Thread 513982336

>>513982336 (OP)
holy shit, this nigger is fucking obsessed with Germany

>>513982336 (OP)
>This guy

>>513982463
he's one of us

>>513982463
NIGGER WE GUARD YOUR COUNTRY AND YOU STILL LET JEWS FILL IT WITH AFRICANS

>>513982463
Oh? Tell us how they talk in germany then.
>In America they do this and it's awful/bad/ridiculous, here in Germany we do it like this!
>train gets cancelled
>stranded in some bumfuck village
>thank god I'm not in America! Their trucks are too big!

>>513982463
It's because you kraut faggots are running Europe into the ground (again)

>>513982336 (OP)
He s right. Good for the US and bad for us but he s the POTUS not the president of the world.

>>513982638
>>513982687
thanks for nothing, worthless niggers

>>513982578
warum ist das auf english geschrieben

>>513982463
Germany is a parasite

>>513982336 (OP)
Where does he get the "we are subsidizing the world" from? related to medicine anyway

>>513982336 (OP)
MATH DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT, RETARD JEW!

>>513982463
What else would you expect from literally orange cheeto hitler.

>>513982336 (OP)
Does he… does he know it’s his own country’s retarded insurance companies doing that? How could another country increase your own prices

Tariffs are passed to the consumer.

>>513984454
all these cringey boomer political cartoonist need to be put in retirement homes
I don't know how they even got so out of touch with reality, it needs to be studied

>>513982929
You deserved it

>>513982365
Who and done what? He's president now and odds are they don't give a fuck. Trump is an egotistical retard easy to wrap around people's finger because a lot of the time all you have to do is act like a yes men.

>>513982336 (OP)
wow

how about HOUSING PRICES AND BARRIER OF ENTRY. HOW ABOUT FINANCIAL INCENTIVES AND ASSISTANCE FOR WHITE WORKING CLASS AS THEY DO TO THE VARIOUS SHITSKINS THEYVE IMPORTED SINCE HART CELLAR ACT. HOW ABOUT A CIVILIAN CONSERVATION CORPS TO REBUILD OUR CRUMBLING, DECREPIT FUCKING INFRASTRUCTURE

BUT

MUH

FUCKING

DRUG PRICES!

HOLY FUCKING SHIT.

>>513983151
It was a present for Trump given to him by chancellor Merz. He had it translated.

Just two more weeks

>>513982582
NIGGER THIS COUNTRY IS OWNED BY FUCKING KIKES. THE SAME FUCKING KIKES IMPORTING EVERY SHITSKIN OF EVERY RACE INTO EVERY FUCKING COUNTRY IN THE WEST YOU RETARDED FUCKING FAGGOT

KILL

YOUR

SELF

>>513984864
you lost
you're also brown
and a tranny

>>513982687
Kill yourself you subhuman kike faggot.

>>513984620
It was effective back then because memeing was just being rediscovered. Today, it’s cringe

>>513982336 (OP)
Like... pharma drugs or drug drugs?

>>513985395
Is there a difference?

So many MIGA kike shills in this thread. You all deserve a fucking bullet.

>>513982336 (OP)
European drug prices are lower because their government healthcare plans act as the largest bulk buyer and therefore can set the price. It has nothing to do with the USA subsidizing them.

>>513984864
You grind your teeth in your sleep.

>>513985254
You forgot to awoooo!

>>513982336 (OP)
>decrease by 1400%

huh?!?!

>>513982336 (OP)
thats cool what about us that dont make every single bad decision possible and actually dont need any drugs at all to live?
even more relevant, is the fact i still havent forgotten about jew epsteins child rapist list.

>>513982617
>Announces a deal
>deal isn't done

>>513982336 (OP)
>germany
Lmao. Ireland and we export more pharme to you niggers than germany do.

>>513982336 (OP)
The united states unironically pays for the whole world's drugs. That is why our drug prices are so high
>"these nigger countries can't afford to pay $5 per pill."
>"let's just add $4.80 to the cost for Americans, and charge africa 20 cents
Same fucking thing for Europe, Asia, and south America. Every region that can't afford to pay just gets the price added to American drugs so the poorer countries get it almost free.

