pass ID or the warrant under the door. If they fuck up I'd just go silent and take up a position incase they start trying to break in. Call 911, shoot first ask questions later it's your life or theirs.

>>513922816
>Cops door kick all warrants

Shhh fucking child..you clearly don't know a thing about this country

Don't tell people how you think things work you are a child

Ah so all this time, migamutts could use their guns
So you were just okay getting cucked all this time then

>>513912160
>>513912597
Wait how does it work, did he see it in real time or something? Cameras just record stuff so you can pull it up later?

>>513924024
and you sir are.. british

>>513922433
lol stupid kiked magat faggot

>>513913401
hescos are dogshit armor and have failed NIJ tests. military grade, yes i know, is possibly the best armor you can buy, because the standards are higher than NIJ
https://www.apexarmorsolutions.com/product-page/two-ltc-28534-esapi-rev-j-multi-curve-level-4-plates-mil-spec-esapi
for those looking for good armor you can buy new, or look for strike face plates on ebay

Try that in a small town

>>513923463
If cops aren’t kicking your door down they’re mailing you a letter telling you to appear in court.

>>513925818
You're not helping your 'argument' here, kike. This schizo behavior is how I am absolutely sure you're a Jew.