Thread 513964805

What are Russians dying for?

purging nigger tranny liberasts from russian territory

>>513964805 (OP)
Donbabwe and Luganda.

>>513964805 (OP)
Russian jewish oligarchs

>>513964805 (OP)
Putin

>>513964805 (OP)
For diversity

>>513964805 (OP)
>nuggets

>>513964805 (OP)
They need to protect their culture of gay rape and alcoholism

>>513964805 (OP)
their oligarch masters

>>513964805 (OP)
BTW external fixation of fractures is the most expensive thretment of broken bones in the west, BTW.

>>513964805 (OP)
For.money.
Every contractor in the Russian armyncan buy an apartment with the money he gets for signing in the Russian army and fight in Ukraine.

MONEY!

>>513964805 (OP)
Blood and soil, same for Ukrainians
What does your country fight for?

>>513964805 (OP)
Jews and Ukrainian Bussy

>>513964805 (OP)
When the US army starts giving 500 000 USD , so you can buy house, which is the average price for a house, apartment in USA,.millions of Americans will sign up.

>>513967576
>Blood and soil,
LOL
You live in fantasy world of your nat-soc utopia. Get out to see the real life.

>>513967662
Or if America was fighting on their border to increase their territory instead of replacing the Taliban with the Taliban

>>513964805 (OP)
same as the Ukranians.

>>513967776
No, people, especially the kind that join the military care about that kind of propaganda
You are right that they get compensated well but you can't deny that the patriotic angle is crucial too, if you actually believe it doesn't matter you are a naive child

>>513964805 (OP)
to defend minorities from evil NAFO

>>513967816
Again, your nat-soc bullshit prevents you from seeing the real world.
Money!
The national state is dead.
What matters in life is money, because money is LIFE!
They will fight volunteerly only for money.

>>513968062
>Nat-soc
Everyone in history used the blood and soil angle before the 21th century
You should kill yourself, shitlibertarian retard

>>513968587
Nationalism didn't even exist before 19th century you faggot

>>513964805 (OP)
For the communism. Picrel.

>>513968694
First of all that is just wrong and second you can fight for patriotic or imperial ambitions with the same reasons
Blood and soil exist as a reason for war since war itself existed
What do you think the Romans, Jews, chinese or Persians fought for

>>513968776
Communist countries use central planning which involves top mathematicians using input data to predict how much will be consumed. The same technology that all serious companies use to determine how much they have to produce.
Unlike them however, the state has much more data which means that even in the rare cases in which private companies miscalculate their production target, they would be even rarer in a centrally planned economy.
Putin however, is a liberal.

>>513968587
Even the neoliberal Russia and Ukraine started to use that propaganda. Because fools like you have to be lured and die for free.
Libertarians are greedy bastards. They love when they can make people die for their rule for free.
Soon you will see neoliberal Europe to starts using the nathsoc propaganda. They need soldiers. In the time of war they shift the narrative , thr propaganda that suits them best.

>>513967576
>Blood and soil
This is the stupidest justification the Russians are trying to push. Picrel.

>>513968982
>Even the neoliberal Russia and Ukraine started to use that propaganda. Because fools like you have to be lured and die for free.
So I am right, good, now fuckoff you retarded reality denying lolbert

>>513968694
Exactly,.because that was the time when the national state was born.
All wars before that were fought with mercenaries who fought for.money.

>>513968946
Roman empire was a republic so I suppose I missed that. Jews did not exist as a nation unless you count America before 1946.
But typically in Cucked, Monarchist Europe (After Germanic barbarians destroyed Roman Empire), the soldiers go to battle screaming "FUR DA KANG!", not "For blood and soil", "for nation", "for my people".
So most of all European wars were fought for the benefit of only a handful of individuals and the cucks who led and fought in the military didn't even think that was wrong until recently.
China is interesting because they had people like Confucious which can be seen as primitive nationalism.

>>513967576
>b-blood and soil!!
No nigger, they’re getting blown up so some Jewish oligarchs that have been in charge since the USSR can make another shekel. Don’t delude yourself that a goy getting his dick and legs blown off is some virtue.

>>513969175
>Roman empire was a republic
No.
At first Rome was a republic,.later it became an empire like USA and GAE now.

>>513969121
No, the bulk of all wars was fought before mercenaries and before currencies even
They fought on feudal principles. On feuds and vassals. King has vassals and vassals of the king have their own vassals. Vassal owns a feud which is like private property land that can be taken from you at any time if you refuse to fight for your lord directly above you. And so go the feudal lines from the kings, to the dukes, counts, barrons and finally knights. Might have forgotten some additional titles but those things changed as well.

>>513969086
It works and I don't understand what a map of feudal Europe is supposed to prove

>>513964805 (OP)
Biolabs, or was it fighting nazis?