>>513985496
>European drug prices are lower because their government healthcare plans act as the largest bulk buyer and therefore can set the price. It has nothing to do with the USA subsidizing them.
Anyone with an iq above room temperature knows that. But that won't get you anywhere with the maga jeets.

>>513982336 (OP)
Tariffs are a tax on American companies?

>>513984454
1. Tarif Imposed
2. Manufacturing is increased in the use to avoid the tarrif. During this period of transition, the consumer suffers.
3. Manufacture ability is created. Once it's there the price goes back to the way it was, or even less because the thing no longer has to be transported from across the world.

I know you will say >lol trust the plan two more weaks
but some things just actually take a long time to happen. Like what do you want him to do if it's a slow process to build a factory he can't just wave a magic wand and make it happen over night.

>>513982336 (OP)
he's serving us up some neo-conservatism with a side of compassionate conservatism. we're rerunning the bush era.

>>513986177
It doesn't have much to do with tariffs this time. Your pharmaceutical imports and exports are fairly balanced, and international pharmaceutical companies mainly produce in your country. He simply wants to introduce a socialist rule and mentions Germany because he knows his base hates everything white and European.

>>513986326
No one will change a worker in bangladesh earning $1,000 a year for one in america earning $80,000 a year because of a 25% tariff. No matter how much 4D chess you come up with.

Good start but you need to eliminate medical insurance from existence. That's why everything has a ridiculous cost with no connection to reality.
Personally I would prohibit practicing medicine entirely after the holocough bullshit but I realize this is an unpopular view.

>>513982336 (OP)
>Country that subsidises drug development gets cheap drugs
>Country that only manufactures drugs to the highest investors gets expensive drugs

Yeah you do those tariffs Donald, that'll just make the drug prices higher kek.

>>513987191
health insurance companies actually serve to reduce costs because their goal is to keep as much of their members' contributions as possible. The only problem is that you allow them to cheat patients. If you forbade them from cheating patients, they would instead try to reduce costs by putting pressure on pharmaceutical companies and hospitals.

>>513986326
Oh yes please keep telling yourself that

Trust the plan

>>513986326
Drugs are incredibly cheap to ship compared to design cost.
Nearly all those European multinational companies do not give a shit because they have patents on half the stuff you're crying about

>>513983973
We are. The numbers he is quoting are real. Your countries price-fix pharmaceuticals and and the companies make up the loss by charging exorbitant prices in the US. Mind you, these are mostly European companies. They have been fucking Americans on pricing for at least 30 years. This is why we put Trump in the White House. It is time for a level playing field on trade. You fuck us? We fuck you back.

>>513982336 (OP)
I will take 1,400% cheaper weed, thanks Trump.

Oh he means (((drugs))) form a (((pharmacy))), fuck off orange kike.

>>513985496
Right because drug stores dont buy in bulk.
Fuck of retard. The VA used to get lower prices like that, 25 fucking years ago. Then they changed the law and said anybody can do that, like drug store chains.

>>513988022
>You fuck us? We fuck you back.
How do you think it works that you've been importing more than you export for many decades? And how exactly does it screw you up to get more than you give?

>>513982463
dont worry hans, your country will fade into obscurity soon enough.

>>513982582
You mean, you did this!

>>513985753
>>513982617
he hasn't made any deals it's all promises and it usually some bs of
>they will invest 200 billion in the USA!

>>513988192
In Germany, for example, "buy in bulk" means here 90% of all prescription drugs. Because they are all billed through the state health insurance fund, thus the state health insurance fund regularly negotiates with the association of pharmacists and sets prices. The same procedure applies to doctors and hospitals.

>>513982336 (OP)
can't wait till (((they))) tell him, who is responsible for these prices in the USA and why they are not going to be lowered no matter what he mutters

>>513984760
fucking kike

>>513988812
That's why he wants to make it a "them versus us" issue. Jewish american companies won't be affected. They will continue to be able to fully utilize their monopolies.

>>513988022
Thats wrong. Germany drug prices are high too. Yours are just higher, because free market.
And why does Trump turns into a commie? I thought you hate commies and free market?

>>513985331
>Memes are cringe
When did this happen?

