Thread 513934060

Wooops, looks like Russia won't make any ceasefire, negotiations or peace treaty as long as Zelensky is there.
Then why did /pol/ spam for years that it was Zelensky who didn't want to negotiate and was pro war?

>>513934060 (OP)
Ze has refused all Rassia's demands. What's there to talk about?

>>513934060 (OP)
Zelensky has no interest in negotiating in good faith. He still insists on reparations and on no territorial concessions.

>>513934060 (OP)
>Then why did /pol/ spam for years that it was Zelensky who didn't want to negotiate and was pro war?
Because it is also true.
Both sides want war, killing whites will not stop until all whites are killed

>>513934137
why not give him tbe polonium dildo or backstabbing umbrella?! russia isnt what it used to be

>>513934212
You don't realise who Ze works for and who the mark is in this play.

good
glory to russia

>>513934060 (OP)
>Then why did /pol/ spam for years that it was Zelensky who didn't want to negotiate and was pro war?
These things are mutually exclusive. Zelensky can be both illegitimate, and a warmonger who doesn't want peace. In fact, not only are these things not mutually exclusive, they're mutually supportive if anything. Why? Because Zelensky's personal survival depends on this war continuing. He has no interest in it ending, because the moment it does he will either have to flee the country or he will likely get killed by someone. The only way he can remain in Ukraine and be safe is he holds onto power and has the Ukrainian security apparatus dedicated to protecting him. The moment he loses power, he loses that protection, and he's cooked. That's why he doesn't want this war to end.

>>513934060 (OP)
>For years
Presidential elections were supposed to be held in 2024. Hence they only consider him illegitimate since then.

Also of course Russian demands will change depending on the situation on the battlefield, you fucking retard. At the start they wanted to evade this fucking messy attritional mudfighting. Now that they actually sunk six digits worth of corpses, they want a big Pobieda preferably by taking territory and installing some Kadyrovchuk on throne in Kiev.

>>513934316
>These things are mutually exclusive.
I meant to say "are not".

>>513934060 (OP)
because this board is overrun with bots and russian shills.

>>513934386
t. NAFO bot

>>513934137
>>513934060 (OP)
Russians still imagine that they can interfere in the politics of other countries. This is just a power play to show that Ukraine is not a independent but that Russia determines its politics. Still millions of Russians need to die for them to actually want peace.

>>513934316
This was originally about Putin, but just changed in Russian troll factory. Putin can only exist as long as this war continues. After that he's gone.

Zelensky can't be replaced as it is forbidden by the Ukraine's law. New president can't be elected as long as they are at war. Russians know this and this is once again just a power play. Russians do not want peace, they want war.

>>513934060 (OP)
Seems like a response to him kvetching about never surrendering and wasting all the european leaders times, for a peace summit he never intended to approach with honesty.

NATO will never allow ukraine to surrender, war will not reach a conclusion until ukranians are breathing.

>>513934060 (OP)
>Be Zlonsky
>ex comedy clown
>Came to power through Kolomoisky
>Got bought out by the anglokikes
>Is an illegitimate kike dictator in Slavic lands for some reason

>>513934658
>Spit on drafters, throw garbage at the drafters, vandalise the drafters possessions, fuck the drafters wife and daughter behind his back, pour sand into drafters engine, puncture drafters tyres, piss into drafter's fuel tank, throw eggs and flour at the drafters windows, cause an insect and rodent infestation at the drafters property, spread disgusting rumours about the drafter. Never assist the drafter in anything.

>>513934060 (OP)
The surrender will only be signed by a russian puppet president.

To the last pole.

>>513934869
No, you double nigger.
Stafanchuk (the megapigger orc dude) is the legitimate ruler of Ukraine right now.
His signature and a ratification by the Rada is enough.

>>513934523
How's the weather in Tel Aviv, memeflag?

>>513934212
The funny thing about Zelinsky is that he's a Russian jew. Before he ran for president he didn't know how to speak Ukrainian. They had to send him to a special school to get him up to snuff in Ukrainian.

>>513934316
Didn't his wife quietly get arrested for trying to flee the country to some safe asylum?

>>513934060 (OP)
Sergay I fucked your daughter Jekateryna. What a disgusting whore.

>>513934852
the real career is to become a drafter so when you reach drafting age you won't be drafted

>>513934060 (OP)
/pol/ got Pavlov'd. Now they get into a fit of rage whenever they see anything related to Ukraine.

>>513935007
Eat your burger and go to work goy. You will do what we say you do.

>>513934137
I'm gonna kick down your front door and take over your entire house, but I'd be willing to just settle with the living room and kitchen. Deal?

>>513935486
they actually made a choice.
First they voted for zelensky, then zelensky picked war over peace.

>>513934316
You're a major faggot and a zigger larper desu. Russia should be nuked off the planet.

>>513935400
>Eat your burger and go to work goy. You will do what we say you do.
You tell me to support Ukraine, and I'm not. It is clear you don't want Russia to win, therefore I'm going to support Russia. Simple as. Eat shit, kike.

>>513935565
Another seething jew. I denounce the Talmud!

>>513935565
>You're a major faggot and a zigger larper desu. Russia should be nuked off the planet.
There's one and only one country which should be nuked off the planet, and that country is Israel. Good thing Trump's bunker busters failed to stop Iran's nuclear program.

>>513934319
How exactly do you have a fair election when large portions of your country are being invaded by an enemy? If China captured several states, how could you know they wouldn't be plotting to subvert your election?

>>513934060 (OP)
monke couldn't wait to stab in the back his army and surrender Russia to his westoid 'partners'. He and his judeopositive court have probably got the memo from the military that they are going to be couped if they try to do that.
So they have rolled back to more reasonable positions on the spot.

>>513935685
>an enemy
Your tribe are the enemy of all mankind, Moishe.

>>513935593
Jesus gave me a handy through his hand holes and you're still a bigger faggot than that

>>513934137
So? Russia didn't go into the war to conquer territory so these are not unreasonable terms.

The longer this war continues the better it is for the Europe and the rest of the West. I hope negotiations fail.

>>513934060 (OP)
I mean Ze is a puppet wanna be oligarch like the rest of em. If you fight for him, you may as well be fighting for a fat Jewish pig. But it doesn't matter because a lot of this "world leaders" are just that, faggots.

>>513935728
No one is bigger faggots than your tribe of baby dick suckers.

>>513935746
Uhmmmm....

>>513934060 (OP)
and none of these are legitimate, they're enemies of the soviet union

>>513934060 (OP)
Zelensky is legal president by Ukrainian constitution, it doesnt change even if some other nation with rigged elections spread repeating lies about Ukraine constitution and its president.

Russia havent had fair elections during past 30 years, its Putin who is not legitimite.

>>513935486
Is his house right next to yours, and he's holding your family hostage in there, and there's also a bunch of niggers inside who are constantly threatening you?

>>513935547
>they actually made a choice.
>implying that hohols have a say in who governs them

>>513934060 (OP)
super funny rusnigger projection as always
putin took a giant shit on the russian constitution and they just dont care cuz they are slaves

>>513934316
>Because Zelensky's personal survival depends on this war continuing.

Another trustmebro. There has been no sign or reason why Zelensky need to be president nor that he want to be one longer than needed.

All this is just typical Russian propaganda to weaken Zelensky position and try to get more pro-Russia leader in Ukraine.

Anyone falling for this propaganda is complete retard or rusbot

>>513935746
Conquering territory wasn't the main goal, but Ukraine will be ceding land if there is to be peace.

>>513936000
>Zelensky is legal president by Ukrainian constitution
That's just, like, your opinion, memeflag senpai.

>>513936000
Who has had fair elections recently?

>>513936246
limit of presidential terms in the russian constitution status?

>>513934658
Is nato based now?