>>513969357
niggers got lost and then cry about colonialism

>>513969180
Might be true,the difference is that if you are right at least they still pretend. Your government just knows you are slaves and doesn't even need to try anymore

>>513968957
>central planning which involves top mathematicians
A naive undertaking because you can't predict the future. Every variable, like the weather or a drunken worker, will nullify your entire calculations. This creates a domino effect, and everything collapses. Communism cannot exist without outside help.

>>513969175
>Jews did not exist as a nation unless you count America before 1946.
That is just blatantly wrong again lol

>>513968957
>Someone lies about their production data to get a nice bonus from the central party and 2 million people starve to death.
>it's covered up by the government to avoid looking bad, no party member is ever punished
>it is all blamed on capitalists spies and another million are killed in purges

Perfect system lol

>>513964805 (OP)
24 million russians died in the 3-day special military operation :(

>>513964805 (OP)
For Putin to not look bad on the international stage. Which is too late given that 4 years and 48967 press conferences later of begging Ukraine to surrender, its not looking good.

>>513969175
>Roman empire was a republic
The Roman empire was as the name implies an Empire
The Roman republic was a republic

Are you stupid or just rage baiting?

>>513964805 (OP)
To keep their country from being broken up into small balkanized states to facilitate the total rape of all resources by insane jews. It's a worthy cause.

>>513969104
You are wrong, because fools.who fall for that patriotic propaganda are few. The majority fight for.money to try to have a better life, to buy , to have what it is a human need, house, roof over your head.
The patriotic propaganda they use , does not.make.them neither nationalistic, nor socialistic.
It is a scam to fool the guilable people.

>>513969547
>>513969586
If that was true, we would see a large company go under every year but we don't. Because individual companies use the same techniques as the Soviet State to calculate output, only with less data (but with more advanced technology in today's time)

>>513968957
> Communist countries use central planning which involves top mathematicians using input data to predict how much will be consumed

In the real world, soviet union planned economy literally couldn’t even keep up with demand OR paying their workers LMAO.

>The government pretends to pay us, and we pretend to work

>>513969710
The Senate lasted until 603 AD

>>513969744
you just agreed that I was right twice and now you are coping

Fuck, can you explain why it all comes down to Jews? I just don't get it, really, what's the joke?

>>513969883
So? Does that make the the empire a republic or the republic an empire? Explain you idiotic reasoning and why any of that made up bullshit is supposed to be relevant

>>513969818
That is a western perspective. If this was true, then Russians wouldn't let their government openly praise and promote Soviet Union in education system, displaying their flags and having their foreign minister wear a shirt of CCCP and their another foreign minister wearing a Che shirt.
No. If that was true, they would go the route of Ukraine and ban those symbols.

>>513969356
>They fought on feudal principles.
Which were - money
All feudal Lords were paying the soldiers, knights and the money were the incentive to become a soldier.

>>513970021
It is not a monarchy which makes it ideologically completely distinct from post-Roman Europe.

>>513970067
Majority of feudal time money didn't even exist. Instead it was land and serfs that were indicators of how powerful someone was

>>513970067
We literally payed our armies in alcohol and food in some periods, you are dead wrong and probably American

>>513970047
> Russians wouldn't let their government

You’re assuming Russians have any kind of power over their government lmao. That’s a funny joke, Ivan. No, they’ll shut the fuck up and do as the FSB says if they know what’s good for them.

>>513969812
Just to clarify.It's a false assumption that under communism, you have the opportunity to take initiative and run your own business. In the Russian version of communism, there simply aren't any such options as owning your own business.

>>513964805 (OP)
drone rsrchfac

>>513970094
Wich is not relevant at all to the conversation?

>>513969812
But large companies go under all the time, they just usally get bought out by other companies and retain their old name if it has marketable value

>>513969930
It is a strategy of the capitalistic shills.

>>513970180
They had 3 revolutions and 2 collapses in the last 100 years. Meanwhile Americans didn't do shit since 1776
After YOU overthrow your government, then you can talk.

>>513970346
Kike

>>513970344
I don't remember a company with over 10M customers ever going down for real.

>>513970047
What does the second word mean?
Sigarii

>>513970373
Lmao the Bolsheviks? Who “overthrowing the upper class” made the Vanguard? And then after the Soviet Union collapsed thanks to the Soviet military coup, the people quietly accepted Putin’s take over because they had no stable country. Despite all thy r shit they went through, Russia is back at it again with soviet union 2.0. I can talk all I want, Russians ain’t gonna do shit about putin or the government.

>>513970180
Bitch one of your presidents was shot by the CIA and everyone knows it and now every American thinks that a pedophile blackmail cult runs their country in one way or another and you still don't do shit
Shut up

>>513970160
>Majority of feudal time money didn't even exist.
LOL
Idiota.
Feudalism is medieval ages.
Money exists since Shumer 10000 years ago.
LOL

>>513964805 (OP)
>nothing
>everything

>>513970583
>muh JFK!
>mad irrelevant cope

Lmaoooooooooooooo.