>>513988022
>>513988192
americans are retarded niggers that keep talking to themselves in circles
just like they think noone buys american cars because of tariffs, which dotn even exist
they also hate Europe but then are fucking jealous of half the shit that we have, like in this thread

>>513982336 (OP)
translation

>the price of drugs are going to increase by 30,000%

>>513982336 (OP)
>decrease by 1,400%
it’s funny because if a black person would’ve said this, you chuds would be calling him a dumbfuck nonstop. But Trump does and you all accept that it makes total sense

>>513985496
>government healthcare plans act as the largest bulk buyer and therefore can set the price.
The byer sets the price? What? So the US buyers just chooses to buy and insanely high prices? Why would they do that?

>>513989125
The jews have instilled in them a deep hatred of everything white. Even their white supremists want to see Europe burn. Absolutely insane.

>>513989316
they've been brainwashed by chudaganda so hard, they think freedom is slavery

>>513987554
>health insurance companies actually serve to reduce costs
They serve to make money for them self.

>>513982336 (OP)
They're gonna start paying me?

>>513989322
The buyer is just as important in a transaction as the seller. And if you represent the majority of buyers in your country, like the state health insurance companies in Germany for example, you can exert enormous pressure on the sellers. Picrel related.

>>513989285
I dont think this will really happen. What might happen is that the important drugs avaibility will decrease.
>you need this diabetic drug? Sorry sir, we might get a new charge in a month.
What you wrote only happens when people pay extra to get it first or böack market prices.

>>513989022
German nigger thinks the United States is a free market. Doesn't know that the US government controls it's market end to end and owns corporations and manages its own monopolies.

Eurotrash are beyond retarded, they are subhuman

>>513989322
Free market. Some drugs are seen as essential. So people will pay high prices to not die or stop the pain.

>>513988120
>cheaper weed
Nigger, weed is $20/oz where i live

>>513989486
Just like I said. Which leads them to cut costs.

>>513989324
yeah, I noticed that
Trumps success is largely explainable by hating Europe while sucking Israels dick
americans love that

>>513982365
He really does look like a stereotype.

>>513989682
I think the jokes on you. The US is controlled by the elite who owns the companies. And when they dont have a free market why did they elect Trump? He said he fights the commies that are the liberals and democrats?

>>513989773
I make about $400 a year, I literally cannot afford even $20.

>>513989891
The average US citizinnis very envious. Thats why they want others to suffer who live a better life than them or might in the future.
Russia? Africa? Middle East? South America? Dont care because their life is more miserable than their own. Europe? Japan? Australia? China? They might have better life? Lets shit on them!

>>513989594
True. But if you are the buyer wouldn't you exert pressere to buy cheaper?

>>513989693
But if its a free market why do Americanas buy the medicines for 10 times the price that other countries buys medicine?

>>513989776
But not for the "consumer" of the services.

>>513984295
Prices aren't the same as copays.

>>513990899
>True. But if you are the buyer wouldn't you exert pressere to buy cheaper?
Yes. The government says "sell us your drug at X price or we'll buy drug Y instead." and because the government is literally 90+% of the market, the drug companies do as they're told.

>But if its a free market why do Americanas buy the medicines for 10 times the price that other countries buys medicine?
Americans don't have anywhere near as much leverage.

>>513982336 (OP)
based daddy trump will literally be paying me hundreds of dollars a month to take my medications. this is MAGA country. libtards are seething

>>513988022
>the companies make up the loss by charging exorbitant prices in the US
This logic is so fucking retarded.

In what universe do you think companies would voluntarily choose to charge lower prices and make less profit? US companies are going to sell you drugs for the highest price that they possibly can regardless of any other factors. If Europe pays more for its drugs, you will not pay less. I guarantee it.

>>513982687
i heard they're antisemitic too oy vey

>>513993496
>Americans don't have anywhere near as much leverage.
Why? Its a HUGE market, like you say, if they refuse to buy from one supplier then that supplier looses billions of dollars(?), probably their biggest market.

>>513993930
Because they do not act collectively, because that's socialism or something apparently. "They" cannot refuse to buy from one supplier because "they" don't exist. If some random American goes up to a drug company and says "lower your prices or else" the company will just laugh because who fucking cares, it's one guy.

>>513985108
hm. i have old family immigration papers from Bavaria also. but i don't know if its from the Palatine in the west, the think that's the Wittelsbach ancestral lands if I'm not mistaken. that's a pretty awesome and picturesque area Orange Man came from.