>>513934060 (OP)
are you paid to be a fucking retard, or do you do it for free?

>>513935486
>I'm gonna kick down your front door and take over your entire house, but I'd be willing to just settle with the living room and kitchen. Deal?
You already did this with NATO expansion. What Russia says is that it will keep slaughtering your allies until they agree to fuck off and secede Russian home back to Russia. Faggot natoshit bitch, LMAO.
>>513934523
Memeflaggot nafotroon bitch insect roach kikes still think that they have leverage on Russia to dictate what it can or can not do, LMAOOOOOO
WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT GLOBALIST BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITCH
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>513934060 (OP)
I mean what's the point?
From the very beginning, russian side has said:
*no NATO membership (funnily enough, top NATO politicians have said that ukies never had the chance anyway and this whole promise of NATO membership is just a tactic to rile them up)
*demilitarize
*current lands under us will stay with us, stop opressing russian population in your country
*UN peacekeeping troops on borders and not NATO ones"

That's it. There haven't been any changes to those demands and every other month western media starts shouting how they're "totally gonna negotiate, for realz this time" and when russia repeats their demands, kikes start crying how russia doesn't want peace even though ukrainians are the ones saying 'no' to those terms. Ukrainian side knows there won't be any changes to these demands yet they still perform this stupid ass play every 2 months. Pisses me off.

>>513937174
>funnily enough, top NATO politicians have said
They also said no NATO expansion tot he east, yet here we are. The subhuman natofaggot globalist rats have only two states of being: lying and dead.

>>513937174
you have to go back

>>513937361
you have no german DNA :/

>>513937386
Either reply with something substantial refuting what I said or stay quiet, you're not doing yourself, or your NAFO buddies, any favors by acting like a disingenuous prick.

>>513937361
>"But why would countries want to join NATO??"

>>513934316
>>513934060 (OP)
zelensky will flee to israel

>>513937471
>Either reply with something substantial
You going back is substantial.

>>513935565
We should nuke Israel instead, would be much more productive for humanity

>>513934060 (OP)
zelensky is jew. can't negotiate with a jew

>>513934060 (OP)
How's the Sino-American proxy war going?

>>513934060 (OP)
That war is just going to have to go on for several more years. I pretty much knew this already though.

>>513936957
go back to your country, vlad

>>513935685
Regardless of how, elections are supposed to take place, and this is according to the Ukrainian Constitution. It is a judicial matter.

>>513937386
And you should go back to Volgagrad you disingenuous fuck.

>>513934060 (OP)
Cowabunga it is then.

>>513937174
Miks su elamisluba pole ära võetud veel, türastunud tibla?

>>513937676
>1 pbtid defending random estonian rusnigshill
now be a good boi and make it two.

>>513934060 (OP)
Its been known for years now that Ukraine either accepts all demands or the killing continues until they do, Russia will eventually force them to accept their terms anyway

>>513934060 (OP)
But according to Russian constitution, Pooptin cannot be president since 2008.

>>513937705
Tõmba oksa end, ebard
Mul on kopsakas palk niiet ma maskan sinust rohkem sellele riigile ja mul on õgius sittuda meie valitsuse peale

>>513937386
>>513937405
You have to squeal louder.
>>513937476
>"But why would regions want to join Russia?"
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO GET FUCKED NATOSHIT BITCH KEK

>>513937618
Go back to faggot mass grave, subhuman amerishit faggot.

>>513937717
Here’s my problem with the unchecked arrogance from you slithering little worms - you’ve never earned the sentiment. You’re just boorish assholes who take contrarian opinions, regardless of the moral ramifications of said opinions. Knowing my country won’t do shit to stop Russian expansion into Europe, I hope your family and friends get raped and dismembered in front of your eyes. I hope you’re forced to watch, or even participate against your will, as those so called honorable men lay waist to your culture and what little stability was afforded in your life prior. Knowing you fags, you’ll probably try to offer up your mouth or asshole to every Russian soldier just to stay alive. I hope you get degraded and abused. I hope they drain every last bit of pride from your soul. Fuck off, you deserve no kindness or further pleasantries.

>>513938106
Angry hurensohn

>>513938243
>Squealing amerishit mutt

>>513934060 (OP)
If you could talk to Russians, you wouldn't need to rack up 2 million kills.
There won't be any agreement until either Putin is Gaddafi'd by chechens or until Moscow and Pidorsburg are flaming ruins.

>>513934523
> Russian troll factory
Zero proof they ever existed, troon shill.
It was just propaganda from Hillary.

Genuine question for Russians in this thread: Is Russia controlled by jews like the USA is?

>>513936000
Zelensky took a giant shit on ukraines constitution when he illegally fired 3 constitutional court judges mid term.

Plus he disbanded parliment so NATO countries could install pro war puppets

>>513938489
Why ask when the only narrative you’ll ever accept is that the Jews control everything but you?

>>513934137
If he makes any territorial concessions the hardliners in his government will murder him. Hes fucked until the Ukrainian front starts collapsing and it hadn't collapsed yet, Russia is still just making small but steady incremental gains.

>>513935486
This is precisely what Israel did to the Palestinians and your faggots zonist government won't stop sending Israel billions of tax payer money

Zelensky was actually the first to say
>I dont like how thecelections went
>do over
This spread to europe

Of course Russia won't make a deal and only comes up with a lot of nonsense.

This board is a proof of that. A bunch of welfare degenerates of no importance in society who think they understand geopolitics, micro and macro economy, and at the same time, have zero brains to make money at all. They are so useless that the best thing they can do is to just end their lives (and luckily many do so).

Thats also why they swallow the russian propaganda. Its created for the low IQ subhumans. Its just to take a look at the commentary section of RT. Its so funny to see how fucking stupid people really are.

>>513935565
Someone's butthurt

>>513934060 (OP)
Prove that's not an orc

>>513938829
When was that?

>>513938840
RT never told me white people going to church are democracys biggest threat.
The russian collusion hoax was the biggest propaganda operation in history and the western media were all in on it.

Everyone reported it, except RT. So they banned them in europe for being too honest.

>>513936074
I talk to hohols, they actually went ahead and voted for the clown.

>>513934060 (OP)
Well he blocked the elections, he's illegitimate

>>513938966
As soon as he got elected

>https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/20/ukraine-president-zelenskiy-dissolves-parliament.html

>>513938700
Why not it's the same narrative being pushed against the huwite

>>513934060 (OP)
russians and their supporters are bunch of mindless monkeys

>>513934060 (OP)
that is great! zelensky announced basically that the war will not end until he says so.
ruzzia and kraine are already on the same wavelength
to the last ukrainian!

>>513934060 (OP)
Andriy Yermak holds the power in Ukraine.
Even if Zelensky would be told to step down and refuses to run in fresh elections Yermak would still be driving the same policy because its so financially profitable, and thats regardless if the anglo parachutes in their puppet Zaluzhny.

>>513938489
Israel is controlled by Russian jews

>>513938970
RT is trash. Just like any russian news outlet. RT was banned for that simple reason, trash. Anyone who thinks Russian news are the real news are the people I am talking about.

And no. The russian collusion hoax is far from the biggest propaganda operation in history. But of course, you have a president with the brain of a 5 year old

But of course. A goon who thinks russian troll factories never existed is a dead beat regardless.

>>513938071
but you have no german DNA
>>513938183
i didnt read that sorry. russians are subhuman.
>>513938243
the person you are responding to does not have german DNA

>>513939267
It was proven in court faggot. Concord media showed up for a trial after they indicted 16 companies and the DOJ could not produce one scrap of evidence.

You will never be a woman

>>513937405
Actual Germans have it imprinted in their DNA what happens when they fuck with Russia.

