Thread 513942880

So let me get this straight.
>illegally immigrates into the US
>gets busted during a human smuggling bust
>gets deportation order
>somehow convinces a judge that he's going to be killed if he's returned to El Salvador (his home country)
>judge finds it credible that he's MS-13, rules he can't be deported to El Salvador
>after 6 years trump deports him there anyways because bukele cleaned that shithole up
>everyone freaks out because the order says he can't go to el salvador despite the rival gang no longer being operational
>now they're going to haul his ass to fucking uganda
Why the fuck did the left pick this guy? He's indefensible. They are literally trying to pull their emotional manipulation shit on a technicality. They could've picked some fucking old lady or something with an actual sob story, instead they decided the guy who fears gang retaliation and was caught in a human trafficking operation is THE best example they could find.

>>513942880 (OP)
Because he was innocent (no proof he’s a trafficker) and was sent to CECOT under orders of the Trump Admin. He was tortured in one of the worst prisons on the planet

>>513942969
He is not a legal US resident. He got deported because of his immigration status, not because he was convicted of a crime. El salvador has legal jurisdiction over him, not the US. If they want to throw his ass into CECOT then it's their business, not americas.

>>513942880 (OP)
>Why the fuck did the left pick this guy?
The left is brainrot. They took Trump's bait AGAIN and now are forced to sit back and watch midterms adds about how they fought for a illegal alien human trafficking criminal.

>>513943140
America paid for him to be housed in CECOt. Plus El Salvador is a puppet state of the USA so USA is responsible anyway

>>513943661
Trump literally took the bait. He got convinced by Groyper retards to criticize Israel and now absolutely no American who’s not a pro-Hamas retard is going to vote for him in the midterms

>>513943661
take that libertarian memeflag off retard, you love the state keep licking the boot

>>513944018
>>513944088
Are you okay? You sound like a full on schizo.

>>513944265
You sound stupid

>>513942969
>>513943661
>>513944018
>>513944088
>>513944396
Topic garners IMMEDIATE multi-IP memeflag response.
Curious!

>>513942880 (OP)
'The Left' wants to lose. Why do you think the picked Kamala? It's kayfabe.
>>513942969
>>513944018
>>513944088
This has to be bait

>>513944396
Because I don't believe that el salvador has no agency or that only pro-hamas people are going to vote for him? You literally have pro palestine riots weekly from the left and you think that everyone will vote for them instead?

>>513944509
>the left wants to lose

2/10 ragebait

>>513944548
My entire family dropped Trump the moment he insulted Netenyahu and said Israel doesn’t want peace

>>513942880 (OP)
>Why the fuck did the left pick this guy?
It's some kind of tactic.
They do it every time.
COuld have picked Sandra Bland ...went with George Floyd instead.

there's got to be a reason for it

>>513942880 (OP)
>why did the left pick this guy?
nobody on the left cares anymore. this will totally own the rightwingers epic style and thats all that matters now. consequences are no longer a determining factor for these obsessed retards

>>513944711
It only turned MAGa off Trump and now everyone who voted Trump is regretting it, but sure buddy

>>513944509
>'The Left' wants to lose
This. The Democrats aren't the left anymore than Republicans are the right.

>>513942880 (OP)
>now they're going to haul his ass to fucking uganda
This is because he refused to plead guilty to the human trafficking charge, if he did he would be getting deported to Costa Rica instead of Uganda. Him ending up in Uganda is 100% his fault.
>Why the fuck did the left pick this guy?
They hate Trump and love illegals. I dont think they knew he was ms13 or the human trafficking. They dont want to backtrack on it so they double down and use the lugenpresse to call him a "Maryland dad" and an "immigrant" to obfuscate that he is an illegal alien

>>513942880 (OP)
What was the proof he was in MS13? It's been months and they were so hard up for evidence they put out that weed, smiley, cross, skull tattoo that no one but anons can make any assumptions about. There is still no official report, no translation that helps people identify others based on that code. MS13 has a distinct set of imagery so membership is instantly recognizable. Being a covert operative who needs to explain how those no M, S, one, three symbols mean MS13 doesn't make sense. No support coming out to make it official and support Trump in using that pic as evidence, especially when he insists it's clear as if the superimposed M, S, one, and three are on his hand.