Mine just says "Bavaria"

>>513994045
But you just used the government as an example ans said that its 90%+ of the market

>>513994373
Yeah, but in the US the government doesn't buy drugs because they don't have public healthcare.

In countries with public healthcare the government buys all the drugs so it has enormous leverage because it's essentially the entire market.

In America, everyone has to buy their drugs separately and individually from the drug companies so they have no leverage.

It's not quite this simple but that's essentially the big difference.

>>513994661
false. the government does this and pre negotiates rates already thru programs like Medicare, which are terrible. where are you getting your information from?

>>513982578
Here's the same document, signed by President Donald J. Trump

>>513994887
i got some lidocane patches once, they were Japanese made. The pharmacy said that'll be $350 please

i literally looked online and give them an RX bin code, they punched it in the computer. and they said, "OK that'll be $50 now."

this is a true fucking story. this is how these pricing structures work when they are not contracted, remember that martin skarelli guy? yeah.

>>513994887
That's why I said it's not quite as simple as what I'm portraying. But what I've said is not wrong. The US government could be much more aggressive in setting drug prices and it isn't due to lack of political will and regulatory capture. If your government did the same thing as my government you'd get the same results and you don't so it isn't.

>>513989324
Ironic coming from a euromutt

>>513995240
that's exactly the it, if you saw the gouging built into the prices, its sickening. its basically one faint scheme seeing how much they can bilk a person or organization from

he should've threatened these companies to "knock it the fuck off right now, or else."

>>513994661
Okay but this shit don't make sense. Why do america buy the same drugs as other countries but for way way more? I don't get it.

>>513986326
This strategy would work if he kept it consistent

>>513982336 (OP)
>Trump says he's going to do something
>doesn't do shit
all mouth, no balls

>>513995473
>Why do america buy the same drugs as other countries but for way way more?
America is not a functioning democracy, and I mean that literally. Academic research has shown that domestic political opinion in America has at best only a tiny effect on what legislation gets passed. American government is less responsive to the wants and needs of the American people than literal dictatorships - again, that's not an ideological statement, that's the result of academic analysis of what legislation gets passed vs what people actually want.

America has elections, debates, congress, free media, whatever, but it is not a democracy. The American constitution is a fundamentally failed document. I can go more into the reasons why if you're really interested but the explanation for why modern America is the way that it is is that it is literally not democratic.

>>513982336 (OP)
Cause nobody is going to the doctor anymore. DEIoctor Jamal aint gon git dem gibs

>>513995473
do you see this? its NOT an insurance card. it's just a card my union sent me to make the pharmacy drop their prices like 80%, if i ever wanted to use it. most dont.

im not kidding. everything about this reeks of fucking fraud. there's nobody stopping them.

>>513982336 (OP)
>boom
the most expensive and prevalent drugs are produced in muttland though.

>>513995667
yes it's not a democracy you goddamn paki invader, its a representative republic.

>>513995921
Sure.

And how's that working out for you?

>>513996032
a lot better before you brown people showed up and shat our country up like it was your street back home

>>513982929
You're welcome!

>>513996107
Imagine if your government was an actual democracy and you could actually make it do something about that, then.

When my country had a problem with illegal immigrants the government just fixed it, because the public pressure to do so was overwhelming and the government in a democracy is actually responsive to public pressure.

Meanwhile in America, Democrats refuse to fix the problem because of ideological commitments and Republicans have historically refused to fix it for generations because it's a useful wedge against Democrats and it serves the agribusiness interests that fund their party. And so despite overwhelming public demand to fix illegal immigration in America, for generations nothing was done, because your government doesn't give a shit what the public wants. What YOU want.

Anyway, I digress.

>>513995667
Okay but i was wondering more about this specific case of why medicine is more expensive in US then other countries

>>513996181
kek
at least thats funny

>>513982929
Ukrainians did that, fuckhead. Are you not aware of this?

>>513996335
that was literally the framework of our nation, ABSOLUTELY NOT to be a democracy because of the dangers associated with it.

how can you get so many things wrong, every single post. jesus.