>>513937174
>split your country, give us a large slice, isolate yourself from the rest of the world and be at our mercy until the end of time. In return, we will stop bullying you
Great diplomacy, ivan. Its disgusting how the stupid ukrainians do not accept these more than benevolent terms. They must be insane

>>513939066
Oh fuck off, that white knight shit is so lame and transparent. You want be special. You’re not special anon, you’re just the status quo. You’ve given up all agency and standards to shadowbox invisible Jews.

>>513934658
this. the west wants to prolong this war as much as possible. macron and steir are eager to send french and british cannon fodder into ukraine. at least based salvini told macron to fuck off.

Peace talks are a waste of time.
This war will be decided by who can keep going longer.
Before it plays out discussion are meaningless.

>>513939480
They lose the war, millions of people, but still end up surpassing Russia?
Why is it? Are germans superhuman or russians subhuman or a combination of both?

>>513939494
They had 8 years to accept a simple "don't kill Donbass people and allow them some autonomy to have their own language preferences". But Ukrainians are niggers and we're emboldened by western support. The terms are obviously much worse now.
The problem with faggots like you is that you do not take into account all the important details that led to current situation - you just describe current situation as it exists in some sort of vacuum (your mind has no capacity to include more). A certain sign of low intelligence and nigger genetics.

>>513934060 (OP)
5.580 of nuclear warheads are attached to every claim Russia makes.

>>513939759
>They had 8 years to accept a simple "don't kill Donbass people and allow them some autonomy to have their own language preferences"
the violence in the donbas was massively going down, with like 12 people dead in 2021. this is according to russian numbers. the war on ukraine has killed over a million people already.
i thought russians and belarusians were good at math. are you stupid or a shill?

>>513934060 (OP)
I don't know about Lavrov but Putin usually says that Zelensky's signature means shit and if there's an agreement, it should be signed by their parliament or some shit, it is a formality but is should be legally correct. It has nothing to do with making negotiations.

>>513939464
You just talk low IQ degenerate language. You dont even know how your own court system works. And its because you are the degenerate I am talking about. Welfare degenerate with no future and dependent on someone to take care of you because you are a nobody.

>>513939774
russia constantly lies about its capabilities, so who knows how many you actually have and how many actually work.
we do know however, that only 2 need to get through to end the russian problem forever.
so be careful what you bark at, dog.

>>513939774
Usa and russia didn't build nukes they just pocketed the money, the same thing they did in the space race.

>>513939814
>but is should be legally correct.
this is a complete joke considering the fact putin is ignoring presidential term limits.
russias own government isnt legally correct. why should anyone care what they say is legally correct- its a kangoroo court.

>>513939660
Becoming Turkish/Arab colony is considered "surpassing" now?
Maybe in fake gdp metrics. But as we can easily ascertain from current conflict - rentseeking economy giving big numbers from is not equal to real economic output.
Not that you would understand, as you are basically from New Dubai.

>>513939797
Thats because everyone moved away from the front lines, retard. Ukraine started shelling again 20 days after Biden was elected. Russia invaded 5 days later.

>>513939660
a few good decades after WWII doesn't make germany godlike or superior to anyone. germany's best years are over now and the next few decades will show just how deeply it can dive into shit. be excited for
>social system collapse
>collapse of the entire industrial sector
>civil unrest/civil war against violent rapefugee communities south africa style
>appearance of a (white) communist dictatorship to protect the browns
>???? probably a german spergout somewhere down the line

>>513939878
Austria is not a NATO member. I have nothing to say to you.

Zelinski can't have it both ways.
It's either in the arse or the gob.

>>513939797
Post those numbers. I want to see your sources on those claims.
>shill
Says a nafotranny.
Ukraine violently mobilizes and sends unwilling millions to die. Surprise - they die. Its Ukrainians job to stop their government from sending them to certain deaths. They are a democracy after all.

>>513939878
You really are a lying shitbag

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/russia-alters-constitution-to-keep-vladimir-putin-in-power-until-2024


MOSCOW — The Russian parliament approved a sweeping constitutional reform in the third and final reading Wednesday, a move that will allow President Vladimir Putin to stay in power for another 12 years after his current term ends in 2024.

The Kremlin-controlled lower house, the State Duma, endorsed a set of amendments to the constitution and a provision resetting the term count for Putin after the revised constitution goes into force. It passed by a 383-0 vote with 43 abstentions, and was approved by the upper house, the Federation Council, several hours later.

A nationwide vote on the proposed amendments is set for April 22.

>>513938985
Sure, they chose him out of the panel of pre-approved kosher candidates, but at the end of the day Ukraine is nothing more than an American colony.

>>513939267
Where should goyim get their news, Jens?

>>513939834
>You dont even know how your own court system works.

You are a faggot paid to be here
Prove me wrong
Oh wait you cant

>>513939649
>This war will be decided by who can keep going longer.

So, Russia. But we already knew that.

>>513940012
>Post those numbers.
>you nafotranny
>you XXX
you behave like a dog. did your father not parent you properly?

>>513935486
Exactly what you did to Mexico in 1848, you hypocrite.

>>513937511

Worse place for him to be.
He has a suite of apartments in London and a villa in Florida. He is at those places 95% of the time.

>>513940147
My father taught me to respect those who deserve respect. NATO dogs like you are not deserving of it.

>>513940240
He bought an apartment in UAE in that tallest building in the world. Saudi journalists reported it

>>513934060 (OP)
Just wait till there are no Ukrainians left. Problem solved

>>513940324
IS THAT NATTY???

>>513940258
Your father was a drunken slavnigger that didn't pull out in time

>>513940147
And those are only civilian deaths
Obviously most have fled already and had their homes destroyed previously. And yet soldiers kept dying because Ukraine kept shelling. Dishonest asshole.

>>513940485
Don't care about opinions of sons of coal burners.

>>513934060 (OP)
>won't make any ceasefire, negotiations or peace treaty as long as Zelensky is there.
That's not what was said.

>>513940533
And if you look at the deaths under Trump it was over 90% from mines and unexploded ordinance. He stopped the shelling. Soon as Biden got in the hot war started again.
Proving this was supposed to have started when Hillary got elected.

>>513937662
>and this is according to the Ukrainian Constitution
According to Ukrainian constitution, it is illegal to hold elections during the wartime. So anyone elected with such elections would be even more illegimate than Zelensky

>>513940713
Putin has said that before though.
He was like
>we didnt march all the way to Berlin just to leave the nazis in power

>>513940730
I don't think the dead nor their families care which asshole was in charge in USA. Most people know that it was USA who poured billions of $$$ since 91 into Ukraine which led to all these events. Most people know who supplies Ukraine with weapons and targeting data.

>>513940850
Where does the ukrainian constituton say they can kidnap people off the street and force them to fight at gunpoint?

>>513941022
Funny thing is, vanning actually illegal in Ukraine. Technically. But so is draft evasion, so the kidnapped hohols have no recourse anyway.

>>513935565
Someone's butthurt

>>513934386
Okay kike.

>>513941022
Where it says that defence of the motherland is the duty of citizens of Ukraine.

>>513940533
>And those are only civilian deaths
Of course- it was about protecting Civilians, wasnt it? Or are you saying The Ukrainian Army bombed Russian soldiers who were on Ukrainian soil? Because thats their job.

>>513941266
What are they defending? The "occupied" areas want to join Russia anyway.

>>513935728
You're a kike faggot. Nothing worse than that exists.

>>513941361
Who said that? Sham referendum organized by FSB puppets and criminals?

>>513935685
the US did it during the civil war with way less tech and way more niggers so don't give me that shit
Z is just a tyrant dictator warmonger (tho some may so there's a lot of niggers in Ukraine now since the war widows do need SOME dick after all)

>>513934060 (OP)
Zelensky faces growing resistance in the Rada, and this should not be happening in war times but it does. He might soon be ousted from office and subject to prosecution for corruption and maybe even mass murder. We know that he will flee the country. Why would Russia rely on a deal signed by him? Ukrainians wouldn't consider themselves bound by it. I sure wouldn't.