>>513945953
He is not getting deported because he's being suspected to be a ms-13 member. He's getting deported because he's not a citizen of the US. He came to the US illegally.

>>513945953
>no one but anons can make any assumptions about. There is still no official report, no translation that helps people identify others based on that code
Iirc the FBI or DHS confirmed he is MS13. Thats why he was worried about a rival gang in El Salvador. Regardless, he entered illegally and should be deported. It was a mistake to send him to El Salvador initially, the judges are libtard activists, and now that he can go to a different country, he can go there and the initial court order is still being complied with.

>>513946092
>He's getting deported because he's not a citizen of the US. He came to the US illegally.
Exactly. The government of Uganda is helpful for working with us to detain this trash. They get paid for it. Its a win-win arrangement.

>>513942969
Multiple judges agreed that he is a gang member.

>>513944018
Why would you just go on the internet and tell lies like that?
Whatever, I think we should have stayed out on the borth bank of the rio grande and played him alive as a warning.

>>513946092
And that's fine. Why did Trump hold up a picture showing his knuckles were code for MS13 and how was the determination made to label him as MS13? Why was there no support or clarification about that picture after Trump trippled down on it being obvious and turned his fumble into a curve ball by letting on he thought the letters and numbers were there, spelling it out "M, S, one, three" while getting frustrated?

>>513946213
How was it confirmed? Why go through the trouble of posing with the weed, smiley, cross, skull tattoos? I know they have a new systems for determining gang membership and it really is a series of questions with a point system like "do they have tattoos? Do they know someone in a gang? Have they been pictured with someone in a gang?" It's very loose and the fact that they need to stretch the imagination to see the only tattoos they have shown as MS13 tattoos means they likely used this loose system.

This means the numbers they cite to help us imagine how many gang members they have deported will be drastically inflated, more than previously assumed.

>>513942880 (OP)
He’s brown and they literally worship people with brown skin dude.
It’s a religion to them, a matter of first principles

>>513946875
>How was it confirmed?
Other MS 13 people have the same or similar tattoos where it shows MS 13 on their hand in a coded manner
Why are you defending Kilmar? Are you upset he was deported?
>This means the numbers they cite to help us imagine how many gang members they have deported will be drastically inflated, more than previously assumed.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/08/14/secretary-noem-announces-16-million-illegal-aliens-have-left-us
Here's some numbers of all illegals who are gone now. 1.6M
This is before the 10,000 additional agents are deployed. We can hit 10M gone by the time Trump leaves
Do you not want illegal aliens to be deported?

>>513942880 (OP)
how is this our problem ? who cares if this el savadorian is killed by other salvardians

>>513946875
>how was the determination made to label him as MS13?
Because 2 fucking immigration judges looked at his case and linked him to MS-13.

>>513947184
>Other MS 13 people have the same or similar tattoos where it shows MS 13 on their hand in a coded manner
Source. It's been months and I haven't seen confirmation of this. I'd love to see examples.

>Why are you defending Kilmar? Are you upset he was deported?
I'm not and no. You're letting on that deportation is your priority, so either way you're fine about anyone getting called "gang affiliated" if it gets them out faster, regardless of what's true.

I'm genuinely curious about codes and secret society shit. If MS13 has taken that route I'd like to know, not just for my curiosity, but for public safety.

>>513947416
But the system for gang affiliation is loose. Confirmation that he knew someone or worried with someone can be used to determine "membership". And also if he is a member, did they work backwards from there to determine his tattoos were code for MS13? That part sticks out as a desperate stretch to check a box since it was shown at all and hasn't been explained.

>>513942880 (OP)
Brother…he’s never left the us. He is still here

Dang, so this dude's getting dicked down in a Ugandan prison now. Surely that's insta-AIDS guaranteed. The left fucked this guy over, big time.

>>513947699
>worried with someone
Worked with someone.

>>513947543
>you're fine about anyone getting called "gang affiliated" if it gets them out
Im fine with anyone who entered the country illegally being deported. Whether theyre a gang member or not, they have to go. I dont care how young or old they are, they have to go. I dont care if theyre a good or bad person, they have to go
Kilmar is a gang member and a bad person

>>513942880 (OP)
Look everyone, an Israeli on a vpn

>>513948049
And that's fine, but we're having two different conversations. I'm not trying to keep him here, there could be 50 factors to deport him and 1 can be good enough. I'm curious about the tattoos on his hand, why and how it came to us to begin with. If there are plenty of factors to get him out, why did Trump focus on the tattoos?