>>513995804
Exactly. They set up bullshit companies and apply for subsidies from the state. In this case that company gets founded by the US government. So people that pay that cost are the american tax payers. If they are not paying that cost in tax, they are paying for it trough inflation because the government printed those money to support that bullshit company that pays for your meds.

>>513996484
Well then it's simple. The US government acts in the interests of drug producers, not drug consumers. Any legislation that would threaten the extortionate prices that drug manufacturers charge will never get passed.

The US government does this because congresspeople, the ones who pass the legislation are bribed to use their power to support pro-manufacturer legislation and oppose pro-consumer legislation, and to pressure the executive government (regulatory agencies) not to take effective action. There are many ways that this can happen.

For example, imagine a hypothetical government agency that investigates predatory drug pricing practices and reports on them. It would be unpopular to close that agency outright, so you don't do that. Instead you just cut funding to it until it's so underfunded it can no longer do its job. This is why Republicans in America always talk about cutting "waste, fraud, and abuse" - it's largely a cover for starving the government to death so that it cannot do its job.

>>513996599
I didn't get it wrong. That's the framework you chose and it failed. Your country is a shithole. Every modern democracy after America has chosen a Westminster system, not a Washingtonian system, because the failures of Washingtonian government are so obvious.

Case in point: healthcare.

>>513996761
Thank you for explaining this. That makes a lot of sense. But why in the fuck is it like this? The Americanas gotta do something about that.

>>513996837
is that why you ran away from your brown shithole to Australia? to chug the ball of us white people for a better life? make cure you cup our sack while you work the shaft, shitskin

nobody wants you in our lands you filthy paki. its easy to tell its you every single time, with your non stop obsessing over america, and your low intelligence bullshit talking out of your ass

go the fuck home

>>513982336 (OP)
>drugs cost too much
>therefore I'l tariff the shit out of them
lool

>>513996740
Medicare fraud is such a problem, the whole system needs an overhaul, and major audit. you saw how badly the leftists screamed when they were being audited? its flagrantly obvious why, who would else tell you to stop when you were discovering fraud? the fraudsters.

there apparently were non citizen foreigners using our system as well.

>>513997059
>why in the fuck is it like this?
It's simply an inevitable consequence of the reality of class conflict and the unique weaknesses of the American system of government. There's no one reason, but all the reasons are also all essentially the same thing.

For example, the US senate gives disproportionate representation to rural interests because every state gets 2 seats, so California (60,000,000 people) has the same number of votes as Wyoming (500,000 people). This is a structural feature that already pushes US legislation in a non-democratic direction.

Then there are non-structural factors, like the filibuster. In the US senate you can use 'the filibuster' to block legislation unless it has 2/3rds support. Because no party ever wins 2/3rds of the senate, what this means is that the people who lose the election can block the winners from passing any laws at all. So even if the vast majority of Americans want public healthcare, and they win 60% of the seats in parliament, they still cannot pass a law enabling it, which is obviously anti-democratic.

Additionally, the US bill of rights puts legislative power in the hands of unelected judges. If you pass a law for universal healthcare I can appeal that law to the Supreme Court and they can rule that it violates my right to privacy or whatever and strike it down. This is another anti-democratic feature.

Individually, you can make arguments for why all of these things are good and necessary and so on. But taken collectively they result in a system that is completely unresponsive to what voters want. In America you can win the election, control Congress, control the Senate, control the Presidency, and still be unable to pass a single law.

And that's the main reason in my opinion why voters in America don't get what they want.

>>513997091
You get the government you deserve.

>>513982336 (OP)

The clown show getting more weird day by day

>>513995921
Modern Republicanism is a form of democracy, and this tired argument is meaningless anyway.

>>513993930
america grants medical monopolies (patents) to inventors for 25 years. these can often be extended for decades beyond the limit
the rationale of patents is that it incentivizes innovation and technological growth; many would argue the exact opposite but in america support for patents is bipartisan

this means it is illegal for an inventor to be supplanted, because it constitutes a form of intellectual property violation
i invented a new type of antibiotic? for the next 25 years (realistically over 50) i will be enjoying a monopoly on it and set the prices domestically. and because other countries have countermeasures against such non-sense, i will offer fair prices to them

muricans of course get the cause-effect relationship completely wrong and think they pay drugs expensively because they are doing the world a charity

>>513982929
You wanted ukraine to fuck over russia and they did. You got exactly what you were clamoring for now blame america. This is why europeans should never be taken seriously.