>>513941442
It's not hard to see why Eastern Ukrainians want to join Russia when you take a look at how they've been treated by the Kiev regime in recent years.

If the referendums had been held with western observers, I guarantee you the results would have been the same.

>>513941361
>t. would support giving Texas, California etc to spics
If they want to live in Russia/Mexico so badly, they can go there

>>513941497
Ukrainian law explicitely forbids elections furing war time.

>>513940850
Yes which is why the Rada is supposed to govern the country right now.

>>513941605
They weren't treated any worse than west Ukrainians, stop drinking putins piss. The whole idea of "east is treated badly and wants to join Russia" is sham, invented by Russian propaganda.

>>513941631
>>t. would support giving Texas, California etc to spics
I've long been of the opinion that the US never should've taken land from Mexico, but that's beyond the point.

But it's funny you say that, because the US took those lands from Mexico by conquest. So I guess you think it's okay when we do it? Russia has much more of a claim to Eastern Ukraine than we did to Northern Mexico.

>>513941706
Fortunately, Russia has told the west exactly what needs to be done for peace to be achieved, so making it happen shouldn't be hard.

>>513941266
Fuck off faggot
Press gangs havent been used since the 1850s in Europe.
You cant pretend this is normal

>>513941706
Ok troon shill

>Article 83 of the Ukraine Constitution extends the term of authority of the Verkhovna Rada while martial law is in effect:

>In the event that the term of authority of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine expires while martial law or a state of emergency is in effect, its authority is extended until the day of the first meeting of the first session of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine , elected after the cancellation of martial law or of the state of emergency.

>>513942031
Its not normal, but draft dodging aint legal neither. Also attacking a friendly country, closest culturally to you, without warning or declaration of war is the most despicable.

>>513941819
Soros and USAID literrally rewrote the textbooks to teach kids ukrainians were opressed and russian children were taught to be ashamed of themselves for being opressors.

Faggot
Same globohomo marxist bullshit

if zelensky is so popular why didnt he just hold elections and receive a landslide?

>>513942099
Yes, parlament is also frozen until the end of the war, how observant of you

>>513941266
ok so why aren't you there, tapac?

>>513942248
>Russian tzardom oppresses "maloross" ethnicities for centuries
>Its somehow now invented by Soros.
Stop being retarded

>>513942346
Why haven't you called 117?

>>513942252
Because that would be constitutionally illegal?

>>513942472
>the constitution only matters when the jewish president says so, goy

>>513942354
>maloros is an oppressive term
rurals are braindead

>>513942559
That seems to be the case in Russia, yes. Ukraine probably wants to avoid such situation, which is why they are fighting now.

>>513942586
Yes, yes it is. It assumes that neighbor ethnicities are not real, while at the same time tzars kept banning "maloros" "dialects" and culture. Totally not oppression

>>513942472
constitution made after the separatism. so they dont have claims to crimea or donbass because the regime doesnt represent those people.

>>513942741
No, the constitution has not been changed, unlike in Russia

>>513934137
Nigger

>>513942741
"Seperatism"... When litterall foreign govermental agents come in took local administration by force and install their own puppets, chosen from criminals (leader of DNR was organising financial pyramid MMM branch) its not "seperatism" its an invasion.

>>513942472
It is also illegal for him to stay in office. This is pretty much a legal vacuum.
That's besides the point, the West wants him to stay in office because he will prolong the war, Russia argues that it cannot negotiate with him because it would create a judicial loophole. In reality they probably don't care about the war ending without fulfilling as close to their objectives as possible.
Neither side is really negotiating but arguing about politics and legality.

>>513943060
Its not illegal it's clarified in the election law you idiot.

>>513935486
>and stop killing my countrymen? Not a chance pal!

>>513942917
So why did 8 million people from ukraine flee to Russia?
Troon shill
Why was it so easy for the LPR and DPR to raise an army?

>>513942917
>When litterall foreign govermental agents come in took local administration by force and install their own puppets
but enough about euromaidan

>>513943060
Any other politician who'd sit it in Zelenskys place wouldn't capitulate. Even then Zelensky keeps trying to agree on freezing the front lines and having peace, but Putin demands more lands.

>>513943115
he's got nothing

>>513943060
During earlier talks parliment voted to give Zelensky authority to negotiate. People forgot this.

>>513935486
Ukraine is nothing more than Russia’s backyard. more accurately, it’s a backyard that Russia and Poland-Lithuania used to fight over

>>513943115
8 million didnt flee to Russia, and it wasn't easy

>>513943127
>Euromaidan
>Except president running away in shame from his own people nothing in goverment changed. Rada stayed the same and called for new elections
Yeeees, maidan the foreign takever.
Fuck off vatnik shill

>>513943309
Fuck off faggot.
Western media days 3 million
Russia says 8 million

You are just a lying cunt

>>513943485
If 8 million escaped to russia there wouldnt be millions of ukrainians in. Poland and Lithuania, and yet I hear Ukrainian speech on the streets commonly.

Fuck off vatnik liar.

>>513942822
Your seething has been noted

>>513935685
The same way UK did during WWII

>>513934060 (OP)
>Then why did /pol/ spam for years that it was Zelensky who didn't want to negotiate and was pro war?

Its true. both Russian and Ukrainian leadership dont want the war to end any time soon. when they say "to the last ukrainian' they mean it literally. Too many azov chuds still alive. The only people who want the war to end is the USA basically. Europe wants to keep the war going, ukrainine wants the war to keep going, RUssia wants the war to keep going.....desu i dont even understand why trump wants to end the war, when its a war designed to clear the land for Jews to take over.

>>513943206
Sure but in their constitution it also states that
>Article 73
>Issues of altering the territory of Ukraine are resolved exclusively by an All-Ukrainian referendum.
So I guess there is no simple answer to any of that.

>>513943779
UK had local elections faggot. And they had the power to fire churchill.

>>513934984
Double nigger, kek.
Still, zelski n Putin should have their legs tied together untill they become friends.
Like 2 alikes in school. Start fight and than become best of friends. All happy ever after

>>513943779
Was half of UK taken over by Germans? Did their constitution ban elections during wartime?

>Inb4 Ukraine performs illegal wartime elections under pressure and Putin claims the new president doesnt represent the eastern Ukraine, as the occupied territories didn't take part in the election

>>513943611
The german government even says 2.8 million, faggot shill.
DW

>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7rhKfsEgKaA

>>513934060 (OP)
So it's more land for Russia, then

>>513944222
>8 millions escaped to russia
>No it was 2.8 million
>No it was...
Yes, tonnes of Ukrainians have family in Russia, yes the countries were super close and friendly. Its also easier to escape away from the front line not towards it. Also smaller language barrier.
Its only normal that some escaped from the war eastward. It proves what exactly though?
Doesnt stop russia from doing aggressive war to claim territories and perform cultural genocide on captured territories.

>>513944534
I clearly said Russia said 8 million and NATO said 3 million you disgusting faggot shill.
And since NATO has spent billions on propaganda I doubt thier numbers.

Lie harder while you cope and seethe
Your masters lost

>>513944908
Russia has a giant lying propaganda empire, sets up fake news websites and spends infinite oil money to feed its narrative to you, even managed to poison AI by just insane amount of garbage reposted by those websites and twitter bots, while NATO has uuuuh some uuhhhh? Fox News?

Lmao.