>>513942880 (OP)
>Why the fuck did the left pick this guy? He's indefensible.
Mass immigration is a core component of the last 60 years of left wing "progress", which is currently hanging on by a thread. Once Americans realize that we can just deport ALL of these people, the preference cascade begins, their whole house of cards collapses and pandora's box is opened. Suddenly all the other shit policies of the last 60 years are on the table. In short, this is existential for the left.

>>513948363
>I'm curious about the tattoos on his hand, why and how it came to us to begin with
They came from Law Enforcement and Trump thought it was interesting and worth showing, to emphasize that Kilmar is a bad guy
>why did Trump focus on the tattoos?
I dont know, he thought it was interesting. I dont know why he does everything he does. I dont find the why on this to be important.

>>513943140
he was a resident alien/green card american

>>513948656
>Kilmar Abrego Garcia did not have a green card. He entered the United States illegally around 2011 or 2012

>>513942880 (OP)
>Why the fuck did the left pick this guy? He's indefensible.
Since when do you think "defensible" matters to the Left? They fight for the rights of violent criminals, mentally ill nutjobs who want to cut off their own genitalia, vicious animals, and even literal parasites.

The only thing that matters to the Left -- the ONLY thing -- is creating societal disruption so that the Left can push for The Revolution. It's even a saying among them, something like "The issue is not the issue, the revolution is the issue."

The logic of the leftists picking the absolute worst person possible, is to prove the point that even monsters deserve to have rights. The average normal person, however, does not see things this way and never will.

>>513942880 (OP)
i bet you looked at the photoshopped knuckle picture and went "yeah those letters look real" lmao blow your brains out you stupid gullible bitch

>>513948931
He has rights. He has the right to be deported instead of simply being gunned down like human garbage. We'll even give him a nice comfy seat on the flight out.

>>513948580
I know you don't think the why is important and likely neither do they. The result is a system that can mark anyone a gang member, terrorist, antisemite, etc and does what that labeling permits. It's great when it permits what you want done.

>They came from Law Enforcement and Trump thought it was interesting and worth showing, to emphasize that Kilmar is a bad guy
It wasn't just "this guy likes weed and Jesus!" it was to show he was specifically MS13, not just bad. If they had better evidence they would have presented it. This means this "I love weed and Jesus" tattoo is the worst tattoos he's got.
But how the code works would be great to know. Again, not just for my curiosity, but for public safety. We need to be better at identifying them.

>>513949832
They showed how the code works. It spells out MS 13. He is a gang member. They didn't loosen any standards. Your being paranoid and hyperbolic.
Are you an illegal alien with gang tattoos? Or some sort of lolbert?

>>513950014
How did they show how the code works? No source beyond anon speculation explains the connection between the symbols and the letters. Me telling you "these tattoos mean weed is peace while living, Christ is for peace in death" is just as valid.

>>513950251
They showed a photo how the symbols represent different letters that spell out MS13 . You really love using kilmar to make some imagined point about civil liberties. Just disgusting behavior. Youre a real piece of shit who loves illegal alien gang members.

>>513950621
>the government said it, I believe it, that settles it!
This isn’t about any if that though, this is basic curiosity and recognizing MS13 is dangerous and we should be able to identify them. Getting mad about any of this doesn't make sense.

>>513950948
>I don't trust law enforcement to tell me about gang tattoos. They don't know what theyre talking about. Im le smart
You love defending kilmar. Retarded lolbert

>those pardons are worthless
Yep

>>513951106
I'm curious what the code is. I want to know why "skull = 3". I want to know how close or far off anons were with their guesses. You have no curiosity, you just operate off low info retard assumptions.

he wasn't wearing his hat today

>sent to s. america
>returned to america
>sending to africa
>???

world wide deportation tour

I heard him speak about this this morning. In Spanish through an interpreter. Can't even speak broken English. English and Swahili are the official languages of Uganda so I hope he can speak Swahili.