>>513997721
go home dirty cowshit eater

>>513986326
Manufacturing can't be done in the US because kikes siphon off wages for housing. Tariffs can't work without removing the actual problem. Imports would need to be banned entirely starting with the human ones.

>>513982336 (OP)
ok i'm waiting

>>513982617
Trump doing his best South Korean impersonation in that pic.

>>513986326
>it takes a long time to happen
Seems like a sound and effective strategy in our volatile constantly changing system. He's retarded for thinking he can brute force this kind of thing like an ape.

>>513984454
Yeah, for a short period
Did you think fixing the problems which have perennially would occur without some growing pains? You faggots would have someone with cancer forgo chemo because it will cause them pain. We're in this position because of your weakness and acceptance of mediocrity and greed, and now that we're actually working to fix it, you whine and whinge as though what we were heading towards wasn't worse.
I accept short term pain for long term gain and may your panties be ever in a twist about it faggot

>>513982365
Wise

>>513987554
>health insurance companies actually serve to reduce costs because their goal is to keep as much of their members' contributions as possible
No. They gather doctors into their network and take huge bribes from pharmaceutical com0anies passing crumbs along to doctors for hitting quotas. Its set up like car salesman. Want a Cadillac, or a set of steak knives?

The feral mutt attacks again.

>>513987554
Without insurance forcing the costs onto everyone prices would have to be limited to what a single person would actually be willing and capable of paying.

>>513989316
>>513985634
Lel it's alarming how few posts are like this

>>513985078
Cancer takes time to cure you deluded twink. Would you have us throw away what progress we've got so far and all we can get just because you didn't get what you wanted instantly? How about you shove that black pill up your ass and leave the rest of us alone to do the actual work whine you go cry in a corner.

>>513982929
you did that

>>513982336 (OP)
>Tariffs will be placed on countries who do not abide
90% of the APIs in all of our drugs come from China and are produced for cheap and then WILDLY marked up by American drug companies after they get a hold of them and add whatever inactive ingredients that may aid in absorption of the drug or whatever. Tariffs actually could help in this situation but the way it's currently worded doesn't make much sense. For one, tariffs are paid by the importer, not the exporter, so it's not as if China is going to be paying extra to export to us, that said applying tariffs to companies that price gouge may help, but then again the mark ups are so insanely steep that realistically any tariff they have to pay would have a negligible effect on their profit margins.

>>513982463
Well yeah, you guys weren't very nice to his masters during WWII.

>>513998839
>takes time
Lmao shut the fuck up you faggot. Your kike in chief is headed towards a total jewish dictatorship you deluded kike loving faggot. Go fuck yourself. His entire family ass been sucking off kikes since they got to the U.S. and its very well documented. It is a undeniable fact of reality and little fucks like you are the very thing the cancer feeds off to remain in existence.

You are the deluded one. Kill yourself.

>>513982336 (OP)
see how long that "free healthcare" last when they have to start paying more for meds

>>513999618
You're a bought and paid for meat bot.

>>514001643
Nope. I am a Nationalsozialist and we run this board kike lover. Fuck off back to jewsocial.

>>514001739
The only thing you run is a train of nigger dick up your ass.

>>514001890
Kek. Keep chewing those foreskins shlomo.

>>513999678
Everyone is being forced to live longer and pay more, the art of jewish medicine.
God knows what is in store for children that survived vaxsneeds and in the womb.
And their foreskins are still removed.

>>514002368
Mr. Bagelstein owns your soul, and his greatest trick was making you blind to your strings.

>>514003264
real strong coming from a guy that has a 4 hour deep dive about how much jewish dick trump sucks.

https://odysee.com/@Blackpilled:b/trumpandjews:c

>>513982336 (OP)
Amazing.

>>513982336 (OP)
>>513982365
You dummies would clap and laugh if he waved keys in your face.

>pharma jew, insurance jew, hospital jew, everyone jews americans because our government wants everyone to die before they can retire
>something something foreign nations are to blame
Kill all europoors. Now.

>>514003988
>>513999678
Amerigroids hate whites