>>513944534
you forgot to add "illegal": "illegal" aggressive war. very important point, sir
other than that your mental acrobatics are very good, you've been trained well to shill for nafo

>>513945035
Zero proof of that faggot
We have proof USAID and the CIA spent billions though and funded 90% of ukraines media.
>its ok when we do it

>>513934060 (OP)
Smokes and mirrors.
It has been over 3 years of Jewlensky and Jewtin pushing ceasefire and talks from one to another, never reaching anything, always finding new petty reasons to continue the slaughter of russian and ukrainian brothers.
The jewish money machine must continue boys, we'll be at this for more years, there are still plenty of russians and ukrainians to be droned, plenty of weapons to sell, plenty of funds to be laundered into this war.>>513934103

>>513945035
USAID
Entire British companies buying youtuber creators to spew propaganda (zinc network)
Literal billions poured into radio free europe, bbc and other propaganda machines
But as always with jewish nafo shills - accuse others of what you do yourself

>>513945236
>zero proof of that
>23pbtid
Lmao

>>513945236
>Zero proof
Lol, lmao.
You were the first to repost "The london crier" when they posted about some zelensky buying a castle fake news story. Can we see the historical "london crier" newspaper today? Where did it go? Where did it come from? USAID was a completely transparent and funding was reported. Russians just create shady "newspapers" for retards like you to repost.

>>513945235
>you forgot to add "illegal": "illegal" aggressive war. very important point, sir
according to the russian constitution, it is illegal.
dont you care about that? kekw

>>513934060 (OP)
No, they won't stop till the regain what was stolen.

>>513935486
Eject them then, oh right you can't and nobody will help you.

>>513934137
I don't know too much because I don't autistically follow it like some do, rather I just get the highlights. It seems to be escalating in that both sides are lashing each others refineries / critical energy infrastructure out of it now. I don't know the extent of it but if it's true then it's escalating and not deescalating. I don't think Russia will take too kindly to critical economic infrastructure getting blown up and if they don't fold soon then it means peace is no longer on the horizon.

>>513945457
>You were the first to repost "The london crier" when they posted about some zelensky buying a castle fake news stor

Please post where I said that you lying twat.

>https://thehill.com/video/usaid-funds-ukrainian-media-u-s-govt-controls-it-tanya-lukyanova-interview/10473860/

>>513945666
>
>

>>513935565
You won't do shit

>>513945700
Im talking about your vatnik kind, not you personally, retard.
How would you feel if you didn't eat your breakfast this morning?

>>513945794
>when i said you I didnt mean you
Goalpoast moving faggot

The CIA also funded 6000 internatonal journalists to shill the russian/Trump collusion story and push for war in ukraine.

>https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/usaid-was-spending-268-million-fund-6000-approved/

>USAID Was Spending $268 Million to Fund Over 6,000 Approved Journalists – While at the Same Time Spending MILLIONS to Silence Conservative, Independent Media Like The Gateway Pundit

>>513945515
"illegal aggressive war" is your talking point, shill, not Russian
you are so bad at this kek

>>513946117
>Goalpoast moving
Then how about we go back to original issue. Why don't you condemn Putin for attacking a closest friendliest country to Russia out of nowhere in the middle of the night, without a declaration of war, and waging an aggressive land grabbing war for almost 4 years, which already claimed millions of lives and displaced almost 10 million people?

>>513946221
>"illegal aggressive war" is your talking point, shill, not Russian
No, anon, even Putin had to call it a special military operation because the russian constitution FORBIDS aggressive wars.
Its funny that you dont even know what the fuck you are shilling for. Really I am surprised, Belarusians have high IQ normally.

>>513946369
>without a declaration of war
Change the subject much?
>The last formal declaration of war in Europe occurred during World War II

Nobody declares war anymore faggot. Having NAZI parades in Kiev was more than enough reasons to invade. Plus CIA listening posts on thier borders, biolabs ran by the US Pentagon.

How about russian government buying out greenpeace and "green" politicians in europe to shill for Russian gas as a "green" alternative for coal and nuclear?

>>513934060 (OP)
I heard zelenski doesnt have any windows around him at any given moment in time.

>>513934060 (OP)
We did not said that you fucking stupid kike, we want war to continue until the last nafoid and EUSSR2 going tits up before it becomes 90% brown. You're lucky the other side is led by absolute morons like Lavrov and Cucktin.

>>513934060 (OP)
Time for Ukies to rise up and hang that fucking jewish faggot.

>>513946678
Moscow has had many more nazi marches than Ukraine.
>Some fringe group did a walk we should now start the biggest war since ww2
You're showing your stupidity for falling for the putins propaganda

>>513934060 (OP)
This was included in the Russian demands from before the invasion, and is reasonable

>>513946678
Oh wait, you just SERIOUSLY used BIOLABS as argument for war? HAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHA HOLY SHIT HOW RETARDED YOU ARE.

DONT FORGET BIONGINEERED MOSQUITOS TO ERADICATE RUSSIAN GENOME!!! AND BIRDS HAHAHHAHAHHA

HOLY shit anon, you cant be so retarded.

>>513935486
>but it's okay when israel does it because they're god's chosen people

>>513934060 (OP)
why cant russia end it already
if youre waiting for us to get invovled that wont happen until you siege kiyv

>>513946813
You faggots lie without shame

https://nypost.com/2022/03/26/hunter-biden-played-role-in-funding-us-bio-labs-contractor-in-ukraine-e-mails/

>The US awarded $23.9 million to Metabiota later in 2014, with $307,091 allocated for a “Ukrainian research projects,” government spending records showed.

The younger Biden bragged to investors that his company organized funding for Metabiota and helped it “get new customers” including “government agencies,” according to e-mails.

B&V had been commissioned in 2010 by the US Defense Threat Reduction Agency to build a lab in Odessa, to “enhance the government’s existing surveillance systems to detect, report and respond to bioterrorism attacks, epidemics and potential pandemics,” the company’s website said.

>>513946952
Because Russia is fighting at full power already and cant really intensify.

>>513934060 (OP)
Zelensky yesterday
>we will never surrender Donbass or Crimea to Russia
Right-sektor Odessa chapter leader yesterday
>if zelensky surrenders land he is a dead man
What happened to the small right-sektor chapter in Crimea?
>GRU liquidated all 5 males and 1 female wearing jeans and turtle necks with balaclavas after they murdered a FSB operator
What happened to right-sektor in Donetsk?
>Literally hunted down in the streets after the separatists stormed tne police station and looted shot guns
>hanged, shot, beaten
Conclusion
The only way for peace is for all Ukrainians who hold banderite views to be liquidated

>>513934060 (OP)
zelensky must die

>>513946920
2022 wants thier propaganda back
Faggot

Yes. The exact same type of labs where the made COVID.

>>513947016
How is a biolab exploring soil quality and researching cholera outbreaks in rivers a pretext of war? Biolabs exist everywhere in the world and research mundane things. USA outsources a lot of research to countries with cheap but educated population, yes, and how is that a reason for war?

Putin is, again, waging a landgrab war for his entertainment, anything else is just cope explanations for retards like you.

>>513934060 (OP)
why won't this orange nigger stop sending weapons to ukraine and israel when he said he wants no more wars?? how many children did trump and epstein have to rape to keep these ZOG wars going

>>513947246
USA and Russia promised to protect Ukraines territorial integrity. One kept promise, another backstabbed. Why do you want to be a backstabber liar?

>>513947171
Fuck off
So why were they run by the Pentagon?
Why was everyone working in the labs given diplomatic immunity?
Why did the pentagon fund a biolab in China that made COVID?

Your stale old lies dont work here faggot

>>513947397
Wow, that sucks.
Good thing the Ukraine never promised anything anybody and dindu nuffin wrong.

>>513947500
And? How is any of these a casus belli for any war?

Oh noooo, usa is funding your ex ussr scientists and giving them a good paygrade! The horror! We need to bomb your country!!!

>>513947518
Says the backstabber

>>513946400
Yes, it's a special military operation. What's your point? I literally said that "illegal war" is YOUR talking point, not russian position. Are you retarded?