>>513970582
First the republicans overthrew the Tsar.
Then the bolsheviks overthrew the Republicans.
Then a different faction of the bolsheviks overthrew the bolsheviks in 1924 and 1953.
Then the classical liberals overthrew the Bolsheviks for good in 1991.
1991 was the last real overthrow since Putin infiltrated Yeltsin's government and installed himself as a successor using deception and psychology, rather than violence.

>>513970782
Will you do anything? No so stfu about other countries and take it up the ass by your government like a good goy

>>513964805 (OP)
Why are you wage slaving?

>>513970692
>While the first standard coin of the Holy Roman Empire was the Guldengroschen of 1524, its longest-lived coin was the Reichsthaler

>>513970858
> Putin infiltrated Yeltsin's government and installed himself as a successor using deception and psychology, rather than violence.

Lmao, you’re assuming that Putin had not had anyone killed? Wild. Even Yeltzin used the fucking military on congress ffs.

>>513970447
Nortel? Enron? General Motors? Lehman Brothers?

>>513970879
Stay mad about american politics, faggot. Rent free.

>>513964805 (OP)
Gilticus

>>513971008
Yes, but Putin never did massive purges of Yeltsinite oligarchs which is why there are still some miniscule amounts of wealthy jewish oligarchs in Russia despite Putin being against the jews himself.

>>513971070
You brought up overthrowing governments cuckboy. The summer of love, never forget <3

>>513971141
He purged the oligrachs who didn’t kowtow his line ffs. And against jews? LMAOOOOOOOOOO, sorry to bear the bad news, Putinbros

>>513971049
This was all back in 2008 financial crisis so it wasn't really the companies fault, except Enron which was a scam AFAIK

>>513971232
He is saying he will invade Israel soon and you say he is not against?

>>513964805 (OP)
For money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC7ca3sPJVo

>>513971290
Invade? LMAO, he didn’t even assist Iran against Israel??? What level of cope you taking???

>>513971000
Wrong. First found coins were those in Shumer, 10000 BC.
Before Egyptian , before ancient Greece.

>>513971346
Russians are treacherous bastards. They betray everybody and even themselves.
Before Iran ,.it was Syria and Bashar. Now it is gonna be Venezuela.

>>513971346
he said the same about Ukraine ...
>>513971463
I am talking about European feudal nations

>>513971952
> he said the same about Ukraine

Lmao, no, everyone who knew Russia knew he was gonna invade Ukraine long before he tried it. Iran/Israel standoff, Russia did jack and shit and pretended everything was all good lmao. There is no Israel invasion, I don’t know what drugs Putin shills take nowadays but the talking points are getting more hilarious by the day.

>>513972121
Ukraine has Russian majority -> got invaded
Israel has Russian majority -> ???

>>513972194
Ukraine is not Russian, retard. Its like calling the Irish British because they both speak the same english.

>>513972276
What is Ukraine then if not Russian? German?

>>513972346
>What is Irish if not British then?

LMAO

>>513964805 (OP)
For our entertainment of course.

>>513972276
Russia is a rotten state, a decaying old imperial power, its people enslaved and its soil exploited

>>513964805 (OP)
So that their family members can buy a LADA.

>>513969547
>pic
most of that shit was sent in 1944-1945, unfortunately

>>513972992
Not if military comes back with “Sorry, he deserted” and not give any payouts whatsoever.

>>513964805 (OP)
Their glorious hiv empire. It's very dear to them

>>513973156
Nah, that's what Ukrainians do. I know someone who works in the draft office and they ain't doing that shit. They work slow (thanks to Russian Post offices being underpaid and overloaded), but they work and actually pay what must be paid.

>>513964805 (OP)
if you really ask the russians/asian/muslim/siberian kids who are there, 95% will say for the generous money, thats life changing money back in the boondocks of russian neglected areas, of which there are numerous.

none will say the russian mainstream propaganda reasons: for the american bioweapon labs, or for the glory of the global south, or for donetsk, or for the glory of the 100 years ago soviet union, or because of nato, or for fighting against the transgenders, or for orthodox religion, or whatever they say the reason of the week is in the russian tv.


in the big picture, it would be also okay to emphasize to president trump that putin has failed in all his strategic goals.

- he unified europe.
- he expanded nato to include finland and sweden. he practically brought us into nato.
- he effectively raised nato's defense spending from 2% to 5%.
- if I look at territorial conquests, he has been trying to conquer Donetsk for 12 years, of which he gained 50% before the war started, and on the battlefield he has advanced 25% over the last 12 years.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/how-much-territory-does-russia-control-ukraine-2025-08-14/ 75% of the Donetsk region. August 15, 2025

practically none of the goals that Putin set for himself in this special operation have been achieved.

this is perhaps the greatest strategic geopolitical failure in recent history.

as a bonus, 700k russians have died and wounded, as have ukrainians, and as russians count ukraine and ukrainians as truly russians, that means 1.4million russians have died and wounded by the order of putin in ultimately meaningless civil war.