>>513947685
How is special landgrab operation different from

Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 353. Planning, preparation, unleashing or waging a war of aggression

1. Planning, preparation or unleashing a war of aggression -

shall be punished by imprisonment for a term of seven to fifteen years.

2. Waging a war of aggression -

shall be punished by imprisonment for a term of ten to twenty years

>>513947823
Who started killing Donbass people? Who sent trains with armed people to Crimea that Crimean civilian population defended against?

What a fucking retard, Russia truly is the armpit of the world.
Zelensky has been democratically elected by the Ukrainian citizens, unlike Russia's dictator.

>>513945666
this. russia took over ukraine like 3 years ago what are you guys even talking about, the 3 day special operation was completed on time

>>513934137
>reparations
what a fucking nigger. all jews are niggers.

>>513948006
>Who started killing Donbass people? Who sent trains with armed people to Crimea that Crimean civilian population defended against?
Uhhh....

>>513948006
Igor Girkin - Strelkov and his group sent in by FSB to capture administrative buildings and pretend to be locals, along with multiple other like Givi, Motorolla etc.

Ukrainian trains to Crimea never happened, it was completely made up by Russian tv, you are free to bring any independant proofs. But Russian troops stripped of identification insignia attackin g Ukrainian military bases did happen, using time of confusion and scare tactics, yes.

Russia backstabbed Ukraine at the moment when Ukrainian goverment was weak. Attacked Donbass and Crimea. The actors who did inavde Donbass openly talk about it. Putin openly mocked everyone and openly admitted that the little green men were his. Your point?

>>513948387
>Igor Girkin - Strelkov and his group sent in by FSB

Same lies from you faggots everytime. Girkin never admitted that.

>>513946117
lmao, looking this website and its owner up is a trip. coming out as gay, but ONLY after the pulse nightclub shooting and then blaming obama for it? lmao i love this sorta shit. dont forget to check out the merch store!

>>513934060 (OP)
Russia always has some new excuse. They really are niggers.

>>513948491
Lol, lmao

https://www.rbc.ru/politics/20/11/2014/546e278acbb20f6cca05fb53


https://youtu.be/m1wMLlzOlXQ - Strelkov litterally admits it on camera

>>513948608
See
You retarded troon shills post links proving you are lying shits. Nowhere does it say he was working for the FSB.

>Former Minister of Defense of the self-proclaimed DPR Igor Strelkov called himself responsible for unleashing military action in eastern Ukraine. "I pulled the trigger of the war after all," Strelkov said
>I

>>513948006
>Who started killing Donbass people?
Strelkov.
>>513948006
>Who sent trains with armed people to Crimea that Crimean civilian population defended against?
Putin, here is on camera admitting it.

>>513948608
>Inb4 he wasn't there sent from FSB
Yea, because a thing like "ex fsb" exists. And he left his FSB job just before the Donbass invasion, and somehow just by chance became the leader of Ukrainian seperatists as a Russian citizen, just by chance, oit of nowhere, Moscow resident becomes the leader of Donbass people

Putler is being unreasonable! To the last Ukrainian it is! Take that Putler!

It's simple.
Ukraine did not want to sign a peace treaty when they thought that NATO would continue to support them.
However, now the US is pulling out and Russia is making steady progress so they don't want to negotiate when they can keep winning instead.
When the war started Russia wanted 2 new provinces on top of Crimea, now they are not leaving with less than 4.

>>513948491
faggot

>>513939494
>Great diplomacy, ivan. Its disgusting how the stupid ukrainians do not accept these more than benevolent terms. They must be insane

If the Ukranians don't like this then they can just fight the war until it's military conclusion. What's the problem?

>>513934137
>Can't finish the war in 4 years because you are weak
>You are le illegitimate
Weak shit, maybe instead of worrying about the presidency of the country you invaded and maybe git gud at war?

>>513934701
That's one hell of a punchline

>>513949206
Still doesnt say he was working for Russia
Faggot

>>513934212
do you actually think you are seeing a real war here?
Dunno if you play HOI IV but have you ever set a war goal of 3 days only to overshoot it by 3 fucking YEARS?

>>513949480
>Fsb colonel
>Workes in FSB up until the invasion
>Wasnt alone but somehow made a whole small invasion force to take with him into Donbass
Hmmmmmmmm, yes a lowly moscow resident pensioner, completely ordinary, not working for mother russia at all

>>513949595
>it was supposed to take 3 days like in muh vidya
Does nafo really?

>>513949480
are you being obtuse on purpose? are you seriously trying to tell the story that strelkov is a hero of the people that materialized out of thin air and anger over the suffering of the donbas people?

>Sign deal with Zelensky
>Ukraine takes a few months off, regroups, retrains, rearms
>Government comes out and says Zelensky wasn't legally elected so the treaty doesn't apply anymore
>Restart war
You know they'd do it.

>>513949668
But you said he admitted it.
So are you lying now or then?
You are a troon shill posting the usual discord propaganda.

>>513949741
you don't seriously believe Putin, with KGB info and tons of spies in the country, would publicly announce 3 days of special operation only to go "oh no, how absolutely unforseen and not at all planned"?
This shit is planned from both sides, coincidentally both are jewed.

>>513949826
I said your fellow discord nafo troon is a lying faggot. As I have proved.

>>513949917
>publicly announce 3 days of special operation
When did he do that?

>>513949857
US strategic goals are to clear (cause enough trouble to immobilize, i.e. regime change) Russia, Iran, China in that order. All at once would be a desaster, and they know that.
But Putin also knows that. So right now he'll do whatever he can to extend the "war" while not moving at all and acting like peace is what he wants because needs public support.
US was PISSED at Israel jumping at Iran so they quickly went in, bombed some mountains, phoned Iran, Iran got to bomb some evacuated US bases, pack it up guys.
Why was the US pissed? Because this now basically raises the chances of Iran wanting strategic nukes to 100%.

>>513949206
>moscow times
literal cia asset
>>513948801
>>513948387
>>513948251
After CIA overthrew democratically elected government in Ukraine the new Ukrainian regime sent army against Donbass in 2014, calling it ATO. Donbass people did seize administrative buildings it was a reaction to new far right regime. The subsequent suppression of the rights of Eastern Ukrainian people and their language only further proves that Donbass (and Crimean) people were correct in resisting the CIA coup.

>>513938823
the “palestinians” are just mold and bacteria that over grew its original place of infection (Arabia)

>>513950047
upon "fact checking", lukashenko said that, and the russkis joked about it in 2014 after Euromaidan, actually and I shit you not claiming they'd need "2 weeks"

>>513949881
He admitted starting the war, with people under his command, whom he took across the border to Ukraine.
And its not a secret he was serving in FSB as a colonel, up untill the unvasion basically.

So tell me, how a lowly pensioner from Moscow can form a whole invasion force under his command and take position of Russian govermental puppet in a pro russian puppet state without working for Russia?

There isn't no exFSB officers, never has, nwver will.

>>513950168
>After CIA overthrew democratically elected government in Ukraine the new Ukrainian regime
The CIA forced the former president to flee in a helicopter to russia?

>>513950329
> its not a secret he was serving in FSB

The only source is a BBC article saying "He might have worked for the FSB"
FUCK ALL NAFO TROON SHILLS

>>513950168
>Overthrow
>President escapes in shame
>Everything else stays exactly the same, Rada stays, ministers stray, new elections are called for the president.
>Coup
Lol
CIA cant just topple goverments, they arent all capable as you vatniks want me to believe. Fuck off with your lies.

>>513950168
ATO started after Strelkov and co taken over Donbass, russian army helped them with arty and air support, and Crimea was already fully annexed.
War didnt start with ATO. It started with russian agents attacking Donbass and Crimea

>>513950359
The angry mob that stormed government buildings with violent intent. You know, the whole color revolution thing. But keep trying to reduce the entire orchestrated coup to a single fact of a president fleeing for his life. It's always funny to see you nafoid shills squirm while doing mental acrobatics.

>>513934060 (OP)
BRAVO DONALD
He said he would solve this on the first day. 7 months later we're back to square one.

>>513934060 (OP)
Lavrov is a neo-Soviet compulsive liar and I hope he catches an FPV drone to the face. Russia's word/guarantee isn't worth the toilet paper they write it on.

>>513941819
>kill some thousands of russian speaking russians
>"we treat them as good as the rest"
the slavic capacity to ignore dead slavs astounds me every time
lots of "ukrainians" fled to russia and will resettle in their old homes
actual ukrainians fled to germany, italy and france and will never come back

>>513950168
>Suppression of rights of donbass people
Never happened. Russian was widely spoken, russian speaking politicians were getting elected, children would donpoetry contests in schools reciting poetries in Russian and Ukrainian alike. 9th of may was celebrated like usual mostly in Russian. Zelensky didnt even fucking use Ukrainian until the 2022 war started.

Just google some recordings on youtube from Eastern Ukrainian schools, town administrations tv etc frommbefore the war to see how russian propaganda lies.

>>513934060 (OP)
Not surprising. Russia is just playing time and testing does Trump have the balls to hit new sanctions. Whatever happens, russia gains either crucial info about Trump and his balls or they gain more time. Which ever happens, its win for them

>>513934060 (OP)
Looks like Zelinski has outlived his usefulness. Glowies need to start making that fucker slip and fall in the shower.

>>513950570
why would Strelkov even attempt such a thing. and why would any person support him. Its not like something happened in Kiev prior to that. nah, can't be
>>513950787
it's funny reading bullshit from Polacks telling me what went on in my own home country and how my language was not suppressed.
kindly kill yourself, shill
you are a disgrace to humanity

>>513950469
>One source of BBC
He admitted it, his emails were hacked and leaked. He used multiple passports with multiple names.
>Girkin wasnt fsb colonell!!!
The biggest vatnik cope I ever seen

>Yea you can just take and organise a military invasion force, get rifles and equipment, and attack neighboring country as a lowly Moscow pensioner
Lol, lmao. How did the Russian border guard let him thien huh?

>>513950707
>Collateral damage in active warzone is equal to intentional killing and genocide.

>>513951038
Funny reading lies of vatnipidoraha

>>513951153
kill yourself, faggot

>>513951111
>colletaral damage in a warzone
the ukrainian government turned donbass into a warzone and killed lots of "their own" citizens
azov burned doen a church with dozens of russians in it, all with the blessings of the government
but as i said, your capacity to ignore, rationalize and mock the dead is astounding

>>513950580
>You know, the whole color revolution thing
But Strelkov is on tape admitting he started the violence. The russian numbers are confirming the violence was dying down. The SMO killed hundreds of thousands of people, in 8 years of violence in Ukraine it was a few thousands.
If the SMO set out to protect Russian Speakers in Donbas, it is a complete and utter failure. These 2 regions now report that 70% of their fighting age males are gone. Entire villages without men. This happened under russian governance, not Ukrainian.

>>513951268
Why a Mayor of Mariupol was an ethnic russian who only spoke Russian? I thought bandera Kiev goverment would have not let him become a mayor and would just kill him!

>>513951038
>Polacks telling me what went on in my own home country and how my language was not suppressed.
Did you forget you are Belarusian? lmao

>>513951314
Russia turned Donbass into a warzone by illegally sending in false flagged troops in 2014

Doneck was a sprawling modern city, today, due to Russian attacks on infrastructure and failing to perform basic maintenance Doneck doesnt even have drinkable water and the low quality water which could be sent, is sent for 30 minutes once a few days.
Russia caused Donbass people to litterally FIGHT with each other, home vs home over water.

>>513951358
Strelkov didnt start Euromaidan
Violence started ramping up after Dementia Joe got elected
Casualities of SMO is probably due to Ukraine doing full mobilization. And at least most Donbass people are free to use their own language, without being hounded by Bandera nationalists like what happens in rest of "democratic" Ukraine

>>513951408
I think he tries to imply he's donbabvian refugee

>>513951408
Sandnigger invader doesn't comprehend that IP address is not equal to place of birth.

>>513951408
maybe he fled the carnage to white russia?
>>513951557
yeah, people like defend themselves from guys trying to kill you and your family
no wonder russia send aid before they marched in some 8 years later
i know, a pole can't grasp that killing a minority related to a more powerful neighbour is a really bad idea, so of course you see the murderer as the just one, and the victim trying to defend himself as the evil one

>>513951596
>Casualities of SMO is probably due to Ukraine doing full mobilization
But according to Russia, the deaths in Donbas almost stopped entirely in 2021, before Russia started the full Invasion.

So, are you Belarusian or are you claiming Belarusian and Russian are the same language anyway?
>>513951619
I just find this type fascinating. They are way too emotionally involved to be a paid shill - it also explains them being incoherent. Its mostly drags of society I assume.

>>513951619
>donbabvian
use of such language shows how you view Donbass people
and that just reiterates that all your arguments are simple lies. In truth you just hate Donbass people, you hate Russian language. Probably Ukro refugee? Taras? Mykola? Chomu ne na fronti?

>>513951720
>Sandnigger invader
You know, the sandniggers that are being brought here at least dont knock on our doors with AKs - Russians do this. They also dont castrate enemy soldiers alive. They also dont threaten to nuke Europe. So yes: Even if the poles might disagree, I prefer a sandnigger to a russian 1000 times.

>>513951854
>In truth you just hate Donbass people, you hate Russian language
No, we hate Russian bombs,and we hate Russians that support this nonsensical war.

>>513951596
Nothing you say makes sense. After ATO violence was only going down and the front was almost completely quiet before Russia invaded Donbass for the second time in 2022. Reminder Zelensky was elected as a kinda pro russian candidate, the east voted for him in 2019 (picrelated). And his plan was to speak with Putin and settle the peace, but Putin backstabbed and attacked in 2022.

How can a pro eastern candidate, belowed by the eastern Ukrainian people be also the nazi bandera who tortures eastern ukrainians? Because Russian propaganda lies, and there was no oppression of russian language

>>513950473
>>513950359
Does that not fit the definition of coup? The result was something you liked therefore it was a heckin democratic overthrow. In reality Victoria Nuland spend billions to pay the nationalists to attack cops and inhabit government buildings to oust the *democratically elected* Russian biased guy. Russian bias here refers to maybe corruption, but certainly no war that gets everyone killed. Now you have pro-West corruption AND a war that gets everyone killed kek

>>513951757
Defend from whom? There was no violence before Russian people and their teams went in and started Donbass war.

>>513951792
Why are you pretending I didnt expose you as a lying faggot the last time you claimed this?

>>513939904

>>513951792
>So, are you Belarusian or are you claiming Belarusian and Russian are the same language anyway?
what kind of retarded language is this? you got a stroke?
>They are way too emotionally involved to be a paid shill
Oh how I wish your home got bombed by "democratic free pro-EU" forces.
Hopefully you'll get your dues
And incoherent? LMAO. You ask stupid questions and cannot comprehend answers. You lack of ability to understand provided information does not mean the other person is incoherent. It simply means you have low IQ

>>513951954
You cant make people protest for weeks by just giving them a few cookies.
God I wish all-powerful CIA from russian delusions was real

>>513952009
>Defend from whom?
the freely murdering azov brigades or the military artillery bombardmends on cites were surely goood motivators for self defence

>>513934060 (OP)
>>513934137
Let me explain this for midwits:
The point he's making is that jewlensky says that giving away land like crimea is unconstitutional but lavrov is highlighting that Ukraine already does unconstitutional things like keeping jewlensky in power thus either remove jewlensky if you're serious about the constitution or sign the unconstitutional peace agreement since you're already shitting on the constitution anyway

>>513935077
FAKE

>>513934137
>He still insists on reparations and on no territorial concessions.
Can you please ask Putler to bring up the reparations jews like jewlensky owe russians and Europeans pic related

>>513952115
The heckin good hearted libs who wanted a shitty deal from the EU were hardly doing any violence my friend. Same with the 'moderate rebels' in Syria or elsewhere, the reasonable ones are a fig leaf for the extremists

>>513951919
You hate Russia, stop beating around the bush
>>513951922
It doesnt make sense because it contradicts your programming
Zelensky did not stop hostilities. In fact he increased them after dementia Joe got elected. He did not adhere to Minsk agreements. Sfter he got elected he went back on every promise he made. He was never pro-eastern, but he did successfully fool a lot of Eastern people.

>>513952115
>You cant make people protest for weeks by just giving them a few cookies
over here demonstrating can be a full time job, paid good as well
USAID and other taxes in the western world would pay handsomly to useful idiots
i'm not joking here oleg, nor am i trying to dunk on you

>>513952168
Bombardment of Donbass didnt start until Russian forces like Strelkov and Givi and their people started occupying, torturing (look up Motorolla and Givi on youtube) Doneck and neighboring cities, resisting arrest and had russian arty cover them.
There was no "freely murdering azov" lmao, how do you imagine that happening without flood of phone videos? There was russian propaganda spreading lies while sending in combat troops under false flag to take Donbass.

>>513952053
>Oh how I wish your home got bombed
>Noo you cant say donbabwean thats mean!
Mental illness?

>>513952171
Ukraine president constitutionally during war doesn't have to make elections, but that's ok, keep coping with your lies, won't make you win the war anyway

>>513951954
>spend
*spent, Ivan.

>>513952375
>There was no "freely murdering azov" lmao
even anti russian outlets reported about the mass killings azov did
azov themselves posted about it with pride
not one was prosecuted

>>513952115
>God I wish all-powerful CIA from russian delusions was real
Same. Instead we have to deal with this zogged globohomo spreading cancer of an institution

>>513934060 (OP)
Zelensky wants Ukraine to collapse so he can flee to the French Riviera as President in exile. They can burn all the documents before he leaves and if the Russians recovered any incriminating evidence man will call it Russian Disinformation

>>513952360
>You hate Russia,
I dont give a shit about Russia. Its a frozen mafia hellhole. You wanna defend the mafia there, not my problem.
I want them to stop bombing Europa, and I hate the fact they are doing this, correct.

>>513952375
>torturing
Yeah, we all know whose side posts the most gore, whose side enjoys the suffering of others. So I'll simply call you out on your lies once again.

>>513952476
if ure german translate this sentence

olle was mit eam bolschewikengesocks paktieren wörn zam mit eana scheissrussn hänga

>>513952360
Russia did not adhere to Minsk either. Ukraine was supposed to get controll of the border, that never happened The minsk was a complete failure with no side wanting to follow it, and its makes sense. Russia wanted to have a piece of pro russian pseudo state in Ukraine to prevent any sensible dialogue with NATOnor Russia, just an ace in the sleeve just in case. Ukraine couldnt take it by force easily either, due to regular army just beyound the border supporting and dnr using civilian population as a meat shield.

But again it all started because Putin wanted to meddle in Ukraines affairs, his puppet run away and he saw an opportunity to do a funny landgrab and false flag protests/military actions.

>>513952610
>dies soll deutsch sein
schluchtenscheißer, was geht?

>>513952427
you can call Donbass however you like. it just shows your attitude and your true feelings towards this conflict. and yes, bigotry against Russia could be classified as a mental illness
>>513952536
>26 pbtid
>i don't give a shit about russia mkay?
sure thing, adolf
and don't give me the bullshit about Ukraine being part of Europe. any sane person knows full well that "civilized western Europe" never did and never will consider Ukraine(and Ukrainians) as European.

>>513952476
No, they didn't. Lmao.

>>513952566
Mhm, bacause we get tonnes of video from russian army in ukraine, how they torture their meatniks, and zero videos like that from Ukraine.

Torturing, beating up, dragging behind cars, they all film that and boast about it, funny good russian soldiers.

>>513934103
THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ENOUGH UKRAINIAN AND RUSSIAN MEN CULLED YET. THERE MUST BE WAR UNTIL ALL THE SLAVS KILL EACH OTHER!

>>513952463
Lel owned the vatniks again! Putler's gonna freak
>>513952452
There's a ukie in chug who claims this is not even true but I can't say myself

>>513936193
>There has been no sign or reason why Zelensky need to be president nor that he want to be one longer than needed.
There's a lot of disgruntled Ukrainians who would happily kill him if they could. And he himself understands this. Also you're a memeflag which means you're israeli.

>>513952849
Another retarded american

>>513937511
>zelensky will flee to israel
His parents already live there. When the war first broke out most of Ukraine's jews fled there. Don't forget that Goyim males were forbidden to leave, but Zelensky allowed his own people to go.

>actually putin is just following jewish plan of slav extermination
This is the biggest retardation ever.

>>513952711
>But again it all started because Putin wanted to meddle in Ukraines affairs
wrong again
It wasn't Putin who poured billions of dollars into Ukraine to "support democracy"
It wasn't Russian politicians who arrogantly joined Euromaidan protests
In fact I'd love to see your face if Russian politicians showed up to support anti-government protests in Europe. would you also claim that there was no foul play?
Don't answer, it's a rhetorical question as we all know what your answer will be

>>513952860
>russian in vatnik general lies
More news at 11

>>513952758
>cant translate it
thanks
>>513952823
You freaked the fuck out over the pole saying "donbabweans" or some shit, while you openly say you feel JOY when my home is bombed, you call people nafotrannies, bloodthirsty mercenaries, etc. just for disgareeing with you here.
You are a psychiatric patient. Look at what you write and look at what treatment you demand of others.
>Call me Lord while I spit on you
Go fuck yourself, whatever you are.

>>513952860
>but I can't say myself
You can, just check the Ukrainian constitution.

>>513953050ich kann kein frosch sprechen, t''schuldigung

>>513953040
>memeflag
>it's retarded
it truly is a universal law

>>513953179
Say that in Belarusian

>>513952476
Thats because AZOV took over the police dept in Kiev first and then the entire country.

>>513953261
a good reason to resist then

>>513953050
>You freaked the fuck out
where
>you openly say you feel JOY
where
>you call people nafotrannies, bloodthirsty mercenaries, etc. just for disgareeing with you here.
not for disagreeing. it's simple facts. you are a nafotranny. a preprogrammed npc who cannot even entertain the idea that maybe he may be wrong. maybe the billions that his governments are spending on propaganda somehow affects him. nah.
>Go fuck yourself, whatever you are.
right back at you, nafoid

>>513953039
Putin litterally held a direct line in Kyiv to support and shill Yanukovich.
>Oh nooo, pro democratic politicians are appearing at pro democratic protests!!!
Maybe if Yanukovich didn't backstab people of Ukraine and signed the euroassociation it would have been different. But he was a Putins puppet.

Again, if Putin didnt meddle, there was no Maidan, if Putin didn't meddle, there would be no war in Donbass in 2014, and Crimea would flourish and attract wealthy european tourists. If putin didnt go completely bonkers and attack ukriane again in 2022 we didnt have millions of dead and displaced, and Russia would still be among world leaders, trading and growing.

Putin is the reason situation in Ukraine and Russia has been going worse and worse since 2007.

>>513952476
>mass killings azov did
>anti russian outlets reported
I'm sure you can post them then?